[DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ)

[smooth]

dumb shit?

WHo the f*ck do u think u r talking to people like that?

Don't worry I only call people that when they are actually behaving like dumb shits

when dasource, rynomster and/or longdnsshort (or several others) realize what heppened here the Sword of Damacles will come down on you like a hurricane  

dafuq

[smooth]

As quoted by rynomster the lead SDC dev:
more pumping nonsense about "better anon" vaporware.

As implemented today there is no there there. All you have are outputs, which can be used in ring signatures. If and when they implement something different in the future such as zerocoin we can discuss that.

[illodin]

Hi CH.

[P3RS3US]

As quoted by rynomster the lead SDC dev:
more pumping nonsense about "better anon" vaporware.

As implemented today there is no there there. All you have are outputs, which can be used in ring signatures. If and when they implement something different in the future such as zerocoin we can discuss that.

this is non-sequitur
whats the ref?

[P3RS3US]

illodin: u basterd   #inglorious

[dasource]

Besides, he claimed if he has the private keys he can de-anonymize 100% of the network.

Fair point. Since we had numerous different angels on the go that was inappropriate to use in that context (you cannot deanonymize DRK by simply having all the private keys; combine that with 1. logs or 2. ddos network and its a different game) ...
However all my other points stand.

1. You/drk fanboy started this convo by saying cryptographically secured anonymous transactions are flawed to which I responded.
2. To show the weakness in your argument I also pointed out that if a random crypto algo such as ECDSA (used by both) was cracked then it would be more harmful to DRK that Shadow (since anonymous transactions are secured via other algos so therefore your entire argument about using cryptography to secure transactions has flaws as it has a much more profound affect that just anonymity).

Rest pretty much stands ...

So going back to my point, I would be more worried about a "cryptographic" breakage if I was in DRK than Shadow (1,000 DRK masternodes pubkeys here I come )

[smooth]

As quoted by rynomster the lead SDC dev:
more pumping nonsense about "better anon" vaporware.

As implemented today there is no there there. All you have are outputs, which can be used in ring signatures. If and when they implement something different in the future such as zerocoin we can discuss that.

this is non-sequitur

For it to be a non-sequitur it would have to be incorrect. It is not.

whats the ref?

Try this, dumb shit:

[illodin]

1. You/drk fanboy started this convo by saying cryptographically secured anonymous transactions are flawed to which I responded.

I don't remember anyone saying it's flawed, just that it has risks that are different than the risks in off chain anonymity.

[P3RS3US]

As quoted by rynomster the lead SDC dev:
more pumping nonsense about "better anon" vaporware.

As implemented today there is no there there. All you have are outputs, which can be used in ring signatures. If and when they implement something different in the future such as zerocoin we can discuss that.

this is non-sequitur

For it to be a non-sequitur it would have to be incorrect. It is not.

whats the ref?

Try this, dumb shit:

OK

Im not the tech guy
My understanding is this:

SDC is a public token traceable and linkable on the blockchain
SDT is a private token untraceable and unlinkable on the blockchaim

SDT is just as powerful as XMR

The fact u can create/destroy them for SDC might lend an advantage - i dunno


BUT

dont call me a dumb shit again please
Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Lulz.

[dasource]

1. You/drk fanboy started this convo by saying cryptographically secured anonymous transactions are flawed to which I responded.

I don't remember anyone saying it's flawed, just that it has risks that are different than the risks in off chain anonymity.

It was in another thread also below..

The problem is that while it might be very secure in terms of 'hiding' a transaction, cryptonote puts all its eggs in one basket - a totally centralised solution. Break the cryptonote algo and you've rendered the entire money supply useless with subsequent collapse of the whole financial system based around that currency.

Now tell me how is that any difference to what would happen to DRK if ECDSA was cracked? not only is the entire DRK money supply on the line but I can pull a list of 2000 public address to raid first
You cannot use one argument to suit DRK and then ignore the profound effect it has itself on DRK.

[dasource]

@P3RS3US, dont waste your time .. did you not know CryptoNote was rebranding as Monero ...

[smooth]

Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Clue for the clueless: I'm a Monero dev but I'm also a long-time cryptocurrency enthusiast and who doesn't approve of ignorant (or perhaps not ignorant; that would be worse) pumpers using technobabble to rip of non-technical investors by misleading them into believe there is more substance than there actually is.

I'm not trash-talking, I'm calling you out for exactly this sort of scamming.

In fact now that you bring it up, the entire reason I'm involved with Monero at all, is that I recognized Bytecoin for their premine/instamine/ninjamine scam complete with fake suggestions of Cicada 3301 involvement and called them out for their bullshit just like I'm doing now with SDC. The difference is they actually had some substantive new cryptographic technology that was worth rescuing.

