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[dooglus]

Again the investor option has been REMOVED. No one is being forced or coerce and indeed we have bowed to public pressure in this regard

I think you misunderstood the public pressure:

* Nobody was asking you to remove the investor option.

* Everyone was asking you to prove that you aren't insolvent.

It is worrying that you have hidden an important part of your site in an attempt to make the public pressure go away rather than simply showing that you still have control of the coins you were trusted to look after.

Offering 20 BTC payouts with a 1% edge from a 500 BTC bankroll that you actually have is bad enough.

Offering 20 BTC payouts with a 1% edge from a 500 BTC bankroll that you already spent is even worse.

[ajareselde]

Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol.

Most of the people defending them are either clearly shill accounts or are wearing DaDice signatures. I don't want to make any claims that I cannot backup, however I know that GAW had a signature campaign in which they had many shill accounts pretend to participate in their signature campaign to push their agenda.

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independent financial audit ? Never. But still you are supporting them in their adv. campaign.

[dooglus]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

[ajareselde]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

[Quickseller]

Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol.

Most of the people defending them are either clearly shill accounts or are wearing DaDice signatures. I don't want to make any claims that I cannot backup, however I know that GAW had a signature campaign in which they had many shill accounts pretend to participate in their signature campaign to push their agenda.

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independent financial audit ? Never. But still you are supporting them in their adv. campaign.

I think your statement only backs up what I was implying. I would agree with what Dooglus said above.  I am also not sticking up for bit-x against any claims about them, I have actually been quite critical of them in the past.

I am just pointing out that the people sticking up for DaDice are wearing their signature. Is this just by chance? IDK, maybe, it is too soon to say now. I do know that when dicebitco.in was closing, they didn't have people sticking up for them and they had a signature campaign.

[Quickseller]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

DaDice is mostly paying out dust amounts to their customers. Mostly less then .01 per withdrawal (more then 99% of withdrawals by my casual observation). I would hardly call that taking business from their competition.

[ajareselde]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

DaDice is mostly paying out dust amounts to their customers. Mostly less then .01 per withdrawal (more then 99% of withdrawals by my casual observation). I would hardly call that taking business from their competition.

you are saying that just-dice pays much more than that ? I don't think so.

[Quickseller]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

DaDice is mostly paying out dust amounts to their customers. Mostly less then .01 per withdrawal (more then 99% of withdrawals by my casual observation). I would hardly call that taking business from their competition.

you are saying that just-dice pays much more than that ? I don't think so.

just-dice routinely pays 1+ BTC withdrawals. It wasn't long ago that someone withdrew roughly 100 BTC from their site.

DaDice is not paying out large amounts because large amounts are not being played at their site.

[tspacepilot]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

DaDice is mostly paying out dust amounts to their customers. Mostly less then .01 per withdrawal (more then 99% of withdrawals by my casual observation). I would hardly call that taking business from their competition.

Quickseller has a well-known agenda against dadice, as you can see by looking back through his post history and that of his alt ACCTSeller.  You have to take his arguments here with a grain of salt.

[Quickseller]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

DaDice is mostly paying out dust amounts to their customers. Mostly less then .01 per withdrawal (more then 99% of withdrawals by my casual observation). I would hardly call that taking business from their competition.

Quickseller has a well-known agenda against dadice, as you can see by looking back through his post history and that of his alt ACCTSeller.  You have to take his arguments here with a grain of salt.

I have no agenda. What would you think my motivations would be against DaDice would be? They paid me several weeks to wear their signature and almost always gave me the highest bonus amount. I made over 1 BTC wearing their signature, maybe two. If anything I think outsiders would claim that I would have a sympathetic bias towards DaDice.

Edit: another reason why I should have a sympathetic bias towards DaDice is that their high paying signature campaign is going to add value to the accounts that it is often claimed that I am farming. And if they were to close then the accounts that is always being claimed that I am farming would decline in value dramatically.

[ClevaRookie]

I always thought that the BTC community was there to support newbies in the industry. Yet all I have encountered is a bunch of bullies who try to make other people run their businesses they want them to. If an investor says they do not want things made available to the public, what business is it of someone else to tell them otherwise?

I find it abhorrent that you guys yell scam at every opportunity you get. Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt for once? I realize there have been many scams in the past, but this does not give you the right to yell wolf at every opportunity.

Since they have closed down their investment side, I do not see why it is necessary to keep bashing people over the head with the same thing over and over again. Give them the opportunity to show you they are not a scam. Act like grown ups, and atop throwing your toys out of the cot because someone does not do business your way.

[dadice]

why keep harping on about it? investment side of dd has closed and the dice site is still growing daily. happy days

Its just some people love to criticize somepne

That why this forum is called Troll Central over at reddit

[ajareselde]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

What competition? They don't have any real gamblers. All their ~150M bets is dust of 1 to 100 satoshis from faucet. We are concerned because another scam will hurt whole community. Not because someone is afraid of competition. NLNilco or Quickseller don't have a casino, as well as several other members.

Look, another competing site comment.
Look guys, im not saying you dont have the right to ask for info, but you are making it in a way that makes them guilty no matter what. First it was their investment option, now when they closed it down, its something else.

But hey, ignore me, im wearing their sig. so i must be their shill account. right?

[dadice]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

What competition? They don't have any real gamblers. All their ~150M bets is dust of 1 to 100 satoshis from faucet. We are concerned because another scam will hurt whole community. Not because someone is afraid of competition. NLNilco or Quickseller don't have a casino, as well as several other members.

Well yesterday we had one player losing 15 btc, 9 btc of those in one bet.

On Sunday we paid out to 1 player 18+ btc and to another one 10 btc. Must I post the tx id's here to prove?

