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June 18, 2013, 07:34:58 PM |
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Please, can somebody interested on keep on speculating about the short term hashrate changes of AM create a thread about it on the speculation subforum?
And please, link it here and everybody, please, keep the speculation there.
Thank you, very much.
We've got an AM speculation thread right here, but people are speculating about future value of BTC/USD...  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235763 |
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twentyseventy
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June 18, 2013, 07:43:00 PM |
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Did anyone notice that HASHPOWER drooped to 99TH...What happen???
I guess I'm hedged pretty well - I wasn't sure whether to be glad that AM will now pick up more of the Network % or sad that my DMS.SELLING would take longer to pay off...  Did anyone notice that HASHPOWER drooped to 99TH...What happen???
Blockchain.info API error...  *fixed Thanks, I was wondering as well! |
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June 18, 2013, 07:57:57 PM |
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Blue dots incoming!  7/28 dots = 25%  |
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June 18, 2013, 08:01:06 PM |
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does nobody ask friedcat via mail/PM what happend with the AM Hashrate?
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twentyseventy
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June 18, 2013, 08:05:15 PM |
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does nobody ask friedcat via mail/PM what happend with the AM Hashrate?
Pretty much everyone tries not to bug him incessantly. Highly doubting he's going to respond to PMs unless they're from someone like TAT or a well known forum/exchange member. |
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June 18, 2013, 08:05:40 PM |
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Blue dots incoming! 7/28 dots = 25% Where did you get this 7/28 from?? I only see 10 in the picture .... |
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June 18, 2013, 08:07:16 PM |
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Pretty much everyone tries not to bug him incessantly. Highly doubting he's going to respond to PMs unless they're from someone like TAT or a well known forum/exchange member.
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Agree with you ,friedcat is a human, not superman.....we should believe him and let him do some his things.
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June 18, 2013, 08:08:02 PM |
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7/28 dots = 25% Where did you get this 7/28 from?? I only see 10 in the picture .... He meant 7 of the last 28 mined blocks are from Asicminer  |
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June 18, 2013, 08:14:34 PM |
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Blue dots incoming! 7/28 dots = 25% Is this page a real time updated? if you could share this website,I will be appreciated... |
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JordanL
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June 18, 2013, 09:24:10 PM |
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does nobody ask friedcat via mail/PM what happend with the AM Hashrate?
Pretty much everyone tries not to bug him incessantly. Highly doubting he's going to respond to PMs unless they're from someone like TAT or a well known forum/exchange member. Black Lilac Financial has a red phone direct to friedcat's office. *note: the above may or may not be a totally made-up fantasy of mineI think everyone here, do not start panic selling, in case both assumptions are not pessimistic. correction: do start panic selling, Im waiting @ the bottom for your sell orders. Yes...I should change it , everyone start panic selling right now...I am waiting @ the bottom... This exactly... everyone SELL SELL SELL!!! (until I am finished buying at least) Please check my math, tear my argument to pieces, come up with other ideas.. but try and help me answer this question. How the hell are we out of blades with how many we have sold?