[Pline]

Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Clue for the clueless: I'm a Monero dev but I'm also a long-time cryptocurrency enthusiast and who doesn't approve of ignorant (or perhaps not ignorant; that would be worse) pumpers using technobabble to rip of non-technical investors by misleading them into believe there is more substance than there actually is.

I'm not trash-talking, I'm calling you out for exactly this sort of scamming.

You are the one scamming and FUDing and using the technobabble to make investors believe there is less than there actually is with SDC.  It makes sense that this would be your motive as a Monero dev, because Shadow would eat into your market share and is a threat to you.

[smooth]

Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Clue for the clueless: I'm a Monero dev but I'm also a long-time cryptocurrency enthusiast and who doesn't approve of ignorant (or perhaps not ignorant; that would be worse) pumpers using technobabble to rip of non-technical investors by misleading them into believe there is more substance than there actually is.

I'm not trash-talking, I'm calling you out for exactly this sort of scamming.

You are the one scamming and FUDing and using the technobabble to make investors believe there is less than there actually is with SDC.  It makes sense that this would be your motive as a Monero dev, because Shadow would eat into your market share and is a threat to you.

Yessir, that explains the quote from the SDC whitepaper. Fabricated obviously. Fucking Monero scammers are faking a white paper now.

[P3RS3US]

Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Clue for the clueless: I'm a Monero dev but I'm also a long-time cryptocurrency enthusiast and who doesn't approve of ignorant (or perhaps not ignorant; that would be worse) pumpers using technobabble to rip of non-technical investors by misleading them into believe there is more substance than there actually is.

I'm not trash-talking, I'm calling you out for exactly this sort of scamming.

In fact now that you bring it up, the entire reason I'm involved with Monero at all, is that I recognized Bytecoin for their premise/instamine/ninjamine scam complete with fake suggestions of Cicada 3301 involvement and called them out for their bullshit just like I'm doing now with SDC. The difference is they actually had some substantive new cryptographic technology that was worth rescuing.

Dude… u don't know me… don't get personal. This is about tech.

+ u drop shit like "Cicada 3301" trying to flummox ur opponents with fancy terms. C'mon man… speak english

[Propulsion]

dont call me a dumb shit again please
Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Lulz.

Why should 'Dev's' be held to a higher standard; if you're allowed to curse at him, why can't he curse at you?

Most of today's 'Dev's' do nothing more than change a few lines of code anyway. They're over glorified.

*not directed at anyone in particular. (maybe Dan Metacalf)

Edit: Sine when did these 'Dev's' become peoples personal Gods? Maybe this should be a new topic all by itself.

[P3RS3US]

dont call me a dumb shit again please
Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Lulz.

Why should 'Dev's' be held to a higher standard; if you're allowed to curse at him, why can't he curse at you?

Most of today's 'Dev's' do nothing more than change a few lines of code anyway. They're over glorified.

*not directed at anyone in particular. (maybe Dan Metacalf)

smooth spends a lot of time protecting his interests on BCT.
More time than actual dev'ing IMO.

Whats wrong with this picture is all I'm asking?
NVM smooth will have a smart-ass comeback 4 sure



He knows SDT are like CN/XMR (with more rings sigs)
He knows…

[smooth]

Most of today's 'Dev's' do nothing more than change a few lines of code anyway. They're over glorified.

True but this doesn't apply to SDC or Monero or DRK.

SDC (along with several others using a similar model) is a slightly different sort of scam from most alts, where they actually did some significant coding, but then blow way out of proportion the novelty and value of it with a lot of misleading technobabble.

[Propulsion]

dont call me a dumb shit again please
Ur a Monero DEV who spends his time on BCT trash-talking crypto peeps?

Lulz.

Why should 'Dev's' be held to a higher standard; if you're allowed to curse at him, why can't he curse at you?

Most of today's 'Dev's' do nothing more than change a few lines of code anyway. They're over glorified.

*not directed at anyone in particular. (maybe Dan Metacalf)

smooth spends a lot of time protecting his interests on BCT.
More time than actual dev'ing IMO.

Whats wrong with this picture is all I'm asking?
NVM smooth will have a smart-ass comeback 4 sure

If you've been on these forums for more than a week you'd see that everyone has their own personal agenda no matter what. Even the person you're talking to.

So what if Smooth is affiliated with another currency. Let him voice what he thinks without hiding behind a second account.

Most of today's 'Dev's' do nothing more than change a few lines of code anyway. They're over glorified.

True but this doesn't apply to SDC or Monero or DRK.

SDC (along with several others using a similar model) is a slightly different sort of scam from most alts, where they actually did some significant coding, but then blow way out of proportion the novelty and value of it with a lot of misleading technobabble.

You're missing my point.

[smooth]

He knows SDT are like CN/XMR (with more rings sigs)
He knows…

It doesn't have "more ring sigs." That phrase doesn't even mean anything (more technobabble). Both coins allow the user to specify the desired number of mixins in a ring sig.