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June 07, 2015, 12:56:57 PM
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That defeats the point of escrow if you fill it up the day or the day before payouts are made.

Sorry Marco, it is almost the same scenario as your campaign whereas most of your campaigner complaint that they are being paid late due to there isnt enough funds in the escrow wallet. Dadice filled up the escrow wallet each week where they spend ~3BTC , that should be enough considering that is the rough average payment for their campaign each week and now the wallet contain 3.4 BTC

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June 07, 2015, 01:10:13 PM
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That defeats the point of escrow if you fill it up the day or the day before payouts are made.

Sorry Marco, it is almost the same scenario as your campaign whereas most of your campaigner complaint that they are being paid late due to there isnt enough funds in the escrow wallet. Dadice filled up the escrow wallet each week where they spend ~3BTC , that should be enough considering that is the rough average payment for their campaign each week and now the wallet contain 3.4 BTC

Well we all know Marco hidden agenda, as he tried to hijack our campaign in the past. I think we should go without escrow in the future and see if we succeed Cheesy

EDIT: After all, his campaign is run without escrow at all, why we had escrow from day one.

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June 07, 2015, 01:12:41 PM
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That defeats the point of escrow if you fill it up the day or the day before payouts are made.

Sorry Marco, it is almost the same scenario as your campaign whereas most of your campaigner complaint that they are being paid late due to there isnt enough funds in the escrow wallet. Dadice filled up the escrow wallet each week where they spend ~3BTC , that should be enough considering that is the rough average payment for their campaign each week and now the wallet contain 3.4 BTC

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).
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June 07, 2015, 01:18:55 PM
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That defeats the point of escrow if you fill it up the day or the day before payouts are made.

Sorry Marco, it is almost the same scenario as your campaign whereas most of your campaigner complaint that they are being paid late due to there isnt enough funds in the escrow wallet. Dadice filled up the escrow wallet each week where they spend ~3BTC , that should be enough considering that is the rough average payment for their campaign each week and now the wallet contain 3.4 BTC

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).

So you as a very trusted person here, as I can see....lol.....you are campaign manager and escrow in one person?Huh That is nice!!!

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June 07, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
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Well we all know Marco hidden agenda, as he tried to hijack our campaign in the past. I think we should go without escrow in the future and see if we succeed Cheesy

EDIT: After all his campaign is run without escrow at all, why we had escrow from day one.

It will still be better to use escrow as we dont want to follow Marco's path I believe , this what makes this campaign extraordinary Cheesy

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).

If I am not mistaken, you meant this address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. It has barely 5.7 BTC and the data for your campaign isnt actually public as we dont know exactly how many post are being paid throughout 1 week timeframe. Im assuming it is not enough because amph + MZ + Redsnow combined would be able to get 1+ BTC for their post and not to mention the other participants.

Atleast we the enrollments are ensured that we will be paid this week considering 3.4 BTC is in the wallet also that some of the regular poster moved to the fixed campaign which means it will be barely reaching 3 BTC this week

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June 07, 2015, 01:28:06 PM
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Well we all know Marco hidden agenda, as he tried to hijack our campaign in the past. I think we should go without escrow in the future and see if we succeed Cheesy

EDIT: After all his campaign is run without escrow at all, why we had escrow from day one.

It will still be better to use escrow as we dont want to follow Marco's path I believe , this what makes this campaign extraordinary Cheesy

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).

If I am not mistaken, you meant this address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. It has barely 5.7 BTC and the data for your campaign isnt actually public as we dont know exactly how many post are being paid throughout 1 week timeframe. Im assuming it is not enough because amph + MZ + Redsnow combined would be able to get 1+ BTC for their post and not to mention the other participants.

Atleast we the enrollments are ensured that we will be paid this week considering 3.4 BTC is in the wallet also that some of the regular poster moved to the fixed campaign which means it will be barely reaching 3 BTC this week

These 2 addresses (total of 8 BTC):
https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb
https://blockchain.info/address/16pe2twTgrjKC8mioPjX3f2UbCMGvWbVz4

If the campaign were to stop all of a sudden right now I'd have to pay out exactly 1.5941 BTC.
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June 07, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
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Well we all know Marco hidden agenda, as he tried to hijack our campaign in the past. I think we should go without escrow in the future and see if we succeed Cheesy

EDIT: After all his campaign is run without escrow at all, why we had escrow from day one.

It will still be better to use escrow as we dont want to follow Marco's path I believe , this what makes this campaign extraordinary Cheesy

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).

If I am not mistaken, you meant this address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. It has barely 5.7 BTC and the data for your campaign isnt actually public as we dont know exactly how many post are being paid throughout 1 week timeframe. Im assuming it is not enough because amph + MZ + Redsnow combined would be able to get 1+ BTC for their post and not to mention the other participants.

