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Title: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 07:40:26 PM * Updated farmed account list being prepared..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0. *
Is account farming allowed? It has ruined this forum. There is clear evidence that account farming on a professional scale is, and has been taking place. The process of bringing accounts upto rank creates endless spam. Then when the accounts are sold, the new owner is likely to recoup his outlay by spamming for a sig campaign. An endless cycle of meaningless BS spam. (some of the new owners may want to do other things such as scam or sway argument, of course) These professional account farmers are very good at their job. You will not see the obvious if you will not look. They are the root cause of spam here. It is too late bbc.reporter listing 20 farmed accounts. There are 1000's. By the time they are added to someones list - the damage to the forum is done. Theymos must know what is happening. Global mods must know what is happening, and could act. Other mods/staff must know what is happening but cannot (directly) act. I do not have access to IP's. I cannot see (or know) if a member is banned. The member search doesn't even work. I found all this easy enough when looking into a list of 20 claimed spammers. Beside my user experience being ruined, I'm not that bothered. It is not my forum. I did think theymos might have been bothered for genuine members though. I may have got it all wrong? I'm bringing this (relevant half) quote over here as a starting point of my evidence. (sorry if i messed up your thread (OP) bbc.reporter. and sorry Mitchell, i was also guilty of not reading your post correctly. i understand the 0 post farmed accounts i mentioned are all banned, but bbc's list? and the other active accounts i have identified?) I will identify/post more farmed accounts here as necessary for proof. (unless farming is allowed and ok) I previously linked (some of) OP listed active accounts. There are many more "patterns" which are easily findable in these active farmed accounts. They are all bought up to status by posting once a fortnight. the minimum post to max potential? (you need to look at the first posts on the account. it may be sold now) Christmas day wont stop the system. (i know, why should it) But for fun(!) look at "stadus", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 Check his original posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919;sa=showPosts;start=180 He posted Nov 25, Dec 5/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/14/27 Now see "asidaman", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 (he joined 4 min 11 seconds later than stadus) Check his original posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926;sa=showPosts He posted Nov 25, Dec 6/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/15/28 This pattern runs right through OP target period *** Look at "efemen" (from OP list) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865 And compare with (all registered within 8 minutes) "Falmant" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868 "Gatotare" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872 "Hamaber" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 They posted on (from first posts remember) Dec 27, Jan 5/16/27, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Jan 6/17/29, Feb 10/23 Dec 27, Jan 7/18/30, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Feb 8/19/31, Feb 10/23 This pattern runs right through OP target period? *** keep in mind that the problem is also caused by the signature campaigns themselves. They usually are not putting up enough pressure on their participants regarding quality, or just don't care at all. Trouble is Lauda, the posts of these farmers are far superior to the posts of members like twa https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49360 They fool the mods, they fool the global mods, they fool theymos. Should Lutpin not be fooled? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Quickseller on August 25, 2016, 07:41:50 PM Yes, it is allowed.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 07:55:02 PM Yes, it is allowed. As I suspected! However there are other "rules and vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce" that could cover this situation? Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." (from the "somewhat complete, unofficial list" at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 I'm not looking for someone with 2 alts. This is different. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 25, 2016, 08:04:02 PM It's a shitty practice, but it's going to satutate the market eventually, and it's getting close already. Put a neg on all account buyers and sellers, that's my suggestion. Give em a little disincentive to do it. I totally agree with you, rizz.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 08:23:05 PM It's a shitty practice, but it's going to satutate the market eventually, and it's getting close already. Put a neg on all account buyers and sellers, that's my suggestion. Give em a little disincentive to do it. I totally agree with you, rizz. It is the wrong suggestion. I don't care for the trust system. Don't understand it, never used it. I just want to talk about bitcoin, and read about it. I cant anymore. These accounts are self sustaining. They post, they earn. The more they want to earn, the more accounts they need. The more spam there is, the less real members there are. Theymos should be the disincentive I think? (added, lets pretend Theymos and the mods/staff probably aren't running this farming business until we have a response) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 25, 2016, 08:58:10 PM I find this quite disturbing. Ok, so I'm only a newbie and my posts may not be particularly productive, but I'm a real person who types what comes into my head with no hidden agenda. I too am here to talk about Bitcoin, and read, and mostly learn. Crypto is my new obsession. Yet even in my short time here I have found it hard work filtering through all the pointless and spammy posts, and the trolls!! I know there are trolls everywhere but sometimes here it feels like I'm not even arguing with a real person! Trolls and arguments aside, when it feels like you're talking to a robot, there's just no point. It's a shame because all the fake posts obscure the really good stuff that genuine members come here for. And without genuine members and their contributions, any forum is worthless.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: unholycactus on August 25, 2016, 09:11:58 PM I find this quite disturbing. Ok, so I'm only a newbie and my posts may not be particularly productive, but I'm a real person who types what comes into my head with no hidden agenda. I too am here to talk about Bitcoin, and read, and mostly learn. Crypto is my new obsession. Yet even in my short time here I have found it hard work filtering through all the pointless and spammy posts, and the trolls!! I know there are trolls everywhere but sometimes here it feels like I'm not even arguing with a real person! Trolls and arguments aside, when it feels like you're talking to a robot, there's just no point. It's a shame because all the fake posts obscure the really good stuff that genuine members come here for. And without genuine members and their contributions, any forum is worthless. Depends on the board, some like gambling are almost exclusively spam, some are decent. If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 09:22:08 PM I find this quite disturbing. Ok, so I'm only a newbie and my posts may not be particularly productive, but I'm a real person who types what comes into my head with no hidden agenda. I too am here to talk about Bitcoin, and read, and mostly learn. Crypto is my new obsession. Yet even in my short time here I have found it hard work filtering through all the pointless and spammy posts, and the trolls!! I know there are trolls everywhere but sometimes here it feels like I'm not even arguing with a real person! Trolls and arguments aside, when it feels like you're talking to a robot, there's just no point. It's a shame because all the fake posts obscure the really good stuff that genuine members come here for. And without genuine members and their contributions, any forum is worthless. You are not a farmed account. The robots you speak to are actually farmed accounts. I had a quick look. You spoke quoted 1 a few days ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 Depends on the board, some like gambling are almost exclusively spam, some are decent. If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. Because they can get away with talking endless spam in gambling. (and speculation) Dannys list is great, (i don't use any blocker) but it is a sticking plaster against farmed accounts. And the difference between farmed and unfarmed spam is also relevant and differentiating. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 25, 2016, 09:30:05 PM Depends on the board, some like gambling are almost exclusively spam, some are decent. If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. Wow, that's impressive! Thanks for that. I'll hold off for now as I'm still finding out whose posts I want to see, but I've bookmarked that thread in case I need it later ;) You are not a farmed account. The robots you speak to are actually farmed accounts. I had a quick look. You spoke quoted 1 a few days ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 I see... so the key indicator is when their activity matches their post count? I noticed that happens sometimes and took a moment to figure out how it was possible, but at the time I put it down to coincidence. I know what to look for now, thanks! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 09:38:22 PM You are not a farmed account. The robots you speak to are actually farmed accounts. I had a quick look. You spoke quoted 1 a few days ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 I see... so the key indicator is when their activity matches their post count? I noticed that happens sometimes and took a moment to figure out how it was possible, but at the time I put it down to coincidence. I know what to look for now, thanks! It is not quite that simple. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 Gives a better, slightly confusing, methodology to finding them. I will try to publish clearer information here now I'm up to speed! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Quickseller on August 25, 2016, 11:15:08 PM Yes, it is allowed. As I suspected! However there are other "rules and vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce" that could cover this situation? Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." (from the "somewhat complete, unofficial list" at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 I'm not looking for someone with 2 alts. This is different. These accounts are self sustaining. They post, they earn. The more they want to earn, the more accounts they need. Yes, someone with a lot of accounts can make a decent amount of money just by posting in signature campaigns. If you assume that someone can make 0.001BTC per post (which I do not think is unrealistic, and is even maybe low), and over the long run, can make one post every 2 minutes (again, not unrealistic, but the post quality would not be very good), then someone can make roughly $18 per hour just by posting while participating in a signature campaign if they can find enough threads to reply to throughout the day. When you compare this to making $8-$9 per hour, flipping burgers at McDonalds posting large numbers of posts can be very appealing to a certain group of people. Theymos should be the disincentive I think? There are certain policies in place that make it harder on a certain type of spammers, primarily those who post links to spam, and those who use automation to create accounts with the intention of creating a single post (from each account) that is an advertisement. These policies generally give a little bit of value to accounts because higher level accounts due to relaxed posting requirements. The forum also explicitly allows for people to have as many accounts as they want because of things like freedom of speech. I agree that we have a problem with users making too much 'white noise' making it difficult to have a decent conversation about Bitcoin, however I am not sure how to fix this issue. Over the past couple of years, several solutions have been suggested, however if implemented, they would likely do much more harm then good. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 25, 2016, 11:54:02 PM I find this quite disturbing. The robots you speak to are actually farmed accounts. I had a quick look. You spoke quoted 1 a few days ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 (Palodar) See how near to my already quoted u=number this member you quoted is? (u=662306 above and u=662242 quoted below from bbc.report list. Again look at the users surrounding, say, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 from your list. (you have another only 38 regestrations away, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280) The next registered user, u=662243 has a 21/21 score (activity/post) and looks the same as your targets. The next registered user, u=662244 has 177/177, and looks the same as your targets. Then the next two are 0/0 (and looks the same as your targets, in idle) Followed by u=662247 having 74/74, and looks the same as your targets. They are probably the same owner. I have a list of all the active farmed accounts between 662280 (just above bbc.report list u=662242) and 662342 (past the farmed account you quoted in your conversation u=662306). It is not just post count=activity! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 Kellor *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662243 RustNan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662244 Fredomago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662247 Piladeer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280 Kaller *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662284 RastMan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662285 Frodomaga https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662288 Palider https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662294 Kalder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662295 RastoMan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662298 Flodemaga https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 Palodar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662310 Kolder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662312 Rastanan *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662316 Flademago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662318 Pamadar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662322 Koamder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662326 Rastadon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662329 Fademigo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330 Pamoldar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662337 Kolamider https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662342 Rostadom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662347 Fidimoga I have added their names, and spread them into category's. (so you don't have too) Can you see the pattern here? Check the first posts if you need further confirmation. Over 1500 spam posts here between 22 farmed accounts. (list covers nearly 4 hour time span) There are thousands more. *** bbc. spammer list added https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662347 Fidimoga (23) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 26, 2016, 12:29:37 AM Wow.... and oh my god... This thing is huge, isn't it?? It must take some work collating the data as you are, but once seen the patterns are unmistakable!
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 26, 2016, 11:10:31 AM Quote Now see "asidaman", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 (he joined 4 min 11 seconds later than stadus) Check his original posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926;sa=showPosts He posted Nov 25, Dec 6/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/15/28 This pattern runs right through OP target period (OP target period being approx 100,000 accounts) Lets have a better look. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664793 sadyas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664805 apriloni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664811 virusasog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664818 michkima https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664832 satdas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664837 asrilani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664839 virasisog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664845 miakama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664876 studas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664883 asdalani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664899 varusisog *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664909 misakama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 stadus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 asidamani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664935 vasrasus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664939 mistanama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664958 sildyas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664960 asriloni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664962 vurasasog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664965 mitkala https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664980 satmas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664985 asradoni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664989 vatusasid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664992 miayama Same kind of pattern here. (this list covers a two and a half hour registration time span) All happily posting away. Another 1900 meaningless spam posts from 24 farmed accounts. (I think there was barely 1 normal active user in in-betwen these accounts. The rest in-between accounts are inactive 0 post accounts) If an account farmer (or anyone) makes a large number of low value posts then they will likely get banned. A well established account will need to make a decent number of low value posts before they are in danger of getting banned. An account farmer could simply make generally interesting posts to get around violating this rule. An account farmer would need to put in a generally small amount of effort to not break this rule. Clearly the farmer knows this and does have a certain quality, albeit low. The same mundane sentences are rehashed infinitely. You know how hard it can be to build a case against 1 spammer. There are thousands of these farmed accounts. By the time someone campaign's to get 1 banned, there are probably 100's more. This is why it is up to Theymos to act against, or not. Nothing we can do. I'll just try to highlight the scale of the problem. I never realised before. If you assume that someone can make 0.001BTC per post (which I do not think is unrealistic, and is even maybe low), and over the long run, can make one post every 2 minutes (again, not unrealistic, but the post quality would not be very good), then someone can make roughly $18 per hour just by posting while participating in a signature campaign if they can find enough threads to reply to throughout the day. When you compare this to making $8-$9 per hour, flipping burgers at McDonalds posting large numbers of posts can be very appealing to a certain group of people. So, hire someone at $5 per hour, and keep $10 per hour in profit. Hire 10 people, keep $1000 per day profit. It must be happening? These accounts I am highlighting are most likely created by 1 or 2 or very few people. It is a unique and identifiable circumstance. It could easily be solved, independently of other multi-account or spam issues, as I think I have shown how easily they can be detected. There are certain policies in place that make it harder on a certain type of spammers, primarily those who post links to spam, and those who use automation to create accounts with the intention of creating a single post (from each account) that is an advertisement. These policies generally give a little bit of value to accounts because higher level accounts due to relaxed posting requirements. The forum also explicitly allows for people to have as many accounts as they want because of things like freedom of speech. I agree that we have a problem with users making too much 'white noise' making it difficult to have a decent conversation about Bitcoin, however I am not sure how to fix this issue. Over the past couple of years, several solutions have been suggested, however if implemented, they would likely do much more harm then good. There are certain vague rules that could be applied, but are not being. Makes me wonder, but for now, i,m pretending Theymos and the mods/staff probably aren't running this farming business, until I have a response. Someone is making big money out of this. I don't mind people making money, but such a massive degradation of this forum I do mind. When "real" new bitcoiners, like K~Ehlyr end up in conversation with these farmed accounts... well, read his thoughts above. I'm guessing new members like K~Ehlyr, and any non-members looking in, must think all bitcoiners are f**king retards! *** bbc. spammer list Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Omegasun on August 26, 2016, 11:19:17 AM i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not
totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: btvGainer on August 26, 2016, 12:08:11 PM Account farming should definitely be banned.But the question is we can not know whic account is created for farming purpose and which is genuine.Usually when people visit this forum and learn about signature campaigns,they want to join them and since due to their lower rank they get less paid,they want tp buy higher account or post lots of messages to increase their post counts
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 26, 2016, 12:11:23 PM i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case. (and btvGainer) The pattern here IS strong. You don't know how to analyse the information that I have provided. I would never connect you with OmegaStarScream in this way. I am not looking for prefix's in names. The above list is taken from a 2.5 hour period. Yourself and OSS joined 14 months apart. The above list is in time order of members joining bitcointalk and is clearly ordered - S -V - A - M -S - V - A - M -S - V - A - M - ...continue. The list above is taken from 200 consecutive members joining. 12% are active farmed accounts. (Almost all the other 88% accounts omitted from the list are inactive 0 post accounts. Probably mostly padding for the farmers cover) Take another look. I do not think Theymos would have a hard time recognising these cases. (and all the others) PS Omega. I am now be looking into your account. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 26, 2016, 01:30:03 PM There must be good money in it. Have you seen this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587559)? Offering to spend 10btc on a whole army of spammers...
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Omegasun on August 26, 2016, 02:15:36 PM i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case. (and btvGainer) The pattern here IS strong. You don't know how to analyse the information that I have provided. I would never connect you with OmegaStarScream in this way. I am not looking for prefix's in names. The above list is taken from a 2.5 hour period. Yourself and OSS joined 14 months apart. The above list is in time order of members joining bitcointalk and is clearly ordered - S -V - A - M -S - V - A - M -S - V - A - M - ...continue. The list above is taken from 200 consecutive members joining. 12% are active farmed accounts. (Almost all the other 88% accounts omitted from the list are inactive 0 post accounts. Probably mostly padding for the farmers cover) Take another look. I do not think Theymos would have a hard time recognising these cases. (and all the others) PS Omega. I am now be looking into your account. Thanks for being in your watchlist mate. My point is don't judge it by the name. But i agree with you that they are related because of the time they are created. You are lucky if theymos grant your wish because AFAIK there are no rules regarding this matter and i think the owner of the accounts is working so hard just to have a profit his accounts. And i think multiple registration on same IP will result to banned of the IP.. Btw gotta out here. Not my business. Im not a police. Bye!:) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: botany on August 27, 2016, 02:56:36 AM i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case. It is not just the pattern of name. It is the time of registration, number of times the pattern repeats and the post quality. Strong correlation, in my opinion. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 27, 2016, 10:31:54 AM This is bbc.reporters list of spammers. This list is why I stumbled into this account farming issue.
As I connect members from this list I shall mark them off. I am expecting a high success rate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639604 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658151 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658316 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661247 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661275 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662312 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663146 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664899 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665000 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666937 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668256 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668658 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668679 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 *** Connected in my lists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684514 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=695975 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 27, 2016, 11:08:41 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661247 Zaducis (132)***
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661254 macwika (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661268 sadasa (328) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661275 dumada (97) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661289 Zacudis (168) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661293 madwica (612) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661296 samasas (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661300 dumpida (187) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661309 Zicadis 24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661316 mandica (295) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661324 sanadas (256) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661329 dunfida (725) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661339 Zocadas (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661346 mastica 39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661352 samanas (63) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661356 danfoda (112) Another 3000 spam posts produced by these 16 farmed accounts. Sole purpose money making. (this list covers 1 hour 10 minutes) (i copy/paste all names into my lists) *** bbc. spammer list I have added post counts as of time originally posted. Very busily posting this lot! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 27, 2016, 11:54:31 AM I've got lucky so far. Really easy to identify these -A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D - patterns.
It is self proving. No need to look further. It will get harder! The farmer is clever, and does change thing around a bit. On my first list, all names started with a capital letter. That was the only upper case used, no numbers. On my second list, all names start lower case letter. No upper case used, no numbers. On my third list, names starting "Z" are upper case, names starting "d" "s" or "m" are lower case. No other upper case, no numbers. The farmer also changes the - A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D - repeat pattern. How about - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - alphabetical pattern. Lets see if anyone can grasp this alphabetical list. ("I" is also missing off other alphabetical list i have compiled, not yet published) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef (181) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 Beparanf (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669150 Cacapzarg (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669152 Dodnastes (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669156 Ekanenf (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669157 Fappanu (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669159 Gotomoon (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669161 Haruderty (136) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669163 Jukagid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669167 Ketariz (19) Another 450 meaningless spam posts from these 10 farmed accounts. This list represents 45 min time line. (and as i hope is clear, would contain probably 0 other real active users even if i published every account in that time span. the omitted accounts are probably 0 post inactive. probably padding for these "active" farmed accounts) *** bbc. spammer list I have added post count as of time originally posted. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 28, 2016, 11:45:16 AM Not so pretty that list above, is it?
Turns out that list is #4 of 4 alphabetical lists. (unless i have missed some more) If I put all four lists together, the pattern is clearer. I've numbered the lists 1, 2, 3, 4. 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667857 Atesed posts = 0 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668247 Apened 19 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668637 Appuned 20 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef *** 181 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667859 Bameras 26 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668249 Bemerand 251 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668640 Benarand 21 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 Beparanf 21 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667862 Cabdinsard 0 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668252 Cateinyard 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668647 Cabapzarf 21 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669150 Cacapzarg 17 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667863 Dobmader 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668256 Dobmaster *** 187 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651 Docnaster 285 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669152 Dodnastes 19 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865 Efemen *** 93 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668260 Egenen 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668654 Ejanend 18 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669156 Ekanenf 20 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868 Falmant 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668261 Famnant 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668658 Fanpant *** 157 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669157 Fappanu 21 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872 Gatotare 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668291 Gastotade 22 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668664 Gaswuwade 33 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669159 Gotomoon 20 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 Hamaber 19 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668293 Hanacerty 20 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668667 Hapucerty 20 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669161 Haruderty 136 1 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668294 Jiamaf 22 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668679 Juhagic *** 184 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669163 Jukagid 21 1 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668297 Kenarix 20 3 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669167 Ketariz 19 1 time span 30 minutes. 8 accounts, 200 spam posts. Nov 27 7.03am - 7.31am 2 time span 2 hours. 10 accounts, 600 spam posts. Nov 27 9.19pm - 11,16pm 3 time span 1 hour. 9 accounts, 750 spam posts. Nov 28 9.17am - 10.15am 4 time span 45 minutes. 10 accounts, 450 spam posts. Nov 29 1.25pm - 2.07pm (Looks to me like the farmer felt he rushed list 1, not enough padding. So spent longer on list 2 to allow real padding. List 3 was hurried along by farmed padding, Same, but faster again on list 4.) The above multi list includes two 0 post accounts, (on list 1) first time i have included 0 post accounts. See how most accounts are around 21 post count. Just systematically ranking up. bbc.reporters spam list hit the top post count on list 1 and 4, and the second post count on lists 2 and 3 (also third post count list 3) *** bbc.reporter list found 10% of related accounts. 90% are unnoticed. Not yet on Dannys ignore list. I have another A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D list which brings my 3 other published repeat lists together in the same way as here. That will take my total farmed member list well over 100, producing 8000 spam posts. Bit funny Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 28, 2016, 12:14:46 PM Well I for one am mega impressed by your work here and horrified at the extent of the disease. I hope somebody in power does take notice and act upon this.
I'm quite amazed at the cold mechanised process used by the farmer too. You can see that he just changes one or two letters to the next in the alphabet to create the next username from the previous one. It just helps make the patterns clearer once you've identified them. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Chris! on August 28, 2016, 12:33:17 PM I just read the whole thread. Wow. You've definitely stumbled across some huge account farming 'business' here. To show correlation maybe we should do a scatterplot along with your other evidence and PM it to Theymos.
So the Y access would be # of posts and the X access would be userid# within a certain range. Include all accounts within say a 1000 range and show on the graph the correlation between a hundred accounts or whatever it might be. Great work! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on August 28, 2016, 12:57:44 PM I dislike the spammers too, it makes reading topics so much more work.
They're usually smart enough to make ontopic posts, but the posts don't add anything. Two examples: "We need to wait and see.", "The business and companies will only use the strong one.". By stating the obvious, they are ontopic, the post is long enough not to count as spam, and it's unlikely their posts get deleted. Getting their account banned is even more unlikely. And because they don't really break any rules, they can keep going. Adjusting the rules to the level that "trivial posts aren't allowed" would give moderators a lot of work, and every action a moderator would take on this can be debated. That's not possible either. I often use the signature campaign someone uses as an indicator for his post quality. Based on the signature, I can skip posts instead of reading them. Use their own spam against them :D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 28, 2016, 01:14:47 PM K~Ehleyr, without the name connections, this would have been so much harder to "show" clearly.
That is pure luck for me. I didn't expect to find these patterns either. Clearly all my posts are about the work of 1 single entity farmer. Chris! thanks for looking. Great idea of yours I think. (can't quite get my head round it yet..) Is that something you could/would do? Anything that clearly illustrates this situation would be good. I will probably make one long list at some point, consolidate my multiple lists! Bear in mind I have very limited tools or access (or incentive) for this search. Inferior tools and access than mods, far inferior tools and access than global mods. Far, far inferior tools and access than Theymos. Still I found all this very quickly. Theymos must have known all I have published already. And what I will publish next. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: equator on August 28, 2016, 01:34:36 PM Account farming is in this forum from long time, it is due to that you can join in most of the signature campaign and then just troll the post by your own other alt accounts. Even their are some users who are in account farming for selling the accounts after they attain the high rank potential ranking so that they sell this accounts and earn bitcoins.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: ndnh on August 28, 2016, 02:57:19 PM I am sure theymos is well aware of the problem, so are the mods and staff of the forum, but how do they prevent this?
In fact, I think theymos is doing an impressive job in tacking these issues wherever possible. The forum has measures like 'units of evil', a good trust feedback system; along with a strong moderation system which gets significantly better in the new forum. The community + moderators find and remove spam and off-topic content, and ban members who are found abusing or breaking rules and so establishes a check on these farmers' activities, but this is not exactly preventive beyond an extent. To disincentivize farming I see two choices: Restrict account trade to the maximum extent. Restrict signatures or signature campaigns. A lot disagree with both (reasons being potential ineffectiveness, personal interests and potential negative impacts), so it is unlikely there will be any significant changes to come. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Chris! on August 28, 2016, 03:54:56 PM K~Ehleyr, without the name connections, this would have been so much harder to "show" clearly. That is pure luck for me. I didn't expect to find these patterns either. Clearly all my posts are about the work of 1 single entity farmer. Chris! thanks for looking. Great idea of yours I think. (can't quite get my head round it yet..) Is that something you could/would do? Anything that clearly illustrates this situation would be good. I will probably make one long list at some point, consolidate my multiple lists! Bear in mind I have very limited tools or access (or incentive) for this search. Inferior tools and access than mods, far inferior tools and access than global mods. Far, far inferior tools and access than Theymos. Still I found all this very quickly. Theymos must have known all I have published already. And what I will publish next. Hahaha it's a long story but no I can't :) (Not so) long story/off topic: we have a baby at home so all day our house is kind of askew. Before we go to bed my wife likes to have us both run around and clean stuff up. Well she was feeding the baby so I cleaned up. Anyways so to wrap this up quickly I forgot a giant cup of water on an end table. We each had a laptop on the floor. We have a cat. She's... I don't want to say awful (because if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all ;)). If she's thirsty her first instant is to go to a glass that we have somewhere and drink from it. It doesn't matter if it's on the counter, table, floor, ceiling whatever. If she can't get her head in the cup naturally she knocks it over because that's going to give her a tsp of water. Anyways, we have two ruined laptops now. Completely waterlogged. 1 hard drive might be ok but my laptop is 100% f***ed. I'm sure I could figure out how to make a graph on my BlackBerry but it would be utterly painful. Assuming I can get one of the laptops to work I'd gladly do this for the community! TL;DR version: Cat + Water + Laptop = no I can't do it sorry. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 28, 2016, 04:54:03 PM This list needs publishing. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663111 Zosuda (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663116 molsewid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663122 Bamselk (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663129 fasdorcas (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663136 Zadicar (860) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663142 Malsetid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663146 Bamsed (67) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663156 Fasdurcas (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663174 Zudalar (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663185 Mastsetad (1344) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663190 Blamsud (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663195 Farstdury (23) Time scale is 1 hour. 12 farmed accounts creating 2400 spam posts (post count in brackets) Mastsetad produced 1344 spam posts alone. *** bbc. reporter list. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Quickseller on August 28, 2016, 05:12:11 PM Same kind of pattern here. Okay, so it looks like the pattern that you found is that someone picks a word or a name, then creates a bunch of accounts with various letters appended into the middle of the word. (this list covers a two and a half hour registration time span) All happily posting away. Another 1900 meaningless spam posts from 24 farmed accounts. (I think there was barely 1 normal active user in in-betwen these accounts. The rest in-between accounts are inactive 0 post accounts) I think it is reasonable to say that all of the accounts that use the same name were probably created by the same person. If two names were used to create accounts at roughly the same time, then these were probably also created by the same person. One very important point that I want to make is that someone having any number of accounts is not, in itself a bad thing. There is nothing inherently wrong with someone having, say 5 accounts, nor is there anything wrong with having 5,000 accounts, although the later is probably very rare. If you want to show if you want any action taken about this, is that these farmed accounts are negatively impacting the ability to discuss the subject matter of any given thread. Looking at the oldest posts of "sadyas" and related accounts' posts, it looks like that most of the posts are mostly one liners that most likely add very little to the discussion. If you can get one of these accounts banned, then the administration will also likely ban all of their alt accounts as well. Although I do not know how much effort these farmers put into hiding the fact that each of their accounts are controlled by the same person. If an account farmer (or anyone) makes a large number of low value posts then they will likely get banned. A well established account will need to make a decent number of low value posts before they are in danger of getting banned. An account farmer could simply make generally interesting posts to get around violating this rule. An account farmer would need to put in a generally small amount of effort to not break this rule. Clearly the farmer knows this and does have a certain quality, albeit low. The same mundane sentences are rehashed infinitely. You know how hard it can be to build a case against 1 spammer. There are thousands of these farmed accounts. By the time someone campaign's to get 1 banned, there are probably 100's more. This is why it is up to Theymos to act against, or not. Nothing we can do. I'll just try to highlight the scale of the problem. I never realised before. If you assume that someone can make 0.001BTC per post (which I do not think is unrealistic, and is even maybe low), and over the long run, can make one post every 2 minutes (again, not unrealistic, but the post quality would not be very good), then someone can make roughly $18 per hour just by posting while participating in a signature campaign if they can find enough threads to reply to throughout the day. When you compare this to making $8-$9 per hour, flipping burgers at McDonalds posting large numbers of posts can be very appealing to a certain group of people. So, hire someone at $5 per hour, and keep $10 per hour in profit. Hire 10 people, keep $1000 per day profit. It must be happening? These accounts I am highlighting are most likely created by 1 or 2 or very few people. It is a unique and identifiable circumstance. It could easily be solved, independently of other multi-account or spam issues, as I think I have shown how easily they can be detected. I have however wondered about people using bots with fairly decent amounts of AI to post. I know that people have used bots to post in the past, however the AI in these cases have been non-existent. There are certain vague rules that could be applied, but are not being. The rules are meant to be broad so that a new rule does not need to be created for every unique situation, however they should not be vague so that people do not know prior to the fact if they are breaking a rule or not. What rules would you propose implementing that would stop this kind of farming? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on August 28, 2016, 06:04:00 PM This list needs publishing. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663111 Zosuda (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663116 molsewid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663122 Bamselk (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663129 fasdorcas (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663136 Zadicar (860) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663142 Malsetid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663146 Bamsed (67) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663156 Fasdurcas (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663174 Zudalar (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663185 Mastsetad (1344) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663190 Blamsud (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663195 Farstdury (23) Time scale is 1 hour. 12 farmed accounts creating 2400 spam posts (post count in brackets) Mastsetad produced 1344 spam posts alone. *** bbc. reporter list. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Sontoloyo on August 29, 2016, 03:48:38 AM No problem. As long as your account does not create a problem with the post is certainly not a problem. but in 1 ip address, there will be limitations to create your account
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 29, 2016, 04:48:08 AM Nice detective work.
I love how after this list is posted, OmegaSun responds: Quote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 Kellor *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662243 RustNan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662244 Fredomago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662247 Piladeer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280 Kaller *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662284 RastMan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662285 Frodomaga https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662288 Palider https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662294 Kalder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662295 RastoMan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662298 Flodemaga https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 Palodar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662310 Kolder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662312 Rastanan *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662316 Flademago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662318 Pamadar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662322 Koamder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662326 Rastadon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662329 Fademigo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330 Pamoldar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662337 Kolamider https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662342 Rostadom i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case. Thanks for being in your watchlist mate. My point is don't judge it by the name. But i agree with you that they are related because of the time they are created. You are lucky if theymos grant your wish because AFAIK there are no rules regarding this matter and i think the owner of the accounts is working so hard just to have a profit his accounts. And i think multiple registration on same IP will result to banned of the IP.. Btw gotta out here. Not my business. Im not a police. Bye!:) Then the next day Joel links him to account from list...lol Found this shit poster.Had to find his Alt's. User grim007 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553970) has this address on his bitcointalk profile : Code: 3ELuzanbCPDoFPRvjpjiFwCATb62QzRwo9 Archive Link (http://web.archive.org/web/20160827054118/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553970) The following address is used by multiple members for signature campaign entries.Here they're :- 1.Palodar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg15966890#msg15966890 2.PhilPrime (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=859971) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571403.msg15855633#msg15855633 3.Omegasun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552820.msg15619177#msg15619177 Additionally,the user is cheating by breaking rule of ICONOMI signature campaign by participating with multiple accounts.Reported to yahoo! Archive of all the 3 links below http://web.archive.org/web/20160827054813/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg15966890 http://web.archive.org/web/20160827054848/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571403.msg15855633 http://web.archive.org/web/20160827054915/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552820.msg15619177 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 12:21:14 PM Good work TwitchySeal and Joel_Jantsen.
Omegasun is only 4 members away from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 on bbc.reporter list! If you can get one of these accounts banned, then the administration will also likely ban all of their alt accounts as well. Although I do not know how much effort these farmers put into hiding the fact that each of their accounts are controlled by the same person. As I am showing, the farmer here did not put in much effort to hide this. Hence Theymos already knows. I am clicking through a target range of 100,000 members + here. One by one. Theymos could just scroll down the member list and see all this in 5 minutes. If an account farmer (or anyone) makes a large number of low value posts then they will likely get banned. Are you sure that there are in fact "hundreds" of people farming large numbers of accounts? What rules would you propose implementing that would stop this kind of farming? This cannot be fought case by case. All farmed posts are of NO value. They only have one purpose - build post count. Theymos can decide, he can see this and the bigger picture clearly. Or he could at least communicate his take. (i have always said that 1 or 2 farmers have created all accounts in question here!) I am sure theymos is well aware of the problem, so are the mods and staff of the forum, but how do they prevent this? In fact, I think theymos is doing an impressive job in tacking these issues wherever possible. Could you link me to some impressiveness please. I've had no input here. The accounts in question are around 10 months old. No sign of any impressive action yet. Theymos could have done all my detecting work in 5 minutes, with his tools. 10 month old accounts. 5 minutes work. The community + moderators find and remove spam and off-topic content, and ban members who are found abusing or breaking rules To disincentivize farming I see two choices: Restrict account trade to the maximum extent. Restrict signatures or signature campaigns. Yes, inconsistently, slowly, one by one. Mods said copy/paste is zero tolerance. But even my copy/paste reports go ignored. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0 Banning a member here and a member there for low quality posting is futile when 100's of accounts are openly being farmed. The more low quality there is, the harder it is to justify banning each individual account, The next account is just as bad? I'm sure there are other choices here. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 29, 2016, 12:37:16 PM Account farming may be less appealing if the settings of their favourite boards were modified to not increment post counts. For example, I don't see why posts in the Off-Topic board should count towards member post counts. Marketplace and Speculation could also be considered.
That would mean there would no longer be any point in account farmers posting in those boards. Yes, many would simply post in other boards instead but they would have to try harder to stay on-topic and constructive in the other boards, and if they didn't their spam posts would be more likely moderated and deleted as they appeared. Of course it would also make it harder for genuine members to rank up their accounts, but to genuine members it's the participation and information that counts more than a fast progression through the ranks, and they would have to make better quality posts to achieve that too. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 29, 2016, 12:51:17 PM Is it possible for mods to nuke entire threads?
If a users post is deleted, does their post count get reduced? ^^If yes and yes then: Why not start nuking the biggest most obvious sig spam threads to discourage meaningless posts, even the ones that are 2 complete sentences. This one has over 3,000 replies: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091704.0) I bet it would set a few farmers back quite a bit if you just nuked the 5 most obvious farm threads in gambling section. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on August 29, 2016, 12:57:45 PM This one has over 3,000 replies: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091704.0) I bet it would set a few farmers back quite a bit if you just nuked the 5 most obvious farm threads in gambling section. [not linking them but I'm sure you can find it in first 10 pages] ->What if i give you 10 bitcoins ? ->How to teach my dog about bitcoins? ->Bitcoin and aliens ? ->Can I buy respect with bitcoins? ^^not exactly the same but pretty much its the same thing.Gambling section is way off,let's not even talk about it.Mods hate it so much that they don't prefer bothering about that section anymore. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 01:08:10 PM I stopped looking when I got down to "A" on my posted alphabet lists.
But, while checking https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128 from bbc. list,my mistake became apparent. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669117 Kepariy (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669119 Lavavest (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669122 Mulzatas (85) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669123 Nadicona (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669124 Pasutinmeur (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128 Ruhtilg (89) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669131 Sidtamfia (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669134 Tafbiat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669137 Vixmore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669140 Washika (303) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669141 Xavofat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669142 Yauthitdar (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669143 Zivdafast (21) The very next member was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef ***, from alphabet list #4. (and bbc. list) Time scale 1 hour 5 min. 660 spam posts. (of note https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669132 sellavator (40)) So I checked the other 3 alphabet lists back from "A". 1 and 2 drew nothing. list 3 was as follows, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668587 Mukyasa (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668589 Nabicoma (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668601 Pasttimeuftor (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668603 Qastessa (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668607 Rugtilf (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668610 Sictalfia (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668615 Tadblt (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668616 Vivlore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668618 Wargika (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668622 Xapodat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668633 Yaupgitda (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668636 Zitdadast (301) The very next member was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668637 Appuned (20) from alphabet list #3 Time scale 1.5 hours. 520 spam posts. This is exactly what Problems I have that Theymos would not have. If I don't manually click, I don't get to see. No way am I going to click 100,000 members, just to cover the bbc. list! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 01:24:57 PM Is it possible for mods to nuke entire threads? If a users post is deleted, does their post count get reduced? ^^If yes and yes then: Why not start nuking the biggest most obvious sig spam threads to discourage meaningless posts, even the ones that are 2 complete sentences. This one has over 3,000 replies: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091704.0) I bet it would set a few farmers back quite a bit if you just nuked the 5 most obvious farm threads in gambling section. Yes and Yes. Different issue I feel. Why not tackle farmers head on. All farmed posts by their very nature are worthless. If these accounts were removed other actions, such as you suggest, might then have a value. If I have linked all these accounts as farmed, how can anyone say any has value. Who would want to talk to a farmed account if they knew? Only other farmed accounts. If Theymos banned all accounts shown here, by declaring them worthless spam maybe, that would send out a clear message. He clearly does not want to send that message, yet. but to genuine members it's the participation and information that counts more than a fast progression through the ranks, and they would have to make better quality posts to achieve that too. Exactly. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 02:51:19 PM For the more advanced let me try this list on you, involving potato power from bbc. list. (this is the oldest accounts on bbc. list. pre names pattern.) Note the generally higher post counts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552965 cobblelyf (39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552967 pianomasta (36) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552970 greatr (282) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552972 useless4 (280) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552974 ontrackk (243) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552978 funbarrel (297) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 potatopower (176) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552985 purebitco (250) 8 random names, so no clues there. Back to how I start (and continue) verifying. Posting schedule. Let's look at their first 12 posts. (all rehashed meaningless content, if you wish to verify further take a read) cobblelyf (39) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 pianomasta (36) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 greatr (282) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 useless4 (280) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 ontrackk (243) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 funbarrel (297) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 potatopower (176) *** Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 purebitco (250) Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 Farmed? Conclusive. Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. ***bbc. spam list Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 03:11:50 PM So, the other early bbc. listing, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553230 frostice (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553232 airsounds (165) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553235 fireball4 (166) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553238 oceanriver (140) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp (175) *** frostice (16) Sep 8,25 Oct 23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 airsounds (165) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 fireball4 (166) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23, Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 oceanriver (140) Sep 8, Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 angryswamp (175) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 They start very slightly different but... and Nov 20! Time scale 30 minutes. 5 farmed accounts, 600 spam posts. *** bbc, spam list Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 09:18:36 PM Summary of listed profiles. Helpful to see time scale and how the account farmer worked.
