[DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ)

[erok]

Hey Dofus! Why you no add BBR??  

Not at all clear it is among the 'best known' at this point. Not even on the first page of coinmarketcap.

Fuck off Monero dev!!! 


blah

Smooth is more legit than you could ever be.

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[RajRambo]

Hey Dofus! Why you no add BBR??  

Not at all clear it is among the 'best known' at this point. Not even on the first page of coinmarketcap.

Fuck off Monero dev!!! 


blah

Smooth is more legit than you could ever be.

Keep taking the acid.

[smooth]

Notice the "Newbie" account with low activity, indicating the account is an obvious sock puppet troll.



Best to ignore these poor souls. They are mentally ill.

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

• These trolls are some truly difficult people.
  
• It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
  

[RajRambo]

Notice the "Newbie" account with low activity, indicating the account is an obvious sock puppet troll.

https://i.imgur.com/aQ1T3Sf.png

Best to ignore these poor souls. They are mentally ill.

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

• These trolls are some truly difficult people.
  
• It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.

Speaking of "low activity"...

Since the Bytecoin fork, Monero has achieved:

1. storing the blockchain on disk without needing 6GB ram (now in month 12, not released yet).
2. Updating the wallet from version 0.8.8.6 (now in month 9, not released yet).
3. Electrum wallet (probably not Monero devs because it's at least 2 days work)
4. Fixing a file someone pointed out the code was shit

Did I miss anything?

[smooth]

Notice the "Newbie" account with low activity, indicating the account is an obvious sock puppet troll.



Best to ignore these poor souls. They are mentally ill.

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

• These trolls are some truly difficult people.
  
• It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.

Speaking of "low activity"...

Since the Bytecoin fork, Monero has achieved:

1. storing the blockchain on disk without needing 6GB ram (now in month 12, not released yet).
2. Updating the wallet from version 0.8.8.6 (now in month 9, not released yet).
3. Electrum wallet (probably not Monero devs because it's at least 2 days work)
4. Fixing a file someone pointed out the code was shit

Did I miss anything?

Yes you did, and you are incorrect about #3 not being Monero devs.

You or anyone (especially non sock puppet trolls) are welcome to review the 1000+ commits if you want to know more.

[RajRambo]

Notice the "Newbie" account with low activity, indicating the account is an obvious sock puppet troll.

https://i.imgur.com/aQ1T3Sf.png

Best to ignore these poor souls. They are mentally ill.

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

• These trolls are some truly difficult people.
  
• It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.

Speaking of "low activity"...

Since the Bytecoin fork, Monero has achieved:

1. storing the blockchain on disk without needing 6GB ram (now in month 12, not released yet).
2. Updating the wallet from version 0.8.8.6 (now in month 9, not released yet).
3. Electrum wallet (probably not Monero devs because it's at least 2 days work)
4. Fixing a file someone pointed out the code was shit

Did I miss anything?

Yes you did, and you are incorrect about #3 not being Monero devs.

You or anyone (especially non sock puppet trolls) are welcome to review the 1000+ commits if you want to know more.

So nothing else of any value you can say other than the 4 I showed.  Still hiding behind the quantity of commits, most of which is commenting / minor stuff and half finished projects that don't work.   You can't say any value to the user base, just "look, lots of commits!!!".  Just more bullshit  

[Dofus]

Enough fights folks ! We're all in cryptoland after all...

Anyway, I will manage to update this topic very soon

[safecoin]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

[dNote]

Will add some of DigitalNote XDN comparison here in a few days.

[fluffypony]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

Doesn't count as anonymous because 80%+ of the utxoset is owned by entities who mined them before it became public and global, which means that those entities can deanonymise pretty much all future transactions.

Marketcap is irrelevant as it's easily inflated (doubly so when all you have to do is slightly bump the price due to the massive amount that's already emitted).

[smooth]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

Doesn't count as anonymous because 80%+ of the utxoset is owned by entities who mined them before it became public and global, which means that those entities can deanonymise pretty much all future transactions.

Marketcap is irrelevant as it's easily inflated (doubly so when all you have to do is slightly bump the price due to the massive amount that's already emitted).

They have long ago been sold and redistributed, same as the 2 million dash

In neither case is that knowable, so it's simply an empty argument that is guaranteed to be made by those with an incentive to make it. Probably less knowable in the case of BCN since the anon system is better.

even more so as the coin is a lot older

No, it is well documented that the claimed 2012 launch is a fabrication or at best highly questionable.

[Tash]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

Doesn't count as anonymous because 80%+ of the utxoset is owned by entities who mined them before it became public and global, which means that those entities can deanonymise pretty much all future transactions.

Marketcap is irrelevant as it's easily inflated (doubly so when all you have to do is slightly bump the price due to the massive amount that's already emitted).

