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January 07, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
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Hi, A new service has been launched, which issues Visa debit cards linked to bitcoin wallet. The cards are available in USD, EUR and GBP. Delivery within Europe - 5-10 days (usually quicker), worldwide - depending on local post. BTC transfer into fiat on the card is immediate. For more detail, please visit: www.e-coin.io  As suggested by the Hero Member (Puppet), adding all the details about the debit card to this initial post so that everything is in one place and easier to find.Current price of the card: $17 or 0.06BTCList of countries where the card can be ordered/delivered to:Aland Islands Albania Andorra Anguilla Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Armenia Aruba Australia Austria Bahamas Bahrain Barbados Belgium Belize Bermuda Bhutan Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba Bosnia and Herzegovina Brazil Brunei Darussalam Bulgaria Canada Cape Verde Cayman Islands Chile China Costa Rica Croatia CURACAO Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Dominica Dominican Republic El Salvador Estonia Falkland Islands (Malvinas) Faroe Islands Finland France French Guiana Georgia Germany Gibraltar Greece Greenland Grenada Guadeloupe Guatemala Guernsey Guyana Hong Kong Hungary Iceland Indonesia Ireland Isle of Man Israel Italy Jamaica Japan Jersey Jordan Kazakhstan Korea (South) Kuwait Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Macedonia, the former Yugoslav Republic of Malaysia Maldives Malta Martinique Mauritius Mayotte Mexico Moldova, Republic of Monaco Mongolia Montenegro Morocco Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Norway Oman Panama Papua New Guinea Paraguay Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Qatar Reunion Romania Russian Federation Saint Barthelemy Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia Saint Martin (French part) Saint Vincent and the Grenadines San Marino Saudi Arabia Serbia Seychelles Singapore Sint Maarten (Dutch part) Slovakia Slovenia Somalia South Africa Spain Suriname Sweden Switzerland Taiwan, Province of China Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Turkey Turks and Caicos Islands Ukraine United Arab Emirates United Kingdom Uruguay Virgin Islands, British Please DO NOT order a card if your country is not on the list Card limits: If you want to increase the card limits, please, contact support@e-coin.ioSome of company credentials:Recent article on http://CryptoArticles.com: http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/e-coins-bitcoin-debit-card-is-ready-to-ship-to-customers-worldwideE-Coin participation in the recent BitcoinExpo 2015 in London: http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/startup-show/http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.ukCompany No. 09228951 https://www.duedil.com/company/09228951/e-coin-trading-limitedhttp://companycheck.co.uk/company/09228951/E-COIN-TRADING-LIMITED |
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bakedrice
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January 07, 2015, 06:24:26 PM |
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does it even work?
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finlon
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January 07, 2015, 06:28:41 PM |
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does it even work?
I guess we will have to wait for someone to try it out. Just to be clear, this is the same as buying a prepaid card right? |
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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January 07, 2015, 07:09:47 PM |
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does it even work?
Yes, available to order and already being shipped. Got one in my wallet. Would you like the invite to try it out? (needed while in beta stage) |
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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January 07, 2015, 07:16:46 PM |
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does it even work?
I guess we will have to wait for someone to try it out. Just to be clear, this is the same as buying a prepaid card right? Yes, similar to prepaid card, but not such a limited one - more like a debit card (valid for 3 years) which you can load with your coins in a couple clicks |
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s1lverbox
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January 07, 2015, 07:17:22 PM |
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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January 07, 2015, 07:30:41 PM |
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK |
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January 07, 2015, 08:01:34 PM |
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK Where in london u based? Please provide full details. That's shouldn't be a problem as you should be transparent. Full details please post here openly. Visa debit should be marked with debit dont you think? Did i missed something?: Card can be loaded with coins and used worldwide. So obviously someone exchanging coins for credit. If this is UK based business why u exchanging for USD? Why your domain expires in next 10 months (2015-10-21)? |
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January 07, 2015, 08:39:07 PM |
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Hmm, a private GoDaddy domain registration (whois data hidden) from 21-Oct-2014 and email etc handled anonymously at google.
I very much doubt such a company would be legit and able to deal with VISA ...
Anyone feel like doing a "hardware vendor" quality check on them to see if they are legit?