(last updated 3 Sept) September 07, 2015, 06:55:21 PM - September 07, 2015, 07:49:26 PM Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552965 cobblelyf (39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552967 pianomasta (36) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552970 greatr (282) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552972 useless4 (280) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552974 ontrackk (243) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552978 funbarrel (297) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 potatopower (176) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552985 purebitco (250) September 08, 2015, 07:43:36 PM - September 08, 2015, 08:15:12 PM Time scale 30 minutes. 5 farmed accounts, 600 spam post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553230 frostice (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553232 airsounds (165) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553235 fireball4 (166) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553238 oceanriver (140) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp (175) *** Then 10 weeks (unsearched period) later, all these were produced in 1 week November 22, 2015, 08:04:34 AM - November 22, 2015, 09:10:55 AM Time scale 1 hour 10 min. 16 farmed accounts,3000 spam posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661247 Zaducis (132)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661254 macwika (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661268 sadasa (328) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661275 dumada (97) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661289 Zacudis (168) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661293 madwica (612) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661296 samasas (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661300 dumpida (187) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661309 Zicadis 24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661316 mandica (295) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661324 sanadas (256) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661329 dunfida (725) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661339 Zocadas (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661346 mastica 39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661352 samanas (63) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661356 danfoda (112) November 23, 2015, 08:40:28 AM - November 23, 2015, 12:30:20 PM Time scale 4 hours. 29 farmed accounts, 2500 spam posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 Kellor (193)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662243 RustNan (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662244 Fredomago (220) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662247 Piladeer (100) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280 Kaller (100)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662284 RastMan (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662285 Frodomaga (219) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662288 Palider (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662294 Kalder (168) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662295 RastoMan (296) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662298 Flodemaga (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 Palodar (122) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662310 Kolder 122) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662312 Rastanan (143)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662316 Flademago (126) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662318 Pamadar (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662322 Koamder (248) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662326 Rastadon (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662329 Fademigo (180) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330 Pamoldar (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662337 Kolamider (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662342 Rostadom (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662347 Fidimoga (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662350 BrockHunter (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662353 Vannterson (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662360 Gwerrahar (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662362 Antesth (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662363 Etaurith (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662367 Ocytrem (20) November 24, 2015, 09:09:15 AM - November 24, 2015, 10:12:52 AM Time scale 1 hour. 12 farmed accounts, 2400 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663111 Zosuda (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663116 molsewid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663122 Bamselk (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663129 fasdorcas (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663136 Zadicar (860) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663142 Malsetid (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663146 Bamsed (67) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663156 Fasdurcas (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663174 Zudalar (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663185 Mastsetad (1344) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663190 Blamsud (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663195 Farstdury (23) November 25, 2015, 07:53:48 AM - November 25, 2015, 10:25:22 AM Tme scale 2 hours 35 minutes. 24 farmed accounts, 1900 spam posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664793 sadyas (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664805 apriloni (45) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664811 virusasog (92) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664818 michkima (28) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664832 satdas (122) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664837 asrilani (206) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664839 virasisog (129) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664845 miakama (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664876 studas (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664883 asdalani (241) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664899 varusisog (74)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664909 misakama (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 stadus (210) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 asidamani (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664935 vasrasus (48) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664939 mistanama (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664958 sildyas (27) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664960 asriloni (340) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664962 vurasasog (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664965 mitkala (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664980 satmas (47) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664985 asradoni (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664989 vatusasid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664992 miayama (125) November 25, 2015, 02:13:37 PM - November 25, 2015, 03:47:54 PM Time scale 1.5 hours. 22 farmed accounts, 2550 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665297 Anemed (41) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665301 Blerand (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665309 Casdinyard (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665315 Doamader (1171) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665321 Emitdama (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665325 Fesatmas (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665342 Gasturcas (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665356 Hutalar (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665361 Jastetad (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665367 Kalamsid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665374 Lumada (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665383 Murtiya (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665385 Narosya (271) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665388 Pirator (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665407 Qatuca (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665411 Raswild (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665420 Tatalk (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665427 Viscore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665433 Wandika (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665437 Xanidas (775) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665441 Yaunfitda (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665445 Ziscadas (20) November 26, 2015, 11:12:52 AM - November 26, 2015, 12:16:51 PM Time scale 1 hour. 12 farmed accounts, 290 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666857 Paritor (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666865 Qartada (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666870 Rudsild (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666874 Siatald (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666894 Visdome (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666897 Waticta (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666902 Xiadas (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666918 Yatsida (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666933 Zistmine (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666937 NorthPixel (72)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666959 NanoPipe (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666967 LandOwner (21) November 27, 2015, 08:03:32 AM - November 27, 2015, 08:31:43 AM Time scale 30 minutes. 8 farmed accounts, 200 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667857 Atesed (0) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667859 Bameras (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667862 Cabdinsard (0) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667863 Dobmader (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865 Efemen (93)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868 Falmant (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872 Gatotare (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 Hamaber (19) November 27, 2015, 10:19:06 PM - November 28, 2015, 12:16:50 AM Time scale 2 hours. 10 farmed accounts, 600 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668247 Apened (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668249 Bemerand (251) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668252 Cateinyard (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668256 Dobmaster (187)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668260 Egenen (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668261 Famnant (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668291 Gastotade (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668293 Hanacerty (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668294 Jiamaf (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668297 Kenarix (20) November 28, 2015, 08:46:50 AM - November 28, 2015, 11:15:25 AM Time scale 2 hours 30 min. 21 farmed accounts, 1350 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668587 Mukyasa (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668589 Nabicoma (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668601 Pasttimeuftor (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668603 Qastessa (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668607 Rugtilf (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668610 Sictalfia (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668615 Tadblt (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668616 Vivlore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668618 Wargika (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668622 Xapodat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668633 Yaupgitda (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668636 Zitdadast (301) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668637 Appuned (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668640 Benarand (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668647 Cabapzarf (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651 Docnaster (285) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668654 Ejanend (18) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668658 Fanpant (157)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668664 Gaswuwade (33) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668667 Hapucerty (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668679 Juhagic (184)*** November 29, 2015, 12:17:14 PM - 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December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM timescale 2.5 hours. 13 farmed accounts, 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 29, 2016, 09:26:24 PM wow that is nuts
If theymos doesn't respond it shouldnt be too hard to figure out a way to generate list with user # + username. I mean for someone else though. I have no clue how to do that. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 09:53:33 PM wow that is nuts If theymos doesn't respond it shouldnt be too hard to figure out a way to generate list with user # + username. I mean for someone else though. I have no clue how to do that. DannyHamilton maybe? :D However, in light of this evidence I feel Theymos must respond now. (he knew all this already, unless i'm cleverer than him? i got no tools) I feel this is game changing. My list covers (not properly) just 9 days. What about all the days I have not seen yet. Btw, while compiling my lists, I came across only a handful of real and still active members. I do not want to partake in a forum full of mass farmed accounts. Something could easily be done here. Someone needs to get a grip. If theymos had shown this and banned all for spamming, no one would have batted an eyelid, probably. This can only get worse if it is not stopped. The mods have lost control. Unless they are the farmer? (no rizz, stop it...) Why do I get the feeling Theymos would rather farmed accounts here than me, or other real members? ??? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 29, 2016, 09:58:47 PM I could have a go at the scatter graph Chris! suggested. I won't be able to start work on it for a couple of days but I'm fairly proficient at creating graphs and charts using MS Excel, if nobody has done this already.
If you'd like me to do that rizzlarolla, do you have a complete list you could share with me to save me piecing your posts together? No probs if not. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 10:13:26 PM I could have a go at the scatter graph Chris! suggested. I won't be able to start work on it for a couple of days but I'm fairly proficient at creating graphs and charts using MS Excel, if nobody has done this already. If you'd like me to do that rizzlarolla, do you have a complete list you could share with me to save me piecing your posts together? No probs if not. Ok cool. Not sure how you'll get it to work, maybe just 1 week, the main attack? Anyway, Good luck! :D I got nothing but what you see here, and a pile of scrap paper on the floor! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: gentlemand on August 29, 2016, 10:16:15 PM Where on Earth do people find the time to post this avalanche of rubbish? Even if you're copy and pasting it still requires some sentience. My mind is boggled.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 29, 2016, 10:17:50 PM I could have a go at the scatter graph Chris! suggested. I won't be able to start work on it for a couple of days but I'm fairly proficient at creating graphs and charts using MS Excel, if nobody has done this already. If you'd like me to do that rizzlarolla, do you have a complete list you could share with me to save me piecing your posts together? No probs if not. How long would it take to do all 700k or however many there is user #s? Or is that too big for excel? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 10:22:38 PM Where on Earth do people find the time to post this avalanche of rubbish? Even if you're copy and pasting it still requires some sentience. My mind is boggled. I got all the time in the world... wait, you mean the farmed accounts... not me? ;) lol, your mind is boggled!!! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: gentlemand on August 29, 2016, 10:24:03 PM I got all the time in the world... wait, you mean the farmed accounts... not me? ;) lol, your mind is boggled!!! Them, not yourself. I respect your time expended. Now I think about the amount of time you might have devoted to it, have some extra boggle on top. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 10:25:26 PM I could have a go at the scatter graph Chris! suggested. I won't be able to start work on it for a couple of days but I'm fairly proficient at creating graphs and charts using MS Excel, if nobody has done this already. If you'd like me to do that rizzlarolla, do you have a complete list you could share with me to save me piecing your posts together? No probs if not. How long would it take to do all 700k or however many there is user #s? Or is that too big for excel? You need a lot of input to identify these accounts. Input we are not easily, or at all, privvy to Theymos could. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 29, 2016, 10:26:21 PM At BTC.0004 per post they are making BTC1 for every 2500 posts.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on August 29, 2016, 10:37:46 PM How long would it take to do all 700k or however many there is user #s? Or is that too big for excel? Excel could probably handle it but it would take me a long time to key the values in :P I'll start by collating the data from this thread and any updates to it, and take it from there. Ok cool. Not sure how you'll get it to work, maybe just 1 week, the main attack? Anyway, Good luck! :D I got nothing but what you see here, and a pile of scrap paper on the floor! Cool, I enjoy playing with Excel ;D. I should be able to make a good hole in it on Wednesday. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 29, 2016, 10:52:03 PM At BTC.0004 per post they are making BTC1 for every 2500 posts. A lot in my lists are only quietly ranking up. No sig. Not even on Danny's list. Then they are ripe for sale, or holding for sig spamming farms. This is playing the long game. These are 10 month old accounts. There must be other farmed accounts before, and certainly since? I can't find them. That for me is like looking for the next block. impossible. But theymos could look. And must have already looked. (I don't have Theymos's tools at my disposal ???) I hope SMAS will start looking at this. (he says doubtfully) These accounts are stealing real peoples opportunities of enrolling in sig campaigns, and destroying real discussion in the process. Maybe the campaign managers like it like this for some reason? (stop it rizz...) I find it hard to believe Theymos and the mods and the sig managers would let the farmer waltz in and take all the bitcoin unchallenged! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 29, 2016, 11:19:12 PM wow that is nuts If theymos doesn't respond it shouldnt be too hard to figure out a way to generate list with user # + username. I mean for someone else though. I have no clue how to do that. DannyHamilton maybe? :D However, in light of this evidence I feel Theymos must respond now. (he knew all this already, unless i'm cleverer than him? i got no tools) I feel this is game changing. My list covers (not properly) just 9 days. What about all the days I have not seen yet. Btw, while compiling my lists, I came across only a handful of real and still active members. I do not want to partake in a forum full of mass farmed accounts. Something could easily be done here. Someone needs to get a grip. If theymos had shown this and banned all for spamming, no one would have batted an eyelid, probably. This can only get worse if it is not stopped. The mods have lost control. Unless they are the farmer? (no rizz, stop it...) Why do I get the feeling Theymos would rather farmed accounts here than me, or other real members? ??? I guess you could use the list and un-ignore users as needed, but that would be a pain in the ass methinks. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 30, 2016, 04:05:08 AM I think I figured out a pretty efficient way to do this with import.io
I programmed an "extractor" to get username, post count, registered date and last active. Should have 8,000 users with the last one u=264049 in another 10-15 minutes. (Takes about 4 min per 1,000 ) I just randomly picked that range of users, let me know of any requests. Edit: All done, here you go: u=252562 - u=264049 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_29U_0FgoanvIgwAVVdfEfhc9dbqjz-2yTBjf63Vuqw/edit?usp=sharing) Little faster this way I think :) https://i.gyazo.com/75f651922d6f69342fdf4e0999b8c725.png Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 30, 2016, 04:27:59 PM Hey Twitchy, any time that fills the gaps between my posts! I've only seen a couple hours per day - the duration of each post. There could be a lot in-between, or not. May as well fill gaps first. So anything 660000 - 670000. Just found a new list. This is the first list I have found with no bbc. spammer list starting point. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665297 Anemed (41) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665301 Blerand (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665309 Casdinyard (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665315 Doamader (1171) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665321 Emitdama (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665325 Fesatmas (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665342 Gasturcas (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665356 Hutalar (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665361 Jastetad (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665367 Kalamsid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665374 Lumada (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665383 Murtiya (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665385 Narosya (271) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665388 Pirator (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665407 Qatuca (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665411 Raswild (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665420 Tatalk (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665427 Viscore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665433 Wandika (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665437 Xanidas (775) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665441 Yaunfitda (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665445 Ziscadas (20) Time scale 1.5 hours. 2550 spam posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 30, 2016, 05:57:32 PM A slightly different list again here. Alphabet list turns random list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666857 Paritor (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666865 Qartada (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666870 Rudsild (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666874 Siatald (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666894 Visdome (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666897 Waticta (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666902 Xiadas (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666918 Yatsida (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666933 Zistmine (21) Then, after 3 moe inactive/padding members joined, Northpixel from bbc. spammer list and a few others. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666937 NorthPixel (72)*** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666959 NanoPipe (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666967 LandOwner (21) So the farmer dropped this alphabet list at "Z" and carried on randomly. So he can be a bit random? Maybe these are unrelated? Back to basics. Lets check the farmers post schedule here, see if the two "bits" tally. Waticta Nov 26 Dec 6,17,29 Jan 10,23 Feb 5,18 Mar 2,26 Apr 8,17 May 1,14,28 Xiadas Nov 26 Dec 7,18,30 Jan 11,25 Feb 6,19 Mar 1,17 Apr 8,16,30 May 13,27 Yatsida Nov 26 Dec 8,31 Jan 25 Feb 6,19 Mar 1,17 Apr 8,16,30 May 13,27 Zistmine Nov 26 Dec 5,16,27 Jan 9,22 Feb 4,17 Mar 2,26 Apr 8,17, May 1,14,28 NorthPixel Nov 26 Dec 6,17,29 Jan 10,23 Feb 5,18 Mar 10,27 Apr 4,24,30 May 11,26 NanoPipe Nov 26 Dec 7,18,30 Jan 9,22 Feb 4,17 Mar 2,26 Apr 8,17 May 1,14,28 LandOwner Nov 26 Dec 8,19,31 Jan 10,23 Feb 5,18 Mar 1,17 Apr 8,16,30 May 13,27 Conclusive. (i've seen this elsewhere also) Time scale 1 hour 5 minutes. 290 spam posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 30, 2016, 06:43:18 PM If theymos doesn't respond it shouldnt be too hard to figure out a way to generate list with user # + username. I mean for someone else though. I have no clue how to do that. DannyHamilton maybe? :D I have a problem with Danny Hamilton's list, because I'm on it (lol). I think it's too inclusive because it doesn't discriminate other than to exclude people with signatures, and not all people with sigs are spammers. Now now, your not reading correctly! I was suggesting Danny was the ideal man to make a NEW Farmer list! (that you would not be on, i presume) Look at that thread which we replied in "Re: Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582500.msg16089913#msg16089913 At least 8 farmed accounts all pretending to be different people. And swaying argument with their numbers! (got a few more names there which i will look into! no not you or gentlemand!) If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. Dannys list is great, (i don't use any blocker) but it is a sticking plaster against farmed accounts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. And the difference between farmed and unfarmed spam is also relevant and differentiating A new list that does not care about sig campaigners, it only cares about farmed accounts. (they may or may not have a sig) I hope SMAS will start looking at this. (he says doubtfully) These accounts are stealing real peoples opportunities of enrolling in sig campaigns, and destroying real discussion in the process. Maybe the campaign managers like it like this for some reason? (stop it rizz...) I find it hard to believe Theymos and the mods and the sig managers would let the farmer waltz in and take all the bitcoin unchallenged! This farmer is nicking a lot of the sig money, meaning real people can't earn sig money? The farmer also sells and scams. He is being allowed to feed here. With Theymos's blessing. I hope you understand my view better now. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 30, 2016, 06:49:19 PM If theymos doesn't respond it shouldnt be too hard to figure out a way to generate list with user # + username. I mean for someone else though. I have no clue how to do that. DannyHamilton maybe? :D I have a problem with Danny Hamilton's list, because I'm on it (lol). I think it's too inclusive because it doesn't discriminate other than to exclude people with signatures, and not all people with sigs are spammers. Now now, your not reading correctly! I was suggesting Danny was the ideal man to make a NEW Farmer list! (that you would not be on, i presume) Look at that thread which we replied in "Re: Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582500.msg16089913#msg16089913 At least 8 farmed accounts all pretending to be different people. And swaying argument with their numbers! (got a few more names there which i will look into! no not you or gentlemand!) If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. Dannys list is great, (i don't use any blocker) but it is a sticking plaster against farmed accounts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. And the difference between farmed and unfarmed spam is also relevant and differentiating A new list that does not care about sig campaigners, it only cares about farmed accounts. (they may or may not have a sig) I hope SMAS will start looking at this. (he says doubtfully) These accounts are stealing real peoples opportunities of enrolling in sig campaigns, and destroying real discussion in the process. Maybe the campaign managers like it like this for some reason? (stop it rizz...) I find it hard to believe Theymos and the mods and the sig managers would let the farmer waltz in and take all the bitcoin unchallenged! This farmer is nicking a lot of the sig money, meaning real people can't earn sig money? The farmer also sells and scams. He is being allowed to feed here. With Theymos's blessing. I hope you understand my view better now. Going to start tagging farmed accounts if it's ridiculously obvious that's what's going on. This shit drives me ape nuts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Mastsetad on August 31, 2016, 03:43:27 PM Are you guys talking about spamming or just account trading?
Because i found my account in there and my account is surely a bought one but i'm not a spammer, so i'm a little confused. ??? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: KenR on August 31, 2016, 03:57:09 PM Are you guys talking about spamming or just account trading? Maybe not.You don't have to be a spammer to be listed up there.The list is about the account farmer who most probabaly sold you the account.Could you be nice enough to tell us whom did you purchase the account from?Because i found my account in there and my account is surely a bought one but i'm not a spammer, so i'm a little confused. ??? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 31, 2016, 04:21:10 PM Are you guys talking about spamming or just account trading? Because i found my account in there and my account is surely a bought one but i'm not a spammer, so i'm a little confused. ??? https://media0.giphy.com/media/E3f3WMlG1D4gU/200.gif https://i.gyazo.com/7225a50ce1688918bbf6b9dff5399092.png I would like to join this campaign. Name: Jambolb2 Post count: 171 Rank: Full member Bitcoin address: 3JyCS37NHSBKgwkf3Uj8RiiphSWRWRdJWJ Profile UID: 639398 Investing on bitcoin doublers is not less than gambling, you may win profit or you may lose your money, but some of the doublers have such a design and look that attracts users to invest in them, and i think DoubleMB.com is one of them. :) Btc address: 3JyCS37NHSBKgwkf3Uj8RiiphSWRWRdJWJ https://i.gyazo.com/7ff04e79118863102dd775c6b985a9ad.png Jimbola3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399) #spamcity Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: KenR on August 31, 2016, 04:51:54 PM ---fly---- That does call for a negative ,no ? Let's bring this to attention of DT members and have the accounts tagged accordingly.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on August 31, 2016, 05:02:42 PM Posts Activity Registered Last Seen u=492171 JoeBriggs 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:13:03 PM July 07, 2015, 02:00:05 AM u=492172 HobbitMud 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:13:56 PM July 07, 2015, 02:30:05 AM u=492173 bombding 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:15:30 PM July 07, 2015, 03:00:26 AM u=492177 givedusty 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:20:29 PM July 07, 2015, 03:30:05 AM u=492178 jimpix 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:21:26 PM July 07, 2015, 04:00:05 AM u=492180 NeliFur 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:22:39 PM July 07, 2015, 04:30:06 AM Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Shiroslullaby on August 31, 2016, 05:07:06 PM Wouldn't the easiest way to weed out spammers be correlation of a single IP address to multiple accounts?
Is it a possibility that someone would go through the trouble of using a proxy/ tor etc for each account so none of them posted from the same address? The only way to end spam would be to dis-allow signature campaigns. I know that when I first joined a campaign I got a little excited and made some extra posts. For someone that really needs the money, they definitely have an incentive to hit the max posts every day. And for someone who has the skills to program a network of bot accounts and automate their posting, it might be worth the time if some of the figures posted in this thread are accurate. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 31, 2016, 05:31:14 PM ---fly---- That does call for a negative ,no ? Let's bring this to attention of DT members and have the accounts tagged accordingly.Thanks for your interest. But do you really think that DT members haven't noticed? My posting started a while ago now and has been top thread a few days. A bigger action is needed. Theymos already knows about all this. The mods already know about all this. They knew before I posted. Even now they still choose to ignore I find it very strange. Theymos and his mods allow the likes of Mastsetad and his hundreds of accounts to rank up, sell, and/or spam for sig, making many bitcoins, while ruining any chance of forum discussion. All the while saying they don't tollerate spam. I found all this info easily enough, by accident, without tools. (my list may only be a fraction of what is to come. Theymos already knows if it is or is not, but i do not, yet. my guess, it does continue) Something don't add up here. No one wants to know. I would NEVER want to interact with a mass farmed account on a social level. Who would? The correlation between my lists almost certainly show the same 1 farmer is responsible for producing thousands of meaningless posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: malmoghetto on August 31, 2016, 05:34:54 PM Wouldn't the easiest way to weed out spammers be correlation of a single IP address to multiple accounts? Is it a possibility that someone would go through the trouble of using a proxy/ tor etc for each account so none of them posted from the same address? The only way to end spam would be to dis-allow signature campaigns. I know that when I first joined a campaign I got a little excited and made some extra posts. For someone that really needs the money, they definitely have an incentive to hit the max posts every day. And for someone who has the skills to program a network of bot accounts and automate their posting, it might be worth the time if some of the figures posted in this thread are accurate. Disallow signature campaign is impossible, your signature campaign-yobit cocntributes a lot of posts=traffic to the forum. BTC forum is a business forum, ppl like making money here, if campaigns are banned here, the traffic to bct forum will significantly reduce. So banning is impossible. And you can see those guys who creates bunch of accounts, are aim to sell, most of them don't join the campaign if you check the above accounts. Their target is selling as many as possible to make profit, from OP's proofs. BTW, there are so many ico scammer who use old accounts, one explanation is the ico scammers creates accounts, or they purchased them from account sellers. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LeGaulois on August 31, 2016, 05:41:22 PM Personnaly I read Bitcointalk since long time (more than my registration date) and i rarely visit the english sections of this forum. (it's my first post in an english section BTW)
Too much useless posts. In a topic of 8 pages you may find 5-6 usefull posts, all the others are garbage. Using sig campaign, farming accounts, joining only to attack competition business, ect. It comes to a point where it is difficult to read/follow/to be motivated with a discussion topic I stick with my native language board. Many usefull guys and topics but sorry there are also in others places Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 31, 2016, 05:43:38 PM Wouldn't the easiest way to weed out spammers be correlation of a single IP address to multiple accounts? Is it a possibility that someone would go through the trouble of using a proxy/ tor etc for each account so none of them posted from the same address? The only way to end spam would be to dis-allow signature campaigns. I know that when I first joined a campaign I got a little excited and made some extra posts. For someone that really needs the money, they definitely have an incentive to hit the max posts every day. And for someone who has the skills to program a network of bot accounts and automate their posting, it might be worth the time if some of the figures posted in this thread are accurate. Disallow signature campaign is impossible, your signature campaign-yobit cocntributes a lot of posts=traffic to the forum. BTC forum is a business forum, ppl like making money here, if campaigns are banned here, the traffic to bct forum will significantly reduce. So banning is impossible. And you can see those guys who creates bunch of accounts, are aim to sell, most of them don't join the campaign if you check the above accounts. Their target is selling as many as possible to make profit, from OP's proofs. BTW, there are so many ico scammer who use old accounts, one explanation is the ico scammers creates accounts, or they purchased them from account sellers. There is no "their" in this case. you are personalising each account. It is only one farmer. The farmer appears to favour either sell or sig. He probably sells as many as he can, continuously, and joins any campaign he can with others. When those sig campaign accounts have done their work, ranking up further, they are more valuable to sell. If an account is not sold or enrolled, it is mothballed by posting only once a fortnight, until it is enrolled or sold. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 31, 2016, 06:12:34 PM Posts Activity Registered Last Seen u=492171 JoeBriggs 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:13:03 PM July 07, 2015, 02:00:05 AM u=492172 HobbitMud 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:13:56 PM July 07, 2015, 02:30:05 AM u=492173 bombding 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:15:30 PM July 07, 2015, 03:00:26 AM u=492177 givedusty 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:20:29 PM July 07, 2015, 03:30:05 AM u=492178 jimpix 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:21:26 PM July 07, 2015, 04:00:05 AM u=492180 NeliFur 110 110 March 24, 2015, 06:22:39 PM July 07, 2015, 04:30:06 AM So easy to find, even without proper tools, eh Twitchy. The earliest find yet. I'll take a look later. (although, seeing above is proof enough of farming. does he set an alarm? 30 minutes each account) Only question, is it the same farmer. The pattern will probably reveal all as it falls into place. 6 names is quite a normal early list I think. The farmer does appear to have started this thing slowly before really getting organised. Twitchy, after finding a list, do you think it is reasonable to conclude Theymos already knew this was happening. Could he have not noticed this? And it is probably still happening as your addys above even links a member somewhere in the u=720000? range. (and back to u=400000 range) New ground to cover. It would be a lot easier if Theymos just told us. Edit. still not looked, but i now see 2015? are they dormant? or maybe they were banned? we cannot know that, unless theymos tells us. Edit 2. sorry twitchy, does not make the "farmed" list. this guy only ever wrote 3 words per post in games and rounds, on all 6 accounts. He had an addiction, he got better. (or he got banned for spamming - we will never know) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on August 31, 2016, 11:01:25 PM In 6 days and with 180 or so accounts placed on my farmer list, only 1 "listed" farmed account has responded.
He was instantly shown as a multi account holder in a different way. Addy's. Addys that connect a proven farmed account, maybe sold maybe not, to other accounts of different periods. My lists cover a very limited period. The only other member here to say my lists are open to interpretation was Omegasun. I told him I was looking at his account. I'll explain why This is not yet an accusation, just an explanation why I am looking. Omegasun is u=639376. The bbc.spammer list includes u=639372, 4 places away. Jimbolb 2, connected to Mastsetad by addy is 22 members later. u=639398. (44 minutes later) 220 members later u=639604 is also on bbc. spammer list. (that was 5 hours later) There is "grouping" of STILL activie members enrolling around the same time. Including a few very familiar sounding names from later listed farmed accounts. Such as Kollor, piloder and freedomgo. There is a glut of red trust, 4 accounts in 100. Jambolb2 is followed by Jimbola3. Most all suspect accounts post once on Nov 8, then once 14 days later on Nov 22, as their first 2 posts. NextBillG is there. (sign of ambition? Maybe not involved?) Also in this group is Xeelee. German? different posting, not involved. Also Crypto ninja. A real person. (cant remember if they posted in months) If Twitchy could publish a spreadsheet of this time period that highlights all still active users, ie visited in the last month or two, you would see how it stands out. This burst of activity is surrounded by thousands of inactive accounts and the occasional real and still active user. The same pattern I have seen when compiling my lists. If Twitch can do that, that would be great. Then we can discuss. (and a similar highlighted s/s that shows 1 of my already listed periods to compare?) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on September 01, 2016, 07:41:24 AM Just adding something to the list for the record.The person probably has more accounts in control than we could ever imagine.Here is one of the quotes from his threads where he offers his account piloting service.My first step of action,approaching all the campaign managers which the accounts are a part of and having them perma banned from the campaign.Yahoo already tagged and removed the two accounts~
So i was thinking to build a pilot service i will not be the one who will pilot your account. You will be done to choose of to whom are you going to trust your account. On the other hand i will be doing the escrow service for the benefit also of your pilot at the same time i will be the one who will monitor it and sends you updates to your email so that you can take actions directly. How much will i be paying to my pilot? It is up to both of you but i suggest to do 50-50 or a 60-40 note: for everyone, Pilot service on account is my service especially with my Co worker in company.. we have 50/50 profit. so it's up to you now. you can check it in my IP. if we are same IP until now. Goodluck master Joel Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 01, 2016, 06:27:58 PM December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM 2.5 hours, 13 farmed accounts 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) No bbc.spammer list account. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on September 01, 2016, 09:55:38 PM November 8th info coming in a bit.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: morantis on September 02, 2016, 01:23:06 AM as far as i see it, if the accounts and the people are posting relevant info then it is not an issue. if a person is using multiple accounts or pushing one account at a time to a level and then selling, but doing so by posting relevant, good replies and OP's, then there is nothing that can or should be done.....therefore, the attack should be less targeted toward linking two accounts to one IP or one person or figuring out if a person is using multiple accounts and should strictly put the effort into combating outright spam....
at the same time, i think that any accusation of spamming should be looking at the entire body of work of an individual and not ever a single post. i, myself have been in a page by page, reply to reply conversation with another member on here and some of those replies may have been short and brought nothing to the overall thread as a whole, but was relevant to the previous reply and in the context of the overall thread as a continued conversation. I am sure that everyone here has at least one reply or post of "lol" or something like that and as a single post that looks bad, but looking at the overall lifespan of the member can be seen as something that rarely happens Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: lsqgoddess on September 02, 2016, 01:26:00 AM December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM 2.5 hours, 13 farmed accounts 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) No bbc.spammer list account. You are very genius, CDEF.... account. I just wonder have you worked in FBI or CIA? ;D BTW, what do you mean bbc.spammer list? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: DarkStar_ on September 02, 2016, 01:54:50 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) Pretty good chance Cantoner is an alt of knowhow, a guy who had a lot of BCT accounts and did a lot of account farming. He and all his alts got banned for spam, so the account "Cantoner" is probably banned too. No solid proof linking them, but they talk way too similarly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469369.msg14836153#msg14836153). The other alts might have been also farmed by him, and banned. Surprised how many farmed accounts there are. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: mk4 on September 02, 2016, 02:41:18 AM I think they don't mind account farmers. As long as their ads gets publicity I think it's fine.
In my opinion as long as they post relevant comments/posts it's fine as they're still helping us promote bitcoins. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on September 02, 2016, 06:37:25 AM I think they don't mind account farmers. As long as their ads gets publicity I think it's fine. All of your posts are relevant, but they're also all crap since you're making as many posts as possible from farmed accounts.In my opinion as long as they post relevant comments/posts it's fine as they're still helping us promote bitcoins. Look at all these "relevant" posts. https://i.gyazo.com/d8a199e384eec3364238a60809d75e5b.png It's all our old friends having a nice discussion. https://archive.is/jMTPQ Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: malmoghetto on September 02, 2016, 07:26:11 AM I think they don't mind account farmers. As long as their ads gets publicity I think it's fine. All of your posts are relevant, but they're also all crap since you're making as many posts as possible from farmed accounts.In my opinion as long as they post relevant comments/posts it's fine as they're still helping us promote bitcoins. Look at all these "relevant" posts. https://i.gyazo.com/d8a199e384eec3364238a60809d75e5b.png It's all our old friends having a nice discussion. https://archive.is/jMTPQ LOL, they are not easy because they typed a lot of 3-4 lines post with bullshits to make "quality posts" to fool signature campaign managers. But you know mods do not ban them, so it means that this kind of posting is allowed here. Maybe he(them) is from a poor country, so let's just forgive him(them), we can get karma if we tolerate them. Btw, yoshit sig is very annoying due to 20 posts per day rule. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Decoded on September 02, 2016, 09:43:47 AM I do think that account farming is already not allowed by the community. I've seen many an attempt to farm accounts and sell them, but to be able to successfully farm accounts, you will need to actually try to have good posts. If you're farming on like, 10 accounts, that's damn hard.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on September 02, 2016, 01:55:50 PM In 6 days and with 180 or so accounts placed on my farmer list, only 1 "listed" farmed account has responded. He was instantly shown as a multi account holder in a different way. Addy's. Addys that connect a proven farmed account, maybe sold maybe not, to other accounts of different periods. My lists cover a very limited period. The only other member here to say my lists are open to interpretation was Omegasun. I told him I was looking at his account. I'll explain why This is not yet an accusation, just an explanation why I am looking. Omegasun is u=639376. The bbc.spammer list includes u=639372, 4 places away. Jimbolb 2, connected to Mastsetad by addy is 22 members later. u=639398. (44 minutes later) 220 members later u=639604 is also on bbc. spammer list. (that was 5 hours later) There is "grouping" of STILL activie members enrolling around the same time. Including a few very familiar sounding names from later listed farmed accounts. Such as Kollor, piloder and freedomgo. There is a glut of red trust, 4 accounts in 100. Jambolb2 is followed by Jimbola3. Most all suspect accounts post once on Nov 8, then once 14 days later on Nov 22, as their first 2 posts. NextBillG is there. (sign of ambition? Maybe not involved?) Also in this group is Xeelee. German? different posting, not involved. Also Crypto ninja. A real person. (cant remember if they posted in months) If Twitchy could publish a spreadsheet of this time period that highlights all still active users, ie visited in the last month or two, you would see how it stands out. This burst of activity is surrounded by thousands of inactive accounts and the occasional real and still active user. The same pattern I have seen when compiling my lists. If Twitch can do that, that would be great. Then we can discuss. (and a similar highlighted s/s that shows 1 of my already listed periods to compare?) Ok Here we go: The following is considering all available accounts from u=638,000 (created November 07, 2015, 01:02:24 PM) to u=663,000 (November 24, 2015, 07:09:13 AM) I should have 25,000 accounts but, in the end only 23,932 were processed. (I don't think it matters) Of the 23,932 accounts created: 22,406 accounts (93%) have 0 posts 1,187 accounts (5%) have 1-20 posts each and total 5,499 posts. 211 accounts (1%) have 20-100 posts each and total 9,287 posts. 157 accounts (1%) have 100+ posts each and total 51,092. The combined post count of these 23,932 accounts is 65,278. (Although 22,406 account account for 0 posts) This graph shows how many accounts were created on each of the full days within the range. https://i.gyazo.com/a05b27e0e71787c0f896d97365b97a6a.png I decided to remove all users with 9 posts or less or with most recent activity May 30, 2016 or earlier. In other words, I'm only going to be looking at Users with 10+ posts who have logged on at least once since June. That leaves us with 356 of the original 23,932 users responsible for 53,358 of the total 65,278 posts. Total accounts created by date: https://i.gyazo.com/08f68d3f4b90fc2fd79c8d6276fd36fc.png Accounts from abovepost count totals grouped by registration date. https://i.gyazo.com/61a373aa39c190e5ece953756e769f7d.png On Nov 8th from 10:52am-12:17pm a new account was created with 4-7 minutes between each. Then From 12:50-1:25pm and again from 4:04 to 4:45. https://i.gyazo.com/6e2eae96573f03d8720b43f75c7b92b9.png On November 9th there's a 7+ hour gap where no accounts are created (that meet our requirements) Then, starting at 3:12pm 6 more appear just a few minutes apart: https://i.gyazo.com/56fcdb13c7b4bd907afc4d43cbb28b20.png Here's the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QCINPhSFDa00-pJo6wGZ-Y7mM-xOq5KkzTdfuK2bMbE/edit?usp=sharing). Right now I've only got the filtered version of ~350 users who have 10+ posts and Active since June, I'll prob upload all 23k+ accounts on another sheet later. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 02, 2016, 07:51:53 PM Wow! It's really impressive that you were able to figure all this out. You should pass your evidence to the administrator in confidence, not publicly, because that would give the spammers time to prepare for ban evasion.
You have clearly done your research, just message the Admin and tell him what you think of it, I'm sure he'll consider it. Just curious, what do you mean by the abbreviation "bbc"? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 02, 2016, 08:30:26 PM Wow Twitchy, a lot of work there. I'll need more time to let this all sink in, but this is what I'm seeing at the moment...
Took me a while to see the tiny brown strip for 11/11 on the pie chart. I knew it was there somewhere! (in case any one else is looking) The pie chart is very hard to understand the relevance of. I have understood it now. The largest section is the day I am questioning. The second largest and third largest sections are the only other 2 days I have already shown farmer attacks in that time period. (nov 22/23) It is like a spam-o-meter of total posts of members from a certain registration day? The colouring on the spreadsheet maybe a little confusing to some. It shows some things clearly. What I did notice it did not pick up colourfully was a continuation of one of my lists. The 3rd account to register after Fidimoga u=662343 (6 minutes later, or 4 minutes after Fidimoga had posted) was.. (0/0, 0/0 accounts in-between) (edit - Fidimoga is u=662347. he was also missed off the list, adding now. last on list was Rostodom u=662343. other numbers adjusted below) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662347 Fidimoga (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662350 BrockHunter (20) Male 35 Houston https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662353 Vannterson (20) Female 35 Texas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662360 Gwerrahar (20) Male 26 Porcia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662362 Antesth (20) Male 29 TX https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662363 Etaurith (20) Male 26 Italy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662367 Ocytrem (20) Male 27 Italy 22 minutes to set up all 6, with their details and first post. All repeat posting schedule, all have a "witty" avatar. Less than 4 minutes spent per account. set up, posted, done! The filtered bar chart is very relevant. It shows 32 accounts who joined on Nov 22 are still active. (in last 3 months) It shows 42 accounts who joined on Nov 23 are still active. (they are 1st and 3rd highest days) Both days are on my farmer list. The 2nd highest is being looked into. On Nov 22 I have listed 16 still active farmed account. Take away 16 from total 32 still active accounts from that day, = 16 not farmed, still active, at best. On Nov 23 I have listed 22 farmed accounts previously, now another still active farmed accounts outnumber active "real people" accounts 2-1, that registered on Nov 23. And 1-1 farmed/real accounts that registered on Nov 22 and still active in last 3 months. I have also listed farming accounts Nov 24, 25, (26 to follow) 27,28, 29. I haven't looked any further yet. This is not an isolated incident. We have been overrun! Great work there TwitchySeal, thanks. (i need a beer, my head is spinning :D) ^ bbc. spammer list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 i have ordered and used it. (see page 2 here) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 02, 2016, 09:10:07 PM Wow! It's really impressive that you were able to figure all this out. You should pass your evidence to the administrator in confidence, not publicly, because that would give the spammers time to prepare for ban evasion. You have clearly done your research, just message the Admin and tell him what you think of it, I'm sure he'll consider it. Just curious, what do you mean by the abbreviation "bbc"? Theymos knows. I always said that. I also meant he knows I am posting. It started in the bbc spammer thread I think. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 I did not know where this was going. He did. He could have replied me anytime. He could have messaged me anytime. He didn't. He hasn't. He still could. No mod has posted here in 5 pages. I was previously told I would be lucky if Theymos was bothered, I think. If I had known the scale of things, maybe I would have done things differently. I didn't know. Theymos did. He could have stopped this anytime. The bct co-owner was posting last night, in the next thread. I am ignored by mods in other threads too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0 I agree it may have been more advantageous for Theymos not to have shown others how all this works. He has not banned me either, so..? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 02, 2016, 11:20:01 PM Wow! It's really impressive that you were able to figure all this out. You should pass your evidence to the administrator in confidence, not publicly, because that would give the spammers time to prepare for ban evasion. You have clearly done your research, just message the Admin and tell him what you think of it, I'm sure he'll consider it. Just curious, what do you mean by the abbreviation "bbc"? Theymos knows. I always said that. I also meant he knows I am posting. It started in the bbc spammer thread I think. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 I did not know where this was going. He did. He could have replied me anytime. He could have messaged me anytime. He didn't. He hasn't. He still could. No mod has posted here in 5 pages. I was previously told I would be lucky if Theymos was bothered, I think. If I had known the scale of things, maybe I would have done things differently. I didn't know. Theymos did. He could have stopped this anytime. The bct co-owner was posting last night, in the next thread. I am ignored by mods in other threads too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0 I agree it may have been more advantageous for Theymos not to have shown others how all this works. He has not banned me either, so..? I'll weigh in on this from my politico-economical thinking perspective. He most likely has been aware of this activity for a very long time, long before you "discovered" it. However, he chooses to remain silent on the issue, because giving a statement would only lead to his statement being used against him on the forums, which would lead to nearly the entire forum discovering this. He clearly does not want to get rid of the issue at hand because doing so would challenge the ad revenue he receives. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on September 02, 2016, 11:41:27 PM Wow! It's really impressive that you were able to figure all this out. You should pass your evidence to the administrator in confidence, not publicly, because that would give the spammers time to prepare for ban evasion. You have clearly done your research, just message the Admin and tell him what you think of it, I'm sure he'll consider it. Just curious, what do you mean by the abbreviation "bbc"? Theymos knows. I always said that. I also meant he knows I am posting. It started in the bbc spammer thread I think. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 I did not know where this was going. He did. He could have replied me anytime. He could have messaged me anytime. He didn't. He hasn't. He still could. No mod has posted here in 5 pages. I was previously told I would be lucky if Theymos was bothered, I think. If I had known the scale of things, maybe I would have done things differently. I didn't know. Theymos did. He could have stopped this anytime. The bct co-owner was posting last night, in the next thread. I am ignored by mods in other threads too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0 I agree it may have been more advantageous for Theymos not to have shown others how all this works. He has not banned me either, so..? I'll weigh in on this from my politico-economical thinking perspective. He most likely has been aware of this activity for a very long time, long before you "discovered" it. However, he chooses to remain silent on the issue, because giving a statement would only lead to his statement being used against him on the forums, which would lead to nearly the entire forum discovering this. He clearly does not want to get rid of the issue at hand because doing so would challenge the ad revenue he receives. I think he just has more important shit to deal with. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Teraboy on September 03, 2016, 12:09:14 AM Okay, I'm supporting about this thread for against the farmer account but i got this
http://imgur.com/a/D8hh1 http://imgur.com/a/ikoip The main account is Ryananda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=659734 with main address 1KJGwYDeeS85ugxvPS7maPSqEMDWZLQQUs and linked into his alt account -Imoote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.msg13462540#msg13462540 -novemberwoah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545749.msg15542235#msg15542235 And all of their accounts is already signed become a participant in Seconstrade, Satoshigames and IdsOption. That is just one example of the farmer. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 03, 2016, 12:54:04 AM @rizzlarolla. Thank you for doing this.