Atleast we the enrollments are ensured that we will be paid this week considering 3.4 BTC is in the wallet also that some of the regular poster moved to the fixed campaign which means it will be barely reaching 3 BTC this week

These 2 addresses (total of 8 BTC):
https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb
https://blockchain.info/address/16pe2twTgrjKC8mioPjX3f2UbCMGvWbVz4

If the campaign were to stop all of a sudden right now I'd have to pay out exactly 1.5941 BTC.

Well, if our campaign would stop all of a sudden we would probably pay less...

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June 07, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
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Well we all know Marco hidden agenda, as he tried to hijack our campaign in the past. I think we should go without escrow in the future and see if we succeed Cheesy

EDIT: After all his campaign is run without escrow at all, why we had escrow from day one.

It will still be better to use escrow as we dont want to follow Marco's path I believe , this what makes this campaign extraordinary Cheesy

No it's not. I control an escrow address and a hot wallet address which the bot pays out from. On the few occasions that participants are paid a few hours late, it is due to the hot wallet being out of funds and I (not Bit-X) refill it. There is always in enough in the escrow and hot wallet addresses combined to pay everyone out at any given point in time (the escrow address alone is enough actually).

If I am not mistaken, you meant this address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. It has barely 5.7 BTC and the data for your campaign isnt actually public as we dont know exactly how many post are being paid throughout 1 week timeframe. Im assuming it is not enough because amph + MZ + Redsnow combined would be able to get 1+ BTC for their post and not to mention the other participants.

Atleast we the enrollments are ensured that we will be paid this week considering 3.4 BTC is in the wallet also that some of the regular poster moved to the fixed campaign which means it will be barely reaching 3 BTC this week

These 2 addresses (total of 8 BTC):
https://blockchain.info/address/1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb
https://blockchain.info/address/16pe2twTgrjKC8mioPjX3f2UbCMGvWbVz4

If the campaign were to stop all of a sudden right now I'd have to pay out exactly 1.5941 BTC.

If you are taking this analogy then it will be the same case like dadice, it is still Sunday and if the campaign were to stop now then they will need less than 3.4 BTC in total + the enrollments in the fixed campaign as well, considering their payment is being pro-rata by 80 posts. So I think we are clear here Marco about this issue, thankyou for your consideration for reminding the wallet refill   Smiley

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June 07, 2015, 01:35:09 PM
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It will still be better to use escrow as we dont want to follow Marco's path I believe , this what makes this campaign extraordinary Cheesy

True mate, nobody wants to follow Marco's path.... Reminds me of one of my favorite computer games a long time back, "Pathways into Darkness"

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BTCAAAND JACKPOT!!!BTC



DaDice is pleased to announce the arrival of a brand new Jackpot!!

Head over to the site and see what you can win and read up all of the information in our new Jackpot FAQ!

We have gone live this morning with it and the Jackpot has already reached 1.00300250 BTC!!!



DaDice – Always the best and foremost in innovation for our esteemed players!

Keep Rollin’!!
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June 07, 2015, 05:44:46 PM
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Yeah JACKPOT..Glad to see this new feature on DD.
But unfortunately I cant make a deposit right now, aside from blockchain still in maintenance. I also get an error message when I click the bitcoin deposit button " Internal Processing Error." What is that?


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June 07, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
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Yeah JACKPOT..Glad to see this new feature on DD.
But unfortunately I cant make a deposit right now, aside from blockchain still in maintenance. I also get an error message when I click the bitcoin deposit button " Internal Processing Error." What is that?



Hmmmm not sure there myself mate. Send a message along to support so our dev can have a look for you
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DaDice is pleased to announce the arrival of a brand new Jackpot!!

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the bet ID and the Unix timestamp of the bet must both be prime numbers in order to claim the jackpot

It would be better if you could find a way of making the jackpot provably fair.

Under the current rules it would be trivial for you to delay a bet by a fraction of a second to ensure its betid is non-prime if the "wrong" player is about to win it.

Why have this prime number requirement at all?

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if a player has hit the jackpot with 1 satoshi, then that player will receive 20% of the jackpot. Whereas a bet of 100,000 satoshi or more will be eligible for the full amount.

Do you realise that this means the house edge is smaller for tiny bets than for big bets? It will encourage smart players to make smaller bets.

Finally, since the Unix time is prime about 1/22 of the time, and the betid is prime about 1/20 of the time, and you hit the required number 1/10000 of the time, betting 1 satoshi will hit the jackpot about 1 in 22*20*10000 bets. That's 1 in 4.4 million bets. But the jackpot is 20% of 1 BTC, or 20 million satoshis. That makes the jackpot very +EV:

>>> 100 * (1 - 20/4.4)
-354.5454545454545

The house edge when betting 1 satoshi is minus 354.5%...

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June 07, 2015, 07:19:18 PM
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DaDice is pleased to announce the arrival of a brand new Jackpot!!

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the bet ID and the Unix timestamp of the bet must both be prime numbers in order to claim the jackpot

It would be better if you could find a way of making the jackpot provably fair.