They have long ago been sold and redistributed, same as the 2 million dash

In neither case is that knowable, so it's simply an empty argument that is guaranteed to be made by those with an incentive to make it. Probably less knowable in the case of BCN since the anon system is better.

even more so as the coin is a lot older

No, it is well documented that the claimed 2012 launch is a fabrication or at best highly questionable.

https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1

[smooth]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

Doesn't count as anonymous because 80%+ of the utxoset is owned by entities who mined them before it became public and global, which means that those entities can deanonymise pretty much all future transactions.

Marketcap is irrelevant as it's easily inflated (doubly so when all you have to do is slightly bump the price due to the massive amount that's already emitted).

They have long ago been sold and redistributed, same as the 2 million dash

In neither case is that knowable, so it's simply an empty argument that is guaranteed to be made by those with an incentive to make it. Probably less knowable in the case of BCN since the anon system is better.

even more so as the coin is a lot older

No, it is well documented that the claimed 2012 launch is a fabrication or at best highly questionable.

https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1

You can put any date you want in a block.

I could easily recreate the entire first "two years" of the BCN blockchain on my own computers with year 1980 in the headers. I'm a fan of big hair and Cyndi Lauper

♫ Oh girls just want to have fun ♫

[newrad]

Nice scam pump bro.

[ArticMine]

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https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1

The timestamp for BCN block 1 is very interesting: 2012-07-04 05:00:00 Note the zeros in the minutes and seconds.

The claim of "first anonymous coin"  belongs to Dash before it belongs to Bytecoin.

Edit:

For comparison:

Bitcoin block 1 timestamp: 2009-01-09 02:54:25
Dash block 1 timestamp: 2014-01-19 03:54:41
DigitalNote block 1 timestamp: 2014-05-30 21:51:26
Monero block 1 timestamp: 2014-04-18 10:49:53
ShadowCash block 1 timestamp: 2014-07-19 09:06:08

[fluffypony]

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https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1

The timestamp for BCN block 1 is very interesting: 2012-07-04 05:00:00 Note the zeros in the minutes and seconds.

inb4 "someone hacked the BCN genesis block to have an exact time!"

[LiteBit]

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https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1

The timestamp for BCN block 1 is very interesting: 2012-07-04 05:00:00 Note the zeros in the minutes and seconds.

The claim of "first anonymous coin"  belongs to Dash before it belongs to Bytecoin.

Edit:

For comparison:

Bitcoin block 1 timestamp: 2009-01-09 02:54:25
Dash block 1 timestamp: 2014-01-19 03:54:41
DigitalNote block 1 timestamp: 2014-05-30 21:51:26
Monero block 1 timestamp: 2014-04-18 10:49:53
ShadowCash block 1 timestamp: 2014-07-19 09:06:08

When did darkcoin's masternode mixing system go online? that's the date needed in the comparison above.

[ArticMine]

The point of the comparison is that the probability of the genesis block timestamp in Bytecoin having exactly 0 minutes and 0 seconds is 1/3600 under a legitimate creation of the genesis block. All the other coins in the comparison do not have exactly 0 minutes and 0 seconds in the genesis block timestamp.  This is just further evidence that the Bytecoin block chain was faked 2 years after the supposed launch of Bytecoin in 2012 and furthermore that the idea that Bytecoin was launched over 18 months before Dash is fraudulent.

Edit 1: This has nothing to do with the exact time of the creation of the first Dash masternode; however I doubt that the time of the creation of the first Dash masternode has exactly 0 minutes and 0 seconds.
Edit 2: The whole Bytecoin saga is covered in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0

[illodin]

I liked this thread until the last two pages.

What about Bytecoin?  Does it not meet the requirements of most "known" anonymous coins?

Went dead for a year, but extremely active development in 2015 and extremely impressive feature list.   

Second-highest market cap of Any anonymous coin (other than Dash).

Doesn't count as anonymous because 80%+ of the utxoset is owned by entities who mined them before it became public and global, which means that those entities can deanonymise pretty much all future transactions.

Marketcap is irrelevant as it's easily inflated (doubly so when all you have to do is slightly bump the price due to the massive amount that's already emitted).

Are you guys all high or something?
In crypto you have to work in worst case scenario, exspecial if anonymity is involved.
The Darkcoin/Dash 2 million dev mine is a blockchain fact and equals to 2000 masternodes.
Masternode payments so far acound for almost 600 created masternodes from masternods makes the devmine worth 2.6 million to date.
Masternodes makes Dash supposing anonymous.
I have no idea how many total masternodes exist, lets just say 3000. 
So 2600 of 3000 is 86.66% of the mixing is done by instamined coins.
Thats not even worst case as no other whale is taken into consideration to be in cahoots, nor coins purchased or mined after the first day.
Even if only 51% of the premined coins provide the masternodes it is a mathematical certainty that over time 90% or more of the mixing is done by the premined coins as they ever generate more than all others together.
As it stands tomorrow 1.38 of the total 1.6 masternode payment adds to the early coins.
lol calling bytecoin not anon it has better fundamentals to start with, superior tech and ever better mixing percentages.
Calling Dash anonymous is a insult to intelligence.

Well, it's a good thing you won't be insulted then.

[unusualfacts30]

that's a decent comparison

lol@ people bashing dash