Check this account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639604 The biggest takeaway with these farmed accounts are the no. of posts and their activity are the same or almost the same. They join signature campaigns as an added incentive but I speculate that the main objective for these farmers is to sell those accounts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 03, 2016, 06:24:19 PM I think he just has more important shit to deal with. Ok, lets hope so. Though this forum going to ruin should be quite high on his important list I would think. Okay, I'm supporting about this thread for against the farmer account but i got this In will look at some point. I see you have reported to known alts thread also. That is the correct place for now. @rizzlarolla. Thank you for doing this. Check this account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639604 In the process of checking. This account is already on your bbc. spammer list, and features in TwitchySeals last but 1 post above. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 03, 2016, 07:50:09 PM On November 9th there's a 7+ hour gap where no accounts are created (that meet our requirements) Then, starting at 3:12pm 6 more appear just a few minutes apart: https://i.gyazo.com/56fcdb13c7b4bd907afc4d43cbb28b20.png I'll start with this smaller section! AngryDwarf is not farmed. Look at his first posts, completely different. Hubballi is not farmed. same as above. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640554 Strongkored (1013) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640559 fachant (65) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640564 dodgrad (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640570 Bettwarm (79) Followed by (actually 47 zero post members later) Blind Legs Parker. Blind Legs is not a farmed account. different posting (not 1 line spam) and he speaks french. Let's look at these four in more detail. Their first 3 posts, minutes apart. Strongkored Nov 9 @7.47pm Nov 22 @10.56am Dec3 @1.44pm fachant Nov 9 @7.50pm Nov 22 @11.00am Dec3 @1.48pm dodgrad Nov 9 @7.54pm Nov 22 @11.05am Dec3 @1.51pm Bettwarm Nov 9 @7.57pm Nov 22 @11.07am Dec3 @1.53pm Farmed? Conclusive. 4 accounts, 1200 spam posts. I will continue with this section later. Ok, carrying on. cas hking2025, not farmed (even with the standard farmed 20 post account!) Just look at his posts. munkey666 is not included either as is not farmed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641327 Ilikechineseefood (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred (171) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641342 FrannWilder (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641347 Fofofolo (110) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641360 italianobitcoin (284) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641367 maudevang (403) Lets look in more detail at their first posts. Ilikechineseefood Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 HilbillyFred Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 FrannWilder Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 Fofofolo Nov 9,13,16,16,16,16 italianobitcoin Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 maudevang Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 (pretty much every other account in this registration time frame not mentioned here and not shown in the colour chart above, is a 0 or 1 post "dormant" account. see twitchyseals link to spreadsheet. there were 813 accounts registered in this time frame of 9 hours covering both attacks) Farmed? conclusive. 6 accounts, 1000 spam posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 03, 2016, 11:40:27 PM On Nov 8th from 10:52am-12:17pm a new account was created with 4-7 minutes between each. Then From 12:50-1:25pm and again from 4:04 to 4:45. https://i.gyazo.com/6e2eae96573f03d8720b43f75c7b92b9.png Ok I'll start on this next piece, working up from the bottom. cfif is not farmed, nor Crypto Greek. Nor, I don't think, is grambel (but he should be banned anyway for shouting every post really loudly ;)). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639605 mirakal (1563) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639604 anthonydar (196) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639598 posternat (169) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639593 coinyard (347) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639581 glerand (32) I dont really know if their writing style changed as all early posts, bar 2, were 1 liners. coinyard did have one 2 line post in Dec that had a gap, followed by a 2 liner without a gap, then back to 1 liners. glerand's 32 posts are all 1 line shitposts. these accounts took 23 minutes to create and first post, then left for 2 weeks. Look at the posts mirakal Nov 8,22 Dec 3,14,25 Jan 7,20 Feb 3,16,29 anthonydar Nov 8,22 Dec 3,13,24 Jan 2,5,8,10,11, posternat Nov 8,22 Dec 3,12,23 Jan 6 Feb 1,14,27 coinyard Nov 8,22 Dec 3,12,23 Jan 6 Feb 1,14,27 glerand Nov 8,22 Dec 3,15, Jan 7,11,20,22,26 Their second posts on Nov 22 all minutes apart, not detailed here, check that yourselves! (as were the first obvs) I stopped looking there. 5 farmed accounts, 2150 spam posts. *** bbc. spammer list I'll carry on up the Twitchys filtered chart another time. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Chris! on September 04, 2016, 02:21:37 PM This is just kind of a random observation and honestly I have no idea if it means anything. Every time I see an account up for sale the morons always say:
This account doesn't has a stacked address. It's a 'staked' address not a 'stacked' address. I'm wondering if it's the same nincompoop or if all account farmers spell the same word wrong every single time. Other grammatical errors from account farmers are: "I advice you..." when it should be "I advise you..." And of course "Your an idiot" lol. These last two are mistakes made by literally 95% of the forum so I wouldn't put too much weight on them. This whole 'stacked' address thing seems like such a random mistake that it must be the same person or group of people. Great charts twitchyseal. They're better than my dinky little idea of a scatterplot hahaha. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 04, 2016, 03:01:16 PM This is just kind of a random observation and honestly I have no idea if it means anything. Every time I see an account up for sale the morons always say: This account doesn't has a stacked address. It's a 'staked' address not a 'stacked' address. I'm wondering if it's the same nincompoop or if all account farmers spell the same word wrong every single time. Other grammatical errors from account farmers are: "I advice you..." when it should be "I advise you..." And of course "Your an idiot" lol. These last two are mistakes made by literally 95% of the forum so I wouldn't put too much weight on them. This whole 'stacked' address thing seems like such a random mistake that it must be the same person or group of people. Great charts twitchyseal. They're better than my dinky little idea of a scatterplot hahaha. Moral of the story: If you want to break a bunch of rules, be very fluent in English. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 05, 2016, 02:24:20 PM carrying on,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 FruitBucket (245) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376 Omegasun (463) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639383 Blue_Panda73 (129) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639388 Posum578 (607) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG (232) did not post nov 22 ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639398 Jambolb2 (234) did not post nov 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399 Jimbola3 (342) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639406 Intristing (153) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639435 ultrloa (534) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639448 Alubert (109) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639563 andreld (203) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639573 onemd (148) Two weeks after registering and instantly first posting, second posts are made on Nov 22. All accounts here were created and first posted on Nov 8 in a similarly ordered fashion, but there was a near 3 hour gap in registration between Alubert and andreld which there is not on the second posting schedule shown below. All posts are minutes apart, and still in same order accounts were created. FruitBucket 9.15 am Omegasun 9.20 am Blue_Panda73 9.28 am Posum578 9.31 am Jimbola3 9.35 am Intristing 9.38 am Kollor 9.41 am RustyNoman 9.43 am freedomgo 9.47 am piloder 9.50 am ultrloa 9.57 am zend7 10.00 am Alubert 10.08 am ------------------------------- different registration times/lists come together for famers second post schedule. andreld 10.14 am onemd 10.16 am glerand 10.26 am listed in previous post coinyard 10.29 am listed in previous post posternat 10.31 am listed in previous post anthonydar 10.39 am listed in previous post mirakal 10.41 am listed in previous post Can't see how these can be anything but farmed accounts. *** bbc. spammer list Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on September 05, 2016, 02:34:18 PM carrying on, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 FruitBucket (245) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376 Omegasun (463) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639383 Blue_Panda73 (129) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639388 Posum578 (607) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG (232) did not post nov 22 ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639398 Jambolb2 (234) did not post nov 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399 Jimbola3 (342) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639406 Intristing (153) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639435 ultrloa (534) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639448 Alubert (109) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639563 andreld (203) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639573 onemd (148) Two weeks after registering and instantly first posting, second posts are made on Nov 22. All accounts here were created and first posted on Nov 8 in a similarly ordered fashion, but there was a near 3 hour gap in registration between Alubert and andreld which there is not on the second posting schedule shown below. All posts are minutes apart, and still in same order accounts were created. FruitBucket 9.15 am Omegasun 9.20 am Blue_Panda73 9.28 am Posum578 9.31 am Jimbola3 9.35 am Intristing 9.38 am Kollor 9.41 am RustyNoman 9.43 am freedomgo 9.47 am piloder 9.50 am ultrloa 9.57 am zend7 10.00 am Alubert 10.08 am ------------------------------- different registration times/lists come together for famers second post schedule. andreld 10.14 am onemd 10.16 am glerand 10.26 am listed in previous post coinyard 10.29 am listed in previous post posternat 10.31 am listed in previous post anthonydar 10.39 am listed in previous post mirakal 10.41 am listed in previous post Can't see how these can be anything but farmed accounts. *** bbc. spammer list Great investigation but you don't get a life? Daily research on this? Your logic sounds plausible, but the logic can't be correct, because there are hundreds/thousands of accounts were made everyday, but you think these active members are all farmed accounts? If you wish mods ban them, then it is impossible because others accounts registered mist be very quiet in that day(it is the reason you pick these accounts), if they ban those accounts in your logic, every daily active members should be all farmed accounts, this is your logic. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on September 05, 2016, 02:51:32 PM Great investigation. Thanks!How many of your accounts have been mentioned so far? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 06, 2016, 12:26:03 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668256
Here is another one. One or two liner posts that are generic and does not really add anything to the conversation. Also note the quoted posts from newbie or junior accounts which are probably from the same farmer. The post count and activity count are the same. I found more here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875065 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=769067 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893727 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 06, 2016, 01:57:02 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) Pretty good chance Cantoner is an alt of knowhow, a guy who had a lot of BCT accounts and did a lot of account farming. He and all his alts got banned for spam, so the account "Cantoner" is probably banned too. No solid proof linking them, but they talk way too similarly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469369.msg14836153#msg14836153). The other alts might have been also farmed by him, and banned. Surprised how many farmed accounts there are. Cantoner has not posted since may, so may have been banned. But most others I have listed, and even on the same list as Cantoner, are still active. As you know, we can't tell if an account is banned or not. We can only see last activity. Only mods, staff and admin can see ban status, rather annoyingly. Cantoner was on an alphabetical list. These list appear to be interconnected, making it most likely the work of one farmer. One farmer with hundreds of accounts - just like Knowhow? Please tell me, Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here) How long ago was that? Can you link any threads, or u=#? ------------------- bbc.reporter, u=668256 is already listed by me. Also u=669148. (see summary on page 3, will update again soon) The other 3 are outside or my target u=range at the moment. My target area is u=500000 - u=700000. (because of your original list) When I feel I have properly covered that period, maybe I'll expand my search forward/back from there. Please keep looking. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousandco on September 06, 2016, 02:06:02 PM Pretty good chance Cantoner is an alt of knowhow, a guy who had a lot of BCT accounts and did a lot of account farming. He and all his alts got banned for spam, so the account "Cantoner" is probably banned too. No solid proof linking them, but they talk way too similarly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469369.msg14836153#msg14836153). The other alts might have been also farmed by him, and banned. Surprised how many farmed accounts there are. Cantoner has not posted since may, so may have been banned. He was banned. Please tell me, Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here) How long ago was that? Can you link any threads, or u=#? Yes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455496.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 06, 2016, 02:29:35 PM He was banned. Please tell me, Yes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455496.0How long ago was that? Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here) Can you link any threads, or u=#? Thanks. Cantoner was banned but clearly not all his other related accounts were. (see the list he is on here) In fact, it could only be a tiny percentage that were banned, as nearly all I have listed (and connected) are still active. (or was there just lots of zero post accounts banned as mentioned in bbc.spammer thread?) I wondered, "Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here)" Was it just 1 or 2 accounts involved/banned? ---- vvv Ok thanks vvv Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousandco on September 06, 2016, 02:31:39 PM Cantoner was banned but clearly not all his other related accounts were. (see the list he is on here) In fact, it could only be a tiny percentage that were banned, as nearly all I have listed (and connected) are still active. (or was there just lots of zero post accounts banned as mentioned in bbc.spammer thread?) I wondered, "Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here)" Was it just 1 or 2 accounts involved/banned? BadBear will have likely only found the ones from the IP(s) connected directly to KnowHow. I've asked Cyrus to look into it further. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 06, 2016, 03:51:45 PM Look at these 4 accounts. Nov 20.
They are going on the farmer list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658151 sanas (247) *** reg 6.56 first post 7.00 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658156 apriyoni (263) reg 7.02 first post 7.04 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658163 virasog (123) reg 7.06 first post 7.09 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658171 mickiya (195) reg 7.11 first post 7.14 Where have I seen these names before? Oh yes, they are even in the same order! S - A - V - M (from summary) November 25, 2015, 07:53:48 AM - November 25, 2015, 10:25:22 AM Time scale 2 hours 35 minutes. 24 farmed accounts, 1900 spam posts h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664793 sadyas (29) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664805 apriloni (45) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664811 virusasog (92) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664818 michkima (28) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664832 satdas (122) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664837 asrilani (206) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664839 virasisog (129) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664845 miakama (24) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664876 studas (21) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664883 asdalani (241) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664899 varusisog (74)*** h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664909 misakama (23) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 stadus (210) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 asidamani (20) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664935 vasrasus (48) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664939 mistanama (23) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664958 sildyas (27) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664960 asriloni (340) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664962 vurasasog (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664965 mitkala (20) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664980 satmas (47) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664985 asradoni (21) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664989 vatusasid (19) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664992 miayama (125) Where else have I seen this pattern? Oh yes, these are also in the same order! K - R - F - P (from summary) Nov 8 h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) November 23, 2015, 08:40:28 AM - November 23, 2015, 12:30:20 PM Time scale 4 hours. 29 farmed accounts, 2500 spam posts h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 Kellor (193)*** h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662243 RustNan (21) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662244 Fredomago (220) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662247 Piladeer (100) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280 Kaller (100)*** h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662284 RastMan (32) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662285 Frodomaga (219) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662288 Palider (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662294 Kalder (168) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662295 RastoMan (296) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662298 Flodemaga (25) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306 Palodar (122) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662310 Kolder 122) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662312 Rastanan (143)*** h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662316 Flademago (126) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662318 Pamadar (24) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662322 Koamder (248) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662326 Rastadon (20) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662329 Fademigo (180) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330 Pamoldar (25) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662337 Kolamider (25) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662342 Rostadom (25) *** bbc. spammer list. added, added, found these 4, Nov 14, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648892 zalucia (265) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648894 mikewillda (201) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648896 Bazelak (193) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648897 fricircled (200) How about these 6, Nov 24. Also going on the farmer list. (post history's confirm connection) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662945 Zulucia (28) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662950 milewilda (217) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662955 Bokelka (271) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662964 fracorcled (28) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662976 Zaduca (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662995 masewild (24) (edit - oops, missed these two off the end of the spreadsheet) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663010 Batelk (150) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663022 fiscorcle (144) Then 1 hour later. Even these are still in the same order! Z - M - B - F (from summary) November 24, 2015, 09:09:15 AM - November 24, 2015, 10:12:52 AM Time scale 1 hour. 12 farmed accounts, 2400 spam posts. h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663111 Zosuda (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663116 molsewid (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663122 Bamselk (21) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663129 fasdorcas (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663136 Zadicar (860) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663142 Malsetid (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663146 Bamsed (67) *** h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663156 Fasdurcas (23) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663174 Zudalar (22) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663185 Mastsetad (1344) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663190 Blamsud (21) h ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663195 Farstdury (23) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 06, 2016, 09:37:13 PM Two to three years ago, I would have naively gone to a thread that was auctioning a Bitcointalk account, in hopes of having acquired a good that I could hope to resell for a profit. However, after actually having visited sections outside of the Politics and Society subsection, I've come to realize that there's actually a lot of risk associated with account trading, you could end up buying an account that was hacked, which can later be recovered, or an account that already has a loan out.
I feel like the decision to allow account farming on this forum was made so the forum administrator could profit from them, as he is the sole beneficiary from this. I'll explain why I think this is the case. Account farmers will put on a signature ad, making the service advertised more popular. In return, the companies whose ads are placed will pay the people who have the ads in their sigs. I bet you're wondering, where does the Admin come in this? Well, occasionally, some private business owners will want to take it further, and to try and attract more users, they will donate to the forum to get the cool gold coins under their name. Ultimately, there is a cozy relationship that is formed between the forum administrator and the Bitcoin casino companies/exchanges. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: findscam on September 07, 2016, 08:06:12 AM OP is a detective. You can be a FBI agent. Your findings on those A, B, C, D starting accounts ... and so forth are shocking everyone. Maybe they are all knowhow's alts.
You are a spam finder, I am a scam finder. Let's shake hands. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 07, 2016, 11:01:53 AM This thread should be shown to all campaign managers that accept newbie accounts to member accounts. Those campaigns are vulnerable to the click farmers exploitation. Unless some of the campaigns are also part of the scheme.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 08, 2016, 08:20:26 PM For the more advanced let me try this list on you, involving potato power from bbc. list. (this is the oldest accounts on bbc. list. pre names pattern.) Note the generally higher post counts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552965 cobblelyf (39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552967 pianomasta (36) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552970 greatr (282) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552972 useless4 (280) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552974 ontrackk (243) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552978 funbarrel (297) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 potatopower (176) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552985 purebitco (250) 8 random names, so no clues there. Back to how I start (and continue) verifying. Posting schedule. Let's look at their first 12 posts. (all rehashed meaningless content, if you wish to verify further take a read) cobblelyf (39) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 pianomasta (36) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 greatr (282) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 useless4 (280) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 ontrackk (243) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 funbarrel (297) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 potatopower (176) *** Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 purebitco (250) Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 Farmed? Conclusive. Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. So, the other early bbc. listing, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553230 frostice (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553232 airsounds (165) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553235 fireball4 (166) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553238 oceanriver (140) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp (175) *** frostice (16) Sep 8,25 Oct 23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 airsounds (165) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 fireball4 (166) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23, Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 oceanriver (140) Sep 8, Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 angryswamp (175) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 They start very slightly different but... and Nov 20! Time scale 30 minutes. 5 farmed accounts, 600 spam posts. I showed how they all posted on similar days while ranking up. Lets look again at these proven farmed accounts, see what they are doing now. A couple are inactive (cobblelyf, pianomasta, frostice) maybe banned? maybe dormant? potatopower can't get enrolled in a campaign yet. He is wearing idsoption.com sig, just applied Sept 7. The other 9 are enrolled in idsoption.com campaign. ALL 9 (soon to be 10?) in the same campaign! I have notified the manager. ALL are posting 1 line spam, taking seconds to write. ALL are posting 5 post in a session. ALL are posting on rota, usually taking less than 5 minutes to produce 5 posts. Look at the posts from yesterday, Sept 7. greatr 7.56, 7.57, 7.58, 7.59, 7.59 (pm) 3 minutes, 5x 1 line posts. useless4 8.01, 8.02, 8.02, 8.03, 8.03 (pm) 2 minutes, 5x1 funbarrel 8.15, 8.16, 8.16, 8.17, 8.37 (pm) 22 minutes, 5x1. distracted on that last post. maybe why a 20 minute gap till.. ontrakk 9.08, 9.09, 9.09, 9.10, 9.12 (pm) 4 minutes, 5x1 purebitco 9.17, 9.18, 9,18, 9.20, 9.21 (pm) 4 minutes, 5x1 airsounds 9.25, 9.26, 9.28, 9.29, 9.30 (pm) 5 minutes, 5x1 fireball4 9.37, 9.38, 9.38, 9.39, 9.40 (pm) 3 minutes, 5x1, oceanriver 9.45, 9.46, 9.47, 9.48, 9.49 (pm) 4 mnutes, 5x1, angtyswamp 9.51, 9.55, 9.55, 9.56, 9.59 (pm) 8 mintes, 5x1, 45x 1 line posts in 2 hours from 13 listed farmed accounts. There are some gaps in the rota, maybe I missed someone somewhere. But it goes on, of course. How about.. (still Sept 7 posts) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553575 skysblu (174) 12.15, 12.16, 12.19, 12.20, 12.22 (am) 7 min 5x1 Ok, all AM instead of PM. But wait, there are 5 more later.. 10.34, 10.36, 10.39, 10.40, 10.40 (pm) 6 min 5x1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553583 dragunfly (160) 12.24, 12.26, 12.27, 12.28, 12.28 (am) 4 min 5x1 Same again here... 10.24, 10.25, 10.25, 10.27, 10,29 (pm) 5 min 5x1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553587 ttargett (151) 12.33, 12.34, 12.36, 12.38, 12.40 (am) 7 min 5x1 and again... oh,i see, these accounts are posting in reverse order from am. 10.16, 10.19, 10.19, 10,21, 10,22 (pm) 6 min 5x1 I haven't looked any further to see if this new list (above) is longer than 3 accounts. (i dont have that spreadsheet to help) Oh, but I have just found a hero member who fits into all this very nicely. (this account would be on a different spreadsheet and different list) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88178 Nimbulan (1116) 8.46, 8.47, 8.50, 8.50, 8.51 (pm, sept 7) 5 min 5x1 These posts fit between funbarrel and ontrakk, with a 10 - 15 minute gap either side. I'm still missing some! That is now 80 1 line posts listed here. Same today, same day before. (check a few of their history's) This is the trouble with farmed accounts. Their sole purpose is to create money for the owner. x 100's. 1 line spam in seconds. next post. x 100's of accounts. (or in some cases it could be a couple lines, to "cover". still meaningless spam) It is driving away real members. And the farmer is being paid handsomely to do it. All in clear view of Theymos and the mods. (much less clearly to me and my lack of info access) Something doesn't add up. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 09, 2016, 06:10:54 PM ^^^ "I have notified the manager." ^^^ IDS Option Signature Campaign-closed [Announcement] Due to issues with our parent company, we are no longer able to continue this signature campaign. We will pay all participants for posts up to September 8, 2016. We thank you for your support and hope to meet you again once more in the future. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2016, 02:23:58 AM ^^^ "I have notified the manager." ^^^ IDS Option Signature Campaign-closed [Announcement] Due to issues with our parent company, we are no longer able to continue this signature campaign. We will pay all participants for posts up to September 8, 2016. We thank you for your support and hope to meet you again once more in the future. He must have realized that most of his campaigners all come from a single click farm. The other campaign that I have noticed who have a lot of these farmed accounts is secondstrade. I already warned the manager and he is now aware. I am surprised some click farm accounts are up to the senior member level. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 18, 2016, 09:43:26 AM @Rizzlarolla. Are there more updates? I have been sending this thread to the campaigns that have members mentioned here in this thread. It is very laughable how some of the more experienced campaign managers are still accepting spammers and farmed accounts.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: brendongl on September 18, 2016, 09:51:45 AM I'm still a newbie and not a spam / account farmer and all of the endless spam is really turning me off using these forums.
Isn't there some systems we can put into place where it is not possible to farm accounts? My opinion a good way to decide if an account is a spammer, is to see if he just literally repeats what someone has already said. They generally don't read what people have typed. albeit, if the thread is 9 pages, sure, but usually its good practice to read the the last page...so many people just keep repeating and repeating what has been said just to earn them campaign coins.... I've already voiced my concern and fustration in another post as well. @Rizzlarolla. Are there more updates? I have been sending this thread to the campaigns that have members mentioned here in this thread. It is very laughable how some of the more experienced campaign managers are still accepting spammers and farmed accounts. I dont see why campaign managers would care? I mean the whole point of campaigns is to get exposure for whatever it is, and these farming accounts post everywhere, so that is more exposure. I mean it would be nice if campaign managers cared, but likelyhood of them doing so is pretty weak imho. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 18, 2016, 09:59:11 AM Campaign managers should care and they need to have good quality with their campaigns because if not there is already a thread here that mentioned that the mods are already thinking of banning signature campaigns. Do you like that to happen? That would be unfair for the real posters here. So it would also be in our best interest to help the campaign managers protect their campaign from spammers and click farmed accounts.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on September 18, 2016, 10:02:40 AM My opinion a good way to decide if an account is a spammer, is to see if he just literally repeats what someone has already said. They generally don't read what people have typed. albeit, if the thread is 9 pages, sure, but usually its good practice to read the the last page...so many people just keep repeating and repeating what has been said just to earn them campaign coins.... You mean people saying exactly what was just said, instead of reading? Like I just did right now, just to prove your point? :DAnother obvious sign is when 9+ out of 10 posters have a paid signature. The campaign I'm in recently stopped counting "the obvious spam threads" that are filled like that. Quote I dont see why campaign managers would care? I mean the whole point of campaigns is to get exposure for whatever it is If the thread is mainly filled with other signature spammers, the exposure it gives the campaign will be worthless.I notice that a lot of threads end up like this, 30 signature farmers all talking to eachother, while everybody else has abandoned that thread, even if the thread did start out useful. My preferred "solution" now it to use the signature as an indication whether or not the post if worth reading. The bigger the signature, the less likely it's worth my time. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Accountcreators on September 18, 2016, 10:11:34 AM Campaign managers should care and they need to have good quality with their campaigns because if not there is already a thread here that mentioned that the mods are already thinking of banning signature campaigns. Do you like that to happen? That would be unfair for the real posters here. So it would also be in our best interest to help the campaign managers protect their campaign from spammers and click farmed accounts. Says the person who have the most number of posts in the Alternate Cryptocurrencies area. Of course being a Yobit shitposter there is nothing to be surprised. So how much have you been paid to spam all of the alt section from yobit ? Maybe pennies. Worthless shit , that is what you are. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 18, 2016, 10:33:03 AM Campaign managers should care and they need to have good quality with their campaigns because if not there is already a thread here that mentioned that the mods are already thinking of banning signature campaigns. Do you like that to happen? That would be unfair for the real posters here. So it would also be in our best interest to help the campaign managers protect their campaign from spammers and click farmed accounts. Says the person who have the most number of posts in the Alternate Cryptocurrencies area. Of course being a Yobit shitposter there is nothing to be surprised. So how much have you been paid to spam all of the alt section from yobit ? Maybe pennies. Worthless shit , that is what you are. Said the 3 activity newbie called "Accountcreators". Lol, keep it up bro, your insecurities are being hid really nicely, and are totally not projected in your posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: chixka000 on September 18, 2016, 12:18:09 PM Just adding something to the list for the record.The person probably has more accounts in control than we could ever imagine.Here is one of the quotes from his threads where he offers his account piloting service.My first step of action,approaching all the campaign managers which the accounts are a part of and having them perma banned from the campaign.Yahoo already tagged and removed the two accounts~ So i was thinking to build a pilot service i will not be the one who will pilot your account. You will be done to choose of to whom are you going to trust your account. On the other hand i will be doing the escrow service for the benefit also of your pilot at the same time i will be the one who will monitor it and sends you updates to your email so that you can take actions directly. How much will i be paying to my pilot? It is up to both of you but i suggest to do 50-50 or a 60-40 note: for everyone, Pilot service on account is my service especially with my Co worker in company.. we have 50/50 profit. so it's up to you now. you can check it in my IP. if we are same IP until now. Goodluck master Joel Let the moderator check my IP and if they found that i am farming other accounts. I may post a bad idea but this doesn't mean that i will allow you to destroy my image lets make deal then if ever that you are proven wrong submit your account and let it be banned for accusing :) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: brendongl on September 18, 2016, 12:50:19 PM My opinion a good way to decide if an account is a spammer, is to see if he just literally repeats what someone has already said. They generally don't read what people have typed. albeit, if the thread is 9 pages, sure, but usually its good practice to read the the last page...so many people just keep repeating and repeating what has been said just to earn them campaign coins.... You mean people saying exactly what was just said, instead of reading? Like I just did right now, just to prove your point? :DAnother obvious sign is when 9+ out of 10 posters have a paid signature. The campaign I'm in recently stopped counting "the obvious spam threads" that are filled like that. Quote I dont see why campaign managers would care? I mean the whole point of campaigns is to get exposure for whatever it is If the thread is mainly filled with other signature spammers, the exposure it gives the campaign will be worthless.I notice that a lot of threads end up like this, 30 signature farmers all talking to eachother, while everybody else has abandoned that thread, even if the thread did start out useful. My preferred "solution" now it to use the signature as an indication whether or not the post if worth reading. The bigger the signature, the less likely it's worth my time. This solution of yours...means that you may miss out on a quality / informative post made by someone who isn't actively participating in a signature campaign or a newbie, like myself. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 18, 2016, 01:27:44 PM @rizzlarolla. Please also check the patterns for these accounts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897152 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897577
These two accounts gave me a negative trust rating right after I warned campaign manager of Iconomi about the farmed accounts exposed in this thread, unless they remove it after reading this. :D True enough that proves that there is really a lot of click farming going on here. Also please take note of the dates registered of those accounts. Something tells me they are registering accounts none stop every month. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: FastEddie1 on September 18, 2016, 03:57:00 PM Once they roll out the new forum they should remove Sig campaigns all together.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 18, 2016, 08:43:19 PM Summary of listed farmed account profiles. Updated Sept 18. (some time periods/spam counts are now outdated/yet to be edited)
(edited Sept 25) June 23. 12.22pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525056 BitMaxz (2958) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525057 CrimBit (1177) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525058 InvoKing (777) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525059 Corealz (208) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060 SirLancelot (209) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525061 BlueStackz (461) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525062 JumperX (2064) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525063 PizzaBTC (107) Sept 1, 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550948 pocarime32 (1895) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550949 adibe (1631) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550950 23dzmaz (1673) September 07, 2015, 06:55:21 PM - September 07, 2015, 07:49:26 PM Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552965 cobblelyf (39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552967 pianomasta (36) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552970 greatr (282) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552972 useless4 (280) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552974 ontrackk (243) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552978 funbarrel (297) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 potatopower (176) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552985 purebitco (250) September 08, 2015, 07:43:36 PM - September 08, 2015, 08:15:12 PM Time scale 30 minutes. 5 farmed accounts, 600 spam post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553230 frostice (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553232 airsounds (165) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553235 fireball4 (166) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553238 oceanriver (140) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp (175) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553575 skysblu (174) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553583 dragunfly (160) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553587 ttargett (151) Nov 2 2015. 4.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628711 LarryHocks (517) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628722 Lokfar (536) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628725 NewInCryptoCurrency (281) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628729 Icathia (423) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628731 RobinHoodster (428) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628735 Altcoinmoney (283) Nov 8. 11.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 FruitBucket (245) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376 Omegasun (463) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639383 Blue_Panda73 (129) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639388 Posum578 (607) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG (232) did not post nov 22 ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639398 Jambolb2 (234) did not post nov 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399 Jimbola3 (342) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639406 Intristing (153) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639435 ultrloa (534) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639448 Alubert (109) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639563 andreld (203) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639573 onemd (148) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639581 glerand (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639593 coinyard (347) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639598 posternat (169) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639604 anthonydar (196) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639605 mirakal (1563) Nov 9, 2015 7.45am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640554 Strongkored (1013) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640559 fachant (65) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640564 dodgrad (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=640570 Bettwarm (79) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641327 Ilikechineseefood (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred (171) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641342 FrannWilder (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641347 Fofofolo (110) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641360 italianobitcoin (284) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641367 maudevang (403) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641387 Galiatram (286) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641391 Etaren (110) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641395 CoinsRoyal (338) Nov 10, 12.30pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude (368) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642838 InsideBjorn (442) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642848 Emersonnets (132) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean (241) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642854 Cozynunu (256) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642860 Adrorecia (246) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642862 nonontech (61) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642873 Dwelach (324) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642881 Erzatium (278) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642882 Legoiniel (9) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642898 Epicnicity (111) Nov 12. 1.48pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647183 hungryFinest (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647194 SpeedyCapo (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647201 Friladon (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647205 BreakingSlow (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647212 Ereacia (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647233 Maxsumi (21) Nov 13. 1.15pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648391 TravisNeko (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648404 DixieCrayon (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648435 Braeron (44) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648448 Cendassi (37) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648457 Ethalir (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648573 Drelav (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648577 Gliassa (21) Nov 14, 2015 1.30pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648892 zalucia (265) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648894 mikewillda (201) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648896 Bazelak (193) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648897 fricircled (200) Nov 16. 9.46am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651655 HoshiPost (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651660 Mirardowyn (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651666 Pwerd (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651671 Hedrilin (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651685 Agraoclya (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651686 Adaleon (62) Nov 17. 1.16pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653573 Dapallo (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653585 Eroanwan (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653591 Supebox (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653600 Ocalebeth (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653607 ConnAlt (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653617 Umigokath (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653657 Bradexterb (43) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653659 Dwetha (21) Nov 19. 9.55am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656722 Lesterexon (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656731 Jaxelrell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656742 Hallseplex (22) 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Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 18, 2016, 09:31:19 PM @Rizzlarolla. Are there more updates? I have been sending this thread to the campaigns that have members mentioned here in this thread. It is very laughable how some of the more experienced campaign managers are still accepting spammers and farmed accounts. Thanks for that. No surprise there. Theymos is in on this, and the mods, and so the managers, I suspect. My opinion a good way to decide if an account is a spammer, is to see if he just literally repeats what someone has already said. They generally don't read what people have typed. Thing is, that is the mods job which they fail to do, but is also an different issue to farmed accounts. Many people could disputably be accused of spamming at some time or other, probably. But a farmed account can ONLY EVER be spam. My preferred "solution" now it to use the signature as an indication whether or not the post if worth reading. The bigger the signature, the less likely it's worth my time. But that is where you and Danny Hamilton are going wrong imo. Many of these farmed accounts will not have a sig as they "rank up". There posts are still total spam. You have a sig, should I look down on you for that alone, regardless of post quality and intent? Says the person who have the most number of posts in the Alternate Cryptocurrencies area. Of course being a Yobit shitposter there is nothing to be surprised. So how much have you been paid to spam all of the alt section from yobit ? Maybe pennies. Worthless shit , that is what you are. Again, different issue. I would rather have 1 "real" person spamming 1 account than 1 farmer spamming 200+ accounts and counting. There is no way to tackle individual spamming when farmed accounts are leading the charge and being well paid/protected. Let the moderator check my IP and if they found that i am farming other accounts. I may post a bad idea but this doesn't mean that i will allow you to destroy my image lets make deal then if ever that you are proven wrong submit your account and let it be banned for accusing :) Ok watching. (a mod, take action?.. haha) You are not on my list yet. I am nowhere near the 800,000 membership! These two accounts gave me a negative trust rating right after I warned campaign manager of Iconomi about the farmed accounts exposed in this thread, unless they remove it after reading this. :D True enough that proves that there is really a lot of click farming going on here. Probably throwaway accounts at this stage. The manager should probably be looked at? (i'll try finding some time) If anyone wants to help, I need more spreadsheets to work from, similar to what Twitchy Seal produced for me. (thanks again to twitchy) But as I have said, all this "searching" is just for us few real members. Theymos already knows and has all this info at this fingertips. And has for ages. He is overseeing this attack. Probably why he disabled member search at the same time as the bannings Hilarious talked of here. So we would not see what he knew. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455496.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462814.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 18, 2016, 09:40:28 PM Just curious, what do you guys think creates demand for account farming? Don't say signature campaigns, because that's b.s, nobody goes through that trouble to come up with pennies per post per day. Also, most sig campaigns do not pay for spam posts.
I'll answer my own question, it's favoritism towards higher ranks and older accounts (Prior to 2011), valuing their opinions more deeply than the newer users (Recent 2-3 years). Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 18, 2016, 09:53:23 PM Just curious, what do you guys think creates demand for account farming? Don't say signature campaigns, because that's b.s, nobody goes through that trouble to come up with pennies per post per day. Also, most sig campaigns do not pay for spam posts. I'll answer my own question, it's favoritism towards higher ranks and older accounts (Prior to 2011), valuing their opinions more deeply than the newer users (Recent 2-3 years). Sig campaign is a good source of btc... if you have 200 accounts. Then, after spamming the forum for sig money, the now higher ranking accounts can be sold for decent amount of btc. New accounts are always being ranked up to replace sold accounts. Not all these accounts get on a sag campaign, so are ranked up by posting (usually) 1 every 2 week. Minimum time spent, maximum value created. I feel many do not understand that 1 single farmer owns/owned all of my listed accounts. He is making VERY good money. THOUSANDS of $ per week. (my list is compiled after looking at only a small number of members) How can that be right. How could Theymos and his mods not know or act. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 18, 2016, 10:09:58 PM How can that be right. How could Theymos and his mods not know or act. I already explained the economics behind it. The site administrators benefit from ad revenue, they are greater beneficiaries than people who rent out their sig space themselves. They have to pay trusted members of the community to get their campaigns to gain recognition. Who are these trusted members? Why, the donators and moderators themselves of course! My eyes are trained to see political ties, and this one is much too clear, The same guy moderating the Yobit signature campaign thread moderates all the other threads in its section. When advertisers flock to Bitcointalk.org seeing potential to make money, that's good for Bitcointalk's Admin. So, it's not they don't care, or they don't see it, but they know it's something that's happening, but trying to curb it would be at risk of causing a decline in Bitcointalk's advertising partners. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on September 19, 2016, 09:05:20 AM Just curious, what do you guys think creates demand for account farming? Don't say signature campaigns, because that's b.s, nobody goes through that trouble to come up with pennies per post per day. Also, most sig campaigns do not pay for spam posts. They earn pennies, but pennies add up to hundreds of dollars:Let me make up some numbers: 0.3 mBTC per post from various signature campaigns, and 100 posts per day. That makes 30 mBTC per day. $18.40 per day at current rates, or $550 per month, $6600 per year. In a lot of countries that is a very nice salary! People are solving captcha's and doing faucets for much less, and professional click farms make a living too. What if they start abusing this forum like this? https://i.imgur.com/HDlFG9c.jpg Compare this to the average salary per country (http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105) (this list is after taxes but I don't think spammers would pay taxes anyway). I'll pick a few: Europe: Greece: $834 Poland: $792 Latvia $677 Asia: India: $509 Philippines: $320 Indonesia $315 I've seen a lot of spammers from Indonesia. With just 50 posts per day they earn an average salary. If you're a bit efficient you can spam that in an hour. Now imagine doing 400 per day, you spend 8 hours and earn 8 average salaries! $2200 per month without paying taxes is a lot in most countries. Maybe market mechanisms will eventually take care of this: if enough "workers" offer their services to signature compaigns, they will lower their rates (lowering the spammers' revenue), or become more selective. Yobit for example stopped taking new applicants months ago, and they have thrown some people out of the campaign. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: brendongl on September 19, 2016, 11:50:45 AM Just curious, what do you guys think creates demand for account farming? Don't say signature campaigns, because that's b.s, nobody goes through that trouble to come up with pennies per post per day. Also, most sig campaigns do not pay for spam posts. They earn pennies, but pennies add up to hundreds of dollars:Let me make up some numbers: 0.3 mBTC per post from various signature campaigns, and 100 posts per day. That makes 30 mBTC per day. $18.40 per day at current rates, or $550 per month, $6600 per year. In a lot of countries that is a very nice salary! People are solving captcha's and doing faucets for much less, and professional click farms make a living too. What if they start abusing this forum like this? https://i.imgur.com/HDlFG9c.jpg Compare this to the average salary per country (http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105) (this list is after taxes but I don't think spammers would pay taxes anyway). I'll pick a few: Europe: Greece: $834 Poland: $792 Latvia $677 Asia: India: $509 Philippines: $320 Indonesia $315 I've seen a lot of spammers from Indonesia. With just 50 posts per day they earn an average salary. If you're a bit efficient you can spam that in an hour. Now imagine doing 400 per day, you spend 8 hours and earn 8 average salaries! $2200 per month without paying taxes is a lot in most countries. Maybe market mechanisms will eventually take care of this: if enough "workers" offer their services to signature compaigns, they will lower their rates (lowering the spammers' revenue), or become more selective. Yobit for example stopped taking new applicants months ago, and they have thrown some people out of the campaign. Lol...can you please tell me the point of that photo?? And yes i agree, in many countries it seems that posting spam on these forums, if done efficiently, can earn you better than most jobs that are available to them. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 19, 2016, 11:28:00 PM Just curious, what do you guys think creates demand for account farming? Don't say signature campaigns, because that's b.s, nobody goes through that trouble to come up with pennies per post per day. Also, most sig campaigns do not pay for spam posts. They earn pennies, but pennies add up to hundreds of dollars:Let me make up some numbers: 0.3 mBTC per post from various signature campaigns, and 100 posts per day. That makes 30 mBTC per day. $18.40 per day at current rates, or $550 per month, $6600 per year. In a lot of countries that is a very nice salary! People are solving captcha's and doing faucets for much less, and professional click farms make a living too. What if they start abusing this forum like this? https://i.imgur.com/HDlFG9c.jpg Compare this to the average salary per country (http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105) (this list is after taxes but I don't think spammers would pay taxes anyway). I'll pick a few: Europe: Greece: $834 Poland: $792 Latvia $677 Asia: India: $509 Philippines: $320 Indonesia $315 I've seen a lot of spammers from Indonesia. With just 50 posts per day they earn an average salary. If you're a bit efficient you can spam that in an hour. Now imagine doing 400 per day, you spend 8 hours and earn 8 average salaries! $2200 per month without paying taxes is a lot in most countries. Maybe market mechanisms will eventually take care of this: if enough "workers" offer their services to signature compaigns, they will lower their rates (lowering the spammers' revenue), or become more selective. Yobit for example stopped taking new applicants months ago, and they have thrown some people out of the campaign. Lol...can you please tell me the point of that photo?? And yes i agree, in many countries it seems that posting spam on these forums, if done efficiently, can earn you better than most jobs that are available to them. They're playing Runescape, so that you can be able to afford a blue partyhat. Since some people are too thick to understand satire, I meant, Runescape has similar gold farming sweatshops in Asian countries. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: renem on September 20, 2016, 10:53:13 AM I think they suspended account farming at the moment because of what happens on this forum last time , there are account are being active agian after a long time of being dead sorry for my words and those accounts are requesting loan.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on September 20, 2016, 11:39:40 AM Don't forget the accounts that Saddampbuh makes so that he can call people n*****s in the Politics and Society subsection, only to later auction the account.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 20, 2016, 04:33:36 PM I think they suspended account farming at the moment because of what happens on this forum last time , there are account are being active agian after a long time of being dead sorry for my words and those accounts are requesting loan. Sorry for this renem, but why come here? (bit off topic but hey, my thread) I suppose we bought into different monetary systems then, since my understanding going into it was different. I think that Bitcoin relies on the economic self-interest of the masses to govern consensus. I actually perceive Bitcoin as being the evolution of governance. Voluntary and decentralized non geographically bound governance, the evolution of the modern democracy if you will into something better and superior Bitcoin is not freedom, there are rules.. Bitcoin is trust. Or trustlessness for that matter.So whatever blockstream or anyone says, in Bitcoin I trust. Copy pasted from 2 opposing posters on the R3KT thread. I suppose we bought into different monetary systems then, since my understanding going into it was different. I think that Bitcoin relies on the economic self-interest of the masses to govern consensus. I actually perceive Bitcoin as being the evolution of governance. Voluntary and decentralized non geographically bound governance, the evolution of the modern democracy if you will into something better and superior. Bitcoin is not freedom, there are rules.. Bitcoin is trust. Or trustlessness for that matter. So whatever blockstream or anyone says, in Bitcoin I trust. I bet there are others? ... Oh yes, here's another. all people agree that bitcoin will not make bank disappear,the only possible thing is bitcoin will compete banks,and it start happen in this year,but some event will decide how long and how far bitcoin will make bank feel awfull with bitcoin existence. Normal banks wont disappear because of bitcoin banks is a multi million dollar investment and government have shares in it,do you think that the governments would allow such thing to happen? I don't think banks are going to disappear soon perhaps 200 years from now . But if we have support and everyone start to use bitcoin in daily life issues bitcoin soon will make fiat disappear not banks alone . Copy pasted from 3 other spammers. all people agree that bitcoin will not make bank disappear,the only possible thing is bitcoin will compete banks,and it start happen in this year,but some event will decide how long and how far bitcoin will make bank feel awfull with bitcoin existence. Normal banks wont disappear because of bitcoin banks is a multi million dollar investment and government have shares in it,do you think that the governments would allow such thing to happen? I don't think banks are going to disappear soon perhaps 200 years from now . But if we have support and everyone start to use bitcoin in daily life issues bitcoin soon will make fiat disappear not banks alone . Ok, 1 more then I'm done. Bitcoin is getting famous only in some specific countries. But mostly in all countries the growth of bitcoin community is not considerably keep on spreading. This is because of many bitcoiners are simply forgetting their responsibility of spreading bitcoin's to new people.Bitcoin is getting more and more famous and that is because there are now more people that will get to know about it so that is nice for the currency itself.t will be more famous this 2016 since many online markets are adopting it as a mode of payment for their products & services. I guess that by the end of 2016, bitcoin information will be spread in more cities around the world. Copy pasted from 3 other shitposters. Bitcoin is getting famous only in some specific countries. But mostly in all countries the growth of bitcoin community is not considerably keep on spreading. This is because of many bitcoiners are simply forgetting their responsibility of spreading bitcoin's to new people. Bitcoin is getting more and more famous and that is because there are now more people that will get to know about it so that is nice for the currency itself. It will be more famous this 2016 since many online markets are adopting it as a mode of payment for their products & services. I guess that by the end of 2016, bitcoin information will be spread in more cities around the world. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 20, 2016, 07:47:02 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641327 Ilikechineseefood (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred (171) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641342 FrannWilder (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641347 Fofofolo (110) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641360 italianobitcoin (284) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641367 maudevang (403) Lets look in more detail at their first posts. Ilikechineseefood Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 HilbillyFred Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 FrannWilder Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 Fofofolo Nov 9,13,16,16,16,16 italianobitcoin Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 maudevang Nov 9,13,13,13,13,13 (pretty much every other account in this registration time frame not mentioned here and not shown in the colour chart above, is a 0 or 1 post "dormant" account. see twitchyseals link to spreadsheet. there were 813 accounts registered in this time frame of 9 hours covering both attacks) Farmed? conclusive. 6 accounts, 1000 spam posts. carrying on, (several inactive, not listed, maybe banned or just dorment, then..) Nov 9, 5pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641387 Galiatram (286) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641391 Etaren (110) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641395 CoinsRoyal (338) Nov 10, 12.30pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude (368) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642838 InsideBjorn (442) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642848 Emersonnets (132) .... (dormant/banned) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean (241) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642854 Cozynunu (256) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642860 Adrorecia (246) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642862 nonontech (61) ..... (account rose from dormant very recently) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642873 Dwelach (324) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642881 Erzatium (278) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642882 Legoiniel (9) ..... (dormant/banned) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642898 Epicnicity (111) ..... (dormant/banned) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 22, 2016, 05:01:53 PM I'm adding 2 more. 1 from bbc. spammer list. These two accounts were created at the end of one of my previous lists. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665000 EastSound (177) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665001 EastBirth (22) *** bbc. spammer list Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 23, 2016, 07:50:41 PM Nov 12. 1.48pm.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647183 hungryFinest (22) nov 12,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647194 SpeedyCapo (21) nov 12,26 dec 10 jan 4,7,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647201 Friladon (23) nov 12,30 dec 11,23 jan 21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647205 BreakingSlow (21) nov 12,26 dec 10 jan 4,7,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647212 Ereacia (19) nov 12,30 dec 23 jan 8,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647233 Maxsumi (21) nov 12,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 Nov 13. 1.15pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648391 TravisNeko (20) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648404 DixieCrayon (23) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648435 Braeron (44) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648448 Cendassi (37) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648457 Ethalir (23) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648573 Drelav (20) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648577 Gliassa (21) nov 13,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 Nov 16. 9.46am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651655 HoshiPost (21) nov 16,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651660 Mirardowyn (22) nov 16,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651666 Pwerd (21) nov 16,26 dec 10 jan 4,7,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651671 Hedrilin (21) nov 16,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651685 Agraoclya (20) nov 16,30 dec 10 jan 4,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651686 Adaleon (62) nov 16,30 dec 10,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 Nov 17. 1.16pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653573 Dapallo (17) nov 17,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653585 Eroanwan (23) nov 17,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653591 Supebox (19) nov 17,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653600 Ocalebeth (22) nov 17,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653607 ConnAlt (17) nov 17,30 dec 11 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653617 Umigokath (20) nov 17,26 dec 10 jan 8,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653657 Bradexterb (43) nov 17,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653659 Dwetha (21) nov 17,30 dec 10 jan 4,8,21 feb 12,17 Nov 19. 9.55am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656722 Lesterexon (22) nov 19,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656731 Jaxelrell (20) nov 19,30 dec 23 jan 8,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656742 Hallseplex (22) nov 19,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656750 Evansloin (22) nov 19,30 dec 10 jan 4,7,21 feb 12,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656787 Aceanyth (47) nov 19,26,30 dec 10,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656820 Alauria (44) nov 19,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656831 Hilat (22) nov 19,30 dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656836 Gloiri (19) dec 11,23 jan 8,21 feb 10,17 All first post history are almost identical, amongst other things. All ranking up for sale or sig spamming. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 24, 2016, 05:20:41 AM I already made contact to more campaign managers showing them this thread. They will be shocked at what they will see here. The campaign of Secondstrade have been warned in public. I have seen that the campaign manager over there is not really strict in maintaining the quality of posts of their members.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 24, 2016, 06:19:40 PM The oldest list yet. The post totals reflect this. Nearly 8000 spam posts from 8 farmed accounts.
