[ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now

[toptek]

when we can buy again these miner?

Nobody knows really but I think zoomhash has a couple instock at the crazy price of 2000$, so if you really want one and want to lose money you could get one from them, I would wait it out,  they seem to be having issues.

It is crazy how much they jacked the price a 40 percent margin on a reseller is rediclous.  I think were better off waiting on future batch and we will have a chance at roi then.

I predict resellers start at high mark, and run them their self  until sold.   Most likely keeping a high margin till next batch is close to shipping.    It is sad but we can hope next batch soon.

Oh most definitely they are doing that and until the next batch is there they can drop it down to a 10% percent mark up and make a ton still and have had some free machines to mine off for a couple of months.

I don't believe it's legal to do that in the USA (selling used equipment as new). I would hope zoomhash would know better. If anyone receives a unit from zoomhash that obviously looks used they should explore their legal options. I bet you could end up getting the miner for free after damages

In the US It is but you have to prove it by filing complaints they will step in and look at it . but it is a from of fraud . and any new products sold in the US are suppose to come with a year warranty by law .  not 90 days . but bitmain gets a way with that one by selling over the internet as far as i know they do no kind of in store sells or have no  brick and mortar stores in the US that's how they get way with it unlike steal series etc. I mean you just can't go to your local bestbuy and buy a (ANtS5) if we could it has to have a year warranty and be new if it is sold as new . i think used stuff can be any were from 30 to 90 days .

I found that out once with a steal series gaming mouse, I had to return for warranty.

There is a mark up law to but doing it over the internet  bypasses that one to .
 
I never push it because i know i won't get any were with it so i leave it a lone . beside even if i could it might hurt miners in the US any way why would i want to hurt us over a warranty etc the whole world would have to stand up to them .to fix it .

I feel this way about them all because of a recent ripe off i feel bitmain tried to do to me and played pretty hard nosed about it for no reason . for a while there i thought they were really cool .

EU has a longer warranty steal series told me but i have no idea how it works there .

[QuintLeo]

It's not like this is a new company touting impossible specs. They've been around for more than a year (formerly known as gridseed) and have delivered all miners without any significant issues AFAIK.

 Gridseed had quite a few issues with their units, in fact. The original orbs were widely reported to have VERY bad QC and poor design, the "80" blades were BADLY underengineered and tended to eat their power voltage converter circuitry a LOT - but they DID deliver reliably, just that the stuff they delivered had VERY BAD board-level engineering. Their GC3355 CHIPS however seemed to work well.

 From what I've seen about the SF100 so far, that appears to NOT have changed.

any new products sold in the US are suppose to come with a year warranty by law

 There is NO such law to my knowlage at the federal level. There is a RECOMMENDATION out of the FTC that does not in fact have force of law on that subject.
 If you're looking at something else, link it.


 Selling used gear as new, however, is an open-and-shut case of fraud under US consumer protection laws - if it can be proved that the item WAS in fact used when it was sold as new. There are some outs though - like cars that are test-driven can still be sold as new as long as they get the full factory warentee, and electronic gear that goes through burn-in testing by the manufacturer is still counted as new.


 I've not seen Zoomhash doing that to date, but my sample size of gear bought from them is fairly small.

[toptek]

It's not like this is a new company touting impossible specs. They've been around for more than a year (formerly known as gridseed) and have delivered all miners without any significant issues AFAIK.

 Gridseed had quite a few issues with their units, in fact. The original orbs were widely reported to have VERY bad QC and poor design, the "80" blades were BADLY underengineered and tended to eat their power voltage converter circuitry a LOT - but they DID deliver reliably, just that the stuff they delivered had VERY BAD board-level engineering. Their GC3355 CHIPS however seemed to work well.

 From what I've seen about the SF100 so far, that appears to NOT have changed.

any new products sold in the US are suppose to come with a year warranty by law

 There is NO such law to my knowlage at the federal level. There is a RECOMMENDATION out of the FTC that does not in fact have force of law on that subject.
 If you're looking at something else, link it.


 Selling used gear as new, however, is an open-and-shut case of fraud under US consumer protection laws - if it can be proved that the item WAS in fact used when it was sold as new. There are some outs though - like cars that are test-driven can still be sold as new as long as they get the full factory warentee, and electronic gear that goes through burn-in testing by the manufacturer is still counted as new.


 I've not seen Zoomhash doing that to date, but my sample size of gear bought from them is fairly small.

your right i was thinking of the  implied warranty all most all states have . I will try to find out what Steal series meant mybad . they told me the US warranty in the US is for one year on new products  by law and the EU warranty extends longer . I guess I miss understand just what they meant . but I went and looked after you said NO such law your right .was going by what steal series told me they replaced it after i sent it in they had make sure it was defective which is normal and fair .


I saw some thing thu  about that

 Selling used gear as new, however, is an open-and-shut case of fraud under US consumer protection laws - if it can be proved that the item WAS in fact used when it was sold as new. There are some outs though - like cars that are test-driven can still be sold as new as long as they get the full factory warentee, and electronic gear that goes through burn-in testing by the manufacturer is still counted as new.  

Don't test-driven drien car have a limit on the miles it driven before that's not true or it is used.  but yea it if sold as new and is used you can prove it then it's fraud. key word prove it .

that may hold up diff  didn't really pay much attention to it about cars it may fall under a diff complaint if they try to claim it as a burn-in testing etc and the dealer can't say that's on the manufacturer any more either . but its a real pain in the but to get thu it all . might not be worth the hassle . and your state would handle that i think it said .