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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January 07, 2015, 08:42:21 PM |
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK Where in london u based? Please provide full details. That's shouldn't be a problem as you should be transparent. Full details please post here openly. Visa debit should be marked with debit dont you think? Did i missed something?: Card can be loaded with coins and used worldwide. So obviously someone exchanging coins for credit. If this is UK based business why u exchanging for USD? Why your domain expires in next 10 months (2015-10-21)? Full details can be found here: https://www.e-coin.io/legalThe card is clearly marked as Visa debit (see above), not sure I got you question.. Exchange of bitcoin into fiat is done via an official online exchange Based in the UK does not mean focused entirely on the UK. At this (beta) stage only USD nominated card is available, GBP and EUR are work in progress Domain - well spotted, I didn't even know, also work in progress, will point that out to the relevant person to sort out |
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January 07, 2015, 08:50:39 PM |
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK Where in london u based? Please provide full details. That's shouldn't be a problem as you should be transparent. Full details please post here openly. Visa debit should be marked with debit dont you think? Did i missed something?: Card can be loaded with coins and used worldwide. So obviously someone exchanging coins for credit. If this is UK based business why u exchanging for USD? Why your domain expires in next 10 months (2015-10-21)? Full details can be found here: https://www.e-coin.io/legalThe card is clearly marked as Visa debit (see above), not sure I got you question.. Exchange of bitcoin into fiat is done via an official online exchange Based in the UK does not mean focused entirely on the UK. At this (beta) stage only USD nominated card is available, GBP and EUR are work in progress Domain - well spotted, I didn't even know, also work in progress, will point that out to the relevant person to sort out If you are registered in UK and wales, please provide me with company registration number. As financial institution you are regulated in uk by FSA, please provide registry number for that as well. What exchange make possible to load coins and receive fiat on visa card. Your visa sign is not properly market as debit card. Your website have no info what so ever. Address found on weboste showing: a. Flat b. Virtual office Explain why you hiding and dont wont post all details on forum. |
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January 07, 2015, 08:52:18 PM |
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There are no details anywhere. Details you should have are the company name and full registration details. The fully verifiable names of the company owners and the historical contact address details of the company. To have such a card you must be dealing with VISA and VISA will not allow some random anonymous internet scammer to deal with them. They will require such details also. You expect people to give you BTC with a zero trust rating, no posts on this forum and all details about your company and web site hidden. Seriously - you think anyone WOULDN'T think it's a scam? |
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January 07, 2015, 09:15:33 PM |
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22/09/2014- incorporated in this date. So took them only 3 months to tied up themselfs with visa, crypto exchange, and now advertising this here? |
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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January 07, 2015, 09:20:24 PM |
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There are no details anywhere. Details you should have are the company name and full registration details. The fully verifiable names of the company owners and the historical contact address details of the company. To have such a card you must be dealing with VISA and VISA will not allow some random anonymous internet scammer to deal with them. They will require such details also. You expect people to give you BTC with a zero trust rating, no posts on this forum and all details about your company and web site hidden. Seriously - you think anyone WOULDN'T think it's a scam? Totally see your point, mate. I wouldn't trust my money to someone I don't know. Hence, this post and this whole discussion. You can see the company details here: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.ukCompany No. 09228951 Or here: https://www.duedil.com/company/09228951/e-coin-trading-limitedOr here: http://companycheck.co.uk/company/09228951/E-COIN-TRADING-LIMITEDWill be happy to PM more details to you and would appreciate if you could check them and post in this forum once all your questions have been answered. To have such a card we can be dealing with Visa directly or with an official Visa card issuer. The latter is the case for us. You are absolutely right in that neither would deal with a random internet scammer, so the actual fact that the card is being issued and shipped is proof of the opposite. May I suggest that you give it a try? It is only $1 during beta stage, and not free only for the reason that people don't treat free stuff seriously. Also, would be happy to meet you at http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/ later this month. Hope I've addressed your concerns best as I could |
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January 07, 2015, 09:25:40 PM |