Notice the consecutive account numbers here. June 23. 12.22pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525056 BitMaxz (2958) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525057 CrimBit (1177) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 8,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525058 InvoKing (777) jun 25 jul 7,19,19 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525059 Corealz (208) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 8,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060 SirLancelot (209) jun 23, jul 7, aug 3,17 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525061 BlueStackz (461) jun 23 jul 7, aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525062 JumperX (2064) jun 23 jul 7 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525063 PizzaBTC (107) jun 23 jul 7 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: magemist on September 24, 2016, 07:11:37 PM The oldest list yet. The post totals reflect this. Nearly 8000 spam posts from 8 farmed accounts. I have seen BitMaxz around and SirLancelot is an alt of a signature campaign manager.Notice the consecutive account numbers here. June 23. 12.22pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525056 BitMaxz (2958) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525057 CrimBit (1177) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 8,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525058 InvoKing (777) jun 25 jul 7,19,19 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525059 Corealz (208) jun 23,25 jul 30, aug 8,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060 SirLancelot (209) jun 23, jul 7, aug 3,17 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525061 BlueStackz (461) jun 23 jul 7, aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525062 JumperX (2064) jun 23 jul 7 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525063 PizzaBTC (107) jun 23 jul 7 aug 3,17,29 sep 15,29 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 25, 2016, 02:46:17 PM I want to tidy up the bbc.spammer list a little more. (***bbc. spammer list)
Dec 1. 10.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** dec 1, 9, 20, jan 1,12,27, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) dec 1,10,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) dec 1,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) dec 3, 9, 20 jan 1,12,26, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) dec 3,10 ,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) dec 3,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 9 famed accounts, 3600 spam posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 26, 2016, 07:56:44 PM Nov 2 2015. 4.00pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628711 LarryHocks (517) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, 24 x 2, dec 14x 4, 21 x 11, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628722 Lokfar (536) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 14x 3, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628725 NewInCryptoCurrency (281) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4, 14x 4, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628729 Icathia (423) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 1 x 3, 18, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628731 RobinHoodster (428) nov 2, 10 x 3, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 18, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628735 Altcoinmoney (283) nov 2, 10 x 3, 19 x 6 dec 4 x 4, 14 x 4, 23 (e.g, 10 x 7 = 7 posts on 10th day of listed month) They have a shed-load of other obvious similarities in their posts, writing style and date of changes in writing style. (dec 14 here) 6 farmed accounts, all in sig campaign, so merrily spamming away for bitcoin, untroubled by mods or admin, 2400 spam posts. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 27, 2016, 03:32:41 AM What if some of the signature campaigns are working together with the click farmers? It would be a profitable proposal to both parties.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 27, 2016, 07:17:52 PM What if some of the signature campaigns are working together with the click farmers? It would be a profitable proposal to both parties. I think that is almost certainly happening. Why would it not. Several farmed accounts have or still do run these campaigns. Protected by the mods... Overseen by theymos... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 27, 2016, 09:19:58 PM Sept 1, 2015
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550948 pocarime32 (1895) aug 1, 13, 23, 29 sep 7, 14, oct 7, nov 1 x 3, 2 x 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550949 adibe (1631) aug 1, 13, 23, 29 sep 7, 14, oct 7, nov 1 x 3, 2 x 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550950 23dzmaz (1673) aug 1, 13, 23, 29 sep 7, 14, oct 7, nov 1, 2 x 2 5100 spam, crap, useless, unwanted, posts by 3 farmed accounts. Untroubled by "the mods" and "admin", "we dont allow spam", useless lying bunch of fucks. What the mods mean is they don't allow real people to spam. They don't want any competition. Only their own farmed accounts are free to spam as they wish. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Mr. Green on September 28, 2016, 08:17:27 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854913
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854918 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855553 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1298548.msg16393453#msg16393453 https://i.imgur.com/613mYDu.png https://i.imgur.com/ZIr5TEO.png Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on September 29, 2016, 06:45:22 PM The farmers are nicely lining up in this topic: Moscow - an enemy or a friend? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1630647.0). All the same signature, (about) the same number of posts, and (about) the same registration date.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 29, 2016, 06:56:19 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854913 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854918 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855553 Well spotted Mr. Green. Notice how they ALL have Wings signature ad? All are Russian. Not our regular farmer? I had a quick look at surrounding u=# June 5 2016, 9.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854900 Leprikon (112) wings campaign *ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854905 wavesroom (112) (different posts dates, i dont understand russian. ideas?) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854908 wowanstrong (105) wings campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854913 Sanekavg13 (116) wings campaign * mr green list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854914 igorokavg13 (111) wings campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854918 dimonchik13 (114) wings campaign * mr green list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854926 Kvazimoda (103) wings campaign June 6 2016, 7.20pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855550 birareru1988 (114) wings campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855551 daiyuba1971 (107) wings campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855552 nukihei1976 (56) applied for wings campaign. not accepted? hence lower post count? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855553 yuiyuga (104) wings campaign * mr green list Kvazimoda preferred France! Original post history's almost identical. By far the newest accounts listed so far. First time the account doesn't speak Philippine. (i am now looking at a some Chinese "wings" accounts) Does anyone know anything relevant about the wings campaign? The farmers are nicely lining up in this topic: Moscow - an enemy or a friend? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1630647.0). All the same signature, (about) the same number of posts, and (about) the same registration date. lol, first 3 posters "talking to each other" are on my list above. 2 of 3 on mr green list. (they quote each other a lot!) Then wings, wings, wings, wings, wings, wings, wings, ... looks like more of the same! Looking! After a 2 minute look, I can now see 2 more from my list, and the 3rd from Mr Green list. And I think 4 more as yet unlisted, but same farmer. That will be 9 out of 13 posters so far. (they got gentlemand surrounded) Yes, they are all the same farmer. Enrolling sessions on June 4, (5,6 above) another session on 6th, June 8 and June 10. I bet there are other sessions yet to find. Could be a few days before I post all these. Keep me posted! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on September 29, 2016, 10:00:11 PM Found this, Please exclude from your campaign this signature spammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854926 Kvazimoda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854900 Leprikon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=849161 eminem90 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855169 varyspro Reason is copy-pasting, low value posts. Also they will be banned on forum. (xandry - Staff - Hero Member) No sign of any bans from forum or campaign. All four accounts are still posting in wings sig campaign. (2 on my list above, the other 2 will be listed, with others, soon) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 04, 2016, 03:07:32 AM It would seem that Quickseller is going for broke farming UID's on an industrial scale now that they have all but stopped posting in their most prolific UID Alt. (thus far identified) - anyone else notice quickseller removed their signature some time between the 11th http://archive.is/FLt42 and 17th http://archive.is/Gz3Qu of September 2016?
@rizzlarolla in this thread has identified an unmistakeable pattern of UID farming Separately, I tied cdmacrunk and gentledan (amongst others) cdmacrunk -2: -1 / +0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628756 <-- Registered same day gentledan -2: -1 / +0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628778 <-- Registered same day to quickseller Alt deluxeCITY connected to Chichong, smit1237, adoell, cerals28, cdmacrunk, gentledan in this post: Scammer: DeluxeCITY https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1375577.msg16439735#msg16439735 and Known alts of anyone: User generated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16439954#msg16439954 thread post Just the fact quickseller has a proven history of creating multiple Alt's in a short time frame: 20 July 2014, 05:29:56 Date Registered: ACCTseller u=357263 20 July 2014, 06:40:20 Date Registered: deluxeCITY u=357282 21 July 2014, 01:31:08 Date Registered: Panthers52 u=357487 22 July 2014, 15:51:40 Date Registered: Quickseller u=358020 makes me wonder how many Alts there are out there? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 04, 2016, 03:24:37 AM Yes, it is allowed. As I suspected! However there are other "rules and vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce" that could cover this situation? Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." (from the "somewhat complete, unofficial list" at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 I'm not looking for someone with 2 alts. This is different. @rizzlarolla: Are you able to post a list of the UID's that match the pattern of Alt's of Quickseller that I identified in my post just now that cross matches your own research? How are you scraping this information from BCT? Surely you're not reading every post? Have you seen this thread: Quickseller escrowing for himself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0 which outlines how to scrape information from BCT to compare writing styles of various sample UID's? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 04, 2016, 07:45:54 PM Yes, it is allowed. As I suspected! However there are other "rules and vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce" that could cover this situation? Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." (from the "somewhat complete, unofficial list" at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 I'm not looking for someone with 2 alts. This is different. @rizzlarolla: Are you able to post a list of the UID's that match the pattern of Alt's of Quickseller that I identified in my post just now that cross matches your own research? How are you scraping this information from BCT? Surely you're not reading every post? Have you seen this thread: Quickseller escrowing for himself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0 which outlines how to scrape information from BCT to compare writing styles of various sample UID's? i looked at accounts from 19 july 2014. Not much going on, only these accounts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357261 redskins49 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357262 hibr3d https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357263 ACCTseller 1hr 10 min later, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357282 deluxeCITY https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357283 RobertDJ I think the post history shows connections. But they are all inactive at present. Banned or not? I have seen other account selling accounts previously but not included on my lists. I will include in future, for reference. (i will have a quick look back at my notes too. usually where a robert is involved, red ink is also present) I'm not sure that is what you wanted. If it is I will check the other alts. Or did you want me to connect QS to my listed farmed accounts? (which i cannot do atm, as i have not looked that closely at QS) We should cross reference where possible. If any account you identify as connected is already on my farmer list, it could prove through "probabilities" (equalling certainty) many more accounts in same connected control. click above The above post connects accounts (on alt thread) that I have also connected to others in separate lists. To my mind, this connects my lists together. The accounts connected to quoted post are the more valuable type, more personal ones, being ranked up for premium sale or trust scam. imo. If I remember, there was a lot of red ink just before jambolb/jambola joined which I omitted from my list for simplicity - checking. Why is satmas "helping" in the alt thread. He is on my farmed list? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 04, 2016, 08:24:56 PM carrying on, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 FruitBucket (245) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376 Omegasun (463) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639383 Blue_Panda73 (129) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639388 Posum578 (607) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG (232) did not post nov 22 ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639398 Jambolb2 (234) did not post nov 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399 Jimbola3 (342) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639406 Intristing (153) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639435 ultrloa (534) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639448 Alubert (109) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639563 andreld (203) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639573 onemd (148) Two weeks after registering and instantly first posting, second posts are made on Nov 22. All accounts here were created and first posted on Nov 8 in a similarly ordered fashion, but there was a near 3 hour gap in registration between Alubert and andreld which there is not on the second posting schedule shown below. All posts are minutes apart, and still in same order accounts were created. FruitBucket 9.15 am Omegasun 9.20 am Blue_Panda73 9.28 am Posum578 9.31 am Jimbola3 9.35 am Intristing 9.38 am Kollor 9.41 am RustyNoman 9.43 am freedomgo 9.47 am piloder 9.50 am ultrloa 9.57 am zend7 10.00 am Alubert 10.08 am ------------------------------- different registration times/lists come together for famers second post schedule. andreld 10.14 am onemd 10.16 am glerand 10.26 am listed in previous post coinyard 10.29 am listed in previous post posternat 10.31 am listed in previous post anthonydar 10.39 am listed in previous post mirakal 10.41 am listed in previous post Can't see how these can be anything but farmed accounts. *** bbc. spammer list This is how that list probably should look? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639359 Hodlerman -2: -1 / +0 (inactive. did shill USADoubleCoinCO scam) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639371 USADoubleCoinCO -4: -2 / +0 (inactive till post sept 2016, s not banned?) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 FruitBucket (245) *** #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639376 Omegasun (463) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639383 Blue_Panda73 (129) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639388 Posum578 (607) -2: -1 / +0 (already listed, but carrying red trust?) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG (232) ~~~://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639398 Jambolb2 (234) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639399 Jimbola3 (342) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639406 Intristing (153) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639414 Kollor (232) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639417 RustyNoman (174) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639420 freedomgo (1287) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639431 piloder (32) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639435 ultrloa (534) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639436 xpaybot -4: -2 / +0 (inactive since failed scam?) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639448 Alubert (109) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 05, 2016, 01:39:05 AM Quote Why is satmas "helping" in the alt thread. He is on my farmed list? I've actually found that some scammers will give up some alts to deflect attention away from other ones. Then again, perhaps this person has turned a new leaf and genuinely wants to help?? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 05, 2016, 05:03:43 AM Continuing where we left off from the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625183.40). Regarding the user:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10. No not everything is in my thread. emezh10 is not in my thread, yet. But I can see his other accounts. let me know if you want to know about them. Could you list the other accounts so that they can be looked into?Also I have two thoughts for this thread: 1) Could you compile all the links into one post somehow? From what I see they're spread out depending on when you find them. 2) What's up with some of those broken links starting with "#ttps"? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 05, 2016, 09:16:27 AM I identified Alts of
Quote #ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) and posted the results in the "known Alts of..." thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16179459#msg16179459 and the "main" account holder BitcoinSupremo u=754727 first denied the connection http://archive.is/Uf2Rn#selection-8559.0-8578.1 , then admitted that zend7 is one of their Alts. http://archive.is/Uf2Rn#selection-9929.0-9888.7 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 05, 2016, 06:28:53 PM Continuing where we left off from the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625183.40). Regarding the user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10. No not everything is in my thread. emezh10 is not in my thread, yet. But I can see his other accounts. let me know if you want to know about them. Could you list the other accounts so that they can be looked into?Also I have two thoughts for this thread: 1) Could you compile all the links into one post somehow? From what I see they're spread out depending on when you find them. 2) What's up with some of those broken links starting with "#ttps"? I am only listing 4 accounts to start, I will add more to this at some point. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836340 jam1nut0 (80) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10 (116) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836343 rockpaper7 (50) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836345 whimusbante1 (50) Would you let me know your thoughts or actions please. My complete list of farmed accounts is on the previous page, big long list over 300 accounts, you cant miss it! I update it from time to time, and move it forward. I broke the links to highlight the new names I added to an old list, but also I break the link on previously mentioned accounts so that it is less confusing! If the link is not broken, it is the first mention of that account and therefore the explanation of reasons why it is listed. If you wanted to click the broken links, they should be live in the original post I quoted? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 05, 2016, 06:46:50 PM Posting this here from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.1080 (so i dont forget to add to the main list) Looking at the first post history's, we can conclude the same ownership. Sept 29, 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558220 stellgod (78) sep 29x2, oct 6x2,21 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558226 redsun114 (495) sep 29x2, oct 6x2,22 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558231 gtglener (467) sep 29x2, oct 6x2 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558233 jostorres (311) sep 29 oct 6x2,23 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,13x12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558236 super5star (67) sep 29x2, oct 6x2,22 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558237 martha5dool (119) sep 29 oct 6, 23 nov 6,15 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558240 jonatuzc (207) sep 29x2, oct 7,23 nov 6,16 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558247 garmerys (123) sep 29x2, oct 7,23 nov 7,16 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558251 kateryana81 (109) sep 29 oct 7,23 nov 7,17 dec 6,21 jan 2,13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558253 katrimans (538) sep 29x3, oct 7,27 nov 7,17 dec 6,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558268 richkellj (360) sep 29 oct 7,23 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558277 maricampos (8.) sep 29 oct 7,23 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558280 natalieneo (25) sep 29x2 oct 7,23 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 2,13x11 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558287 nelsledma (43) sep 29 oct 8,23 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558289 pureclckr (75) sep 29 oct 8,23 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 2,16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558297 lawhence (23) sep 29 oct 8,27 nov 7,17 dec 7,21 jan 2,11 March 27 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812240 Daisy14 (158) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812245 Dank14 (143) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812251 Das (340) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812256 Dinki (136) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 05, 2016, 10:27:08 PM I am only listing 4 accounts to start, I will add more to this at some point. After quickly looking at the accounts I can say that their behavior and posts seem to be similar. Cyrus is likely the only one who can confirm whether they truly are connected or not, although I'd say that they are. I obviously can't take any actions myself, but they deserve a permanent ban on sight. I can only take action against such newbies and I did find a decent group today.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836340 jam1nut0 (80) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10 (116) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836343 rockpaper7 (50) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836345 whimusbante1 (50) Would you let me know your thoughts or actions please. My complete list of farmed accounts is on the previous page, big long list over 300 accounts, you cant miss it! I update it from time to time, and move it forward. I've looked around the thread, but wasn't sure whether all information was in a singular post.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Viyamore on October 11, 2016, 01:39:50 PM I am wondering on this accounts why they are still on sign campaigns or some of this accounts are being sold to other users.
What will happen on them ? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 11, 2016, 02:08:36 PM I had these pointed out to me tonight:
Code: 18346 nyteo : 05 June 2011, 12:07:33 : Today at 18:04:51 The first one I flagged more than three months ago: Quote nyteo u=18346 is an Alt of PHS u=764988 ( -7: -3 / +1 ) with Wallet Address 18n8VzEWC4jE9xRvJUXbD3vAweEak5chzc [000001e522] The second one has an interesting Red Paint TM: Quote OldScammerTag 110: -0 / +11 2014-05-13 0.00000000 Reference This person was given a scammer tag by a forum administrator prior to the existence of the trust system. This means that they were either a proven scammer, someone linked to a proven scammer by IP evidence, or someone with an account likely compromised by a known scammer. However, this information is very old and maybe not 100% accurate, so use this rating as only part of your trust judgement. The third yields nothing of interest so far... Then the fourth one ayesha98211 ... has an uncanny link to the fifth one ... sana9826 Code: Name: sana98211 u=46466 who I flagged a month ago: Code: Timelord2067 29: -0 / +4 2016-09-14 0.00000000 Reference Tried to sell a watch via BCT after a three year absence. (activity just eight) When others questioned the authenticity OP fell silent and hasn't been back online in the ten plus weeks since. So I put 98211 into the search of BCT Members and got this: Code: Offline sana98211 Newbie 2011-11-21 8 9018 Yields: Code: Offline iram9018 ZXP Series 8 Dual Sided Newbie 2012-04-25 24 9847: Code: Offline aysha9847 Brand new 2012-02-13 0 um Code: Offline umair9829 Member 2012-04-06 72 What's truly shocking is that in ten days in 2011 from the 5th to 15th of June 2011, five thousand UID's were registered - that's a lot of Zombie UID's. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 11, 2016, 02:15:36 PM Code: Offline sana98211 Newbie 2011-11-21 8 Code: Offline ayesha98170 Sr. Member 2011-05-13 252 Code: Offline nor9845 Фopyм c oплaтoй пocтoв в биткoинax Hero Member 2012-05-22 2439 Code: Offline iram901 Hummer Limo New York Brand new 2012-04-04 0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 11, 2016, 02:22:49 PM What's interesting about these accounts is the Australian theme that runs through their descriptions.
Can we see what their IP's reveal about them? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 12, 2016, 12:07:59 PM There are literally five pages of UID's with
Code: xiaoxia in their user name. (And, it's hard to say if they are all Zombie Alts TM or not) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: AGD on October 12, 2016, 04:05:45 PM I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already.
In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 Code: bugmenot Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on October 12, 2016, 05:16:56 PM I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already. If I am a signature spammer, my campaign manager guitarplinker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=95740) has a small reward (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950982.msg10411272#msg10411272) for your efforts if you report me to him.In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 Code: LoyceV Unless I'm on your list because you just add everybody who has a signature of course. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 12, 2016, 11:34:27 PM Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/2cXDi#selection-12776.1-18507.86
I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already. In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 -<*SNIP*>- Here ya go - I've taken the liberty of turning your list into one Alpha Numeric list for you. Code: --Encrypted-- Can you now please point to which UID's you concider to be involved in account farming? The name of the thread is ( Re: Account farming. Allowed? ) after all... ::) Given Danny's posts you are quoting from are in sequence, did you use https://www.random.org/lists/ to mix them up a bit? If you had a signature, I would have asked you "what's the point of your list?" I don't believe your post is on topic. Randomising the list of 2,721 UID's used 84,351 bits of randomness - well below their free daily usage of 1,000,000 bits of randomness. Code: Your IP address: 123.456.789.012 Oh - and in answer to your post, Code: LoyceV is not on Danny Hamilton's list, not even in the "I have removed these users from the list" list. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: DarkStar_ on October 12, 2016, 11:43:40 PM I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already. If I am a signature spammer, my campaign manager guitarplinker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=95740) has a small reward (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950982.msg10411272#msg10411272) for your efforts if you report me to him.In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 Code: LoyceV Unless I'm on your list because you just list everybody who has a signature of course. Yahoo doesn't offer a bounty for spam finding, though feel free to report me to him and see how well your accusation goes. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Bear Wire on October 13, 2016, 12:19:00 AM So much evidence on here. Everything you guys have gathered to convict someone if this one in an actual case. But, looking into what is happening in this forum, it seems no one is doing anything to solve the problem. I'm just relatively new in here, the situation, however, sounds very grim in my opinion. All we, forum users, could do is just to rant and complain. From my browsing of the forums, I don't see anyone getting punished for professional spamming and account farming. I guess the admins are for how things are going here. Well, fighting spam is a fight we all cannot beat if no administrator would create a system for it.
For me and the likes of every other member that's here just to read some useful information and me, it is a struggle to read forum content when there are so many pages to each thread. I mean, for example, I'd like to read about a thread regarding bitcoin mining, will take me hours and hours of reading just to get the gist of it. I'd have to read too many pages just to get to the juicy parts of the topic. Because every spamming account farmer just wants to argue with their own accounts is posting in the same thread. This situation is not a generalization but is only to prove a point. I hope admins get to define a system of posting and disallow account farming. For the good of this community. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 13, 2016, 01:48:20 AM Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/2cXDi#selection-12776.1-18507.86 I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already. In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 -<*SNIP*>- Here ya go - I've taken the liberty of turning your list into one Alpha Numeric list for you. Code: --Encrypted-- Can you now please point to which UID's you concider to be involved in account farming? The name of the thread is ( Re: Account farming. Allowed? ) after all... ::) Given Danny's posts you are quoting from are in sequence, did you use https://www.random.org/lists/ to mix them up a bit? If you had a signature, I would have asked you "what's the point of your list?" I don't believe your post is on topic. Randomising the list of 2,721 UID's used 84,351 bits of randomness - well below their free daily usage of 1,000,000 bits of randomness. Code: Your IP address: 123.456.789.012 Oh - and in answer to your post, Code: LoyceV is not on Danny Hamilton's list, not even in the "I have removed these users from the list" list. I'm lost. What's happening here? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Bear Wire on October 13, 2016, 02:09:12 AM Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/2cXDi#selection-12776.1-18507.86 I have added Danny Hamilton's ignore list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 , which gets rid of many of the sig spammers already. In addition I am adding more on a daily basis. Date: Oct 12 2016 -<*SNIP*>- Here ya go - I've taken the liberty of turning your list into one Alpha Numeric list for you. Code: --Encrypted-- Can you now please point to which UID's you concider to be involved in account farming? The name of the thread is ( Re: Account farming. Allowed? ) after all... ::) Given Danny's posts you are quoting from are in sequence, did you use https://www.random.org/lists/ to mix them up a bit? If you had a signature, I would have asked you "what's the point of your list?" I don't believe your post is on topic. Randomising the list of 2,721 UID's used 84,351 bits of randomness - well below their free daily usage of 1,000,000 bits of randomness. Code: Your IP address: 123.456.789.012 Oh - and in answer to your post, Code: LoyceV is not on Danny Hamilton's list, not even in the "I have removed these users from the list" list. I'm lost. What's happening here? I believe, they are trying to fight off spammers and account farmers. Also, blocking known spammers so they won't show up on their PCs. Well, I hope there would be some actions from the admins tho. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: AGD on October 13, 2016, 07:52:46 AM These ignore lists include most accounts with a paid signature (and also maybe some false positives, sorry guys), because most people behind these accounts are not trying to actually contribute content, but their goal is to make their signatures be visible on almost every page of almost every topic. If you want to randomize it ( i would use sort -R btw) or put it in alphabetic order or whatever, feel free to do that. It's open source....
I think this is on topic, because it's all about the low quality of postings created by people, that are only here to make money with this forum and nothing else. People that don't like account farming might also not like sig spamming, so they can simply add these lists "to improve their browsing experience" (quote: Danny Hamilton) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Bear Wire on October 13, 2016, 03:32:49 PM These ignore lists include most accounts with a paid signature (and also maybe some false positives, sorry guys), because most people behind these accounts are not trying to actually contribute content, but their goal is to make their signatures be visible on almost every page of almost every topic. If you want to randomize it ( i would use sort -R btw) or put it in alphabetic order or whatever, feel free to do that. It's open source.... I think this is on topic, because it's all about the low quality of postings created by people, that are only here to make money with this forum and nothing else. People that don't like account farming might also not like sig spamming, so they can simply add these lists "to improve their browsing experience" (quote: Danny Hamilton) If this was the intent, then possibly the problem is the signature itself. Is it not? Since people just try to use them to get money and as a result, they just keep on spamming every chance they get. What do you guys think? Is the signature the problem? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 13, 2016, 08:11:31 PM I had these pointed out to me tonight: snip.. The first one I flagged more than three months ago: snip.. The second one has an interesting Red Paint TM: snip.. The third yields nothing of interest so far... Then the fourth one ayesha98211 ... has an uncanny link to the fifth one ... sana9826 Code: Name: sana98211 u=46466 What's truly shocking is that in ten days in 2011 from the 5th to 15th of June 2011, five thousand UID's were registered - that's a lot of Zombie UID's. Took me a while to see the uncanny connection, 982...! I would like to presume these are almost all zombie accounts, as it seems a bit pointless and silly to create many accounts with the same name if the farmer actually wanted to use or sell these. I would expect zero post accounts. Many have been in use at some point though, and are not zero post. I see some on your list post this year, after 2 years absence. without thoroughly checking, they do appear to be owned by 1 farmer. I've seen thousands of zombie accounts similar to above - almost same name (60,000 new members in 1 month) Lauda told me many of the zombie accounts I found were banned. (see bbc reporter post a spammer thread previously linked) However, it was probably a very small insignificant percentage. We are not allowed see who is or is not banned. I would suggest theymos locked all these obvious zombie farmed accounts. But there would be no response. Not interested. While all other admin/mods run around saying they are fighting spam and low quality. No help here. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 13, 2016, 08:22:32 PM I'm guessing most of these cases of tons of accounts were created by spam bots for SEO reasons. Then they got hacked and sold.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 13, 2016, 08:41:04 PM I am wondering on this accounts why they are still on sign campaigns or some of this accounts are being sold to other users. What will happen on them ? Sure you are. I want to tidy up the bbc.spammer list a little more. (***bbc. spammer list) Dec 1. 10.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** 9 famed accounts, 3600 spam posts. So, how do you fit in? Nov 30, 9.30 am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670721 Tagcibat (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670726 Viyamore (817) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670737 Watjila (23) Lets look at your post history, Viyamore nov 30, dec 10, 21, jan 2, 14, 27, feb 8, Exactly the same as Bepesand and Fatanut. Farmed in 3's, accounts created same time consecutive days, posted in rota. Looks to me I may have missed some accounts here. Alphabet list missing a few letters? Viyamore - you are a part of this mass farming. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 13, 2016, 08:59:04 PM These ignore lists include most accounts with a paid signature ... I've mentioned Danny's list in the earlier pages. (1,2,3,4) His list does not pick up pre sig farmed accounts in the process of ranking up. It probably includes some real people who are not really spamming. Using the list is like wearing a blindfold. It is not addressing the bigger picture. Genuine newbies will not be using Danny's list. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Tyrantt on October 13, 2016, 10:16:42 PM http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vidyavidya/images/2/2d/Nofun_robot.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110513151242
Because you can't give a few word answer even tho it would be appropriate to do so. Should everyone Write a three page essay just for one topic reply, get ya heads out of your asses. I see spammers all the time and I don't care, I just don't pay that much attention to them, deal with it... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 14, 2016, 01:31:30 AM Because you can't give a few word answer even tho it would be appropriate to do so. Should everyone Write a three page essay just for one topic reply, get ya heads out of your asses. I see spammers all the time and I don't care, I just don't pay that much attention to them, deal with it... OOps you just burned your account. Go pay back your loans scumbag. Name: Tyrantt Posts: 832 Activity: 294 Position: Sr. Member Date Registered: December 14, 2015, 02:02:18 AM Last Active: Today at 06:33:29 PM Email: hidden Website: Current Status: Offline Offline Bitcoin address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX Is this campaighn still available? I've filled out the form a few moments ago. post count:233 btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX Yes, definitely. traktorista have been using this address 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.msg12730279#msg12730279) for signature campaign and what he said "brother" is actually himself. Liers! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.msg12730279#msg12730279 Quote from: traktorista Id like to enroll Posts: 17 activity: 17 btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX Signed up as Tyrantt, btc address 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX :D Also, forum really seems nice, I think I might even hang out there. I'd like to join. Ill post here too: starting post: 353 btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX I am currently holding his account as collateral. This is tx:https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/dbf878723436d3da6fba61ab43b8fe3429694551f16118086cf3884f29e4dcdb Quote Btc amount: 0.09btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX interest: 40% (I can send you weekly, so that 8$ for 4-5 weeks) that would be 28$ for a total repay Thank you very much. Please repay to for each installment: 1xWop24MSPuYeWZ53Fo6YzJsHvMjr4EYM They will be scheduled at next 4 weeks: 9 June, 16 June, 23 June, 30 June. At fifth week, if you pay full amount of each installment ( 8$ equivalent of Bitcoin amount) at previous four weeks, I will return the account to you! Thanks! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 04:46:53 PM Dec 23, 8.15pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704032 BattleField (25) dec 23, jan 4, 16, 29, feb 11, 24, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041 Caladonian (2659) dec 23, jan 5, 17, 30 feb 10, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704045 Daffadile (1342) dec 23, jan 6, 18, 31, feb 11, 24, Same alphabet farmer. Group of 3 accunts again. Posting in rota. 4000 posts. Super spammers. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 05:12:16 PM Latest summary of listed farmed account profiles. Updated Oct 14. (some time periods/spam counts are now outdated/yet to be edited)
378 farmed accounts. June 23. 12.22pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525056 BitMaxz (2958) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525057 CrimBit (1177) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525058 InvoKing (777) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525059 Corealz (208) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060 SirLancelot (209) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525061 BlueStackz (461) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525062 JumperX (2064) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525063 PizzaBTC (107) Sept 1, 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550948 pocarime32 (1895) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550949 adibe (1631) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550950 23dzmaz (1673) September 07, 2015, 06:55:21 PM - September 07, 2015, 07:49:26 PM Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. 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02:07:58 PM Time scale 2 hours. 23 farmed accounts, 1150 spam posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669117 Kepariy (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669119 Lavavest (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669122 Mulzatas (85) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669123 Nadicona (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669124 Pasutinmeur (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128 Ruhtilg (89) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669131 Sidtamfia (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669134 Tafbiat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669137 Vixmore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669140 Washika (303) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669141 Xavofat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669142 Yauthitdar (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669143 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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM timescale 2.5 hours. 13 farmed accounts, 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) March 27 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812240 Daisy14 (158) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812245 Dank14 (143) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812251 Das (340) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812256 Dinki (136) May 4, 2016, 12.50pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836340 jam1nut0 (80) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10 (116) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836343 rockpaper7 (50) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836345 whimusbante1 (50) June 5 2016, 9.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854900 Leprikon (112) *ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854905 wavesroom (112) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854908 wowanstrong (105) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854913 Sanekavg13 (116) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854914 igorokavg13 (111) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854918 dimonchik13 (114) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854926 Kvazimoda (103) jne 6, 2016, 7.20pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855550 birareru1988 (114) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855551 daiyuba1971 (107) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855552 nukihei1976 (56) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855553 yuiyuga (104) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 06:32:02 PM Sept 16, 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555318 jak3 (434) sep 16, oct 2, 23x4, nov 23 dec 14 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555321 jak4 (14) sep 16, oct 2, 23, nov 23 dec 18 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555326 data1 (68) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 18 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555330 raj1 (34) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555332 krishna1 (431) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 14 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555335 boby-1 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 15 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555336 boby-2 (9) sep oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 15 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555346 boby-3 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 15 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555348 rik1 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 16 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555351 rik2 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 16 jan 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555353 rik3 (63) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23, Seems the farmer does use the same names, just changing 1,2,3! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 07:43:31 PM I decided to remove all users with 9 posts or less or with most recent activity May 30, 2016 or earlier. In other words, I'm only going to be looking at Users with 10+ posts who have logged on at least once since June. That leaves us with 356 of the original 23,932 users responsible for 53,358 of the total 65,278 posts. Total accounts created by date: https://i.gyazo.com/08f68d3f4b90fc2fd79c8d6276fd36fc.png Ok, now we can look back at this chart from Twitchyseal, comparing it to my listed farmed accounts. 11/8 i have listed 22 farmed accounts 11/9 i have listed 13 farmed accounts 11/10 i have listed 11 farmed accounts 11/11 i have listed 0 farmed accounts 11/12 i have listed 6 farmed accounts 11/13 i have listed 7 farmed accounts 11/14 i have listed 4 farmed accounts 11/15 i have listed 0 farmed accounts 11/16 i have listed 6 farmed accounts 11/17 i have listed 8 farmed accounts 11/18 i have listed 0 farmed accounts 11/19 i have listed 8 farmed accounts 11/20 i have listed 4 farmed accounts 11/21 i have listed 0 farmed accounts 11/22 i have listed 16 farmed accounts 11/23 i have listed 37 farmed accounts total......................142 farmed accounts Twitchyseal's chart shows 350 accounts registered and still active in the last 3 months I have shown 142 of those to be farmed. So, 40% of those accounts are farmed. bear in mind - I have not found all famed accounts. On 4 days i did not find any farmed accounts. The chart shows 5, 3, 21 and 12 registered on those days. The farmer clearly did not work on the first two 0 days, probably i have not found him yet from the third 0 day, Could be either way on forth 0 day How clear is this, the farmer takes 2 days off, only 8 real people joined bct and are, or were still active here in the last 3 months It gets worse i think. In the next 8 days after this chart, 11/24/2015 - 12/1/2015, i have listed exactly another 142 farmed accounts. That is a period of half the time of this graph of 16 days! I do not have the total still active number from this period, but if it is the same daily average of real members, then farmed accounts make up 60% of new active users. Us few real accounts are outnumbered. It is not something that can be ignored. Theymos and his crew do nothing though. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: EcuaMobi on October 14, 2016, 08:09:52 PM These ignore lists include most accounts with a paid signature (and also maybe some false positives, sorry guys) Unfortunately much more than half of the list are false positives, so you can't really use it. It's like ignoring a great quantity of random users. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 14, 2016, 11:56:36 PM Latest summary of listed farmed account profiles. Updated Oct 14. (some time periods/spam counts are now outdated/yet to be edited) 378 farmed accounts. Nov 8. 11.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479) I thought BitcoinSupremo was just saying they'd bought zend7, however, it may really have been bought (doesn't change the fact it's now their Alt ::) ) Why not be honest, I have the accounts smho_16, zend7 and Cereberus. Yes I bought them to enter in signature campaigns as I am not spamming in anyway in those signatures but posting only constructive posts in all of them. I believe in honesty and buying of accounts is allowed to enter signatures. If I lose the accounts that's no problem as I already got more than what I paid for from all the signatures. Nevertheless I offer them a wonderful promotion and I hope to be part of them now that I didn't invent a like like I sold the wallet. I could have denied again and bought other accounts and will not have done again the same mistake to put addresses from the same wallets but would have used multibit classic as it shows as single wallet. I want to clear though that I am in no way connected to any scammer and morocco.man and 10to1270 are in no way my accounts, didn't scam anyone here and don't plan to. I hope the managers of the campaigns will understand. I can fully understand if they want to kick me just for having an alt account enrolled in their signatures. I think owning accounts is not a crime, so that is my explanation to that transaction id. I want now to thank Timelord67 for his effort of uncovering the buying of accounts which I repeat is not a crime but I also thank him as now I know not to use one single wallet like electrum for all of my transactions. You can add my alt accounts in the hall of fame of this thread. Negatives are not welcome as I didn't scam or spam the forum. My posts are lets say constructive to 70-80% of the time. But accusing me of being morocco.man or 10to1270 which I don't even know who they are this is totally unacceptable. I hope honestly would be appreciated although at a very late and crucial point. Perhaps if we could work out where BitcoinSupremo bought it from, that might give us a who is doing all of this. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 15, 2016, 10:01:50 AM *edit* post moved to the Spambots thread - will remove this post in a few days time.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 15, 2016, 10:04:43 AM This account is online right now:
https://i.gyazo.com/35a7834a6266ad12e436e99d6bf1fcfe.png But his last post was on: May 31, 2013, 02:24:21 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59051 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 15, 2016, 07:48:10 PM Just trying to catch up , Apr 13, 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505529 Greenenergy (242) may 11, 26, jun 4, 17, jul 4, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505530 Windpower (461) may 12, 26, jun 4, jul 4, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505533 Maskedman (133) may 13, 26, jun 4x2 jul 5, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505534 Honestman (13) may 13, 26, jun 5x2 jul 21, aug 18, Nov 3, 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630500 Sandroxa (555) nov 3, 13x5, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630501 DuckKeeper (572) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630509 BombayChicken (265) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630510 ElpadroBitcoin (471) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x5, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630521 JeanMcCoy (364) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630528 JohnyWalkerUK (77) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630531 Chrismeister (425) nov 3, 12x4, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630534 DavidoAlto (379) nov 3, 12x4, 30 dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 16, 2016, 09:11:11 PM Some new accounts here,
Apr 28, 2016. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833636 hope4ever (19) jun 6,20 jul 4 aug 2,16,16,30 sep 27, oct 10, today x 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833637 classic bit (19) jun 6,20 jul 4,19 aug 2,16, 30 sep 27, oct 10, today x 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833642 bit future (8 ) jun 6,20 jul 19 aug 2,16, 30 sep 27, oct 10, ..waiting... I am just waiting for 10 posts to be made on "bit future" account. I'm guessing next 24 hours. Hope he doesn't see this first! It was this post by hope4ever that drew my attention, signature campaign is really a good way of making bitcoin but it depend on the policy of the signature campaign and your rank that how much can you receive for your posting, if your rank is high the you will really get a good amount of bitcoin from signature campaign. Completely off topic irrelevant, pointless, barely legible drivel - like all posts from all three of these farmed accounts! Even if mods are not targeting multi accounts directly, i would like to know how this is not zero quality spam. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: awesome31312 on October 16, 2016, 11:23:00 PM When I used to cheat in online games using multiple accounts, I used Multi-fox, and lots of VPNs. It's pretty easy nowadays to be running multiple sessions of different accounts in different tabs, this can be good/bad (Good for online game cheating, bad because it can be used to spam)
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 17, 2016, 11:41:27 AM Nov 2 2015. 4.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628711 LarryHocks (517) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, 24 x 2, dec 14x 4, 21 x 11, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628722 Lokfar (536) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 14x 3, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628725 NewInCryptoCurrency (281) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4, 14x 4, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628729 Icathia (423) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 1 x 3, 18, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628731 RobinHoodster (428) nov 2, 10 x 3, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 18, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628735 Altcoinmoney (283) nov 2, 10 x 3, 19 x 6 dec 4 x 4, 14 x 4, 23 (e.g, 10 x 7 = 7 posts on 10th day of listed month) They have a shed-load of other obvious similarities in their posts, writing style and date of changes in writing style. (dec 14 here) 6 farmed accounts, all in sig campaign, so merrily spamming away for bitcoin, untroubled by mods or admin, 2400 spam posts. Here are another 6 accounts created 3 hours earlier the same day, by the same farmer. 6 accounts created and first posted in 15 minutes. Nov 2 2015, 12.50pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628348 bitcoinhopper (576) nov 2, 7x15, 19 dec 1x4, 2x9, 14x4, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628359 Altcoinsupporter (596) nov 2, 9x7, 16x5, dec 1x3, 14x4, 23 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628362 FabioDelcatto (486) nov 2, 9x7, 16x5, dec 7x2, 14x4, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628366 BitsandBites (675) nov 2, 9x7, 17x5, 24x6, dec 14x4, 21x6, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628367 GermanFoobla (528) nov 2, 8x26, 19, 24x2, dec 14x4, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628372 NordicRanger (390) nov 2, 9x7, 20, dec 1x4, 14x4, 23, All 6 accounts went on to post next on jan 7, and on jan 20. (except GermanFoobla missed jan 7, only posted jan 20) All 6 accounts listed in my quote went on to post next jan 7 and jan 20 as their next 2 posts. (except Altcoinmoney missed jan 7, posted jan 15, 20) Same general change in writing style as mentioned in quote. Added, Sept 27 2015 4.15pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605296 Ulloa (593) ........dec 23, jan 7, 20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605302 Skaven (228) ........dec 23, jan 15, 20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605307 Piltover (682) ........dec 23, jan 7, 20 I've left out the first few posts, but as you can see they also post dec 23, going on to post next jan 7 and 20. (except Skaven, jan 15 and 20, just like Altcoinmoney above) In amongst this list of 3 (between Skaven and Piltover) Cuidler registered - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605305 He wears a sig but is not farmed. Different posting dates, decent quality post. Bitcoiners know humans cant do random. :D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 17, 2016, 03:14:34 PM Ok, a new alphabet list. Accounts created Jan 10 2016.