Great to know that you call that dust. You should maybe in-between follow our HR section -- growing daily as well.

[Twipple]

I always thought that the BTC community was there to support newbies in the industry. Yet all I have encountered is a bunch of bullies who try to make other people run their businesses they want them to. If an investor says they do not want things made available to the public, what business is it of someone else to tell them otherwise?

I find it abhorrent that you guys yell scam at every opportunity you get. Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt for once? I realize there have been many scams in the past, but this does not give you the right to yell wolf at every opportunity.

Since they have closed down their investment side, I do not see why it is necessary to keep bashing people over the head with the same thing over and over again. Give them the opportunity to show you they are not a scam. Act like grown ups, and atop throwing your toys out of the cot because someone does not do business your way.

Support newbies ? Yes. thats what happened with Dadice till now.
But now that they are handling a much bigger invested amount, its time to show if they are not faking it, and are at least solvent. No one shouted scam till yesterday .

[dogedice.me]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

What competition? They don't have any real gamblers. All their ~150M bets is dust of 1 to 100 satoshis from faucet. We are concerned because another scam will hurt whole community. Not because someone is afraid of competition. NLNilco or Quickseller don't have a casino, as well as several other members.

Well yesterday we had one player losing 15 btc, 9 btc of those in one bet.

On Sunday we paid out to 1 player 18+ btc and to another one 10 btc. Must I post the tx id's here to prove?

Great to know that you call that dust. You should maybe in-between follow our HR section -- growing daily as well.

Funny how you are willing to post trx ids of those members without even asking them, but deny to publish cold wallet or other statistics that each and every site publish to be transparent.

[tspacepilot]

I always thought that the BTC community was there to support newbies in the industry. Yet all I have encountered is a bunch of bullies who try to make other people run their businesses they want them to. If an investor says they do not want things made available to the public, what business is it of someone else to tell them otherwise?

I find it abhorrent that you guys yell scam at every opportunity you get. Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt for once? I realize there have been many scams in the past, but this does not give you the right to yell wolf at every opportunity.

Since they have closed down their investment side, I do not see why it is necessary to keep bashing people over the head with the same thing over and over again. Give them the opportunity to show you they are not a scam. Act like grown ups, and atop throwing your toys out of the cot because someone does not do business your way.

Support newbies ? Yes. thats what happened with Dadice till now.
But now that they are handling a much bigger invested amount, its time to show if they are not faking it, and are at least solvent. No one shouted scam till yesterday .

Which is part of what makes me ask about the motivations behind the attack.  I really wonder if it's just a bluster war gone nasty.  I know that NLNico didn't like being denied when he felt like he offered a good favor to dadice.   I know dadice didn't like being told what to do or to show his bankroll to Stunna.  So now here we are, with two camps beating their drums.

From what I can tell, those who are skeptical have had their say and have left their feedback.  Dadice doesn't want to kowtow to them so he's going to do his own thing (which, as we all agree, has been going just fine).  Time will tell who was right and what the situation really is here.  Now, everyone who puts money on dadice is an adult and can judge things for themself, I think.

[fox19891989]

Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?

Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today?

But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.

I was making a point that just because you have someones adv. in signature, doesnt mean you are their shill account. And you can not judge someone just because they dont want to do what you ask them to.
Its funny that most of people attacking dadice are competitor sites that are loosing customers to rival. Just an observation

What competition? They don't have any real gamblers. All their ~150M bets is dust of 1 to 100 satoshis from faucet. We are concerned because another scam will hurt whole community. Not because someone is afraid of competition. NLNilco or Quickseller don't have a casino, as well as several other members.

Well yesterday we had one player losing 15 btc, 9 btc of those in one bet.

On Sunday we paid out to 1 player 18+ btc and to another one 10 btc. Must I post the tx id's here to prove?

Great to know that you call that dust. You should maybe in-between follow our HR section -- growing daily as well.

Actually you don't need to post them, those big winners can post here to support you, if you post txid, they will say it's not the payment of dadice

IMO if you are scam, you would let those 2 big winners lost everything. I don't think dadice will be a scam in the future, and guys, you can request proof of solvency for other casinos, here is the lists: satoshibet, nitrogen, directbet, cloudbet, bitcasino, blablabla, see are they willing to show your the wallet or proofs, I think the answer would be NO.

[Twipple]

Which is part of what makes me ask about the motivations behind the attack.  I really wonder if it's just a bluster war gone nasty.  I know that NLNico didn't like being denied when he felt like he offered a good favor to dadice.   I know dadice didn't like being told what to do or to show his bankroll to Stunna.  So now here we are, with two camps beating their drums.

From what I can tell, those who are skeptical have had their say and have left their feedback.  Dadice doesn't want to kowtow to them so he's going to do his own thing (which, as we all agree, has been going just fine).  Time will tell who was right and what the situation really is here.  Now, everyone who puts money on dadice is an adult and can judge things for themself, I think.

I don't think there was any motivation, apart from the part that he probably saw they didn't have proof of funds only yesterday, and asked the question.
As for Stunna reviewing the proof of funds, its only an option for them. They are more than welcome to show it to some trusted member of the community. The fact that they are denying from showing any proof of funds is another blow to their customer base and future. But thats something they are willing to accept for not showing the funds, which is fishy here. But yeah all adults should make smart decisions. And the smartest one is to not invest your money on any site

[Twipple]

I don't think dadice will be a scam in the future, and guys, you can request proof of solvency for other casinos, here is the lists: satoshibet, nitrogen, directbet, cloudbet, bitcasino, blablabla, see are they willing to show your the wallet or proofs, I think the answer would be NO.

They don't show that proof because they are not investment sites. All those sites just hold player deposits, which usually is a much smaller amount.