I've never seen Zoomhash do it either and anything i bought off them was new it was sold as new or used if it's sold that way . but Ive only bought little stuff from them to .

[Krymitus]

Almost there:

https://i.imgur.com/1IHEesJ.jpg?1

@J4bberwock,

will you create a new post specifically for your new toys? So far I could see, I'm betting all my coins on your project than SF100...

[toptek]

Almost there:

@J4bberwock,

will you create a new post specifically for your new toys? So far I could see, I'm betting all my coins on your project than SF100...

I would love to have a custom made board like this one ... I 'm watching this one a lot .

[notlist3d]

Almost there:

@J4bberwock,

will you create a new post specifically for your new toys? So far I could see, I'm betting all my coins on your project than SF100...

I would love to have a custom made board like this one ... I 'm watching this one a lot .

I have to agree looks very nice with white PCB!   Thanks for keeping us up to date.

To be able to play with these chips and not pay 1.2k would have many customers I think.   So I think you have a market

[jelin1984]

i want to buy some

any link?

[mindtrip]

My SFARDS unit is working just fine at the speeds advertised. The software interface is a little confusing to setup, and I haven't figured out how to overclock but I am getting 1.7TH SHA256 and 50MH Scrypt running on a 1200 Watt Evga Platinum PSU and power draw is about what I expected. I can post some screen shots of pool stats or the web interface for the controller for anyone that is interested

[philipma1957]

My SFARDS unit is working just fine at the speeds advertised. The software interface is a little confusing to setup, and I haven't figured out how to overclock but I am getting 1.7TH SHA256 and 50MH Scrypt running on a 1200 Watt Evga Platinum PSU and power draw is about what I expected. I can post some screen shots of pool stats or the web interface for the controller for anyone that is interested

please post lots of shots  and please show power usage if you can.

[mindtrip]

My SFARDS unit is working just fine at the speeds advertised. The software interface is a little confusing to setup, and I haven't figured out how to overclock but I am getting 1.7TH SHA256 and 50MH Scrypt running on a 1200 Watt Evga Platinum PSU and power draw is about what I expected. I can post some screen shots of pool stats or the web interface for the controller for anyone that is interested

please post lots of shots  and please show power usage if you can.

Screen shots from Ghash of my hashing speed

[mindtrip]

Screen shot of the web interface its all managed from the cloud using there website cant figure out how to login to local machine and OC yet

[p3yot33at3r]

One day at 5.49Th/s? On a single unit? How's that possible?

[notlist3d]

Screen shot of the web interface its all managed from the cloud using there website cant figure out how to login to local machine and OC yet

saving space

Are you saying there is not a local interface to manage miner?   It is all done online?

I hope it is not all done online without local.   That would be different to say the least.

[mindtrip]

One day at 5.49Th/s? On a single unit? How's that possible?

something weird happen i had a spike to 30TH out of no where

[mindtrip]

Screen shot of the web interface its all managed from the cloud using there website cant figure out how to login to local machine and OC yet

saving space

Are you saying there is not a local interface to manage miner?   It is all done online?

I hope it is not all done online without local.   That would be different to say the least.

if you go to login to the device's local IP it has a web server but I haven't figured out how to login the password I setup for the website wasn't working for the local interface I have to try and play with that a little

[mindtrip]

Noise level of the miner is Lower than an S5 but higher than an S3 id say its in between only has 1 large fan but it has run solid for 5 days now no issues no rebooting

[notlist3d]

Screen shot of the web interface its all managed from the cloud using there website cant figure out how to login to local machine and OC yet

saving space

Are you saying there is not a local interface to manage miner?   It is all done online?

I hope it is not all done online without local.   That would be different to say the least.

if you go to login to the device's local IP it has a web server but I haven't figured out how to login the password I setup for the website wasn't working for the local interface I have to try and play with that a little

Ahh ok thanks!  If it was only online that would scare me as if service goes down then miner might be a brick.  

Hopefully they will release username/pass so we can see local.

[mindtrip]

Screen shot of the web interface its all managed from the cloud using there website cant figure out how to login to local machine and OC yet

saving space

Are you saying there is not a local interface to manage miner?   It is all done online?

I hope it is not all done online without local.   That would be different to say the least.

if you go to login to the device's local IP it has a web server but I haven't figured out how to login the password I setup for the website wasn't working for the local interface I have to try and play with that a little

Ahh ok thanks!  If it was only online that would scare me as if service goes down then miner might be a brick.  

Hopefully they will release username/pass so we can see local.

getting it to "bind" as they call it to your account is a little strange you need to login to there website then from the browser it scans your LAN and reports back any miners it finds. You then bind it to your account it reboots then you can manage and configure it from that web interface. It is definitely not intuitive at all it took me over an hour to get the thing working and I have had hands on experience with pretty much every type of mining hardware produced in the last 2 years, it kind of reminds me of the original ZenCloud Pi Devices before GAW turned that to shit

[p3yot33at3r]

One day at 5.49Th/s? On a single unit? How's that possible?

something weird happen i had a spike to 30TH out of no where

That's not a spike - that's a whole day, 24 hours. According to that screen shot, your 1.7Th miner was churning out 5.49Th for 24 hours - that's impossible.

[mavericklm]

One day at 5.49Th/s? On a single unit? How's that possible?

something weird happen i had a spike to 30TH out of no where

That's not a spike - that's a whole day, 24 hours. According to that screen shot, your 1.7Th miner was churning out 5.49Th for 24 hours - that's impossible.

he had someone point ~30th to his address! it was pointed for so much time that it gave the average per day at 5.49Th. is that hard???