(leading from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.340 ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721299 Enternity (21) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721369 Facinat (20) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721379 Gataway (20) jan 18, 31, feb 10, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721390 Hamliss (20) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 11, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721405 Iranus (22) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721427 Jasmint (20) jan 10, 18, 31, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721443 Kenid (47) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 31, apr 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 Lintel (21) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721487 Mastker (23) jan 10, 18, 31, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721522 Natweast (20) jan 10, 16, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721555 Oilacris (132) jan 10, 17, 31, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721581 Pasnik (20) jan 10, 29, feb 11, 24, mar 8, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721605 Qinetik (20) jan 10, 17, 31, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721609 Reatim (20) jan 10, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21, The farmer spent 5 and half hours creating these, but they stick out like a sore thumb. In that 5 and half hour, 310 accounts were created in total. 14 are active farmed accounts, (above) 9 are active real accounts, (active within 3 months) 14 are inactive real accounts (not posted in 3 months) 273 are zero post dormant accounts. The 9 active real accounts post counts are 3, 9, 21, 1, 1, 3, 106, 2, 2. As you can see, they don't post much. The 14 real but inactive post counts 1, 12, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 24, 3, 18, 30, 2, 1, 1. They didn't last long. Probably driven away by the farmed account spammers drivel. As we can see, 14 farmed accounts verses 9 real (just about) active accounts. The farmer never quits. All these accounts are ranked up ready to start serious sig spamming, as Oilacris account has. Added first post history's, they will link in with my next post. Also, big thanks to Twitchyseal. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:22:15 PM Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen) He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts. Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account? U=299272 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 18, 2016, 10:43:08 PM Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen) He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts. Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account? U=299272 There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=299272;sa=showPosts how do you figure they were deleted? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:45:57 PM Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen) He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts. Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account? U=299272 There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=299272;sa=showPosts how do you figure they were deleted? Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? ??? Am I missing something here? Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: DarkStar_ on October 19, 2016, 12:44:43 AM Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? ??? Am I missing something here? The archive (https://archive.is/7AvFm) works (shows the actual amount of posts). Try refreshing a few times or switching browsers, as I've had glitches where I clicked on a thread/view users posts and no posts or only the first (top) post shows. Weird glitch.Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: cpfreeplz on October 19, 2016, 01:01:45 AM Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? ??? Am I missing something here? The archive (https://archive.is/7AvFm) works (shows the actual amount of posts). Try refreshing a few times or switching browsers, as I've had glitches where I clicked on a thread/view users posts and no posts or only the first (top) post shows. Weird glitch.Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from. I still only see the one post! Idk. Ohhhh, the rest are in chinese! Maybe I have the board that they post on blocked so I can't see their posts? Does that happen?? That would make sense I guess. http://i68.tinypic.com/w82pog.png Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: botany on October 19, 2016, 01:03:09 AM Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen) He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts. Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account? U=299272 There have been users selling multiple forum accounts openly, when it was more profitable. I didn't see the admins taking action against them then and I don't see that happening now. Only if one of those accounts were spamming would action be taken upon them. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Milkduds on October 20, 2016, 05:55:03 PM I came across a few curious accounts that follow the same formula of copy&pasting a story with a link but never coming back to the thread they started or getting involved in a discussion. Have started to make a habit of checking post history of lower accounts and now I have come across 3 in the last 24 hours that do this.
Now would this be considering farming? One of these accounts started out posting but it was obvious they had very poor English and reverted to this formula after not even 5 posts. Examples: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=906856 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202096 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883987 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 20, 2016, 10:33:52 PM I came across a few curious accounts that follow the same formula of copy&pasting a story with a link but never coming back to the thread they started or getting involved in a discussion. Have started to make a habit of checking post history of lower accounts and now I have come across 3 in the last 24 hours that do this. Now would this be considering farming? One of these accounts started out posting but it was obvious they had very poor English and reverted to this formula after not even 5 posts. Examples: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=906856 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202096 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883987 I think a farmed account must be shown to belong to a group of accounts with 1 owner, as I have shown with my "alphabet" lists, and my "repeat" lists. (many of my lists also connect together showing 1 farmer openly owning and shitposting 100's of accounts) Multiple accounts created for spamming, scamming or selling. So, although your listed accounts maybe "farming" their own accounts, until they are connected to many others, they are not "farmed accounts", imo. As you say, these accounts post pure copy paste with link, no discussion/viewpoint, never return to thread. Spamming the discussion forum. At least they should post in press, that is all they post, a press snippet. Shit-posting for sure. I think it is a moderation issue. However, with all the hundreds of farmed accounts, I don't think mods can see the wood for the trees. Added - I called Posternut out in July here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570223.msg15762562#msg15762562 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 20, 2016, 11:29:20 PM Same farmer. Same alphabet lists.
Jan 4, 2016. 8.00m https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=715343 Kelvinid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=715346 Lucentar (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=715350 Matkurb Matkurb (22) Jan 5, 2016. 10.00m https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=716526 Naughtid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=716533 Ossidalm (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=716545 Pastonia (21) Jan 9, 2016. 9.00m https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720626 Xiestar (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720637 Yutard (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720641 Zitudent (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720643 Almat (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720648 Bustart (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720652 Catmony (90) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720657 Dagmon (21) Jan 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726851 Wefud (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726858 Xember (19) Jan 16, 2016. 11.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729496 Alpinat (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729501 Batmain (18) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729508 Catlonid (40) Jan 19, 2016. 5.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=733302 Documan (18) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=733312 Eugenar (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=733325 Faxmate (19) Added Jan 14. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: MyBTT on October 21, 2016, 12:19:49 AM Account farming is not necessarily against the rules per se, however it's looked down upon. Could get you banned, if you take it to far.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Decoded on October 21, 2016, 12:20:43 AM This is why i'm trying to get more active on forum.bitcoin.com.
No real spammers, no trolls, no farmers, great and friendly mods, and much much more. They even have signature campaigns! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 22, 2016, 06:38:43 PM Account farming is not necessarily against the rules per se, however it's looked down upon. Could get you banned, if you take it to far. Lol, how far do you "have to take it" ? 1000 accounts? 2000 accounts? I'm sure the farmer can handle a few members looking down. (and "frowning upon" - the other deterrent) This is why i'm trying to get more active on forum.bitcoin.com. No real spammers, no trolls, no farmers, great and friendly mods, and much much more. They even have signature campaigns! You should start a thread about it. I will come over and report how the new sig campaign is going! ie a bitcointalk treasurer is running it, earning 1/3 of the weekly payout, approx. Had to get rid of farmed account(s) when i complained. Oh the nice mod pm'ed you to go and spam there if i remember, all paid of course as you walked straight into a sig spot. Anyways, another thread. Back to farming, March 25 2016. 11.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810879 dimonstration (61) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810884 umhhppp (55) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810887 combayn (9) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, Mach 28 2016 6.10am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812957 coynedterm (321) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812958 yonique (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812963 splitups (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812964 dharkmadder (122) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, Created on 3 days apart for cover, first posts identical. Cover blown. added - very first post of dimonstration (posted before the other accounts above were created) "I spend roughly 3 to 4 hours to just accommodate the 20 per day quota on Yobit.net and updating the posts of my other accounts" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=724290.msg14310980#msg14310980 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 22, 2016, 08:10:37 PM I'm bringing this over here where it belongs, i'm happy to learn of any knowledge you wish to share on this issue hilarious. (or anyone)
In fact, it's silly only making one post every two weeks because if it gets deleted or the thread gets trashed then you lose that entire 14 potential activity. The farmers that try spam 14 posts every two weeks tend to be the worse though to be honest but it's worth keeping an eye on the one post posters so they don't start spamming to rank up. In fact, one post every 2 weeks is ideal for the serious farmer. The risk of a post deletion is a minimal time/reward risk. I have not noticed this "farmed" pattern of "14 post every 2 weeks". Could you link a few accounts, maybe a couple of "the worst" banned accounts? (i presume there were bans in these worst cases. sounds more like individual spammer than serious farmers?) Not saying you dont, but I've seen no evidence anywhere on the forum that you understand account farming. (or any other mod/admin) Of the 400 accounts I have listed on the real farmer thread, they do not "start spamming to rank up", they do exactly the opposite. They quietly rank up under your radar, then, when they have some rank, they start "spamming". Their "potential rank" is quickly gained. See how the accounts in my post above quietly rank up over months, under the radar of mods and members, until they (likely) get in a sig campaign, then they go full tilt. By then they are a decent rank and just "appear" ready blended in. Almost always the same pattern. Look at any of my first post farmed history's. coynedterm (above post) may be a good example. I have suddenly noticed this account around. 5 months to quietly rank up (6 posts), now spamming for seconds trade. A full member (321 posts under 2 month later). Much harder to "pick on" a full member? Of course the 14/14 system may be used. I have not seen it. I have not checked many newer accounts, maybe they are doing 14/14? BTW. could staff/admin (theymos) help out here and provide a spreadsheet (or multiples of, ie days/weeks) of all members? (particularly u=500000 -> todayish, 900000, including post count, and banned or not banned if poss!) Twitchyseal has kindly provided some, but it would be far easier for admin (theymos) to organise. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 23, 2016, 04:43:01 PM September 7, 2015, 10.20am - 12.15pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552818 markupsidesaddle (30) mar 29, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552835 daringdiscovered (645) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552847 charitablemoment (5) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552848 presencewilderness (5) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552849 croutonhexagon (350) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552851 strippedplayoffs (6) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552853 ardentvolcanoes (629) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552855 wintermeasures (1235) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19x33, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552859 titteringtacos (52) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552865 cheepingknickers (26) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552868 sobsitesearch (906) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, As if the first post schedule wasn't conclusive, see how they joined on sept 7 2015 but first post over 6 months later in march 2016. Also all their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers. You have probably seen wintermeasures around? There are a dozen more names to go within this list, but their post history's are less clear to show. I'm starting with the easy to explain accounts here. I will list the others soon. --- So lets see a few more accounts that fit within the above list/timescale. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552829 laplacepaltry (8) feb 16, mar 29, apr 11 may 10, 15, 19, 30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552830 staccatoauditory (90) feb 16, mar 29, apr 12, 24, 28, may 2x4, 3x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552842 passivebesiege (273) feb 16, mar apr 12, 24, may 10, 19, 30, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552858 chineseprancing (376) feb 16, mar 26, apr 11, 22, 28, may 8, 19, 30, So, after waiting 5 months, these 4 posted once a month earlier than wintermeasures. (check the u=#, they all fit within the first list) add arcanaaerobics, posted once 1 month earlier, then rota, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552823 arcanaaerobics (491) jan 22, feb 16, mar 26, apr 11,19x2, 20x... --- How about 4 more, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552827 fernswift (112) nov 9,10,26 dec 8,16,21,24, jan 4, 5x17... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552834 clangtrump (233) nov 4, dec 8, 21,24, jan 4, 7x2, 16, 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552850 setupbounds (520) dec 16, 29 jan 4, 7 13, 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552863 marbleregional (88) nov 9,24,26 dec 8, 9x44... So even the accounts that wait 2 or 3 months before posting all end up posting on almost the same days. (fernswift, clangtrump, marbleregional red trust?) add caramelisedbanknote, only account to post sept 7, then rota, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552838 caramelisedbanknote (504) sep 7, dec 8,16,19,24, jan 4, 7, --- Not sure if squabblegrill goes with the main list, activating on March 26 after 6 months, or on the second list as rota is same as chineseprancing? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552844 squabblegrill (105) mar 26,29, apr 11,22,28, may 8x4, 10, --- Last 2 accounts, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552854 patterdom (4) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552856 bleachedno (378) (red trust) They are connected together by their first four posts, patterdom nov 4, Jan 5,18, feb 2, bleachedno Jan 5,18, feb 2,3 clangtrump also first posted on nov 4, 2 month after registration. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 04:56:29 AM *edit* moved to Spambots thread - will remove this post in a few days time.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 05:03:28 AM There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website"
Code: MMM Global in their profile... ((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Thirty-Two thousand, one hundred and eighty-two members all with the same "Web Site" in their profile page's listing. *edit* Removed quoted samples Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 05:05:33 AM There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website" Those were (or are) spam and were usually nuked on sight (after they posted). After realizing that, some probably kept registering without posting. If you can compile a list of links, we could nuke them Code: MMM Global in their profile... ((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Update: [1] Re-read the post and realized it's 35 thousand. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 05:14:14 AM There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website" Code: MMM Global in their profile... ((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Thirty-Two thousand, one hundred and eighty-two members all with the same "Web Site" in their profile page's listing. We have just ticked over profile number https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=912093 Code: Name: nensalmendela That's 3.85% of *all* users of BitCoin Talk have MMM Global in their profile. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Arrakeen on October 24, 2016, 05:14:46 AM rizzlarolla, Timelord2067 -
Seriously, are you guys wizards or what?! How do you so easily spot fake accounts & what is this talk about 'alphabet lists'? Genuinely curious here. By alphabet lists, do you mean the farmer(s) create new accounts based on the next available free letter in the (farmed) handle? And speaking of MMM - I can't believe that shit is still around. But then again, I just found their youtube channel and can't look away - I guess Nigerians prey upon themselves as much as they do the rest of the world, eh? Keep up the good work :) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 05:15:05 AM There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website" Those were (or are) spam and were usually nuked on sight (after they posted). After realizing that, some probably kept registering without posting. If you can compile a list of links, we could nuke them Code: MMM Global in their profile... ((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Update: [1] Re-read the post and realized it's 35 thousand. That's why I spelt it out... ;) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 05:45:50 AM rizzlarolla, Timelord2067 - Seriously, are you guys wizards or what?! How do you so easily spot fake accounts & what is this talk about 'alphabet lists'? Genuinely curious here. By alphabet lists, do you mean the farmer(s) create new accounts based on the next available free letter in the (farmed) handle? And speaking of MMM - I can't believe that shit is still around. But then again, I just found their youtube channel and can't look away - I guess Nigerians prey upon themselves as much as they do the rest of the world, eh? Keep up the good work :) I'll show you how easy it is to find these Zombie Accounts TM... Above we have Code: Offline wania149 Set up a company in Australia Brand new 2013-06-13 0 which we trim down to Code: company in Australia Nets us: Code: Offline fiza9829 Set up a company in Australia Brand new 2013-03-22 0 The dates and name styles are very similar, so we trim Code: fiza9829 Code: fiza *edit* samples removed As I've said before, there's Australian place names, there's also Florida place names ie Code: Tampa Party Rentals which we trim down to Code: Tampa *edit* samples removed So, then we find a clear pattern with Code: %title% in the "website" nets us three pages of Zombie Alts TM *edit* samples removed Not one of the sixty five %title% UID's has been active since registering... So, that's nearly 4% of all BCT UID's I've just identified in one post as being Zombie Alts TM, time to get back to work... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 06:05:48 AM As you can see from above, as far back as mid 2011 there has been a concerted effort to farm accounts on an industrial scale here at BCT.
Having set up a couple of Forums (with Simple Machine Forum's protocol ) as well as being a global moderator of the SexCoin forum over yonder at https://sexcoinforum.com/index.php the management here could do a couple of things:
to name but a few. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 06:07:54 AM Code: %title% Not one of the sixty five %title% UID's has been active since registering... That's usually how standard bots operate on this forum, the difference is that these do not post but spam via profile information.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 06:11:32 AM What exactly does Nuked mean?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=429047 Code: Name: ElissaWint Is still there... with out the "Website" %title%, but still there... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 06:12:35 AM What exactly does Nuked mean? Permanent ban + IP ban + removal of all profile information. Patrollers are able to nuke newbies, administrators and some global moderators are able to apply temporary and permanent bans to all members.She killed them with nuclear weapons. (or warmed them up in the microwave) Or it could mean this. I may be a cat wielding nuclear weapons.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 24, 2016, 06:13:38 AM What exactly does Nuked mean? She killed them with nuclear weapons. (or warmed them up in the microwave)Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 06:15:47 AM What exactly does Nuked mean? Permanent ban + IP ban + removal of all profile information. Patrollers are able to nuke newbies, administrators and some global moderators are able to apply temporary and permanent bans to all members.Ah ok, so they just show up as "brand new", so now we can find them and someone may have already done something? What exactly does Nuked mean? She killed them with nuclear weapons. (or warmed them up in the microwave)We can only hope... ::) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 06:18:17 AM Ah ok, so they just show up as "brand new", so now we can find them and someone may have already done something? This is usually used just to combat spam that does get reported. Obviously moderators don't have time to keep track of each and every registered member. If the profile page is not clean, that still may not mean that they are not banned (this change happened sometime in 2016 IIRC). I'd tackle that MMM spam, but 30k accounts is overkill for a single patroller. I've looked into this a bit, there are some people with higher ranks still posting with that.If you find some other patterns with reasonable quantities (maybe under 1k accounts) you can PM me directly. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: A! on October 24, 2016, 06:45:43 AM This accounts are created by a bot called xrumer. This software has capacity to create up to 10,000 accounts in one hour. This software can solve captha, it has built in captcha solver. It can solve 500 different kinds of captcha even recaptcha. It can also answer textual captha, the program has 170,000 answers. Their goal is only to get backlinks to their website/clients.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on October 24, 2016, 08:21:33 AM There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website" Those were (or are) spam and were usually nuked on sight (after they posted). After realizing that, some probably kept registering without posting. If you can compile a list of links, we could nuke them Code: MMM Global in their profile... ((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Update: [1] Re-read the post and realized it's 35 thousand. but 30k accounts is overkill for a single patroller. So no cluster nukes :(Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 09:13:15 AM OK, so thinking caps on...
I searched the "Website" of users with Code: html and got 300 pages (say nine thousand UID's) Just the first page I spotted a repeating pattern "444" and found the html Quote http://www.r4card.org/r4-card-ds.html so I stripped it down to Code: r4card.org and searched "websites" and got Code: Offline nancygree444 nancygree444 nancygree444 GladysCaultongr@yahoo.com Brand new 2011-02-24 0 Four of the eight have Code: ConcettaRaferty in their MSN section... searching with all options we find a total of eight UID's that have concettaraferty in their MSN Code: Offline renekerber444 renekerber444 renekerber444 ConcettaRafertyya@yahoo.com Brand new 2011-02-27 0 Searching the other four emails we find Code: GladysCaulton Code: WendieMackey Code: MauricePutno Code: LashellTenny Searching Code: 444 Nets 18 pages ( ~ 540 UID's ) nearly 2/3 on the first page are "brand new" going back to 2010 Code: 333 Nets 33 pages ( ~ 1,000 UID's ) same again nearly 2/3 on the first page are "brand new" going back to 2010 Almost all have email details in the MSN section that fit into the same pattern as above, so they haven't been "Nuked" - I'd prefer it if they were all deleted which is an option in "Simple Machines Forum" Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 09:16:57 AM Almost all have email details in the MSN section that fit into the same pattern as above, so they haven't been "Nuked" - I'd prefer it if they were all deleted which is an option in "Simple Machines Forum" This option is not available to any kind of moderator I believe. The administrators are likely the only one with access to it (if it exists). The best that moderators can do is 'nuke' and that seems pretty adequate.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 09:32:00 AM Almost all have email details in the MSN section that fit into the same pattern as above, so they haven't been "Nuked" - I'd prefer it if they were all deleted which is an option in "Simple Machines Forum" This option is not available to any kind of moderator I believe. The administrators are likely the only one with access to it (if it exists). The best that moderators can do is 'nuke' and that seems pretty adequate.I don't feel killing a cancer one cell at a time is going to fix the solution, but I'll continue my efforts to find the other 95% of Alts, I think the 9,000 to 10,000 ( 1% of the 900,000 + registered users ) UID's in my last post plus the other 3.9% of all UID's in the previous posts is not a bad effort for one afternoon. *edit* ported info to Spambots thread) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 09:48:10 AM *edit* Post moved to Spambots thread - will remove this post in a couple of days .
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 10:22:10 AM down to Handled both of these. I think that you should create your own thread as this is different than the intended accounts being reported. These are usually spambots (backlink spam and whatnot), while OP started reporting sig. spammers and heavy account farmers. Code: fiza Code: Tampa This thread is too big as it is. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 24, 2016, 10:55:23 AM down to Handled both of these. I think that you should create your own thread as this is different than the intended accounts being reported. These are usually spambots (backlink spam and whatnot), while OP started reporting sig. spammers and heavy account farmers. Code: fiza Code: Tampa This does look like 2 different issuues. We are on a learning curve here. From bbb.reporter thread, In Oct 2015 (rough figures as guide, impossible for me to study properly) created accounts consist mainly of (or i was just very lucky to "hit" target) That was a wave of spam accounts by the same person. We have been manually banning them back then (I remember having a 5 second refresh timer on the member page) and then the situation started to calm down as we've started using a bot to do it for us. They are a thing of the past (for now).Accounts between 572000 and 575000 are "btcRDkill_" Accounts between575000 and 600200 are "MrFudged1_" Accounts between 600200 and 625000 are "KNC_areThief" I can assure you that those accounts have been banned. Only the staff can see if a user is banned or not. Anyway, moderators cannot ban members (because of how SMF ACL's system is build), only global moderators can, so we, as normal staff, really can't do anything. There is just one exception: Newbies. Those members can be nuked (but not banned) by Patrollers, which we have done with those MMMGlobal and KNC accounts (and of course the bot helped a great deal). So am I assured "they are all banned"? No, they clearly weren't/aren't. Can we have a serious explanation on "nuking" being different to banning? We (researchers) really need to be able to see who is/is not banned. ... while OP started reporting sig. spammers and heavy account farmers. Nearly correct. OP does not report sig spammers here, only heavy account farmers. Heavy account farmers by default turn into sig spammers. I am not interested in non farmed sig spammers - different issue. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 11:00:05 AM So am I assured "they are all banned"? No, they clearly weren't/aren't. The bot is based on account creation patterns and posting patterns. Obviously there are going to be patterns that haven't been discovered/added to the bot.Can we have a serious explanation on "nuking" being different to banning? Again, nuking (only applies to newbies or brand new): Permanent ban + IP ban + deletion of all posts + clearing of profile. Ban: Permanent ban + clearing of profile. We (researchers) really need to be able to see who is/is not banned. You'd have to take that up to Cyrus and Theymos.Heavy account farmers are by default sig spammers. I am not interested in non farmed sig spammers - different issue. Which is a bigger issue IMO and that's why the other reports should be moved onto another thread, as they tackle a different issue. Dormant backlink bots aren't causing any *real harm*.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 24, 2016, 11:22:39 AM Thanks Lauda, We (researchers) really need to be able to see who is/is not banned. You'd have to take that up to Cyrus and Theymos.Do I really have to do that? it is pretty clear they dont give a crap, or they have me on ignore. Seem's a bit daft creating another thread, just to be ignored again. Those spreadsheets i asked for would cut my work time down my 100x, but no interest from admin so far. User search disabled... Cant see who is banned... No input from admin/global's... How little interest do admin have here, they couldn't make it any harder for us Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 12:25:24 PM Thanks Lauda, You're welcome.You'd have to take that up to Cyrus and Theymos. Do I really have to do that? it is pretty clear they dont give a crap, or they have me on ignore.Seem's a bit daft creating another thread, just to be ignored again. User search disabled... Search for members work, just the 'display all members page' isn't.No input from admin/global's.. There's only 1 active global moderator at this time (hilariousandco) and they did respond here I think? They are also helping tackle spam elsewhere. I respond here often as I'm very strict regarding spam and as a patroller, there's only so much to do during the day. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 24, 2016, 04:49:02 PM down to Handled both of these. I think that you should create your own thread as this is different than the intended accounts being reported. These are usually spambots (backlink spam and whatnot), while OP started reporting sig. spammers and heavy account farmers. Code: fiza Code: Tampa This thread is too big as it is. Done. Have created a thread: Spambots (backlink spam and whatnot) - ie Zombie Accounts TM over yonder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660106.0 and will work on listing there the ones identified and nuked. Thanks for the suggestion. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 24, 2016, 06:35:51 PM You should try discussing the situation and options with Cyrus. Er, not being funny but... shouldn't Cyrus be trying to discuss this with me? I don't mind entertaining the last few real members with this thread. Making a mockery of admin/global mods abilities... mockery of bitcointalk. 400 accounts so easy to spot, a child could find them. (if they had the tools theymos has, but wont help us with) 400 more farmed accounts yet to be published? Growing by the day. I'm doing Cyrus/theymos work here despite them. While you and hilarious (and us members) have to "fight spam" with one arm tied behind our backs. Just thought they might have been interested. hey-ho. ----- Edit, Changed that line Lauda, any better? vvv Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 06:37:39 PM While you and hilarious have to pretend your "fighting spam". I can't talk for hilarious, but I do not *have to* do anything, nor am I doing what you're accusing me of. That's the thanks that one gets.Update: That makes *more sense* now. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: PantminerS7 on October 24, 2016, 06:41:03 PM Yes, it is allowed. Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." That's the thing. People with multiple account or even just one account in a sig campaign creates a lot of these posts. You see it almost every time there's a new topic: entire pages filled with one-/two-liners, all adorned with a lovely little signature advertising some gambling/trading/ponzi site. And all of hem are usually iterations of the one guy that actually posts an answer to the OP's question. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 24, 2016, 07:20:57 PM I received an email... --- I have been observing the posting behaviour of certain active posters, and it looks like these 4 accounts belong to the same person. I am sure this person has much more accounts. Perhaps that you can dive into it if you have the will and time to do so. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642933 Ybalevia --- The first 3 are already on my main farmer list. (page 10) The farmer registered HilbillyFred Nov 9 2015, along with 8 other accounts in that session, The same farmer registered rektDude and Legasean the day after on Nov 10 2015 along with 9 other accounts in that session. I'm sorry I missed Ybalevia! (and Adrayrd) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642924 Adrayrd (270) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642933 Ybalevia (243) That is 22 accounts created in 2 days, (+ 4 others listed from earlier in the day on nov 9 = 26) So yes, you are exactly right. They are the same person - the same farmer. And he does have hundreds more accounts (listed p10) and many more (not yet listed) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 24, 2016, 07:41:56 PM There is one specific guy who has been quoting and replying to his own posts in such a flagrant behavior that it makes me sick. I wonder if you could find him on your own. If not I could give you some joker to make it more entertaining for you.
P.S. It's not me but he frequents a sub-forum I am active in. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: minifrij on October 24, 2016, 10:12:37 PM There is one specific guy who has been quoting and replying to his own posts in such a flagrant behavior that it makes me sick. I wonder if you could find him on your own. If not I could give you some joker to make it more entertaining for you. Hey guys, there's an account farmer on the forum! Can you believe it?! I'm not going to help at all by telling you who it is, but I assure you that there is one!P.S. It's not me but he frequents a sub-forum I am active in. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 24, 2016, 11:52:21 PM There is one specific guy who has been quoting and replying to his own posts in such a flagrant behavior that it makes me sick. I wonder if you could find him on your own. If not I could give you some joker to make it more entertaining for you. Hey guys, there's an account farmer on the forum! Can you believe it?! I'm not going to help at all by telling you who it is, but I assure you that there is one!P.S. It's not me but he frequents a sub-forum I am active in. Because I am too busy spamming my signature for the weekly pittance obviously ;D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 25, 2016, 05:46:22 PM November 29, 2015, 12:17:14 PM - November 29, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Time scale 2 hours. 23 farmed accounts, 1150 spam posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669117 Kepariy (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669119 Lavavest (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669122 Mulzatas (85) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669123 Nadicona (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669124 Pasutinmeur (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128 Ruhtilg (89) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669131 Sidtamfia (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669134 Tafbiat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669137 Vixmore (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669140 Washika (303) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669141 Xavofat (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669142 Yauthitdar (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669143 Zivdafast (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef (181) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 Beparanf (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669150 Cacapzarg (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669152 Dodnastes (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669156 Ekanenf (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669157 Fappanu (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669159 Gotomoon (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669161 Haruderty (136) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669163 Jukagid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669167 Ketariz (17) That is the "alphabet" list from Nov 29, found in 2 different posts, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16056149#msg16056149 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16077156#msg16077156 I have now got a third alphabet list from Nov 29, 2015. It carry's on alphabetically from above (2) list, about 3 hour 20 min later. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669236 Lavander (77) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669238 Mulsters (13) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669241 Naficopa (130) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669246 Patusinmod (13) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669247 Rukusilf (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669248 Siftanfib (20) That is 29 active farmed accounts on Nov 29. I don't have the "still active" figures for this days registrations, but going by previous days in Nov, These 29 still active famed accounts will outnumber real "still active" members more than 2 to 1. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 25, 2016, 06:41:37 PM I received an email... --- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642933 Ybalevia --- So yes, you are exactly right. They are the same person - the same farmer. And he does have hundreds more accounts (listed p10) and many more (not yet listed) And another from same author, --- I found a new alt of what I believe belongs to the person I mentioned earlier. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656820 Alauria --- 656820 Alauria, correct, same farmer, listed on main list, p10! And another email, same author, --- Some more. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642924 Adrayrd https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641387 Galiatram https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605302 Skaven https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651671 Hedrilin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648404 DixieCrayon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197481 phreaky --- 642924 Adrayrd, yup, got in reply post to email. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16669727#msg16669727 TBA to main list. 641387 Galiatram, yup, on main list, p10! 605302 Skaven, yup, got that account here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16592543#msg16592543 TBA to main list. 651671 Hedrilin, yup, on main list, p10! 648404 DixieCrayon, yup, on main list, p10! They are all the same farmer. You are not checking my list! (or are you!) 197481 phreaky, old account. Joined Dec 20 2013, Posted once in 2014, then probably sold or hacked, started posting again April 13 2015. Slowly ranked up in 2015, then joins seconds trade sig campaign Jan 2016 then starts spamming the forum. All the traits of the farmer. This account was sold to or hacked by the farmer, i strongly suspect. Not yet proven. Interesting find. I'm always ready to listen to queries. Keep me posted. But please check the main list to aid your research and save me time checking! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 25, 2016, 06:44:01 PM All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 25, 2016, 06:54:08 PM All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list. Ok, few questions. You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned? Banned just now? Why? ----- vvv ok, thanks Lauda. vvv Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 25, 2016, 06:57:45 PM Ok, few questions. Yes.You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned? Banned just now? Not right now, they were banned prior to your post I believe and were part of a investigation of the quoted farmers. BadBear may or may not give you more information on that.Why? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 25, 2016, 08:49:13 PM All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list. Ahh.. I was about to add as banned to my main list at your (good) suggestion, but now realise these 7 are from different lists. A compilation of farmed accounts, spotter as "the same owner" by a concerned forum member Not a block of consecutive accounts. Not a single days registrations. (they are the same farmer, but...) I don't really want to start marking as banned one by one. Not yet anyway. I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two :-\ Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 26, 2016, 07:21:19 PM Look at these 2 farmed accounts, posting spam one after the other, almost identical, same lay out, i thought it was copy paste for a minute!
Both on my main list, and on the same sub list, registered 90 minutes apart, nov 19 2015. part of 8 accounts in sub list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638032.msg16685699#msg16685699 I will never use a bot for my trades because i think that i can do it better thatn the bots you know when i deal with the bitcoin i know the price every second also when he is going to change so i never use bots becuase i am fast enough. I will never use a bot for the trades becuase i know for sure that allot of people will not be happy with it you know and that is not good when you use bots you have to trust the bot and when you cant you wont be able to use him. And here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1615202.msg16685667#msg16685667 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604466.msg16685585#msg16685585 ...and there are many others. (Jeez, 3 more threads overrun with farmed accounts) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 27, 2016, 01:58:37 AM OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two. If this message disappears, it means I have finished. Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER
(Little BBS Joke there people)... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BadBear on October 27, 2016, 11:33:53 AM Quote I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found! I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 12:01:29 PM Quote I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found! I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too. Why not share it just with the people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BadBear on October 27, 2016, 02:37:59 PM Wouldn't be helpful if I did, it's mostly private information he can't access anyway. I can't help with the spreadsheet.
Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. It's a good starting point/correlation though, I've banned a few thus far (couple hundred total). Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 03:08:13 PM -snip- Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. -snip- Why not? Is account farming(.) Allowed? (sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 27, 2016, 04:09:56 PM -snip- Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. -snip- Why not? Is account farming(.) Allowed? (sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here) Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you. I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying ;D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 04:44:56 PM -snip- Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. -snip- Why not? Is account farming(.) Allowed? (sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here) Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you. I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying ;D Yeah, from Badbears responses you may be right. It's technically not against the rules. But there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts to sell to other people. Making farmed accounts worth less should really be the goal ultimately, banning bunches of accounts might be annoying for the farmer, but I don't think it will affect their prices much. Would probably be better to get a list, keep it private and let them know 20 random accounts were getting banned off the list every day. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 27, 2016, 08:08:24 PM Ok, few questions. Yes.You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned? Lauda, Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time? Quote I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found! I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too. Bit lame. No info, no spreadsheets, no list, no thanks, no help. They have been untouched for a year. How long were you going to leave it? lol, give them info like don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,J,K,L,... or don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,A,B,C,D... So blatant. They are not hidden. it is hard to be random, bitcoiners know that? and this farmer failed spectacularly. To be random would take real time and effort from the farmer, likely making his operation unprofitable. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 27, 2016, 08:25:22 PM people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla) thanks Twitchyseal. "there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts " Exactly. "It's technically not against the rules." There is no specific "farmer" rule, but there are other rules. No spam. No low quality posts. How is it possible to own and post with "hundreds" of accounts and not be low quality spam! Mods will judge each as an individual! There is another rule. If 1 account is banned, all his alts are also banned. "it is not the account, it is the Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 27, 2016, 08:34:00 PM OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two. If this message disappears, it means I have finished. Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER (Little BBS Joke there people)... Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together. That joke... clean over my head. :D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 28, 2016, 03:31:18 AM Quote I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found! I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too. Why not share it just with the people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla) That's what's know as a back-handed complement... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on October 28, 2016, 03:36:49 AM OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two. If this message disappears, it means I have finished. Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER (Little BBS Joke there people)... Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together. That joke... clean over my head. :D With BBS' being on dial up, the flat-mate would trip over the phone cord and you would loose the connection - meanwhile on your PC's screen if you were using TELIX or BLUE-WAVE or similar, you'd get ^^NO CARRIER to signify you'd lost the connection. (Kids these days don't know anything...) ::) ;D 8) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 30, 2016, 08:29:29 PM I believe these 2 new threads,
Wings Spammers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.0 Russian Political Posters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0 are explained by this post, the mr green list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16405201#msg16405201 A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up. There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer. (i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive) My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016. I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post) and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post) I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016. Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys. I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists) I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig? I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016 907392 907397 907399 907400 907401 907402 907405 907406 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 31, 2016, 08:45:36 PM Hey there , i saw my account is on the Farmed list and i back read for that reason on this thread i will be honest no matter if i will kick in my signature campaign . I will not mention my main account for this reason(Not Enrolled in the same campaign signature) I do buying and selling of accounts long time ago i used my main account on that transactions and now i use this account For alternative on my main account . I bought some accounts and i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help and give to whom Username/Account i bought it as most of his accounts i saw are being sold from now and then. I want to clarify that i am not a spammer and a farmer ,i am not the master of those created accounts. 0k, Any help is welcome. please tell your story! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 01, 2016, 04:56:36 AM This user:
Code: Name: Next BillG u=639394 http://archive.is/hWxZ8 passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway) While this user: Code: Name: Republic of Coin u=628183 http://archive.is/WtRDy Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart) Other incidents occurring around this same time: Quote 03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered: langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt) 03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered: toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt) 09 September 2015, 21:26:38 Date Registered: The_prodigy u=553420 http://archive.is/DYSll (Alaki Alt) 19 September 2015, 12:46:06 Date Registered: TrueHari u=555907 http://archive.is/5HwL5 (Alaki Alt) 01 November 2015, 09:51:21 Last actual post by AccTraderALT http://archive.is/35bRu#selection-353.5-353.35 04 November 2015 Quickseller, shorena and dogie all give monbux1 u=532457 and monbux2 u=532458 negative trust "Imposter" etc 06 November 2015, 14:37:13 Date Registered: Hariom u=635671 http://archive.is/lEa0Q (Alaki Alt) 21 November 2015, 05:40:22 Date Registered: kotones u=658596 http://archive.is/AyaeU (Alaki Alt) These are similar: Next BillG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/qTieo Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/VJVHd with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 01, 2016, 05:01:09 AM Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy
while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just* Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 01, 2016, 05:56:40 PM This user: Next BillG u=639394 Connected to other accounts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16155093#msg16155093passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway) Quote While this user: Republic of Coin u=628183 And new to me.Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart) Quote Other incidents occurring around this same time: 03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered: langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt) 03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered: toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt) sept 3 2015. 10.22am to 10.59am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551591 speakreclusive https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551592 langedwig ..... above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551594 barrowfiller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551596 brilliantstylish https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551601 toffeelive ..... above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551602 carpenterprocesses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551605 recitestores https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551606 storyrelativity ..... only active account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551607 maxwellapple https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551608 mehclasses Quote These are similar: Next BillG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/qTieo Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/VJVHd with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version. Indeed, very similar. I think it is clear above accounts are connected to those i listed (wintermeasures list) for sept 7, 10.22am, 4 days later to the minute! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16658179#msg16658179 All their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers. I have noted their post history's. then clearly connected to sept 8 list which includes Next BillG. (see first link) and the next days list, and the next, and on and on... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 01, 2016, 06:32:12 PM That's my story .I bought some accounts before to sell and i think all of those accounts are in your farmed list . The last account that i bought is from a different account farmer and i saw the account he use to sell those accounts until now. This is the first account farmer , But he is wise enough as i conclude that the accounts that i bought have no similar usernames with his other accounts . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 Republic of Coin This is the second farmer , On my observation his account are likely some of the usernames on the list . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394 Next BillG vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid etc that starts with that same words and a jumbled vowels. Thanks for posting, they are likely the same farmer. these "seller" accounts are liable to neg trust, and are disposable. Next BillG account sells accounts with similar names you say, vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, yet was created on a unsimular name list himself. (see link to Next BillG above post) the same farmer changing his "account naming style" as cover. first long double barrel names, then any name, then similar names vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, then alphabet names. our farmer is OCD. it fooled admin and the mods. it don't fool me. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 01, 2016, 06:37:42 PM Ok, few questions. Yes.You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned? Lauda, Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time? bump. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on November 01, 2016, 07:04:54 PM Lauda, bump.Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 02, 2016, 11:33:48 AM Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just* Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf These have got to be connected to each-other (even if they aren't connected to the two above) (and the blah is where I cut the rest of the quote out) POTENTIAL HERO MEMBER FOR AUCTION! (blah) Auction will end 4 hours after the last valid bid! I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason. Code: Name: jooj u=913200 http://archive.is/aXSNX 1 Member Account & 2 Full Member Account Up For Auction!! (blah) I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason, however, I will honor all winning bids. Good luck. Code: Name: Feedbacker u=675971 http://archive.is/9CuIU Look at the time codes for their posts from the 27th of October - One posts in the AM, the other PM, then after a few days, they both swap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200;sa=showPosts http://archive.is/H35yT (Hero Accounts) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675971;sa=showPosts http://archive.is/tT2ha (Member Accounts) Hour twelve and seventeen have posts in archived versions, but otherwise, not even close to being identical. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/KI6fT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675971;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/MOqhh Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 02, 2016, 05:40:26 PM Interesting list, bit random like the "wintermeasures" list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16155093#msg16155093
Sept 12 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554155 Yagami Iori sep 12 jul 28 aug 13, 24, sep 3x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554158 José Arcadio Buendía sep 12 jul 14, 28 aug 13, 24, sep 4x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554162 Johann Sebastian Bach sep 12 jul 14, 28 aug 13, 24, sep 5x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554165 South Park sep 12 jul 14, 28 aug 13, 24, sep 5... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554169 carriagehoodlum mar 27, apr 12, 26, mar 10, 19, jun 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554170 finishedgrey jan 5, feb 16, mar 19x6 ..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554172 fieldswealthy jan 5, 18 mar 26, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554174 fizzling dec 8, 21, 24, jan 4x.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554176 andesite nov 9, 20, 21, 26, dec 7, 15.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554178 miscreantskua mar 27, apr 26, mar 10, 19, jun 13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554180 technologyevents mar 27, apr 12, 26, mar 10, 20, jun 13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554184 macedoniantable mar 27, apr 12, 26, mar 10, 20x2, jun 14 posting mar 27, apr 12, 26, mar 10, 20x2, jun 14, - as used by 4 accounts above is identical to "wintermeasures" & co. fizzling dec 8, 21, 24, jan 4x.... (above, is the same as ...) fernswift nov 9,10,26 dec 8,16,21,24, jan 4, 5x17.. (wintermeasures rota) clangtrump nov 4, dec 8, 21,24, jan 4, 7x2, 16, 22 (wintermeasures rota) i did not list first posts for "langedwig" & co, (couple posts above) but they mostly first posted jan 4 or 5, then 18, (after registering sept 3) same as finishedgrey and fieldswealthy above, and patterdom and bleachedno on "wintermeasures" list. all the same farmer. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hedgy73 on November 02, 2016, 11:46:22 PM I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form :(. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: minifrij on November 02, 2016, 11:58:30 PM I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list. From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form :(. The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820) and AGD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652334.0); this isn't the right place. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hedgy73 on November 03, 2016, 12:17:11 AM I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list. From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form :(. The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820) and AGD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652334.0); this isn't the right place. Ok thanks for the info much appreciated :). I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 03, 2016, 01:49:38 PM I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list. From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form :(. The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820) and AGD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652334.0); this isn't the right place. Ok thanks for the info much appreciated :). I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not. You might be thinking of how a few pages back a Troll posted a rather extensive list of UID's on DannyHamilton's ignore list (with said Troll's own subset added in for good measure)... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 03, 2016, 04:13:37 PM I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not. you understand now you are not on the farmed list. I looked at your post history anyway, just to be sure, and on the first page was a link to a (unproven) scam accusation against Xenophoto. Which led me to post below, thanks, funny how these things happen! I am wondering on this accounts why they are still on sign campaigns or some of this accounts are being sold to other users. What will happen on them ? Sure you are. I want to tidy up the bbc.spammer list a little more. (***bbc. spammer list) So, how do you fit in?Dec 1. 10.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** 9 famed accounts, 3600 spam posts. Nov 30, 9.30 am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670721 Tagcibat (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670726 Viyamore (817) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670737 Watjila (23) Lets look at your post history, Viyamore nov 30, dec 10, 21, jan 2, 14, 27, feb 8, Exactly the same as Bepesand and Fatanut. Farmed in 3's, accounts created same time consecutive days, posted in rota. Looks to me I may have missed some accounts here. Alphabet list missing a few letters? Viyamore - you are a part of this mass farming. I thought the alphabet list above, created over days, was missing a session. X,Y and Z were missing. Not any longer. Nov 30 1.00pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028 Xenophoto (1600) nov 30, dec 9, 20, jan 1, 12, 26, feb 7, 20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671040 YellowMoon (14) nov 30, dec 10, 21, jan 2, 14, 27, feb 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671046 Zooplus (2528) nov 30, dec 11, 22, jan 15, 28, feb 9, 22 Identical posting rota as Viyamore (and others) - see quote. more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts. AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people. 3 goals - sig spam, sell or scam. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on November 04, 2016, 09:45:56 AM Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on November 04, 2016, 09:56:13 AM I believe these 2 new threads, Wings Spammers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.0 Russian Political Posters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0 are explained by this post, the mr green list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16405201#msg16405201 A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up. There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer. (i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive) My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016. I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post) and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post) I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016. Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys. I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists) I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig? I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016 907392 907397 907399 907400 907401 907402 907405 907406 No one can compare Chinese farmers, each of te farmer has more than 30 accounts, you can google it for further topics. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 04, 2016, 01:39:25 PM Identical posting rota as Viyamore (and others) - see quote. more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts. AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people. 3 goals - sig spam, sell or scam. Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And QuintilleioThat last one doesn't exist with that spelling, the closest I can find is Code: Name: quintilio Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 04, 2016, 07:27:22 PM Thanks for that. i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help... Quote I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016 from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before. Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account? I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 04, 2016, 10:43:50 PM Thanks for that. i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help... Quote I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016 from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before. Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account? I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4. I've had Fatanut PM me overnight - the usual sob story that my Neutral feed back on the four Trust walls will affect their ability to trade. Quote This UID has been bought and sold a number of times, you should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. So, I put together the list of Alts Quote This is a farmed account. The current owner of this account Viyamore u=670726 claims there has only been one owner since it was farmed. Accounts connected: Viyamore u=670726 Zooplus u=671046 Fatanut u=675421 Hatuferu u=676080 quintiilieo u=715575 At a guess all five are bought accounts which means we're not actually dealing with the true owner of these accounts, so we don't know how trust worthy this person really is and perhaps they are just offering up ones that have been noticed to take our attention away from other UID's. I've had from time to time the same old sob story that my neutral trust (first one above) is somehow hurting these UID's ability to trade, so I'll open it up to discussion, should I water down what I've written? I can't keep patrolling these famed accounts to re-flag in future - what wording might be ok? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on November 05, 2016, 12:32:18 AM I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent"
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 05, 2016, 12:58:32 AM I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent" I was contacted by Alanay to remove negative trust concerning a link to morocco.man - their logic was correct, and I amended from negative to neutral: Quote Alanay -2: -1 / +0 2016-07-05 0.00000000 Reference I misread a transaction and therefore incorrectly said that Alanay was an Alt of morocco.man - There is no evidence that connects Alanay to any other BTC user. Alanay then went out and scammed someone. Quote Johny Depp 0: -0 / +0 2016-10-21 0.00000000 Reference Scammer. Just caught him red handed. Please check reference. micher143 0: -0 / +0 2016-10-18 0.00000000 i think with its post it is clearly that she is a scammer Lacballs 0: -0 / +0 2016-10-17 0.00800000 Scammer csmcanarney 20: -0 / +2 2016-10-16 0.00000000 admitted to defrauding players on his site loli.center MartinL 0: -0 / +1 2016-10-16 0.00000000 Reference sockpuppet of Loli.Center (909512), who admitted to defrauding players on his site Which is why I can up with / amended someone elses text to read what I posted earlier. Fatanut is now PMing me to say they aren't an Alt of the other ones... (which could explain the three names / four posted earlier) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 05, 2016, 05:05:09 PM I've had Fatanut PM me overnight... At a guess all five are bought accounts which means we're not actually dealing with the true owner of these accounts... I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs. He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin" "Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date. That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability. "Viyamore" explained to me that he is saying he bought and sold the other 4 accounts he listed, "5 or 6 months ago" He can not prove that as he has deleted those pm's. I've also had another pm overnight from another farmed account trying to say it is not a farmed account. The 2nd pm from this account starts "I will be honest with you." Now saying he bought the account. Soon all the farmed accounts will claim pity, that they "only" bought the account. I only care if i list an account that was not farmed. His account was. I don't intend to watch 500+ farmed accounts forevermore, trying to find every time they are sold or resold. Farmed accounts, 3 goals imo. sig spam, sell or scam. To be fair handed, all need negative feedback imo. Maybe "Don't buy or trust this farmed account, this feedback is permanent" Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 05, 2016, 11:14:53 PM I'm liking my 500+ list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 It is starting to show patterns very nicely. Look at the alphabet list on Nov 27. (the 2nd list that day) See how the alphabet is continued from one regestration session to the next. One day to the next. 7 straight days that continues, getting through 3 and half alphabets. What was he thinking! Make me think i have missed other alphabet lists? Nov 25/26 is missing A-O. Nov 27 (the 1st list that day) missing J-Z If they are there, i will find them. They cannot hide forever. ------- march 22 2016. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808819 checkmatesir mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 1, 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808820 hajimasan mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808821 murtleannie mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808823 caxandra mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, for comparison, March 25 2016. 11.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810879 dimonstration (61) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810884 umhhppp (55) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810887 combayn (9) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, Mach 28 2016 6.10am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812957 coynedterm (321) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812958 yonique (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812963 splitups (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812964 dharkmadder (122) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, Created on 3 days apart for cover, first posts identical. Cover blown. added - very first post of dimonstration (posted before the other accounts above were created) "I spend roughly 3 to 4 hours to just accommodate the 20 per day quota on Yobit.net and updating the posts of my other accounts" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=724290.msg14310980#msg14310980 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 05, 2016, 11:33:52 PM I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs. He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin" "Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date. That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability. Did @Viyamore happen type type the name of his "main" account to you? - what I mean is did he actually type that name, not just provide a screen shot of his discussion with "Republic Of Coin"? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 06, 2016, 12:39:01 AM I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs. He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin" "Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date. That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability. Did @Viyamore happen type type the name of his "main" account to you? - what I mean is did he actually type that name, not just provide a screen shot of his discussion with "Republic Of Coin"? No type, only screenshot. ? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 06, 2016, 11:07:21 AM from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1657397.new#new
I cannot argue with your decision because you have all the freedom to make it happen what you want. But saying that I am a farm account is too much and something that you need to prove. i have proven you are farmed account. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0 Come and put your case, if you think you can prove different. Dude I respect you as you have a higher rank than me,but what you did does not prove that I am an alt account? Do you know what coincidence is? I would not discuss any further in the thread cause I know I have no shot of proving I am innocent of what you are trying to throw on me. ok, then if Lauda will allow, i will show here why you "have no shot of proving I am innocent" you are a "alphabet" account. that means you were created along with other accounts in order A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,........so on. i posted yesterday, I'm liking my 500+ list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 It is starting to show patterns very nicely. Look at the alphabet list on Nov 27. (the 2nd list that day) See how the alphabet is continued from one regestration session to the next. One day to the next. 7 straight days that continues, getting through 3 and half alphabets. What was he thinking! your account was created on that 7th straight day. 75 accounts were created over those 7 days. other alphabet lists on different days are also clearly connected. every single account has a capital first letter. no numbers. here are post history rota for Hatuferu and surrounding accounts, Nov 30. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028 Xenophoto (1600) nov 30, dec 9, 20, jan 1, 12, 26, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671040 YellowMoon (14) nov 30, dec 10, 21, jan 2, 14, 27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671046 Zooplus (2528) nov 30, dec 11, 22, jan 15, 28, feb 9 Dec 1. 10.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** dec 1, 9, 20, jan 1,12,27, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) dec 1,10,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) dec 1,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) dec 3, 9, 20 jan 1,12,26, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) dec 3,10 ,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) dec 3,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 you ask "Do you know what coincidence is?" i do. which is why i can see the above is beyond coincidence. i suppose Fatanut is coincidence too. and AlphaSun and Zooplus ? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on November 06, 2016, 11:25:21 AM Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla? Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 06, 2016, 11:34:14 AM Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla? Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast. that's kind of what i was thinking. To be fair handed, all need negative feedback imo. Maybe "Don't buy or trust this farmed account, this feedback is permanent" Have you seen any DT members round here? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 06, 2016, 11:39:12 AM Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla? Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast. The DT's are reluctant to get involved (Too many! They decry) - so I just hit them where it hurts - in their signature campaigns. Get them banned and Red Paint TM the account. They then can't sell the account, they have to buy another new account and get resigned up for signature campaigns all of which takes time and BitCoins. The hours / days they loose resurrecting a Zombie Alt TM from the farmer's grave-yard is lost time spamming the Forum. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: coynedterm on November 06, 2016, 11:41:35 AM in my opinion it is not allowed because the reason , we are here to help each other but If we have multiple accounts then we needs to give our feedback in different ways which us a bad thing .
so i think it is not allowed here for account farming . Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 06, 2016, 11:43:37 AM in my opinion it is not allowed because the reason , we are here to help each other but If we have multiple accounts then we needs to give our feedback in different ways which us a bad thing . so i think it is not allowed here for account farming . your on the 500+ list! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 coynedterm account registered 28 March. see same post rota 25 March accounts? (hey, nice grammar. is that you Viyamore?) -------------------------------------------------- *because i know!!! what is farmed accounts* Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on November 06, 2016, 11:56:33 AM The DT's are reluctant to get involved (Too many! They decry) - so I just hit them where it hurts - in their signature campaigns. Get them banned and Red Paint TM the account. They then can't sell the account, they have to buy another new account and get resigned up for signature campaigns all of which takes time and BitCoins. The hours / days they loose resurrecting a Zombie Alt TM from the farmer's grave-yard is lost time spamming the Forum. I understand that it's a lot of work, but far less work than rizzlarolla is already putting into identifying the farmed accounts in the first place! If DT only tag the accounts that rizzla has already investigated and listed, some farmed accounts could be caught and devalued before they even get into signature campaigns or before they are sold to buyers for sig campaigns. It's great targetting the ones already in campaigns and valuable work, but many could be stopped before they even get that far just by using this thread as a reference. It's a shame DT aren't interested, and criminal that admin aren't interested. It's starting to feel like the bulk of this forum is made up of zombies, with just a handful of genuine members muddling through, and poor moderators wading through pages and pages of farmed spam that shouldn't even be there. in my opinion it is not allowed because the reason , we are here to help each other but If we have multiple accounts then we needs to give our feedback in different ways which us a bad thing . so i think it is not allowed here for account farming . your on the 500+ list! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 coynedterm account registered 28 March. see same post rota 25 March accounts? (hey, nice grammar. is that you Viyamore?) LOL this thread is also a great honey trap! Funny how the farmed accounts just can't keep away :D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 06, 2016, 12:06:05 PM I understand that it's a lot of work, but far less work than rizzlarolla is already putting into identifying the farmed accounts in the first place! not so. They are both a lot of work indeed. I have a stationary target to work with. Timelord2067 has an ever changing moving target. Very difficult. Exactly why this needs dealing with at source. My 500+ list. (that is about to be expanded) The wheels are turning slowly in our favour i think. Things are starting to become clear to people now. (including me, i didn't know where my research was heading, i never expected to find such vast numbers of blatant accounts) ...and criminal that admin aren't interested. is so. ------------------------- vvv indeed it would - back to my earlier question - have you seen any DT members round here? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on November 06, 2016, 12:21:01 PM I understand that it's a lot of work, but far less work than rizzlarolla is already putting into identifying the farmed accounts in the first place! not so. They are both a lot of work indeed. I have a stationary target to work with. Timelord2067 has an ever changing moving target. Very difficult. Sorry, I wasn't referring to the work Timelord2067 is doing with that comment, his is certainly not a task I envy. I meant it would be less work for a DT member (or two) to run through the lists you have already created copy-pasting the red-trust feedback, and that that would save Timelord some work in the long-term. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lavander on November 06, 2016, 02:04:44 PM Hi guys!
Good job rizzlarolla! This account is on your list. I'm writing here to drop few informations for you, and talk about tagging accounts like this. In my opinion it will be "dangerous" move.. Let's take my example.. Couple months ago i make deal with one user, i don't remember his nickname (really) and in last message (finalizing deal) he wrote, that he want to thank me for fast and smooth deal. He wrote that he is moving out from this forum and he have 4 accounts that he don't need anymore. He attached 4 usernames and 4 correct passwords as bonus to our transaction. One of them was this account. I hold this accounts, sometimes i drop some post, i was even trying to join signature campaign, but i never joined, or even when joined i was kicked out because of lack of activity. In other words, certainly most of this accounts now have different owners, and in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. One more very interesting information: From message history of one of this bonus accounts (was used to trade other accounts, but probably majority messages was removed) I deduced that this person own also very trusted accounts. I suppose that one or more was in group of DT members. I suspect also that this person was involved in the big escrow scandal that happen at the end of 2015. Other thing is that i'm not sure if this person was only reseller of this accounts, or he was the main farmer. Regards, Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on November 06, 2016, 07:11:31 PM in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. Getting tagged for someone else's behaviour is a risk you take when you buy an account.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 06, 2016, 08:21:21 PM in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. Getting tagged for someone else's behaviour is a risk you take when you buy an account.For a moment there I thought I was reading Viyamore talking to LoyceV ::) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lavander on November 06, 2016, 10:43:35 PM in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. Getting tagged for someone else's behaviour is a risk you take when you buy an account.I think that people should to know with who they are speaking. But anonymity for Bitcoin is basic thing, so maybe we should look on this problem from other side. Maybe education of new users (because usually they give a catch on the storys of the earnings from signature campaigns) about the dangers of Bitcointalk should be the goal. Farmers and cheaters that are reading this thread already are preparing smarter ways to bypass this situation. Punishing (in my opinion), should be the ultimate solution. It is simply too late. I think we should start a discussion on how to stay ahead of fraudsters, not about how to chase them. I hope you get what i mean .. in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. Getting tagged for someone else's behaviour is a risk you take when you buy an account.For a moment there I thought I was reading Viyamore talking to LoyceV ::) I think i understand what you mean.. ;) Anyway i think a lot of people is freaking out now about farming and signature campaigns. Everyone is concentrated about this what already happen or what is going on now. But no one ask what gonna be next. Do this actions that you plan will eliminate farmers? No! I like BadBear answer.. He know that everyone have right to public disscussion, but he is already preparing for problems that will come. Talking about solutions in public just help cheaters to find better ways.. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on November 06, 2016, 10:54:55 PM in situation that trading accounts is allowed, and this users don't make any bad activity, tagging all of them can be hurtful for them. Getting tagged for someone else's behaviour is a risk you take when you buy an account.I think that people should to know with who they are speaking. But anonymity for Bitcoin is basic thing, so maybe we should look on this problem from other side. Maybe education of new users (because usually they give a catch on the storys of the earnings from signature campaigns) about the dangers of Bitcointalk should be the goal. Farmers and cheaters that are reading this thread already are preparing smarter ways to bypass this situation. Punishing (in my opinion), should be the ultimate solution. It is simply too late. I think we should start a discussion on how to stay ahead of fraudsters, not about how to chase them. I hope you get what i mean .. Transparency. Not anonymity. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lavander on November 06, 2016, 11:09:01 PM Transparency. Not anonymity. Point of view depends on the point of sitting ;) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 04:11:11 PM I'm liking my 500+ list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 It is starting to show patterns very nicely. Look at the alphabet list on Nov 27. (the 2nd list that day) See how the alphabet is continued from one regestration session to the next. One day to the next. 7 straight days that continues, getting through 3 and half alphabets. What was he thinking! Make me think i have missed other alphabet lists? Nov 25/26 is missing A-O. Nov 27 (the 1st list that day) missing J-Z If they are there, i will find them. They cannot hide forever. And as if by magic, they appear! Nov 26 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666723 Ademen (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666728 Balmtand (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666732 Cusdonard (37) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666734 Dolmater (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666763 Edsemen (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666771 Fulmand (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666776 Gasotard (28) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666783 Halmater (23) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666791 Jistlad (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666798 Kelarid (35) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666806 Lamatda (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666808 Mugtaiya (26) Nov 27 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667910 Jitmad (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667916 Kemarit (56) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667920 Lanatsa (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667924 Muhtaixa (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667927 Paractor (27) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667929 Qartersa (56) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667932 Rufsilf (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667933 Sibtalf (44) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667936 Tacalt (359) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667942 Vitkore (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667946 Wapfika (26) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667954 Yanidas (25) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 04:39:54 PM i missed these. they lead onto quoted list. see first post rota.
November 03, 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630474 Iceborn (270) nov 3, 10x3, 18x4, dec 4x4, 7x3, 14x4, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630483 AsaroUk (497) nov 3, 10x3, 18x5, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630489 DashCoinDark (361) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, Just trying to catch up , Nov 3, 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630500 Sandroxa (555) nov 3, 13x5, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630501 DuckKeeper (572) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630509 BombayChicken (265) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630510 ElpadroBitcoin (471) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x5, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630521 JeanMcCoy (364) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630528 JohnyWalkerUK (77) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630531 Chrismeister (425) nov 3, 12x4, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630534 DavidoAlto (379) nov 3, 12x4, 30 dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21, Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 05:11:22 PM December 01, 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672233 Hettinger (27) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672235 Oceriw (26) dec 1, 2x2, 3, 4x2, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672238 Nolankane (28) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672240 Adwoif (24) dec 1, 10, 15, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672241 Qaoven (23) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, Information and avatar's (bs) Hettinger female, 31, My home - The harder I work, the luckier I get. Oceriw male, 26, - I see you Nolankane male, 31, Wellington - There is no substitute for hard work. Adwoif male, 26, In the woods - The wolf is here. Qaoven male, 26, Europe - I love the Q Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 05:41:31 PM here are post history rota for Hatuferu and surrounding accounts, Nov 30. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028 Xenophoto (1600) nov 30, dec 9, 20, jan 1, 12, 26, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671040 YellowMoon (14) nov 30, dec 10, 21, jan 2, 14, 27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671046 Zooplus (2528) nov 30, dec 11, 22, jan 15, 28, feb 9 Dec 1. 10.00am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152 AlphaSun (188) *** dec 1, 9, 20, jan 1,12,27, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154 Bepesand (99) dec 1,10,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155 Cacaparg (52) dec 1,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 3. 9.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418 EssentialCoin (29) dec 3, 9, 20 jan 1,12,26, feb 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421 Fatanut (978) dec 3,10 ,21, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425 Gotumoot (25) dec 3,11,22, jan 3,15,28, feb 9 Dec 4. 8.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080 Hatuferu (2022) dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082 Julahid (55) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083 Kewatia (167) *** dec 4,16,20, jan 2,14,27, feb 8 you ask "Do you know what coincidence is?" i do. which is why i can see the above is beyond coincidence. i suppose Fatanut is coincidence too. and AlphaSun and Zooplus ? last few stragglers to add here. Dec 5 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=677152 Luwonder (24) dec 5, 18, 20, jan 3, 15, 28, feb 9 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=677181 Mometaskers (36) dec 5, 19, jan 1, 12, 26, feb 7 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 06:02:02 PM New alphabet list. follows on next day where it finished B => C
December 19, 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697328 Valuntinam (13) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697338 westseat (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697352 Xanotick (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697362 Yaminat (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697369 Zionatin (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697374 Assanger (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697381 Basteamore (34) December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM 2.5 hours, 13 farmed accounts 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) No bbc.spammer list account. That is 41 accounts added today. More to follow Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 06:17:31 PM New alphabet list. follows on next day where it finished A => B
Dec 22 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703087 Technosafe (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703091 Ultrasound (22) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703102 Variantand (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703108 Westant (25) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703115 Xianantung (28) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703117 Yates (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703125 Ziskinberg (962) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=703130 Arnoldent (29) Dec 23, 8.15pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704032 BattleField (25) dec 23, jan 4, 16, 29, feb 11, 24, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041 Caladonian (2659) dec 23, jan 5, 17, 30 feb 10, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704045 Daffadile (1342) dec 23, jan 6, 18, 31, feb 11, 24, Same alphabet farmer. Group of 3 accunts again. Posting in rota. 4000 posts. Super spammers. That is 49 accounts added today. More to follow Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on November 07, 2016, 06:18:24 PM You are amazing! Do you ever sleep?? :o
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 07:10:43 PM my keyboard is f***g around, making writing a long task! (^bit awkward communicating^ :D)
Dec 21 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699005 Vaclya (20) dec 21, jan 4, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699018 Zaelle (21) dec 21, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699025 Jeraerid (20) dec 21, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699029 Thaliron (29) dec 21, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 22x.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699034 Viakor (32) dec 21, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 22x.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699044 Etalia (50) dec 21, jan 4, 8, 15, 21, feb 9x3, 17, mar 9, 23x.... Dec 21 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699407 Daifotis (29) dec 21, jan 4, 19, feb 1, 16, mar 1, 14. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699413 Gilliam (22) dec 21, jan 4, 19, feb 1, 16, mar 1, 14. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699433 Zifen (20) dec 21, jan 19, feb 1, mar 1, 14. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699446 Menerever (24) dec 21, jan 4, 19, feb 1, 16, mar 1, 14. That is 59 accounts added today. More to follow Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 07, 2016, 07:27:29 PM New alphabet list. follows on next day where it finished B => C December 19, 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697328 Valuntinam (13) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697338 westseat (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697352 Xanotick (29) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697362 Yaminat (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697369 Zionatin (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697374 Assanger (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697381 Basteamore (34) December 20, 2015, 06:57:32 PM - December 20, 2015, 09:22:14 PM 2.5 hours, 13 farmed accounts 1000 spam posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698307 Cantoner (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698327 Dotnetin (14) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698333 Esenhowell (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698340 Facultid (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698356 Hallmader (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698370 Kwiksave (60) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698379 Luterwish (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698381 Monumental (24) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698387 Natlind (71) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698392 Oralmat (641) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698398 patricken (23) No bbc.spammer list account. That is 41 accounts added today. More to follow my keyboard.... >:( December 21, 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698772 Qunenin (548) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698790 Rutdam (30) That is 61 accounts added today. More to follow... --- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 --- Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 08, 2016, 07:45:38 PM march 23 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809396 haankoammu (122) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809398 springgers (305) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809399 bahubalis (13) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809426 draxcter (13) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809428 wildkens (200) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809433 doomistake (217) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809434 18thacccount (63) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809457 emblem2nd (72) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 12x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809461 marleybobthedog (318) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809465 chooseusernam (43) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809527 rottenfruits (25) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809528 malcovixeffect (460) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27 jul 20, -------- These already listed, should BALAK be added? march 25 2016 ~ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810879 dimonstration (67) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810882 BALIK (618) mar 25, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, jun 1, 16 jul 3x... ~ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810884 umhhppp (55) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, jun 10, jul 4, ~ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810887 combayn (13) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, BALIK has slightly different post dates. Not 100% sure at this point. Clearly he was just ranking up, posting twice a month. (until july 3 when he started his forum spamming with 22 posts!) Any input/connection from anyone? Just spotted how BALAK has identical post dates as these below. This lot did not start posting till month's after registration. September 7, 2015, 10.20am - 12.15pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552818 markupsidesaddle (30) mar 29, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552835 daringdiscovered (645) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552847 charitablemoment (5) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552848 presencewilderness (5) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552849 croutonhexagon (350) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552851 strippedplayoffs (6) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552853 ardentvolcanoes (629) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552855 wintermeasures (1235) mar 26, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19x33, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552859 titteringtacos (52) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552865 cheepingknickers (26) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552868 sobsitesearch (906) mar 27, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, As if the first post schedule wasn't conclusive, see how they joined on sept 7 2015 but first post over 6 months later in march 2016. Also all their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers. You have probably seen wintermeasures around? Also, for reference, remember March 28? March 28 2016 6.10am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812957 coynedterm (321) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812958 yonique (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812963 splitups (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812964 dharkmadder (122) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, Basically just answered myself. BALIK is going on the list. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousandco on November 08, 2016, 08:28:33 PM December 01, 2015, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672233 Hettinger (27) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672235 Oceriw (26) dec 1, 2x2, 3, 4x2, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672238 Nolankane (28) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672240 Adwoif (24) dec 1, 10, 15, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672241 Qaoven (23) dec 1, 10, jan 4, 8, 21, feb 12, 17, mar 9, 23, Information and avatar's (bs) Hettinger female, 31, My home - The harder I work, the luckier I get. Oceriw male, 26, - I see you Nolankane male, 31, Wellington - There is no substitute for hard work. Adwoif male, 26, In the woods - The wolf is here. Qaoven male, 26, Europe - I love the Q Seems these are copy and pasting: If you email the support of any porn site, ask them if they accept bitcoin. Accepting Bitcoin is so easy and basically free that you must be an idiot to not accept it. All merchants ever don't accepting Bitcoin are just ignorant about it. They are losing on a potential economy that they don't even know to exist. I think most of them who have heard about it are waiting for a "snowball effect" to ensue.You'd be surprised at how many will say "yes". Accepting Bitcoin is so easy and basically free that you must be an idiot to not accept it. All merchants ever don't accepting Bitcoin are just ignorant about it. They are losing on a potential economy that they don't even know to exist. I think most of them who have heard about it are waiting for a "snowball effect" to ensue. Possibilities are always their since bitcoins have wide market since bitcoin have many users globally and i dont really doubt if they will accept bitcoin because it can make their service fast,secured and less fee unlike the current processor they are accepting now but i think they are in studying phase for now since bitcoins are not really stable and in other hand surely they will try to look up for it since steam already accepts it as their mode of payment. As tittle says will amazon accept bitcoins in the future? I have some theory.It is all about that all shops after some time will pass,will have to accept btc payments, because btc will get so well known-and widely used they will just have to do this Possibilities are always their since bitcoins have wide market since bitcoin have many users globally and i dont really doubt if they will accept bitcoin because it can make their service fast,secured and less fee unlike the current processor they are accepting now but i think they are in studying phase for now since bitcoins are not really stable and in other hand surely they will try to look up for it since steam already accepts it as their mode of payment, And if amazon or ebay will really accept bitcoins well it can be a breakthrough listed on bitcoin history. If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years. both are equally great . I would take gold though cause it looks like a safer investment than bitcoin.With the rising inflation , gold will profit me without risks and is predictable. Meanwhile bitcoin seems like a great investment and might provide a promising future , I'd play it safe if the deal is for 10 years. and secondly, it might be happened in near future that May bitcoin collapsed, or banned by gov due to some reason, So surely I will go for the Gold, Because i cant believe in the sustainability of the BTC. No doubt btc is more volatile than Gold, but its not safer than gold. and secondly, it might be happened in near future that May bitcoin collapsed, or banned by gov due to some reason, So surely I will go for the Gold, Because i cant believe in the sustainability of the BTC. No doubt btc is more volatile than Gold, but its not safer than gold. I would take both too . But if I HAD to choose one, I would choose for gold nevertheless. The reason is gold is safer and less riskier and the rising prices of inflation has compelled me to pick gold out of the two. Bitcoin is a great option too. But I'd rather take gold. Both I would take both too . But if I HAD to choose one, I would choose for gold nevertheless. The reason is gold is safer and less riskier and the rising prices of inflation has compelled me to pick gold out of the two. Bitcoin is a great option too. But I'd rather take gold. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 08, 2016, 09:10:26 PM Nice finds hilariousandco
I cant see Adwoif there, so to be sure, off course is the bitoin not worth to me and that is only because there are allot of people who dont think the bitcoin would grow such big as he is for now but we all trust gold and that is all we want. copied by Adwoif, off course is the bitoin not worth to me and that is only because there are allot of people who dont think the bitcoin would grow such big as he is for now but we all trust gold and that is all we want. That is now all 5 :D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 08, 2016, 10:47:53 PM (got new keyboard!) March 12 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=802441 tabas (3208) mar 13x8, 14x13, 16x6, 21x15, 29, 31x...spam city... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=802442 boyptc (2918) mar 13x6, 14x12, 16x6, 21x6, 22x8, 29, 30x... spam city... adjoining accounts, first post day after reg, starting within 10 min of each other, making 8 and 6 posts finishing within 5 minutes of each other. going on to post only once on 29th, within 3 minutes of each other. i haven't checked, i suspect all the other post sessions are the same. bought to you by 777coin and bitvest.io 6000 shit posts in 8 months - really? how about, March 29 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=813708 Gohs (142) mar 29, apr 1, 5x4, 9, 14x3, 15, 16, 18x2. 19x4, 20x3, 21x2, 22x4, 30, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=813715 thisappointed (86) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=813718 Gahs (462) mar 29, apr 1, 5x4, 9, 14x3, 15, 16, 18x2. 19x4, 20x3, 21x2, 22x4, 30, exactly the same post history, almost the same names! thisappointed, the one in the middle has exactly the same post history as coynedterm and all those others in march. (see few post above) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 08, 2016, 11:52:27 PM Are you able to peg in GiocareHost u=413135 http://archive.is/ErbZz and or funkydog u=371308 http://archive.is/drlD8 and their Alt dj6230 u=128222 http://archive.is/MTP1I
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1308575.msg16818583#msg16818583 ajrah is one who verifies GiocareHost staking their BitCoin Wallet Address. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: DimensionZ on November 09, 2016, 04:59:05 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674877.0
is there any chances for members from other country? And can we use VPN service? I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance is there any chances for members from other country? And can we use VPN service? I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance maybe like that -_- Just spotted that in a thread I was responding in so I decided to throw it in here for a quick reference. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on November 09, 2016, 05:19:18 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674877.0 It seems to me this is a failed quote from someone who doesn't speak English. The rest of the post history though points at the typical Indonesian spammer and account farmer.is there any chances for members from other country? And can we use VPN service? I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance is there any chances for members from other country? And can we use VPN service? I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance maybe like that -_- Just spotted that in a thread I was responding in so I decided to throw it in here for a quick reference. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 13, 2016, 01:05:57 AM How does this sound?
Quote Originally a farmed account. As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times. You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. (Optionally)This trust is permanent and will not be removed. Additionally, if there's no scam accusation, trust is Neutral. If there is a scam accusation, or the account is already in the red, then the above trust gets Red Paint TM coating. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on November 13, 2016, 09:01:24 AM How does this sound? Sounds good to me, and I've added a line to explain why a farmed account is a bad account in the first place.Quote Originally a farmed account. Farmed means one user creates a lot of accounts and spams the forum to level up. As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times. You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. (Optionally)This trust is permanent and will not be removed. Additionally, if there's no scam accusation, trust is Neutral. If there is a scam accusation, or the account is already in the red, then the above trust gets Red Paint TM coating. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 13, 2016, 09:17:53 AM How does this sound? Sounds good to me, and I've added a line to explain why a farmed account is a bad account in the first place.Quote Originally a farmed account. Farmed means one user creates a lot of accounts and spams the forum to level up. As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times. You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. (Optionally)This trust is permanent and will not be removed. Additionally, if there's no scam accusation, trust is Neutral. If there is a scam accusation, or the account is already in the red, then the above trust gets Red Paint TM coating. I suppose that can be added, now where do we start? Who gets a liberal dose of paint? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 14, 2016, 11:22:24 AM How does this sound? Sounds good to me, and I've added a line to explain why a farmed account is a bad account in the first place.Quote Originally a farmed account. Farmed means one user creates a lot of accounts and spams the forum to level up. As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times. You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. (Optionally)This trust is permanent and will not be removed. Additionally, if there's no scam accusation, trust is Neutral. If there is a scam accusation, or the account is already in the red, then the above trust gets Red Paint TM coating. I suppose that can be added, now where do we start? Who gets a liberal dose of paint? Sorry I have been slow to respond here. (i am not well versed in the trust system) Can i suggest waiting/discuss a few more days/a week to see if the "banned" tag is implemented. Also can we get staff/DT involved, or at least confirm that they do not want to be involved. I've banned a few thus far (couple hundred total). Bearing that in mind, is there any point spending time on those, if there really are hundreds of them? (i am struggling to find evidence of that) My thoughts on this, All farmed accounts should be rated the same. If an account has other accusations against it, that should be a separate trust issue. Trust for "farmed" should never need changing, other trust may. A standard rating (copy paste) should be used, for ease of application and even handedness and to de-personalise. A systemic approach must be taken, ie, start at the beginning of the 500+ list, or a month at a time, or "alphabet" lists... An ad hoc or variable rating approach will be more personal. Is neutral "red"? (idk) If not, i think it maybe a bit lame, will not show and be ignored? I would think the minimum red would be the correct trust. (is that -1?) (1) Originally a farmed account. (2) Farmed means one user creates a lot of accounts and spams the forum to level up. As such, this account (UID) *may*have* been bought and sold a number of times. You should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. 1. Once farmed, always farmed. 2. a bit specific, slightly wrong. I told hilarious that was not the case, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16650103#msg16650103 If you add "reasons" they will be individually argued against. (you must have seen how "spam" is not even definable - see Daisy14 thread!) Maybe just keep it simple. "-1. This account is farmed - ref - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 " There are hundreds more accounts to be added to the 500+ list - Russian and Chinese farmed accounts mostly. (as we are now seeing the first effects of in "know alts" thread and "Wings spammers" thread) Your accounts will be negged to hell in retaliation? Hence "can we get staff/DT involved, or at least confirm that they do not want to be involved." Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: 20kevin20 on November 14, 2016, 11:27:43 AM It's allowed as soon as you respect the rules and do not abuse of it. For example, I've got my secondary account both as a backup option in case I'm out somewhere and I have to use a public computer, and as a second earning account. I thought of creating a third account too, but that's starting to be called an abuse which I don't want it to be.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on November 14, 2016, 06:04:07 PM Moved over from Known alts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.1200
Edit: I need information of: snip... 9: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897925 10: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898516 11: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898511 12: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898519 13: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898526 14: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898535 15: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898539 16: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898545 17: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898551 18: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898570 19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898574 20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898578 I am 95% sure these are farmed and alt of same person trying to cheat my campaign here: but I need some solid proof ...snip Any fool can see they are farmed by the same (russian?) owner. if you order the accounts in ascending order, (preferably copy paste account user name on end of each for ease of use, as done in thread linked below) and post here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0 i will be happy to look for evidence. Of possible interest/connection, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.msg16834962#msg16834962 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16732004#msg16732004 Show us your proof, as so far I am not a fool. ok, as jamalaezaz has not bothered to come to the farmer thread to enquire about farmed accounts i shall post here. hope you dopn't mind this once! i have snipped jamalaezaz's list down to accounts created on September 12 2016 to simplify my explanation/evidence. (oh, i have included 1 account created Sept 10, to show connection between days registered!) i find it usefull to include account names, often gives a further clue. Also easier to familiarise. total post count included in ( ) (i have put 11 and 10 in u=order) Already we can see familiar names, even 2 days apart. Badboy[ BTC] and [ BTC]Girl. Also seems partial to "4", Myra4, Vovka4, Grin4, even Do4a. Look at the post histoty, sept 10 9: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897925 Badboy[ BTC] sep 10x9, 11, 13x6, 14x4, 20x5, 21x..... sept 12 11: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898511 [ BTC]Girl (97) sep 12, 13x5, 14x4, 17, 18, 20, 21x4, 22x5... 10: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898516 Myra4 (63) sep 13x3, 14x4, 17, 21x4, 22x3.... 12: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898519 Do4a (47) sep 12, 13x4, 14x5, 22x2.... 13: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898526 Vovka4 (9) sep 12x2, 13x2, 14x5 - end 14: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898535 Toropen (17) sep 12, 13x2, 14x11 25x2... 15: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898539 DahonPao (10) sep 12, 13x2, 14x6 oct 15.. 16: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898545 Grin4 (8 sep12, 13x2, 14x5 - end 17: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898551 Nazarov (9) sep 12, 13x2, 14x6 - end 18: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898570 Noizebtc (6) sep 12, 13x2, 14x2, 18 - end 19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898574 Garryk (6) sep 12, 13x2, nov 1.. 20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898578 prostoFILIA (5) sep 12, 13x2 , nov 12.. Not much to connect as history's are short. some only 5 or 6 posts, but there is a pattern there. Lets look in more detail. they all post at least twice on sep 13, some more than twice. Lets see how random they made these posts. sept 10 registration, (edit, now added 6,7,8, the "tea break 3") 6: u=897862 BitmarkInvest 13x8, - (post1,2,3,4) 12.18, 12.31, 12.39, 12.53 7: u=897919 Dim4ik 13x4, @ 9.54 am, and (post 4) - (post 1,2,3) 12.19, 12.28, 12.55 8: u=897923 Maryshka91 13x2, @ 9.51 am, and (8.59 am) 9: u=897925 Badboy[ BTC] 13x6, @ 9.49 am, and 10.32 am (post 5+6) - (post 1,2,3,4) 12.25, 12.34, 12.40, 12.57 sept 12 registration, 10: u=898516 [ BTC]Girl 13x5, @ 9.47 am, and 10.31 am (post 4+5) - (post 1,2,3) 12.33, 12.41, 12.58, 11: u=898511 Myra4 13x3, @ 9.44 am, and 10.26 am (post 2+3) - (post 1) 12.37, 12: u=898519 Do4a 13x4, @ 9.42 am, and 10.23 am (post 3+4) - (post 1,2) 12.45, 1.01 13: u=898526 Vovka4 13x2, @ 9.39 am, and 10.21 am 14: u=898535 Toropen 13x2, @ 9.34 am, and 10.17 am 15: u=898539 DahonPao 13x2, @ 9.32 am, and 10.15 am 16: u=898545 Grin4 13x2, @ 9.31 am, and 10.13 am 17: u=898551 Nazarov 13x2, @ 9.29 am, and 10.09 am 18: u=898570 Noizebtc 13x2, @ 9.26 am, and 10.05 am 19: u=898574 Garryk 13x2, @ 9.24 am, and 10.02 am 20: u=898578 prostoFILIA 13x2, @ 9.21 am, and 10.00 am Not random at all. Posting rota for 13th sept started at bottom of list and worked up, even running through accounts created different days. 28 minutes to do the morning post rota, 9.21 - 9.49, quick cup of tea (or actually post other accounts from 10 sep - edit, now added, leaving only 5 min for tea) then 32 minutes to post all again! Is that conclusive enough? (answer is yes!) (i have put a gap in [ BTC]Girl/boy names to stop it displaying as BTCgirl/boy!) ---------- vvv ok, np. could you add link to that spreadsheet for ref/ease. i am about to add a couple more of your list, (the posts i said he made during tea break!) 6: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897862 BitmarkInvest (85) 7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897919 Dim4ik (73) ...another "4" 8: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897923 Maryshka91 (77) check back later - done. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: jamalaezaz on November 14, 2016, 06:46:32 PM thanks rizzlarola..