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There are no details anywhere. Details you should have are the company name and full registration details. The fully verifiable names of the company owners and the historical contact address details of the company. To have such a card you must be dealing with VISA and VISA will not allow some random anonymous internet scammer to deal with them. They will require such details also. You expect people to give you BTC with a zero trust rating, no posts on this forum and all details about your company and web site hidden. Seriously - you think anyone WOULDN'T think it's a scam? Totally see your point, mate. I wouldn't trust my money to someone I don't know. Hence, this post and this whole discussion. You can see the company details here: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.ukCompany No. 09228951 Or here: https://www.duedil.com/company/09228951/e-coin-trading-limitedOr here: http://companycheck.co.uk/company/09228951/E-COIN-TRADING-LIMITEDWill be happy to PM more details to you and would appreciate if you could check them and post in this forum once all your questions have been answered. To have such a card we can be dealing with Visa directly or with an official Visa card issuer. The latter is the case for us. You are absolutely right in that neither would deal with a random internet scammer, so the actual fact that the card is being issued and shipped is proof of the opposite. May I suggest that you give it a try? It is only $1 during beta stage, and not free only for the reason that people don't treat free stuff seriously. Also, would be happy to meet you at http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/ later this month. Hope I've addressed your concerns best as I could Why you have not specified type of business? Why as financial institution you havent got any regulators numbers? What exchange allow you to load fiat in exchange for coins? Why you want to provide more info by PM? |
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January 07, 2015, 09:35:17 PM |
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22/09/2014- incorporated in this date. So took them only 3 months to tied up themselfs with visa, crypto exchange, and now advertising this here? not quite sure why you are so negative about our service. I look after technical side of the project and can address your concerns. re Visa: we don't deal with Visa directly, we work with card issuer bank (the name of the bank was given in previous posts) and card issuer deals with Visa re your previous FCA regulations question: as you probably know bitcoins are not regulated in UK (we are uk company) and we don't hold any client's accounts, so we don have to be FCA regulated re 3 moths and crypto exchange: whats wrong with that? for professional developer it should NOT take that long to integrate rest API in working infrastructure our team has a lot of experience developing FX trading platforms in investment banks (Barclays Capital, Morgan Stanley and BNP Praibas), 2 of our members are MBA Cass graduates so they know how to to do business please let us know if you have any concerns or questions |
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January 07, 2015, 09:46:49 PM |
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22/09/2014- incorporated in this date. So took them only 3 months to tied up themselfs with visa, crypto exchange, and now advertising this here? not quite sure why you are so negative about our service. I look after technical side of the project and can address your concerns. re Visa: we don't deal with Visa directly, we work with card issuer bank (the name of the bank was given in previous posts) and card issuer deals with Visa re your previous FCA regulations question: as you probably know bitcoins are not regulated in UK (we are uk company) and we don't hold any client's accounts, so we don have to be FCA regulated re 3 moths and crypto exchange: whats wrong with that? for professional developer it should NOT take that long to integrate rest API in working infrastructure our team has a lot of experience developing FX trading platforms in investment banks (Barclays Capital, Morgan Stanley and BNP Praibas), 2 of our members are MBA Cass graduates so they know to do business please let us know if you have any concerns or questions What a nonsense you trying to sell? I did asked clearly what exchange after you load coins to card will exchange that to fiat and load to card issued by you? BTC to card>>>BTC landing in exchange>>>Exchange selling for fiat>>>>>Exchange loading Fiat to bank(card issuer)>>>card can be used!!!How its even possible that any UK bank did give you thumbs up for dealing with crypto? Your team? Your website showing nothing more than just nice graphics and photoshoped card. You have no details filled in companys house, no history and no info about YOUR TEAM. As a financial institution you have to be regulated by FSA. dosnt matter if you have UK customers account or not. None of this nonsense add up. Post your team diploma, make a quick snap of your office, post landline phone number. do anything to validate your business. because for now 2 newbies trying pull fast one. 3 month period was given to show you that you joker as hell. Even your domain expires soon. why hiding who is data? |
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January 07, 2015, 10:32:53 PM
Last edit: January 07, 2015, 10:53:10 PM by gosha@e-coin |
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thank you for some support, it really helps - this forum is proving to be a tough place. Here is my linkedin profile, hope you find it credible, too: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgysokolov E-coin is not listed in the profiles yet for the simple reason that we would first have to prove ourselves in places like this. Will be glad to talk to you about escrow and other ways we could co-operate in, or simply just to earn some credibility from a trusted member of the community |
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