Under the current rules it would be trivial for you to delay a bet by a fraction of a second to ensure its betid is non-prime if the "wrong" player is about to win it.

Why have this prime number requirement at all?

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if a player has hit the jackpot with 1 satoshi, then that player will receive 20% of the jackpot. Whereas a bet of 100,000 satoshi or more will be eligible for the full amount.

Do you realise that this means the house edge is smaller for tiny bets than for big bets? It will encourage smart players to make smaller bets.

Finally, since the Unix time is prime about 1/22 of the time, and the betid is prime about 1/20 of the time, and you hit the required number 1/10000 of the time, betting 1 satoshi will hit the jackpot about 1 in 22*20*10000 bets. That's 1 in 4.4 million bets. But the jackpot is 20% of 1 BTC, or 20 million satoshis. That makes the jackpot very +EV:

>>> 100 * (1 - 20/4.4)
-354.5454545454545

The house edge when betting 1 satoshi is minus 354.5%...

Actually we have a verifier system on the stats site for that I believe. As well as full announcements (automated in chatr so anyone can check  their rolls at any time if they felt they had it mate Smiley
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June 07, 2015, 07:21:07 PM
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why do you need people to deposit for a jackpot if they can still win with 1 satoshi bets? wouldnt it be better to allow all bets?
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June 07, 2015, 07:28:42 PM
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DaDice is pleased to announce the arrival of a brand new Jackpot!!

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the bet ID and the Unix timestamp of the bet must both be prime numbers in order to claim the jackpot

It would be better if you could find a way of making the jackpot provably fair.

Under the current rules it would be trivial for you to delay a bet by a fraction of a second to ensure its betid is non-prime if the "wrong" player is about to win it.

Why have this prime number requirement at all?

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if a player has hit the jackpot with 1 satoshi, then that player will receive 20% of the jackpot. Whereas a bet of 100,000 satoshi or more will be eligible for the full amount.

Do you realise that this means the house edge is smaller for tiny bets than for big bets? It will encourage smart players to make smaller bets.

Finally, since the Unix time is prime about 1/22 of the time, and the betid is prime about 1/20 of the time, and you hit the required number 1/10000 of the time, betting 1 satoshi will hit the jackpot about 1 in 22*20*10000 bets. That's 1 in 4.4 million bets. But the jackpot is 20% of 1 BTC, or 20 million satoshis. That makes the jackpot very +EV:

>>> 100 * (1 - 20/4.4)
-354.5454545454545

The house edge when betting 1 satoshi is minus 354.5%...

Actually we have a verifier system on the stats site for that I believe. As well as full announcements (automated in chatr so anyone can check  their rolls at any time if they felt they had it mate Smiley

Well that addresses all my concerns then. Thanks. Smiley

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June 07, 2015, 07:29:15 PM
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For me is better up the minimum bet for win jackpot, like other similar dice site (i remember coinichiwa jackpot)
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June 07, 2015, 07:36:47 PM
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is there new deposit required to eligible get prize from this current jackpot amount, i had made my last deposit on 5th June so it ok or i have to make new deposit there after this announcement?
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DaDice is pleased to announce the arrival of a brand new Jackpot!!

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the bet ID and the Unix timestamp of the bet must both be prime numbers in order to claim the jackpot

It would be better if you could find a way of making the jackpot provably fair.

Under the current rules it would be trivial for you to delay a bet by a fraction of a second to ensure its betid is non-prime if the "wrong" player is about to win it.

Why have this prime number requirement at all?

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if a player has hit the jackpot with 1 satoshi, then that player will receive 20% of the jackpot. Whereas a bet of 100,000 satoshi or more will be eligible for the full amount.

Do you realise that this means the house edge is smaller for tiny bets than for big bets? It will encourage smart players to make smaller bets.

Finally, since the Unix time is prime about 1/22 of the time, and the betid is prime about 1/20 of the time, and you hit the required number 1/10000 of the time, betting 1 satoshi will hit the jackpot about 1 in 22*20*10000 bets. That's 1 in 4.4 million bets. But the jackpot is 20% of 1 BTC, or 20 million satoshis. That makes the jackpot very +EV:

>>> 100 * (1 - 20/4.4)
-354.5454545454545

The house edge when betting 1 satoshi is minus 354.5%...

Actually we have a verifier system on the stats site for that I believe. As well as full announcements (automated in chatr so anyone can check  their rolls at any time if they felt they had it mate Smiley

Well that addresses all my concerns then. Thanks. Smiley

Just a thought But I'll see if I can't get it answered properly for you Tongue
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June 07, 2015, 08:04:33 PM
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is there new deposit required to eligible get prize from this current jackpot amount, i had made my last deposit on 5th June so it ok or i have to make new deposit there after this announcement?

As longas your most recent entry in your ledger is a deposit mate Smiley
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