I don't think AM is out of blades. This is just supposition on my part, drawing inferences on how friedcat has behaved so far. I think friedcat knew that the blades weren't a good deal for buyers anymore at 50 BTC so he pulled them and will either sell them in bulk in private at a discount or deploy them to keep the network share up (or a bit of both). The alternative would have been to drop the price the public pays every time the difficulty went up. The problem with that is that it encourages people to hold off on purchases to wait for a bargain. I think friedcat is a smart enough businessman (smarter than basically everyone, heh) to know that mining is a classic repeat customer business. If you screw over your customers the way some other vendors are doing at the moment, they'll think twice about dealing with you again. However, if you under promise and over deliver, they'll beat a path to your door, again and again. So he puts blades on sale for a while, then takes them off when they're no longer a good deal. People will learn that if they want AM products, it's best to get in early when the rewards are best, as they'll offer the best return early and won't be on sale forever. In a few weeks, a refreshed product will come out at a lower price point with better features. Demand will have built up again, and early purchasers will have had a few weeks of less competition from other sales. EDIT: Dimly recall from some marketing seminars that products are all about a "promise" - shinier hair, whiter teeth, attractive to the opposite sex, etc. Most other vendors doing pre-orders are selling a "gamble". AM is selling (relative) certainty. "Order this product today, have it in 5 days and start using it." That's a clear point of difference that no-one else has yet offered. EDIT #2: That's also why I've noticed a lot of AM haters coming out of the woodwork. They look at the AM offering and scoff "how can you pay that much per Ghash? I can get xxx Ghash for $yyy from Company ZZZ. AM customers are all stupid." Those people are not in AM's target market (they really want a gamble, or they are possibly just self-deluded about when they will get their hardware) so they mock anyone who doesn't think the same way they do. I think this is a terrific analysis and most aspects of what you said are likely very accurate. The edit about the "haters" is dead on. People call those of us who are happy with our ASICs making a profit in 8-12 months "insane" and "stupid", we "can't do math". Betting that kmcminer/bitfury/BFL/Avalon will deliver on a pre-order that will make a huge profit in a matter of months is a gamble. Buying ASICMINER devices that make a steady profit is a business. If they wanted to reduce price regularly, they could use a formula that factored current difficulty. This would make it "fair" to previous buyers quite dynamically.
You stole my idea! I posted that idea a few (dozen) pages back and no one noticed it, or commented at least. |
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June 18, 2013, 10:01:42 PM |
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Please, can somebody interested on keep on speculating about the short term hashrate changes of AM create a thread about it on the speculation subforum?
And please, link it here and everybody, please, keep the speculation there.
Thank you, very much.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235763.msg2513845#msg2513845It was working for a while but things got more interesting here And agree with the reasons you guys are posting |
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June 18, 2013, 10:13:25 PM |
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Please, can somebody interested on keep on speculating about the short term hashrate changes of AM create a thread about it on the speculation subforum?
And please, link it here and everybody, please, keep the speculation there.
Thank you, very much.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235763.msg2513845#msg2513845It was working for a while but things got more interesting here And agree with the reasons you guys are posting Can people that want to keep this thread clean just STFU and realize that because this thread is the largest and most people will watch it, any and all good discussion happens here or is copied here for more people to see? Don't want to read all these posts? STOP trying to keep up with ASICMINER news. Only want the most important information? ONLY read friedcat posts and shut up. To people saying I need to chill about "where are the other blades!" I am chill, I just... as someone said... Love to do detective work using information that is publicly available. People ~3 days ago were saying because we stopped blade sales divs would be low... and now look because of my theory some people not are speculating that we may get the best dividend ever! And if people believe that, better share price! Better share price means I can sell of a portion and pay off my student loans!  Lets keep the discussions giong, as long as posts are meaningful keep them coming! for people that post meaningless dribble, set them on ignore. Is it time again to guess at the dividand? I am going to throw out there that this week will be the week to break .04 and then cross my fingers. |
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June 18, 2013, 10:15:05 PM |
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I don't mind either way just pointing it out for one faction or the other  Off topic 98 to 196 I == aahzm Now goes to find what the heck activity is |
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June 18, 2013, 10:58:01 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2013, 11:48:24 PM by KarmaShark |
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Is it time again to guess at the dividand? I am going to throw out there that this week will be the week to break .04 and then cross my fingers.