I request you to take a look at the spreadsheet of those twitter and facebook bounties from where I got these. you'll surely see some more interesting things. I would submit all but lack of free time. these shit accounts and their spammy PMs already took me 4 hours to collect and tick their screen shots. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on November 15, 2016, 03:01:16 AM It looks like rizzlarolla's work is now making the campaign managers aware that the majority of the sig campaigners they have been paying are mostly from account farming. I have already seen some of the signature campaigns being relaunched offering higher pay but with an emphasis on post quality. Spammers are included in a blacklist by the manager to discourage them from joining.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BlackMambaPH on November 15, 2016, 04:13:25 AM Name: sunsilk Post count: 39 Rank: Jr. Member Bitcoin address: 1DspGAFezLa7vjmmybM1UvzAZ7uz5WmBGk Please let me know if I am accepted, thanks. you can not join us, because your post quality is not good. sorry for that. I want to fill the remaining spot. I hope that you will consider me. Btc address: 1DspGAFezLa7vjmmybM1UvzAZ7uz5WmBGk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816896 - Sunsilk (Secondtrade Sig. Campaign) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=811719 - jossiel (WhyFuture Sig.Campaign) I'm not sure if the above account is connected to jacee. Because jacee facebook account name is Jossel . Hmmm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=542742 - jaceefrost (knowned alt of jacee) (Spectro Sig.Campaign) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512548 - jacee ( CrytoMixer.io) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 15, 2016, 05:09:21 AM It slipped my mind till just now, if possible, we need to identify the farmers behind some of these high intensity farms.
Case in point: Operatr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92499 Claims to have purchased "relinquished" a multitude of UIDs that had previously been caught red-handed scamming - well after they had received Red Paint TM A while later, I noticed that the UIDs in question still had their negative trust dished out to others. The trust is right up to the date Operatr has put the message below, while some have been used *after* their message to pain the wall red ie - trust abuse. When I contacted Operatr I got a terse "They will stay as is" type of response followed by Neutral trust on my wall. Operatr left this on numerous UIDs: Quote This SCAMMERS account has been relinquished to @Operatr, see details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325685.0 and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325685.msg13746700#msg13746700 this account should NOT be posting ANYTHING after today. Scammer followed instructions, answered the survey and relinquished the account. Can only HOPE they do not return to do any further damage. My goal is to keep these scammers in NEWBIE'ville as long as possible. I left this on a number of the UIDs Quote This UID has been bought and sold a number of times, you should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with. Operatr has now added Red Pain TM to my trust wall (oh woe is me!) and a quick recap of their various Alts shows PHS u=764988 and leancuisine u=143455 giving each other Positive trust (again, trust abuse). Title: Re: Farmed Accounts TM - Searching for... 19 November 2013 Post by: Timelord2067 on December 12, 2016, 11:45:12 PM Hi @rizzlarolla,
I have a strong feeling that these three UID's: 19 November 2013, 02:47:49 Date Registered: Anixs u=163265 http://archive.is/QVXgN 19 November 2013, 05:43:15 Date Registered: Wendigo u=163375 http://archive.is/Ds15V 19 November 2013, 19:37:12 Date Registered: WhiteyZ u=163888 http://archive.is/Ql4eY Are either Alts, or, at the very least are Farmed Accounts TM in either case I was wondering if: Using these three as templates, can you trawl through their post history and compare their posting patterns (ie once per fortnight, same day ie Monday, that sort of thing) and then if their patterns are similar over a period of time, then using that pattern to sweep for other UIDs that are also farmed? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 13, 2016, 02:17:37 AM I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed ;) http://archive.is/qTfdn Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: KWH on December 13, 2016, 03:53:28 AM I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel. You aren't getting out of this unscathed ;) http://archive.is/qTfdn That could be mighty risky for said account. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on December 13, 2016, 08:18:02 AM I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel. You aren't getting out of this unscathed ;) That could be mighty risky for said account. The fact that you're threatening Timelord publicly with red trust, doesn't score you any points though. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: NoirGroup LLDC on December 13, 2016, 09:16:34 AM My question is how does one open +1000 accounts. Where do they get the time and patience ?
Title: Re: Farmed Accounts TM - Searching for... 19 November 2013 Post by: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2016, 10:56:20 AM I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel. You aren't getting out of this unscathed ;) http://archive.is/qTfdn It turns out @rizzlarolla hasn't been online since the first of December, so I will have to do a little digging of my own, in any event:
There may be another possible explanation, in either case I haven't given Red Paint TM to those who've pissed against my wall in the past, so I'm not likely to now. ...and this post is archived for future reference too... http://archive.is/0SFDy#selection-4115.0-4335.78 Title: Re: Farmed Accounts TM - Searching for... 19 November 2013 Post by: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2016, 11:13:07 AM Didn't see your answer in another thread...
I didn't buy anything, mate. This has been my account from the beginning. You are starting to show signs of paranoia maybe? Whatever floats your boat then. You can flaunt your accusations all you want. I see you have a lot of free time to bury here anyways. One of the beauties of being a Timelord :-* ::) ;D Quote You are starting to show signs of paranoia maybe? Does that count as you libeling me? G'wan - Ya know ya want to... http://archive.is/wzXnf Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 13, 2016, 11:32:59 AM Jesus Christ mate. Your reading comprehension is not up to snuff. I recommend reading up on what sarcasm means before quoting more random posts out of context because you have just made yourself look like a complete fool. Your nitpicking attempt gloriously fizzled out. Sorry.
You picked the wrong guy to mess with. And for that you will pay with your reputation dearly. Keep digging a deeper hole because it will be easier for me to bury you alive. I want you. I will OWN you. Now let's play the high stakes. Everything or nothing. Let's dance! http://archive.is/eLpMa Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on December 13, 2016, 11:41:37 AM The lady doth protest too much methinks :D
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2016, 12:37:32 PM Jesus Christ mate. Your reading comprehension is not up to snuff. I recommend reading up on what sarcasm means before quoting more random posts out of context because you have just made yourself look like a complete fool. Your nitpicking attempt gloriously fizzled out. Sorry. You picked the wrong guy to mess with. And for that you will pay with your reputation dearly. Keep digging a deeper hole because it will be easier for me to bury you alive. I want you. I will OWN you. Now let's play the high stakes. Everything or nothing. Let's dance! http://archive.is/eLpMa This popped-corn needs more salt... and a tad more butter... To the tune of "Johnny-Be-Good..." (if you know what I mean...) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 13, 2016, 12:41:05 PM Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2016, 12:59:21 PM What part of Lord of the Rings is that? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 13, 2016, 01:10:00 PM What part of Lord of the Rings is that? It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul? ;D BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements? Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822 No comment ;D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on December 14, 2016, 12:39:05 AM What part of Lord of the Rings is that? It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul? ;D BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements? Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822 No comment ;D Interesting that you should try to bait me with a Global Moderator... I'm pretty certain I can connect you with a UID that was registered to within a week of your registering, but it's not that one (even though you both purport to be from the UK)... (and I've already archived that proof)... I've got other things to do (and I have a life), so you'll just have to wait. As for @rizzlarolla, this is their thread and you said you were prepared to wait until they had investigated you. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 14, 2016, 05:25:48 AM What part of Lord of the Rings is that? It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul? ;D BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements? Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822 No comment ;D Interesting that you should try to bait me with a Global Moderator... I'm pretty certain I can connect you with a UID that was registered to within a week of your registering, but it's not that one (even though you both purport to be from the UK)... (and I've already archived that proof)... I've got other things to do (and I have a life), so you'll just have to wait. As for @rizzlarolla, this is their thread and you said you were prepared to wait until they had investigated you. Oh I can wait. But when you are both done with it I will reach out to theymos and have you stripped of your privileges. How does that sound? The man on the top won't let this one slide. Keep toying with me. I am ready. http://archive.is/nk3w4 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on December 14, 2016, 12:57:50 PM Oh I can wait. But when you are both done with it I will reach out to theymos and have you stripped of your privileges. How does that sound? The man on the top won't let this one slide. Keep toying with me. I am ready. http://archive.is/nk3w4 All this Butt Hurt TM because I have a feeling that your UID is a farmed account and I asked someone to compare your account to two others? Now you have named theymos as a patron to do thy bidding for thee... as well as hilariousandco who's going to piss on my wall on your behalf. Perhaps instead of watching SFF TV and gambling you should think your posts through instead of repeatedly going back and editing them. Chuck Berry anyone? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on December 14, 2016, 01:08:12 PM Oh I can wait. But when you are both done with it I will reach out to theymos and have you stripped of your privileges. How does that sound? The man on the top won't let this one slide. Keep toying with me. I am ready. http://archive.is/nk3w4 All this Butt Hurt TM because I have a feeling that your UID is a farmed account and I asked someone to compare your account to two others? Now you have named theymos as a patron to do thy bidding for thee... as well as hilariousandco who's going to piss on my wall on your behalf. Perhaps instead of watching SFF TV and gambling you should think your posts through instead of repeatedly going back and editing them. Chuck Berry anyone? Theymos knows very well what my footprint is on this forum. I don't need to tell you, though. Keep the insults coming. http://archive.is/9Zfq3 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: drakker on December 15, 2016, 01:55:16 AM I think mods have to lessen alt accounts. But if it will allow by moderators theyvwill continue to make an account. I saw some thread of selling accounts. That is the main reason why many people wants to make more accounts. I saw many spam post like emoticons only, one word etc.. They ruin the conversation in the thread,the idea that might help the thread starter get from other users.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: 400actforsale on December 15, 2016, 02:46:29 PM Well, in my personal knowledge on the forum rules, it is allowed. However one of my friend have all of his account banned because he have opened a thread with his main account and answered with his alt... So having multiple accounts (and if you want to sell them) you have to contribute more to the forum and the community.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on December 16, 2016, 05:22:36 AM Oh I can wait. But when you are both done with it I will reach out to theymos and have you stripped of your privileges. How does that sound? The man on the top won't let this one slide. Keep toying with me. I am ready. http://archive.is/nk3w4 All this Butt Hurt TM because I have a feeling that your UID is a farmed account and I asked someone to compare your account to two others? Now you have named theymos as a patron to do thy bidding for thee... as well as hilariousandco who's going to piss on my wall on your behalf. Perhaps instead of watching SFF TV and gambling you should think your posts through instead of repeatedly going back and editing them. Chuck Berry anyone? Theymos knows very well what my footprint is on this forum. I don't need to tell you, though. Keep the insults coming. http://archive.is/9Zfq3 You seem to be doing a good enough job of it yourself - but seeing as you asked for some more Butt Hurt TM ponder this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ObK96b8ztag/Tfn6owTw2cI/AAAAAAAAAs4/bZmkgDnnD6M/s1600/holy+grail+2.jpg Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: tbearhere on January 11, 2017, 06:02:20 PM Maybe the one who put me in the red is one too.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 13, 2017, 11:07:33 PM Added posting times, so bumped.
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88highroller 7.46am 11.19am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886849 workharder00 7.47am 11.34am + 11.58am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886850 wannarahaa 7.51am 11.39am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886855 beeframen 8.11am 11.44am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886858 danskepankki 8.17am 12.19pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886859 danishcookie 8.20am 12.26am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886860 pissmyenemy 8.31am 12.29pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886865 poloniexwhale 7.55am + 8.04am 12.34pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886867 hungerforsex --------- 11.49am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886869 singaporedollar 8.42am 1.44am +12.46pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886873 U2BONO 8.51am 1.49am + 1.57am + 12.57pm August 9 2016 posted 14 aug 2016 posted 11 aug 2016 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10.27am 4.08am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887064 alpesvillage 10.31am 4.11am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887068 Elclasico ------- 4.13am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887071 findscam 10.39am 4.17am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887076 malmoghetto 10.42am 4.20am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887079 SweFinnish 10.48am 4.23am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887083 hollandvan 10.51am 4.25am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887085 tulipbubble 10.55am 4.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887087 BayernRobben 10.59am 4.35am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887089 hugelobster 11.02am 4.45am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887096 Hueylewis -------- 5.16pm +5.24pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887100 princetotti 6.07am 4.49am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887105 pastapaska 11.08am 5.05am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887107 jaesonma 11.11am 5.08am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887110 HardenAdidas 11.14am 5.22am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887111 olympicwinner 10.06am 3.52am These accounts are not for sig spamming, they are for pump/dump scamming. STRATIS, chronobank.io, and others. Same system as the "wings, ARK" farmed accounts. (same farmer) bitcointalk - the one stop scam package - Buy adverts for your scam on this forum, and then buy immunity to create shill accounts. (hundreds of other "as yet" inactive farmed accounts in this period not listed (2 days). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886828 altcointrader7 is the only inactive account listed to show connection to next member altcointrader8 active) Two random days posting rota - check others are the same. Conclusive, 1 farmer free to scam here with 90 accounts(+100's more) I will add more detail in due course. Lauda, you said "I (Lauda) lack the sufficient permissions to run checks on those (farmed accounts) myself." But you do not need security clearance to check those facts on this thread! Did you mean you are not allowed to look at the blindingly obvious? theymos sells advertising space and shill accounts? Achow now selling advertising space on his bctaccountpricechecker, even though account sales are "frowned upon" according to the "unofficial" meaningless rules. ---------- Don't forget to to use the 500+ thread for easy reference, now 700 accounts? (i haven't counted lately) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 13, 2017, 11:11:31 PM Lauda, you said "I (Lauda) lack the sufficient permissions to run checks on those (farmed accounts) myself." Calm down. With that statement I meant that I don't have access to / can not check logs which could potentially connect those accounts (if not more). You're basically preaching to the choir when addressing me regarding this issue.But you do not need security clearance to check those facts on this thread! Did you mean you are not allowed to look at the blindingly obvious? Two random days posting rota - check others are the same. Conclusive, 1 farmer free to scam here with 90 accounts(+100's more) After (quickly) inspecting just a few of the listed accounts, they seem connected to me.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 13, 2017, 11:24:33 PM Lauda, you said "I (Lauda) lack the sufficient permissions to run checks on those (farmed accounts) myself." Calm down. With that I meant that I can't check logs which could potentially connect those accounts (if not more). After inspecting just a few of those, they quite obviously seem connected to me. You're basically preaching to the choir when addressing me regarding this issue.But you do not need security clearance to check those facts on this thread! Did you mean you are not allowed to look at the blindingly obvious? Ok. I admit i'm not entirely sure of your role Lauda, and you are clearly down the pecking order of "ability to act". I don't mean that in a bad way. You suggested the "banned" user rank (kind of) scuppered by admin. You don't seem to like account sales, unlike others - Achow clearly, newely promoted. You don't seem to like spam, yet are very limited in authority. I have listed 700 farmed accounts - still ignored by globals and admin. Most listed accounts still live months later. I had to create my own database - probably no other member can easily see what myself and theymos can. Bad bear could not/would not help obtain user info. User search is disabled and there is no way to "close" any researched list without knowing active/banned. You seem to be as hindered in your efforts as I am. I pretty much trust you are not involved Lauda. Not the others mods/admin. (added) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 14, 2017, 12:20:44 AM Ok. I admit i'm not entirely sure of your role Lauda, and you are clearly down the pecking order of "ability to act". I don't mean that in a bad way. You should definitely not be looking into my direction. I'm definitely somewhat known for my stance against spamming, account farming and account trading.User search is disabled and there is no way to "close" any researched list without knowing active/banned. Indeed. This is an good example of use-case for which the 'Banned' rank would be useful.I pretty much trust you are not involved Lauda. Not the others mods/admin. I can only confirm my non-involvement. I can not confirm whether someone else is or isn't involved though.You seem to be as hindered in your efforts as I am. Unfortunately we can not do more whilst the forum continues to decay.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 14, 2017, 01:23:40 AM Ok. I admit i'm not entirely sure of your role Lauda, and you are clearly down the pecking order of "ability to act". I don't mean that in a bad way. You should definitely not be looking into my direction. I'm definitely somewhat known for my stance against spamming, account farming and account trading.User search is disabled and there is no way to "close" any researched list without knowing active/banned. Indeed. This is an good example of use-case for which the 'Banned' rank would be useful.I pretty much trust you are not involved Lauda. Not the others mods/admin. I can only confirm my non-involvement. I can not confirm whether someone else is or isn't involved though.You seem to be as hindered in your efforts as I am. Unfortunately we can not do more whilst the forum continues to decay.(that mod being powerless to do anything about the 90 farmed accounts listed above) Quote After (quickly) inspecting just a few of the listed accounts, they seem connected.. It's so easy to see isn't it, when you have access to information. You don't have the database access me and theymos have do you? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Etalia on January 14, 2017, 03:43:28 AM Ok. I admit i'm not entirely sure of your role Lauda, and you are clearly down the pecking order of "ability to act". I don't mean that in a bad way. You should definitely not be looking into my direction. I'm definitely somewhat known for my stance against spamming, account farming and account trading.User search is disabled and there is no way to "close" any researched list without knowing active/banned. Indeed. This is an good example of use-case for which the 'Banned' rank would be useful.I pretty much trust you are not involved Lauda. Not the others mods/admin. I can only confirm my non-involvement. I can not confirm whether someone else is or isn't involved though.You seem to be as hindered in your efforts as I am. Unfortunately we can not do more whilst the forum continues to decay.(that mod being powerless to do anything about the 90 farmed accounts listed above) Quote After (quickly) inspecting just a few of the listed accounts, they seem connected.. It's so easy to see isn't it, when you have access to information. You don't have the database access me and theymos have do you? Rizzi, you are one of the most educated ppl and one of most stupid at the same time. There was a mod at BCT that was involved in this account selling. All the time I thought it was Hilarious, because he had the most to gain, but then a new event happen. The account selling (see references mentioned by others) link was Lauda. Somebody from the east of the EU has the more to gain, the most to win, and the less to lose with it's mod position. It suprised me that i can/could even post here, Apologies Hilllie (Can I call you that? I suppose so)., you did what you had to do. @Riz, you are stupid too. WTF do you think you can achieve with fighting with the owner of the forum. Be it (To me Theymos is nothing more then a robot) fair or not, it still practises human justice. While you fighting with the wrong authorities and keep on complaining that you are not getting paid for it, you should overthink you 'friends' With all your post gone by your own disgrace your friends are not doing so well either. Bitcointalk will live without you or with any mod (be it theymos or Satoshi) But bitcointalk can do way better with you. So please stop searching allies in Lauda or the so called signature managers. There is a reason there is a distance between management and them... Management hope the mods don't screw up enough so they can practice their jobs. But what if a account trader was one of theirs... @Lauda yes you will hide behind TOR, but for us a 1000 bucks is ok, you will brag with it. Nuf said. Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking. - Unknown Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 14, 2017, 09:08:51 AM There was a thread of good argument, mostly for that rank, few against. This example was there. Your thread. Nothing happened. Let's see what happens.Hmm. Interesting to hear you, a mod, say that. I think that anyone who says that spam isn't a major problem, nor that the forum is decaying because of it is either unaware, financially incentivized to say so, or delusional.You don't have the database access me and theymos have do you? No.The account selling (see references mentioned by others) link was Lauda. I call bullshit. What references are there that allegedly tie me to account selling? ::) @Lauda yes you will hide behind TOR, but for us a 1000 bucks is ok, you will brag with it. Not only do I not use TOR, but $1000 is a trivial amount of money.The rest isn't worth responding to individually considering that almost everything is false. Maybe your alts got thrown out of Bitmixer. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 14, 2017, 07:33:35 PM It suprised me that i can/could even post here, Apologies Hilllie (Can I call you that? I suppose so)., you did what you had to do. Is that because your already on the 500+ list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 20, 2017, 04:55:10 PM moved over from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1397579.460
It is really interesting to see how good you tag along together. Investigating such case I can confirm like Gunthar that Quickseller is using not only gorgon as his alt account but also rizzlarolla. The way you write is almost identical so I have no doubts that you are alts of each other trying to fight Lauda for her good work that she is doing in the forum. *IF* rizzlarolla is an alt of the Alt known as quickseller it could explain why rizzlarolla never responded over the last two months to this request of mine: Hi @rizzlarolla, I have a strong feeling that these three UID's: 19 November 2013, 02:47:49 Date Registered: Anixs u=163265 http://archive.is/QVXgN 19 November 2013, 05:43:15 Date Registered: Wendigo u=163375 http://archive.is/Ds15V 19 November 2013, 19:37:12 Date Registered: WhiteyZ u=163888 http://archive.is/Ql4eY Are either Alts, or, at the very least are Farmed Accounts TM in either case I was wondering if: Using these three as templates, can you trawl through their post history and compare their posting patterns (ie once per fortnight, same day ie Monday, that sort of thing) and then if their patterns are similar over a period of time, then using that pattern to sweep for other UIDs that are also farmed? Timelord2067, i'm sorry i never responded. I did look, but found nothing i could prove. I've had the same problem with other requests you have made to me. (which i responded to by post or pm) Most accounts you have asked me about have been much older than those listed by me here. I think "farmed" accounts were scarcer in 2013 and more disguised, in part because the farmer was less clear of his own intentions at the time of creation. Anixs registered on nov 18 2013 and posted 7 times that day. Then nov 23, dec 4 x 2, 19, feb 24, 26. Wendigo registered nov 18 2013 and posted once that day. Then nov 19 x 2, 20 x 2, 21 x 9, 22 x 10, 23 x 5. The only very slight connection - Anixs did not post till nearly 3 hours after registering, about the same time Wendigo registered and posted. WhiteyZ registered nov 19 2013 but did not post till (2014) jan 11, 12 x 5, 19, 22, 23. WhiteyZ is German. The fact that i cannot connect these accounts does not mean they are not connected, just that i cannot prove anything here. I would love to find the evidence you seek, but i can't. I'm not sure how to read this comment - "*IF* rizzlarolla is an alt.." Is that a possibility to you Timelord2067? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 20, 2017, 10:15:09 PM The fact that i cannot connect these accounts does not mean they are not connected, just that i cannot prove anything here. I would love to find the evidence you seek, but i can't. I'm not sure how to read this comment - "*IF* rizzlarolla is an alt.." Is that a possibility to you Timelord2067? My comment was part of a discussion that's been taking place over a number of threads over a great many weeks (while you've been away). While the comment was about you, it wasn't an accusation, which is why I ensured I marked my word " if " quite clearly as " *IF* " (as opposed to using highlighting which might get lost in a cut and paste) to ensure anyone reading would understand the word's context. Sorry for the concern and thank you for taking the time to look - when I had a look at the three I was noticing things such as one would post then the other, or the day one didn't post the other would. That sort of thing. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 23, 2017, 10:21:55 PM Timelord2067, thanks for your prompt reply. Sorry i'm not so responsive. I hope you have seen i've been posting elsewhere - yup, that other I am at a bit of a loss here, as i have tried to express there. When the shit here is sanctioned from the top, what can we do? Your time is worth more than connecting what are probably a few of his accounts. I think my time is rather wasted too. Nearly everyone has gone. I/We'll keep working i guess. It will come to a conclusion. What a shithole this place has become. It is dragging bitcoin down. (i'm pretending i will win 4 btc on that other site, but i don't really think that can happen! everything else is me) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 24, 2017, 09:40:30 AM Timelord2067, thanks for your prompt reply. Sorry i'm not so responsive. I hope you have seen i've been posting elsewhere - yup, that other I am at a bit of a loss here, as i have tried to express there. When the shit here is sanctioned from the top, what can we do? Your time is worth more than connecting what are probably a few of his accounts. I think my time is rather wasted too. Nearly everyone has gone. I/We'll keep working i guess. It will come to a conclusion. What a shithole this place has become. It is dragging bitcoin down. (i'm pretending i will win 4 btc on that other site, but i don't really think that can happen! everything else is me) You're more than welcome, I'm only doing this research for my own benefit - if it is of benefit to others, that is a bonus. Archive everything where possible. Follow your hunches. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 25, 2017, 09:04:59 PM You're more than welcome, I'm only doing this research for my own benefit - if it is of benefit to others, that is a bonus. Archive everything where possible. Follow your hunches. Your right. This is my driver. Bitcointalk was "satoshi nakamoto's forum". Because of that, this is by default, "the come to forum" for bitcoiners. (or those just looking at bitcoin) My hunches bought me to here. Now they are telling me that an organised scamming ring operates from here. Sanctioned, and/or run by Admin. Or total, almost implausible, negligence. Either way, it's not how things should be. (in my strong opinion) I am a Bitcoiner. I can't just let real bitcoiners be (predictably) mugged here. Or just let the perception and IQ of genuine bitcoiners to be so systemically degraded. And i certainly cannot let satoshi nakamoto be synonymous with the actions of the present admin. Thanks for your council, I'm finished flapping now. :) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 28, 2017, 05:32:06 PM Look at how many ALPHABET accounts i have found.
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Faxmate (19) 208 accounts farmed by 1 person or 1 gang. (that i have found so far, some letters missing, probably find them at some point) Many still quietly ranking up. Some scamming, some shilling, some confidence building. I'm going to look into Fatanut again. I don't feel that account was sold. I think most of the above accounts are probably not sold, still farmer owned. I don't think Fatanut has made a statement on this? I think only others did, Yahoo? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666175.msg16765472#msg16765472 (any links info please) Fatanut is welcome to respond here, though i have not notified him. (if claiming to have bought the account, i would like to know when please) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on January 28, 2017, 06:14:36 PM Wow, all clearly the same farmer. Bloody hell..... Good work Rizz, I'm only sorry it seems so thankless.... Some of us appreciate and admire what you're doing, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: coolcoinz on January 28, 2017, 07:24:11 PM Some of these people are really crazy farmers.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041 He started writing professionally on May 18th, and since then wrote 3767 posts! It's about 14 posts every single day for the past 9 months. If this is the same person, who farmed the other accounts, this is some serious business. We could even call it a job. ;) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: KenR on January 28, 2017, 08:06:58 PM Some of these people are really crazy farmers. What more adds on to it is the signature campaign he is currently enrolled in.They have had a history of horrible signature campaign posters with most of them being alts of each other.Doesn't come as a surprise to me.They'all should be banned from the respective campaigns.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041 He started writing professionally on May 18th, and since then wrote 3767 posts! It's about 14 posts every single day for the past 9 months. If this is the same person, who farmed the other accounts, this is some serious business. We could even call it a job. ;) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on January 28, 2017, 09:31:57 PM Some of these people are really crazy farmers. As the typical farmer, he started with a calculated one-post-per-2-weeks to build op "potential Activity". When he reached enough, the post spam started for a quick level up to start the signature earnings.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041 He started writing professionally on May 18th, and since then wrote 3767 posts! It's about 14 posts every single day for the past 9 months. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: HateNATO on January 28, 2017, 09:35:18 PM Yea it is allowed :D I have 5 accounts and I have joined with 2 accounts in signature campaigns but I dont join with more than 1 account in 1 signature campaign.I use every account for different signature campaign because I dont want break rules.
Please put me in your multiply account list :P Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: actmyname on January 28, 2017, 09:36:51 PM Yea it is allowed :D I have 5 accounts and I have joined with 2 accounts in signature campaigns but I dont join with more than 1 account in 1 signature campaign.I use every account for different signature campaign because I dont want break rules. Please put me in your multiply account list :P Can you list the names of your other 4 accounts? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: HateNATO on January 28, 2017, 09:44:05 PM Yea it is allowed :D I have 5 accounts and I have joined with 2 accounts in signature campaigns but I dont join with more than 1 account in 1 signature campaign.I use every account for different signature campaign because I dont want break rules. Please put me in your multiply account list :P Can you list the names of your other 4 accounts? Why you need names from my 4 other accounts?I am really confused now because they are my private things which I dont want share.Tell me why and I will decide if I will tell you. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 28, 2017, 09:46:28 PM Wow, all clearly the same farmer. Bloody hell..... Good work Rizz, I'm only sorry it seems so thankless.... Some of us appreciate and admire what you're doing, for what it's worth. Yup, clear as day. to me, theymos, and now you! Hey i had my mid-investigation crisis, onward now, thanks for your appreciations. :) We could even call it a job. ;) A well paid, organised crime ring operating here unchecked or sanctioned by theymos. What more adds on to it is the signature campaign he is currently enrolled in. Nothing personal here Ken, but Qtum is probably a far worse scam in the making, imo, of which you are now a paid shill. (qtum probably being part of that organised crime ring running here) The latest money making scam drive sanctioned here on bitcointalk. As the typical farmer, he started with a calculated one-post-per-2-weeks to build op "potential Activity". When he reached enough, the post spam started for a quick level up to start the signature earnings. Yeah, probably about right. Yea it is allowed :D I have 5 accounts and I have joined with 2 accounts in signature campaigns but I dont join with more than 1 account in 1 signature campaign.I use every account for different signature campaign because I dont want break rules. Please put me in your multiply account list :P Your in the wrong thread then, you want Known alts for "a few accounts". Go waste space there. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BitHodler on January 28, 2017, 09:51:55 PM Yea it is allowed :D I have 5 accounts and I have joined with 2 accounts in signature campaigns but I dont join with more than 1 account in 1 signature campaign.I use every account for different signature campaign because I dont want break rules. Are you really that dumb or are you just acting like so? It doesn't take much effort for riz to chase down your other farmed accounts. You are shooting yourself in your foot right now.Please put me in your multiply account list :P Haven't you a thread open in the first page of the Meta section where you ask for a name change? It's so obvious that I almost feel sorry for you. ::) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: HateNATO on January 28, 2017, 09:52:57 PM rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad.I even didnt trid to sell account here I dont want sell it.Also I dont see reason why you are so angry to account farmers when multiply account is allowed?I will live this poor topic and never come back again because of you.
BitHodler who even care if he create a multiply account list when I respect all rules I join with every account in different signature campaign and I respect all rules. I never spam with my account I write normal posts as you can see. Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules :P Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: K~Ehleyr on January 28, 2017, 10:05:12 PM rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad.I even didnt trid to sell account here I dont want sell it.Also I dont see reason why you are so angry to account farmers when multiply account is allowed?I will live this poor topic and never come back again because of you. BitHodler who even care if he create a multiply account list when I respect all rules I join with every account in different signature campaign and I respect all rules. I never spam with my account I write normal posts as you can see. Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules :P 1) Before you criticise anybody else's English you should take a lesson - your English is crap. 2) If you don't understand the point of this thread you clearly haven't read it properly. Your pathetic "few accounts", while spammy and annoying, are not classed as account farming. You're about 50 accounts short. Before you go all cocky wide boy on us, try reading the thread. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 28, 2017, 10:19:53 PM rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad. Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules :P I have to dumb it down a bit. In a big way, you are right. There is no rule against having 100 accounts of your own. But if you try doing that, it wont work for you. You are not part of the sanctioned crime ring here. You will be banned. Bye Bye HateNATO. :'( Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 28, 2017, 10:35:39 PM Are you really that dumb or are you just acting like so? It doesn't take much effort for riz to chase down your other farmed accounts. You are shooting yourself in your foot right now. Haven't you a thread open in the first page of the Meta section where you ask for a name change? It's so obvious that I almost feel sorry for you. ::) Yup HateEU 880061, HateNATO 880092. 31 accounts apart. (less than 2 hours) Well spotted. I'm looking at the 800000's atm... (hence my last long "90" list) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 29, 2017, 01:47:10 AM Are you really that dumb or are you just acting like so? It doesn't take much effort for riz to chase down your other farmed accounts. You are shooting yourself in your foot right now. Haven't you a thread open in the first page of the Meta section where you ask for a name change? It's so obvious that I almost feel sorry for you. ::) Yup HateEU 880061, HateNATO 880092. 31 accounts apart. (less than 2 hours) Well spotted. I'm looking at the 800000's atm... (hence my last long "90" list) Code: Name: hateCB u=572070 http://archive.is/YxesL their first post they apologise for their (broken) English. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=572070;sa=showPosts http://archive.is/3rOrS Follows the same two letters as hate EU - CB standing for Charge Back amongst other usages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 29, 2017, 08:45:53 PM rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad. Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules :P I have to dumb it down a bit. In a big way, you are right. There is no rule against having 100 accounts of your own. But if you try doing that, it wont work for you. You are not part of the sanctioned crime ring here. You will be banned. Bye Bye HateNATO. :'( Banned. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769120.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 30, 2017, 01:45:23 PM rizzlarolla I cant understand you.Your grammar English so bad. Bye bye I leave this weird topic where nobody dont know multiply account rules :P I have to dumb it down a bit. In a big way, you are right. There is no rule against having 100 accounts of your own. But if you try doing that, it wont work for you. You are not part of the sanctioned crime ring here. You will be banned. Bye Bye HateNATO. :'( Banned. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769120.0 I'm begining to think @rizzlarolla may actually be right that the staff / admin of bitcointalk.org are doing more than just turning a blind eye to the scamming going on. There are 11 self admitted UID's in that thread: CroSany (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770316), SanjaPaulina (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878364), PokemonFun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879823), RussiaIsBest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880007), CroIsBest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880016), HateEU (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880061), HateNATO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880092), DlakavaKobasica (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880116), BitcoinTeacher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880018), bitcoinisbest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893749), IamCro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=949145) and yet IamCro somehow manages to sweet talk their way into having some or all of those alts unbanned. The staff / admin are either naive or increadably gullable given that with a few clicks of the mouse I've been able to identify another six UID's hateCB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=572070), Sanjaya (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=573097), CroSani (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879200), CroIsPro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880020), BigKobasica (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880115), btc teacher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=890743) with corresponding registration dates to the eleven listed above as detailed in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17673010#msg17673010 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 07:32:51 PM I haven't looked at this HateNATO case Timelord2067, guess i will at some point.
Do you know which accounts are/are not banned. - edit, i got it, Known alts thread! --------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm begining to think @rizzlarolla may actually be right that the staff / admin of bitcointalk.org are doing more than just turning a blind eye to the scamming going on." - Timelord2067. Indeed, everything is pointing that way from where i'm looking. There seems to be different farmed accounts for different purposes. Some scam or pump, some sell, some spam,. An evolving ecosystem. I linked 209 ALPHABET accounts, explained and posted again here recently. (previous page) I am certain the ABCD accounts are the same farmer. And others. All unhindered by theymos. WTF is going on! My "90" list (aug 8/9 accounts) published recently shows (if you read that way) how these accounts are not created for selling. They are created for pumping the latest scam here. (Bitsler, waves, chronobank.io. stratis, Qtum to name a few) Lulling newbies, and people who look but never register here, to part from their btc. (most of the people scammed must be very naive, but that doesn't lessen the plot, and still blackens the btc perception) (added - are these ico's now being made to order/rota "peimarily" for bitcointalk? more research needed, no time as yet) If i can easily find these accounts, theymos already knows. Of course, theymos will probably say these scams are legit business proposals. If they were, they would not need all these farmed accounts pumping would they, creating a false sense of legitimacy and popularity. (like my favourite scamcoin neucoin. they would pay cointelegraph to publish untruth's to deceive/scam their own readers) I am a little time constrained in my searches, and am greatly hindered by the lack of any admin input (lol). The lack of any forum tools, or (usable) member search facility. (that has been disabled) theymos has never responded. Signature campaigns have got "a bit" cleaner lately, since my input was making clear how many "farmed" accounts were taking the places of real members. (not that many real members would want to advertise the latest batch of scams would they?) Farmed accounts probably created by campaign managers or admin to sig spam with impunity. Any "innocent" campaign manager worth his salt would have seen they were paying farmed accounts. The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam. But previously they helped create the problem. Even Fatanut now running the sig campaign list, with full support from Yahoo. Fatanut is a farmed account with many scammy "brother accounts". I see no evidence of that account being sold. I wouldn't really care if it was sold. To me anyone buying an account does so to deceive here. Senior DT members must also be involved. Their inaction shows this. The forum hacks? Ok, maybe incompetence, but then to allow all the old accounts (that were hacked and sold?) to come back to life here. Many are easily identifiable. Probably johnybigs? More profits for "scammers". It feels to me like Greg maxwell is also compliant. He moderates here. He allows all this scamming of real bitcoiners. Driving away adopters to keep his 1mb block intact, while building up monero. Satoshi must be fuming. The go-to btc site, and the btc devs of "default" are killing what they should be nurturing - Bitcoin. There is a bigger picture to find here. Others here (or gone more likely) must see the same. Someone's gotta stand up for Bitcoin here. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 30, 2017, 10:18:55 PM Signature campaigns have got "a bit" cleaner lately, since my input was making clear how many "farmed" accounts were taking the places of real members. (not that many real members would want to advertise the latest batch of scams would they?) I would only modify this statement to better reflect the situation by changing it to:"Some signature campaigns..". There are plenty of those that are full of shitposters.The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam. You have? That must have been something during the first SMAS attempt. IIRC it was me who revived it with the blacklist idea when I started to manage Bitmixer.But previously they helped create the problem. Senior DT members must also be involved. Their inaction shows this. Yes, and no. It is really hard to say who pulls what strings in certain cases. However, a lot of 'serious DT' members have abandoned this 'ship' due to inaction.It feels to me like Greg maxwell is also compliant. He moderates here. If I'm correct, he spends very little time in here. There's no need to target individuals though. No staff member has the 'power' to do a 'cleanup' or make 'desired changes'.Others here (or gone more likely) must see the same. Correct. See my previous remark on DT members.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 30, 2017, 10:24:45 PM While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat?