I can only dream. Going for a conservative .025 here. |
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June 18, 2013, 11:27:10 PM |
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Can people that want to keep this thread clean just STFU and realize that because this thread is the largest and most people will watch it, any and all good discussion happens here or is copied here for more people to see? Don't want to read all these posts? STOP trying to keep up with ASICMINER news. Only want the most important information? ONLY read friedcat posts and shut up. To people saying I need to chill about "where are the other blades!" I am chill, I just... as someone said... Love to do detective work using information that is publicly available. People ~3 days ago were saying because we stopped blade sales divs would be low... and now look because of my theory some people not are speculating that we may get the best dividend ever! And if people believe that, better share price! Better share price means I can sell of a portion and pay off my student loans! Lets keep the discussions giong, as long as posts are meaningful keep them coming! for people that post meaningless dribble, set them on ignore. Is it time again to guess at the dividand? I am going to throw out there that this week will be the week to break .04 and then cross my fingers. I would get a refund back from whatever school you went to, based on simple grammar. |
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June 18, 2013, 11:30:33 PM |
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Can people that want to keep this thread clean just STFU and realize that because this thread is the largest and most people will watch it, any and all good discussion happens here or is copied here for more people to see? Don't want to read all these posts? STOP trying to keep up with ASICMINER news. Only want the most important information? ONLY read friedcat posts and shut up. To people saying I need to chill about "where are the other blades!" I am chill, I just... as someone said... Love to do detective work using information that is publicly available. People ~3 days ago were saying because we stopped blade sales divs would be low... and now look because of my theory some people not are speculating that we may get the best dividend ever! And if people believe that, better share price! Better share price means I can sell of a portion and pay off my student loans! Lets keep the discussions giong, as long as posts are meaningful keep them coming! for people that post meaningless dribble, set them on ignore. Is it time again to guess at the dividand? I am going to throw out there that this week will be the week to break .04 and then cross my fingers. I would get a refund back from whatever school you went to, based on simple grammar. I could actually feel my brain cells dying off as I read his mess. I hope I'll be okay.. |
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June 18, 2013, 11:58:05 PM |
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I can only dream.
Going for a conservative .025 here.
conservative? that's wishful thinking. We'll be lucky to get much above .02. No blade sales, mining is around .016, USBs are slowing. |
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June 19, 2013, 12:03:44 AM |
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Can people that want to keep this thread clean just STFU and realize that because this thread is the largest and most people will watch it, any and all good discussion happens here or is copied here for more people to see? Don't want to read all these posts? STOP trying to keep up with ASICMINER news. Only want the most important information? ONLY read friedcat posts and shut up. To people saying I need to chill about "where are the other blades!" I am chill, I just... as someone said... Love to do detective work using information that is publicly available. People ~3 days ago were saying because we stopped blade sales divs would be low... and now look because of my theory some people not are speculating that we may get the best dividend ever! And if people believe that, better share price! Better share price means I can sell of a portion and pay off my student loans! Lets keep the discussions giong, as long as posts are meaningful keep them coming! for people that post meaningless dribble, set them on ignore. Is it time again to guess at the dividand? I am going to throw out there that this week will be the week to break .04 and then cross my fingers. I would get a refund back from whatever school you went to, based on simple grammar. I could actually feel my brain cells dying off as I read his mess. I hope I'll be okay.. Yes! My plan is working! Use my utter lack of ability in conveying coherent ideas in the English language to poison the brains of shareholders into selling me their holdings! So, please now send a message to friedcat to send all your holdings to 1SGvKZibKZyJGzpxwyUo5hR9PSmPyRxKS and I will then pay you .1 per share, IPO price sounds fair to me! Love how people bitch about OT shit, then take the time to critique peoples English. Back to the discussion... How do you know there will be no blade sales, as I have stated the announcement that we are OUT of blades could mean that we sold a MASSIVE number of blades. That, or we are going to see a big hashrate bump soon with held blades. |
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June 19, 2013, 12:18:12 AM |
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Back to the discussion... How do you know there will be no blade sales because of this: The blades are temporarily out of stock.
Please wait till late June to early July for newer blades with improved design and better price.
They are not selling blades, and everyone that was trying to buy one for at least a week before that announcement wasn't getting a response from Friedcat. That is a good indication that no blades have been sold. we are going to see a big hashrate bump soon with held blades. could happen, and we'd gladly welcome that, especially with the current hashrate the lowest it's been in several weeks. |
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