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 10:45:02 PM While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat? Could be, but i don't believe satoshi was involved. Therefore, it was not the original setup. Maybe theymos sold the forum. We would not know that? But could equally be someone who loves btc. Just got greedy. Wants loads of Bitcoin. i think that the degradation of Bitcoin is only a temporary side effect, not the long term goal. (in such a case, they probably wont think they are degrading bitcoin?) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 11:27:59 PM Signature campaigns have got "a bit" cleaner lately, since my input was making clear how many "farmed" accounts were taking the places of real members. (not that many real members would want to advertise the latest batch of scams would they?) I would only modify this statement to better reflect the situation by changing it to:"Some signature campaigns..". There are plenty of those that are full of shitposters.Ok, i can probably agree with that. After all, i know how much work it can be to fight this problem when there is an endless supply of new farmed accounts ready to try to replace "blacklisted" accounts. You were the only mod i could see doing anything. (but now you got yourself fired) The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam. You have? That must have been something during the first SMAS attempt. IIRC it was me who revived it with the blacklist idea when I started to manage Bitmixer.But previously they helped create the problem. I think we both played a part in getting things done, and making things clearer. It can only be a sticking plaster against this. Two (global?) mods have told me tonight i should get a new hobby. Piss off rizzlarolla? They have not acted against farmed accounts. They love Fatanut? Senior DT members must also be involved. Their inaction shows this. Yes, and no. It is really hard to say who pulls what strings in certain cases. However, a lot of 'serious DT' members have abandoned this 'ship' due to inaction.Yeah, a lot are gone, some are sold(?). The remainer's (in the higher ranks) have overseen bitcointalks decline. I'm not well versed in DT. It feels to me like Greg maxwell is also compliant. He moderates here. If I'm correct, he spends very little time in here. There's no need to target individuals though. No staff member has the 'power' to do a 'cleanup' or make 'desired changes'.Ok, i probably should have said core or blockstream? Luke j also moderates? It is a failure by association. They are linked to theymos here and elsewhere. This failure likely suits their agenda also. Others here (or gone more likely) must see the same. Correct. See my previous remark on DT members.That is evident by the response's in this thread over 5 months. Nothing, or nearly nothing. Quite "thought provoking" my post. You don't seem to have any real big problem with my thinking Lauda? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 31, 2017, 09:27:05 AM After all, i know how much work it can be to fight this problem when there is an endless supply of new farmed accounts ready to try to replace "blacklisted" accounts. You were the only mod i could see doing anything. (but now you got yourself fired) Indeed. They keep on coming, although I think they may be more oriented towards the altcoin projects (I may be wrong). I'm also not going to comment the activities of any particular staff member. :DTwo (global?) mods have told me tonight i should get a new hobby. Piss off rizzlarolla? One is a global moderator, the other is not. I'll just leave this as a comment: ::)Yeah, a lot are gone, some are sold(?). The remainer's (in the higher ranks) have overseen bitcointalks decline. I'm not well versed in DT. Correct. Some do get sold and some end up scamming (there was a case this very month IIRC). I can explain the trust system properly; just PM me if you want.Ok, i probably should have said core or blockstream? Luke j also moderates? From what I can see, luke-jr is not a moderator.Quite "thought provoking" my post. You don't seem to have any real big problem with my thinking Lauda? I've wanted to correct some minor mistakes as there are people who are just silently reading this. I'm pretty much with you on this, excluding the speculative thoughts as to who's behind it. I personally prefer not to speculate that much.While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat? Interesting assertion. The situation is most surely damaging to the ecosystem.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: darklus123 on January 31, 2017, 11:24:17 AM Quote Quote from: Lauda on January 30, 2017, 10:18:55 PM Quote from: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 07:32:51 PM The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam. But previously they helped create the problem. You have? That must have been something during the first SMAS attempt. IIRC it was me who revived it with the blacklist idea when I started to manage Bitmixer. I think we both played a part in getting things done, and making things clearer. It can only be a sticking plaster against this. Two (global?) mods have told me tonight i should get a new hobby. Piss off rizzlarolla? They have not acted against farmed accounts. They love Fatanut? This is quite intriguing on my part. To whom are you referring to. I am also doubtful if why would they say it? because in the first place I think you are doing a good job and besides it can help them looks for this certain accounts and finds out if they violates some rules. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 31, 2017, 03:31:35 PM This is quite intriguing on my part. To whom are you referring to. Here you go:Make a script to watch the 1000 farmed accounts. Run it on a VPS or a VM or something like that. Program an "expiration" so that you don't literally watch it forever. A new hobby is probably a better idea. I am also doubtful if why would they say it? I shall not comment on this, but rizzarolla might.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on January 31, 2017, 07:28:13 PM 1. i don't think your wrong about that as i have been trying to show. 2. oh yes. 3. thanks 4. i was thinking of reddit? are there any other core/blockstream contributors moderating here? 5. i try to speculate based on research. we can't all just walk away can we? (as explained previously) ------------------- I am also doubtful if why would they say it? because in the first place I think you are doing a good job and besides it can help them looks for this certain accounts and finds out if they violates some rules. I shall not comment on this, but rizzarolla might. i stated why the mods would say it on the previous page here? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: darklus123 on January 31, 2017, 07:50:25 PM This is quite intriguing on my part. To whom are you referring to. Here you go:Make a script to watch the 1000 farmed accounts. Run it on a VPS or a VM or something like that. Program an "expiration" so that you don't literally watch it forever. A new hobby is probably a better idea. I am also doubtful if why would they say it? I shall not comment on this, but rizzarolla might.This is weird tho. I guess rizzlarolla was hurt in this statements? Then you were also removed as a mod? Demn i am not just that good in politics anyways i ll just continue watching Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 31, 2017, 07:53:32 PM 4. i was thinking of reddit? are there any other core/blockstream contributors moderating here? I don't really follow reddit much besides occasionally reading it. The only moderator from Blockstream is Maxwell AFAIK.5. i try to speculate based on research. we can't all just walk away can we? (as explained previously) Indeed.This is weird tho. I guess rizzlarolla was hurt in this statements? I wouldn't go that far and say that he was "hurt".Then you were also removed as a mod? That is not related to this case.Demn i am not just that good in politics anyways i ll just continue watching Then save us the bytes in here and PM people instead.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 31, 2017, 10:21:44 PM While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat? Interesting assertion. The situation is most surely damaging to the ecosystem.Especially if an Alt Farmer TM were commissioned by a third party to actually create thousands of Alts to destabilise BitCoinTalk.org - the farmer is already paid for the entire crop, not just one cherry off the tree at a time. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 01, 2017, 07:19:36 PM While I *in principle* agree with the spirit of what @rizzlarolla is saying, perhaps there are other scenarios that should be explored, for example who would want to discredit BitCoins? Real Banks or even law enforcement who might perceive (without understanding the power of BlockChain), that crypto currencies are a threat? Interesting assertion. The situation is most surely damaging to the ecosystem.Especially if an Alt Farmer TM were commissioned by a third party to actually create thousands of Alts to destabilise BitCoinTalk.org - the farmer is already paid for the entire crop, not just one cherry off the tree at a time. That would not be a problem - unless theymos supported it. That "Real Banks or even law enforcement" farmer could easily be detected and stopped. If theymos thought his forum was being destabilised, he could have banned my farmed accounts before i had even found them! Easy. Problem solved. (or well on the way to being solved) In theymos's position, i could identify many, many more farmed accounts. If i had his access and tools, i could find them much quicker. Like he can. (i have already found a few hundred other farmed accounts - unpublished - i have a job IRL) theymos has Known of all my farmed accounts before i did. He does not act because this is how he want's it. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 01, 2017, 09:04:08 PM 4. i was thinking of reddit? are there any other core/blockstream contributors moderating here? I thought i had seen his name here - Bitcoin Forum > Other > Meta > Bitcoin Wiki (Moderators: nanotube, Luke-Jr, SomeoneWeird) ? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on February 04, 2017, 02:13:35 AM I haven't looked at this HateNATO case Timelord2067, guess i will at some point. Do you know which accounts are/are not banned. - edit, i got it, Known alts thread! --------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm begining to think @rizzlarolla may actually be right that the staff / admin of bitcointalk.org are doing more than just turning a blind eye to the scamming going on." - Timelord2067. Indeed, everything is pointing that way from where i'm looking. There seems to be different farmed accounts for different purposes. Some scam or pump, some sell, some spam,. An evolving ecosystem. I linked 209 ALPHABET accounts, explained and posted again here recently. (previous page) I am certain the ABCD accounts are the same farmer. And others. All unhindered by theymos. WTF is going on! My "90" list (aug 8/9 accounts) published recently shows (if you read that way) how these accounts are not created for selling. They are created for pumping the latest scam here. (Bitsler, waves, chronobank.io. stratis, Qtum to name a few) Lulling newbies, and people who look but never register here, to part from their btc. (most of the people scammed must be very naive, but that doesn't lessen the plot, and still blackens the btc perception) (added - are these ico's now being made to order/rota "peimarily" for bitcointalk? more research needed, no time as yet) If i can easily find these accounts, theymos already knows. Of course, theymos will probably say these scams are legit business proposals. If they were, they would not need all these farmed accounts pumping would they, creating a false sense of legitimacy and popularity. (like my favourite scamcoin neucoin. they would pay cointelegraph to publish untruth's to deceive/scam their own readers) I am a little time constrained in my searches, and am greatly hindered by the lack of any admin input (lol). The lack of any forum tools, or (usable) member search facility. (that has been disabled) theymos has never responded. Signature campaigns have got "a bit" cleaner lately, since my input was making clear how many "farmed" accounts were taking the places of real members. (not that many real members would want to advertise the latest batch of scams would they?) Farmed accounts probably created by campaign managers or admin to sig spam with impunity. Any "innocent" campaign manager worth his salt would have seen they were paying farmed accounts. The forum was on it's knee's under the weight of spam until (i speculate) i forced SMAS to pretend to be against spam. But previously they helped create the problem. Even Fatanut now running the sig campaign list, with full support from Yahoo. Fatanut is a farmed account with many scammy "brother accounts". I see no evidence of that account being sold. I wouldn't really care if it was sold. To me anyone buying an account does so to deceive here. Senior DT members must also be involved. Their inaction shows this. The forum hacks? Ok, maybe incompetence, but then to allow all the old accounts (that were hacked and sold?) to come back to life here. Many are easily identifiable. Probably johnybigs? More profits for "scammers". It feels to me like Greg maxwell is also compliant. He moderates here. He allows all this scamming of real bitcoiners. Driving away adopters to keep his 1mb block intact, while building up monero. Satoshi must be fuming. The go-to btc site, and the btc devs of "default" are killing what they should be nurturing - Bitcoin. There is a bigger picture to find here. Others here (or gone more likely) must see the same. Someone's gotta stand up for Bitcoin here. I thought you were clever because you can be a FBI agent in investigation department, but you were not clever to guess their motivation-make bitcoin. It is a joke you said: They are created for pumping the latest scam here. (Bitsler, waves, chronobank.io. stratis, Qtum to name a few). You have no brain to speculate, you claim they are scams without evidences, just you see they bump them? Come on, they are all legit sites or projects if you do research. Bitsler is famous dice site and never had a problem you call it scam? Waves, chronobank, stratis are all good projects, you call them scam? Bitcoin core dev, Nicolas Dorier is working at Stratis for their bitcoin C# full nodes. Qtum is invested by famous bitcoin celebrities like Xu star(okcoin CEO), Bo Shen at Ripple, more info: https://qtum.org/team/ I suspect you are the altcoin hater claims every legit project is scam? There are so many fucking scams you don't blame but you blame legit projects which all people know. Otherwise you have low IQ lower than 70? Mod is correct, get a new hobby. Without 10k or more active thousands of farmed accounts, farming is a double-edged sword, it helps the bitcoinn forum, without them, the forum can't be successful, bitcoin can't be either, if you are a bitcoiner, you should be happy on the $1000 price. You need to thank them, they bring the traffic, help bitcoin websites, companies promote to get more customers, bitcoin get more users. Mod is correct, get a new hobby. You, why not do some trading to make money, not be a police here, you want to be a mod, police? The world is unfair, you are so cynical, if you are so busying with finding accounts, why not make money instead? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on February 04, 2017, 02:20:20 AM Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465
(snip) Mod is correct, get a new hobby. Without 10k or more active thousands of farmed accounts, farming is a double-edged sword, it helps the bitcoinn forum, without them, the forum can't be successful, bitcoin can't be either, if you are a bitcoiner, you should be happy about the $1000 price. Do more trading to make money, not be a police here, you want to be a mod, police? The world is unfair, if you are so busying with finding accounts, why not make money instead? I notice Yohji Yamamoto is too afraid to use their Genesis Alt TM to post that claim. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on February 04, 2017, 04:36:14 AM Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465 (snip) Mod is correct, get a new hobby. Without 10k or more active thousands of farmed accounts, farming is a double-edged sword, it helps the bitcoinn forum, without them, the forum can't be successful, bitcoin can't be either, if you are a bitcoiner, you should be happy about the $1000 price. Do more trading to make money, not be a police here, you want to be a mod, police? The world is unfair, if you are so busying with finding accounts, why not make money instead? I notice Yohji Yamamoto is too afraid to use their Genesis Alt TM to post that claim. I supported riz long time ago, but he ignored my posts, he ignores local spammers but only focus on English spammers? Local spammers are much more than English. Now I just think he is a man without real job, daily research in everyone? Cheers for wasting time! Why you give me red trust? You fucking abuse your trust here. LMAO, you self-righteous world police like riz, get you life and a new hobby, like mod said. I believe these 2 new threads, Wings Spammers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.0 Russian Political Posters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0 are explained by this post, the mr green list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16405201#msg16405201 A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up. There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer. (i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive) My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016. I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post) and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post) I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016. Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys. I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists) I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig? I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016 907392 907397 907399 907400 907401 907402 907405 907406 No one can compare Chinese farmers, each of te farmer has more than 30 accounts, you can google it for further topics. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Gizfreak on February 06, 2017, 11:08:49 AM The solution? Start using a decent platform for discussing btc instead of this corrupt one.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: coolcoinz on February 06, 2017, 05:52:25 PM The solution? Start using a decent platform for discussing btc instead of this corrupt one. What platform are you talking about? How would you stop people from farming accounts there? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: electronicash on February 06, 2017, 07:35:56 PM The solution? Start using a decent platform for discussing btc instead of this corrupt one. What platform are you talking about? How would you stop people from farming accounts there? just disallow the registration or kinda like how eric of gfy.com did it. registration are going to be approved one by one after registrant is going to email theymos about it. we'll soon see one by one who sell accounts and then we'll mark each seller some feedback. the demands of account will be high and so does the price. we can also mark sold accounts as sold to track each. this is going to be fun. ;D Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BitHodler on February 06, 2017, 08:52:31 PM The solution? Start using a decent platform for discussing btc instead of this corrupt one. What platform are you talking about? How would you stop people from farming accounts there? just disallow the registration or kinda like how eric of gfy.com did it. registration are going to be approved one by one after registrant is going to email theymos about it. we'll soon see one by one who sell accounts and then we'll mark each seller some feedback. the demands of account will be high and so does the price. we can also mark sold accounts as sold to track each. this is going to be fun. ;D I am however a supporter of marking obvious sold accounts, but it's quite hard to accomplish this with less obvious cases. Who is then the person that should mark these accounts? The seller? The escow in question? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 06, 2017, 09:38:46 PM Staff doesn't have the time to go through all the just registered accounts to approve them or not. It's basically an impossible task with a forum of this magnitude. Sorry, that is wrong. As you said previously, It doesn't take much effort for riz to chase down your other farmed accounts. You are shooting yourself in your foot right now. theymos could easily identify/control farmed accounts. Much easier than me. He just doesn't want to. He is most likely a big part of the organised ring scamming here. By not acting over the last 5 months ignoring this thread, theymos has shown his approval of the situation. 700 farmed accounts listed by me, all scamming and/or spamming, unhindered by admin. Don't you see the picture here? I have found hundreds more not-yet-published farmed accounts. theymos will have seen those accounts too. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: BitHodler on February 06, 2017, 11:11:29 PM Staff doesn't have the time to go through all the just registered accounts to approve them or not. It's basically an impossible task with a forum of this magnitude. Sorry, that is wrong. As you said previously, It doesn't take much effort for riz to chase down your other farmed accounts. You are shooting yourself in your foot right now. theymos could easily identify/control farmed accounts. Much easier than me. He just doesn't want to. He is most likely a big part of the organised ring scamming here. By not acting over the last 5 months ignoring this thread, theymos has shown his approval of the situation. 700 farmed accounts listed by me, all scamming and/or spamming, unhindered by admin. Don't you see the picture here? I have found hundreds more not-yet-published farmed accounts. theymos will have seen those accounts too. I however find it not really appropriate to link him to (in your words) organised ring scamming. He knows that the far majority of the accounts posting here are alt accounts, and thus banning them won't be a good move from his point of view. If these accounts with their connected IPs get perma banned, the forum will look like an empty parking place. If you look at it from that point, then things aren't as easy as they might seem. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: actmyname on February 07, 2017, 12:20:57 AM With staff I was more referring to any non admin level staff member as the admins are too busy according to themselves. And when it comes to theymos, it's already known that he isn't planning to do anything regarding account farmers. I however find it not really appropriate to link him to (in your words) organised ring scamming. He knows that the far majority of the accounts posting here are alt accounts, and thus banning them won't be a good move from his point of view. If these accounts with their connected IPs get perma banned, the forum will look like an empty parking place. If you look at it from that point, then things aren't as easy as they might seem. It might not be a good move financially, but wouldn't it benefit the community ecosystem more? If you think that the forum will look like an empty parking space, then that's simply absurd. Plenty of guests visit here (and perhaps lurkers who do not post) and lots of individuals (without tons of farmed accounts) are active on the forum, myself included. If you clear away the farmed accounts, then that will set a precedent - and it would not necessarily have to be repeated since the owners would be less inclined to create more just to have them banned [or perhaps there could be units of evil associated with their IPs]. Even if the accounts were 50% of active members, so what? This forum was not created solely to appeal to those who want to have an easy time shitting up the place. Let me ask you a question - would you rather earn your pay working in a place built out of guano, and having to wade through a sea of vomit... or instead have it halved, but have it take place in a clean office space with plenty of helpful co-workers? (The analogy is not the best but it at the very least creates some imagery) Maybe a decline in account farmers would also mean a decreased payout for signature campaigns, or even fewer campaigns in general - which would probably be good. If people are interested in the technology rather than the profit (albeit small) that they can make from Bitcoin, then we would see it grow more. Who's more likely to invest in it? Some jobless person who doesn't speak English running low on cash, or someone interested in what makes Bitcoin tick? Even a little intrigue goes a long way - I read through a good portion of the documentation and guide, and it was very enlightening. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: electronicash on February 07, 2017, 03:45:20 AM if a person wants to register his own account he has to wait in line who are to be approved. if he can't wait, he can always buy. but then again, the bought account can possibly be tagged - thats the catch.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on February 07, 2017, 10:48:22 AM if a person wants to register his own account he has to wait in line who are to be approved. if he can't wait, he can always buy. but then again, the bought account can possibly be tagged - thats the catch. Looks like someone is trying to earn that sig. money? ::)theymos could easily identify/control farmed accounts. Much easier than me. I concur. A fair amount of these accounts could be easily detected, and it's quite trivial to handle them. Either just ban them all or wipe them from the database.I have found hundreds more not-yet-published farmed accounts. theymos will have seen those accounts too. Now imagine how many more accounts there are that you have not found. More and more genuine people are leaving this place due to this very inaction. We could run this discussion infinitely though. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: botany on February 07, 2017, 02:47:34 PM Maybe a decline in account farmers would also mean a decreased payout for signature campaigns, or even fewer campaigns in general - which would probably be good. I doubt if that would be the case. If there is a decline in account farmers, my guess is that you would have signature campaigns paying higher for the remaining participants. Sites would anyway discount alt traffic when they take into account whether they want to advertise here or not. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: nydiacaskey01 on February 07, 2017, 04:02:01 PM Maybe a decline in account farmers would also mean a decreased payout for signature campaigns, or even fewer campaigns in general - which would probably be good. I doubt if that would be the case. If there is a decline in account farmers, my guess is that you would have signature campaigns paying higher for the remaining participants. Sites would anyway discount alt traffic when they take into account whether they want to advertise here or not. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: actmyname on February 07, 2017, 11:50:20 PM Maybe a decline in account farmers would also mean a decreased payout for signature campaigns, or even fewer campaigns in general - which would probably be good. I doubt if that would be the case. If there is a decline in account farmers, my guess is that you would have signature campaigns paying higher for the remaining participants. Sites would anyway discount alt traffic when they take into account whether they want to advertise here or not. Well, in either case then the result would only be positive for the community as a whole. It would be best to remove the account farmers and add units of evil to their IPs. This would also affect the account-trading market - the farmed accounts that were sold would also be banned and thus a slew of others would fall as well. Now unfortunately, there is no way to prove that you were sold an account due to the fact that one could simply sign a message indicating a past date for the trading of an account. Could it ever be possible to sort of "nuke" a non-newbie's posts, but keep them unbanned? (Or have something where if all of your posts are in Games & Rounds, you gain no activity) This would harm account farmers and keep the main accounts of those who bought accounts safe. I'm purely thinking of ways to impact only the worst offenders, though I don't condone account trading either. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 13, 2017, 06:18:29 PM 4 more accounts registered March 25 2016, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810722 tonguetides mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810725 dreamthim mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810726 dimmedoutline mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810733 romanticks (red trust) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, (connection to 24 other accounts on the same rota shown here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1787607.msg17839884#msg17839884 ) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 13, 2017, 08:28:01 PM I don't think i posted these 4 accounts yet? (they are not on my 500+ list)
And at least 1 has been discussed lately, i believe. April 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816165 johnlocke apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816168 kateaustin apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816171 jackshephard apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816173 jamesford apr 1, 21, may 11, jun 1, 10, jul 4 Hmmm... VERY much the same posing rota as in my post above. :D VERY much the same farmer. (connection to 24 other accounts on the same rota shown here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1787607.msg17839884#msg17839884 ) Make that 32 accounts on this posting rota. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 13, 2017, 08:48:37 PM Just trying to catch up , Apr 13, 2015. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505529 Greenenergy (242) may 11, 26, jun 4, 17, jul 4, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505530 Windpower (461) may 12, 26, jun 4, jul 4, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505533 Maskedman (133) may 13, 26, jun 4x2 jul 5, 21, aug 18, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505534 Honestman (13) may 13, 26, jun 5x2 jul 21, aug 18, These accounts were created a bit earlier on the same day. April 13 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505480 Cashew apr 30, may 6, 26, jun 4x2, 14, 17, 30 jul 20, aug 18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505481 Redrose may 6, 26, jun 4, 17, jul 4, 20, aug 18 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505482 Greentree may 6, 26, jun 4, 17, jul 4, 21, aug 18 VERY much the same farmer. (sorry for the edit, corrected) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 14, 2017, 02:11:38 PM September 5 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552262 Sled sep 6, 16, oct 12, 26, dec 7, jan 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552263 Nevis sep 6, 16, oct 12, dec 7, jan 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552264 Lust sep 6, 16, oct 12, 26, dec 7, jan 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552276 Finestream sep 5, 16, oct 12, 25, dec 7, jan 4, September 6 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552635 Doms sep 6, 16, oct 12, 26, dec 7, jan 4, Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 14, 2017, 03:20:24 PM June 19 2016 example of posting rota
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864288 flygirl0505 jun 21, 3.12am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864290 every7878 3.20am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864293 johnny11011 3.21am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864295 jackci123 3.22am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864297 nanay777 3.28am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864298 fight432100 3.29am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864300 follow-nana 3.31am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864301 number-o 3.31am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864302 bntggy928 3.50am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864304 raneedy 3.51am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864307 benjamin1880 jul 4, 4.43pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864309 christian2585 4.45pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864310 andrew3995 4.46pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864312 matthew1556 4.48pm These are all chinese. there are a few hundred more chinese farmed accounts within a few days of this period. continued, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864432 didiksky jun 21, 3.52am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864434 skyppg 3.55am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864435 nanayueky 4.10am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864437 tancresdi ---------- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864441 pangdmay 4.11am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864442 bbeiykli 4.12am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864443 gugujak 4.13am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864447 bbtune 4.22am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864449 bbxiota 4.23am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864451 bbmeyfa 4.25am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864453 asdin66fa 4.26am continued, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864686 guqisky jun 21, 4.32am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864687 todaykky 4.33am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864688 jackydm168 4.37am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864690 nunubei 4.29am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864691 herolyy 4.30am Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 16, 2017, 10:16:57 AM I don't think i posted these 4 accounts yet? (they are not on my 500+ list) And at least 1 has been discussed lately, i believe. April 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816165 johnlocke apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816168 kateaustin apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816171 jackshephard apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816173 jamesford apr 1, 21, may 11, jun 1, 10, jul 4 Hmmm... VERY much the same posing rota as in my post above. :D VERY much the same farmer. (connection to 24 other accounts on the same rota shown here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1787607.msg17839884#msg17839884 ) Make that 32 accounts on this posting rota. March 30 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814427 austien mar 30, apr 18, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814432 dawnasor mar 30, apr 18, 27, may 11, jun 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814438 towrenting mar 30, apr 18 may 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814442 hackahammer mar 30, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4, Make that 36 farmed accounts on this rota. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on February 17, 2017, 10:30:39 AM There are 23 UID with bone in their name...
and 43 UID with fanatic in their profile name... while 6/23 (about one quarter) that have bone in the name have a corresponding UID with fanatic created some three days either side of their creation date... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793039.msg17881608#msg17881608 http://archive.is/IqksK#selection-3193.0-4742.23 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: DiamondCardz on February 18, 2017, 02:34:33 PM It's all about the quest to farm sig money. Some of the amounts of money available are veeeerrrrryyyy appealing to people from countries like China (which you've already identified as a prolific country for account farmers). Luckily you can usually filter these kinds of people out through their quality of written English being extremely poor and their posts generally being off-topic and short. Patrol should get some of their posts but really, and I said this years ago too, account farming and spamming will stop when sig campaign managers become more selective. I see some are now taking a harder approach to poor English and spammy posts but not all do.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 18, 2017, 07:18:02 PM I have added 4 more farmed accounts to this rota list.
(found zupdawg and 3 others. zupdawg sig for 1xbit. scam. Who is their manager? march 22 2016. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16788074#msg16788074 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808819 checkmatesir mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 1, 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808820 hajimasan mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808821 murtleannie mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=808823 caxandra mar 22, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27, march 23 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16817072#msg16817072 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809396 haankoammu (122) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809398 springgers (305) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809399 bahubalis (13) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809426 draxcter (13) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809428 wildkens (200) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809433 doomistake (217) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809434 18thacccount (63) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809457 emblem2nd (72) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 12x... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809461 marleybobthedog (318) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809465 chooseusernam (43) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809527 rottenfruits (25) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809528 malcovixeffect (460) mar 23, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, 27 jul 20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810722 tonguetides mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810725 dreamthim mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810726 dimmedoutline mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810733 romanticks (red trust) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may 10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, March 25 2016. 11.30am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16649439#msg16649439 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810879 dimonstration (61) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16817072#msg16817072 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810882 BALIK (618) mar 25, apr 12, 26, may 10, 19, jun 1, 16 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16649439#msg16649439 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810884 umhhppp (55) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=810887 combayn (9) mar 25, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, March 28 2016 6.10am https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16649439#msg16649439 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812957 coynedterm (321) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812958 yonique (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812963 splitups (9) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812964 dharkmadder (122) mar 28, apr 18, 27, may10, 12, jun 10, jul 4, [/quote] March 30 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814427 austien mar 30, apr 18, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814432 dawnasor mar 30, apr 18, 27, may 11, jun 10, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814438 towrenting mar 30, apr 18 may 11, jun 10, jul 4, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814442 hackahammer mar 30, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4, March 31 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389 zupdawg *new* mar 31, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 *new* https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815392 qavhity *new* mar 31, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 *new* https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815393 anaderwan *new* mar 31, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 *new* https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815395 faradayz *new* mar 31, apr 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 *new* April 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816165 johnlocke apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816168 kateaustin apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816171 jackshephard apr 1, 21, 27, may 11, jun 10, jul 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816173 jamesford apr 1, 21, may 11, jun 1, 10, jul 4 Make that 40 accounts all on the same rota, registered over 11 days. Probably more to find. Hope it is becoming clear to everyone what is happening here. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 19, 2017, 03:17:57 PM Another 50 accounts to add these to the 208 Alphabet accounts already named. These carry on from where we left off.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg17654049#msg17654049 January 20 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=734434 Getmon jan 20, 30 feb 11, mar 8, apr 1, 22, may 7, 20, 27, January 21 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=735465 Haryford jan 21, 31 feb 10, 23 mar 6, apr 21 may 6, 19, 26, January 22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=736967 Jateng jan 22, 30 feb 10, 23 mar 6, apr 21 may 6, 19, 26, January 25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=740418 Kidmat jan 25, 31 feb 11, 24 mar 8, apr 1, 22, may 7, 27, January 26 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=741808 Listent jan 26, feb 10, 23 mar 6, 31 apr 21 may 6, 19, 26, January 28 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=745781 Maslate jan 28, feb 11, 24 mar 8, apr 1, 22 may 6, 19, 26, January 29 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=747003 Nasdam jan 29, feb 10, 23 mar 6, 31 apr 21 may 6, 19, 26, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=747042 Opekin jan 29, feb 11, 24 mar 8, apr 1, 22 may 6, 19, 26, January 30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=749204 Positid jan 30, feb 10, 23 mar 6, 31 apr 21 may 6, 19, 24 x ..., January 31 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=750503 Qumat jan 31, feb 11, 24 mar 8, apr 1, 22 may 7, 20, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=750557 Realetim jan 31, feb 10, 25 mar 9, apr 1, 21 may 7, 19, 26, February 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=751666 Satlite feb 1, 11, 26 mar apr 2, 22 may 7, 20, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=751988 Taskford feb 1, 10, 25 mar 9, apr 21, may 7, 19, 26, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=752220 Utrine feb 1, 11, 26 mar apr 2, 22 may 7, 20, 27, February 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=752430 Vollirra no posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=753312 Westfiled feb 2, 11, 26 mar apr 2, 22 may 7, 20, 27, February 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=754658 Xester feb 3, 25 mar 9 apr 1, 21 may 7, 20, 26, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=754697 Yussian feb 3, 26 mar apr 2, 24 may 7, 20, 28, February 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=755953 Zinkin feb 4, 25 mar 9 apr 1, 21 may 7, 20, 26, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=755960 Armstand feb 4, 26 mar apr 2, 24 may 7, 20, 28, February 5 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=757107 Bakemat feb 5, 25 mar apr 1, 21 may 7, 20, 26, February 7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=759982 Castreat feb 7, 26 mar apr 2, 24 may 7, 20, 28, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=761316 Dakron feb 7, 25 mar 9 apr 1, 21 may 7, 20, 26, February 8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=762147 Eternad feb 8, 26 mar apr 2, 24, may 7, 20, 28, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=762196 Fascinat feb 8, 25 mar 9 apr 1, 24, 27 may 7, 20, 27, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=762330 Genemon feb 8, 26 mar apr 2, 24 may 8, 20, 28, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=762350 Hatat feb 8, 25 mar 9 apr 1, 24 may 7, 20, 27, February 9 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=763588 Jating https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=763596 Kettler https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=763725 Lantind February 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=764228 Maticul https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=764516 Naughtis https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=764628 Ostonian February 11 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765331 Picturs https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765554 Quidat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765771 Rickers February 12 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=769067 Unilevear https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=769238 Vasetar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=769366 Wetlint February 13 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770038 Xetamin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770094 Yassarsian https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770282 Zedmony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770367 Ailmand February 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770651 Barraken https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770686 Casmania https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770742 Dannison https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770838 Etemind https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770913 Fasdata https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770963 Genamant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771115 Hadmart (i will add more details later today hopefully. maybe more accounts) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on February 20, 2017, 08:51:21 AM It's all about the quest to farm sig money. Some of the amounts of money available are veeeerrrrryyyy appealing to people from countries like China (which you've already identified as a prolific country for account farmers). Luckily you can usually filter these kinds of people out through their quality of written English being extremely poor and their posts generally being off-topic and short. Patrol should get some of their posts but really, and I said this years ago too, account farming and spamming will stop when sig campaign managers become more selective. I see some are now taking a harder approach to poor English and spammy posts but not all do. Big 5 spamming countries: Russia, Philippines, China, Indonesia, Turkey. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php See their post counts in local board. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: algo1024 on February 20, 2017, 09:14:21 AM Big 5 spamming countries: Russia, Philippines, China, Indonesia, Turkey. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php See their post counts in local board. It is from your trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=895384): "User actively encouraging the creation of 10,000 + BCT UID's to scam other users in the guise of promoting a product or service. http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465 (http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465)" Now you can get out. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 20, 2017, 07:05:38 PM Carrying on from the
(only took me an hour or 2 to find these. it takes longer to list them all. thanks theymos scammer) (i will not add anymore accounts in this post!) February 15 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771677 Inasin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771723 Jamada https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771748 Khazeter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771775 Latviand https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771861 Matarin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771904 Nancimy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771953 Opquar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=771988 Pencila https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772014 Questat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772114 Regionit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772162 Sitkack February 16 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772359 Tamilson https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772365 Unisonal https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772408 Vaslime https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772456 Wexnident https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772493 Xestadar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772546 Yadstiker https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772565 Zeelotin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772602 Alibatant February 17 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=773557 Bastime https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=773663 Catlatvia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=773770 Dentidan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774103 Evintiman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774239 Fastserv February 18 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774789 Genemind https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774885 Hafitdart https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775064 Inkdatar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775124 Jamitadson https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775192 Kidsgarter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775247 Latwindar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775282 Mahanton February 19 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776298 Natniadan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776393 Osarman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776411 Pendularin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776482 Quesdana https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776583 Retailatmon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776669 Saidmod https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776731 Trasnadian https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776775 Unidonade https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776839 Vastraint https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776863 Wevariant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776974 Xesdason February 20 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777552 Yadamosan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777578 Zemomtum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777628 Asmonist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777639 Basteron https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777853 Casmatesid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778097 Dadiansun February 21 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778563 Ewinsane https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778695 Fasdartin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778738 Gemniet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778892 Hagmonar February 22 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=779642 Insticator https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=779714 Janation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=779827 Koadharber https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=780077 Latreetim https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=780242 Macadonian February 23 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=780755 Natoliant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=780860 Osinarad https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=781083 Pesovanid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=781913 Qunetick February 24 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782768 Remainder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782805 Sanitough https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=783084 Trasamania https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=783247 Usuadog February 25 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=785629 Vinalians https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=785777 Weawant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=785916 Xetonica https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=786079 Yanisumin February 26 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=786769 Zetminster That makes 328 Alphabet accounts in plain sight to me, theymos, and now everyone else. I got a great new system going, can you tell? Loads more to follow! I will post 1 more alphabet of scammers. continuing, February 26 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=786837 Astermony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=786952 Biscutard https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787279 Camnates https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787402 Didcotam February 27 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=788377 Exsumane https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=788954 Fastmartin February 28 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=789483 Gestiside https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=789538 Hahnatise https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=789600 Innocant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=789747 Kasmonian February 29 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790523 Lastmoadman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790534 Makurika https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790584 Natuhant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790821 Osakiman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790975 Persiville March 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791520 Quickdart https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791590 Restmand https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791625 Sanugarid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791647 Traslavin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791746 Usainbot March 2 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=792677 Vatimins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=792795 Westingcote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=792821 Xesystme https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=793182 Yamifoud March 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=794199 Zedpust That is another 25 accounts, another alphabet. 328 + 25 = 353 Alphabet accounts listed, MORE to follow. I hope it is becoming clear what is going on here. Oh wait, there is only a few real members left. Nice one theymos. All these accounts found by myself in a couple hours today. Admin must be running this. Or they are retarded. (they run it!) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Yohji Yamamoto on February 21, 2017, 03:49:24 AM Big 5 spamming countries: Russia, Philippines, China, Indonesia, Turkey. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php See their post counts in local board. It is from your trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=895384): "User actively encouraging the creation of 10,000 + BCT UID's to scam other users in the guise of promoting a product or service. http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465 (http://archive.is/lofp2#selection-5195.0-5227.465)" Now you can get out. Get out what? You fucking idiot, have you read my post? And your IQ is as low as the guy who gave me the trust. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 21, 2017, 05:10:14 PM Before i carry on forward, I am listing the "missing letters" from previous Alphabet lists. Includes a full alphabet i missed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg17654049#msg17654049 Don't forget these alphabet accounts are (almost) all still active. They are all out to scam you. They are controlled protected by mods and admin. Dec 2 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=674617 Dofnatues Dec 6 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=679368 Nagadota https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=680126 Paultango Dec 8 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=681687 Signaturan Dec 9 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=682894 Tantlizbat Dec 10 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684514 Ultrabat Dec 12 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=686660 Xenoblate Dec 13 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=688084 Yesterdam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=688124 Zosinburg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=688170 Alphagog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=688178 Boathouse Dec 14 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=689046 Casabrandy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=689065 Deepcleen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=689423 Estimated Dec 15 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=689927 Facilitator https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=690008 Gotottack https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=690147 Haliburton Dec 16 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=690828 Jacknife https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=690906 Kevinatin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=690925 Ludwish Dec 17 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=693292 Nathland https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=693935 Orielres https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=694417 Panzersin Dec 18 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=695876 Redkan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=695975 Sanguintan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696105 Technicrate Dec 19 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696926 Universat Dec 21 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=700093 Semidetached Dec 30 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=710241 Edwardard https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=710733 Factmine Jan 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=711843 Golftech https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=711877 Haswell Jan 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=713704 Juliamit Jan 8 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=719384 Quarknet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=719584 Rumant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=719671 Simpan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=719695 Tascon Jan 9 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720079 Ushler https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720173 Vaculin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=720563 wedatin Jan 10 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721853 Sarspin Jan 11 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=722600 Tasmonid Jan 13 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726096 Unikol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=726109 Venon Jan 15 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=728196 Yusif https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=728778 Zenixin That is another 46 Alphabet accounts, bringing the total Alphabet accounts to 399. (i have already found more to follow on from march 3) I have updated my 500 list (now over 900?) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on February 25, 2017, 02:53:33 PM Another Alphabet list,
March 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=794576 Astonuse March 4 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=795347 Bostonias https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=795972 Casalania March 6 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798218 Distinctin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798245 Eternadars March 7 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=799041 Fasunathan G --- H --- I --- April 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816346 Japinat K --- April 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=817593 Lasvista https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=817753 Makinson April 5 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=818657 Natalim April 6 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819270 Oasisman April 8 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=820479 Persinon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=820640 Quickfant April 10 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=821689 Russlenat April 11 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=822364 Saidasun April 12 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=823025 Techray April 14 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=824450 Viscoat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=824578 Westand April 16 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=825772 Yasman April 17 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=826326 Zedpastin This list is very spread over weeks. Giving way to other farmed account attacks, same farmer. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 to find "some" of those other attacks listed in this time period. (other attacks listed on mar 22, 23, 25, 28, 30, 31, apr 1, all on same post rota, including rottenfruits, malcovixeffect and dawnasor) I also have the following Alphabet list ready to publish, taking us to June 11 2016. I will likely add today onto this post. All clearly the "official" theymos controlled farmer. ====================================== Ok, let's just get on with it, April 18 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=826859 Asnatin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=827202 Botnake April 19 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=827837 Cakalasia May 4 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836211 Ditonlin May 5 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836839 Estonic May 9 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=838691 Fatinan May 13 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840898 Gestinar May 19 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=844164 Hamstead May 21 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=845158 Intersan May 22 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=845517 Jatmin May 28 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=849498 Kasabus May 31 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851288 Latmist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851325 Makatoshi June 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851632 Natilam June 6 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855574 Perman June 7 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=855894 Quietman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856163 Rustin June 8 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856789 Satisun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857105 Umisater June 9 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857747 Vistman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857757 Westinhome https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857765 Xitisang June 11 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858923 Zefasen 2 Alphabet lists spread over 13 weeks (64000 accounts) easy to find, given the right tools and a will to look! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on March 09, 2017, 12:32:32 PM Found another 24th of November 2016...
Code: Name: wallflower! u=923256 http://archive.is/ZeMKG Giving the alt known as quickseller positive trust: Quote Quickseller -499: -9 / +13 2016-11-24 0.02000000 Reference I absolutely trust and cherish this friendly, reliable and most professional user who is in the rare position of being able to speed up the confirmation of a longtime unconfirmed bitcoin transaction. He saved me from having my bitcoin transaction remaining in limbo, for - in some cases - an undefined amount of time, thus, kept me away from a total nightmare! Total Time Spent Online: 7 hours and 6 minutes. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on March 09, 2017, 12:44:16 PM Another Alphabet list, March 7 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=799041 Fasunathan G --- H --- I --- April 1 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816346 Japinat K --- April 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=817593 Lasvista https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=817753 Makinson My money is on: Code: Name: iwantapony u=815246 This user's email address was changed recently. Gives the alt known as quickseller positive trust: Quote iwantapony 3: -0 / +2 2017-03-06 0.00000000 Sold him total $500 worth of bitcoin for MoneyGram...Trade went smooth i sent first ! and receives in kind: Quote Quickseller -499: -9 / +13 2017-03-06 0.00000000 My cash for his btc a couple of times. He sent first. Smooth trading. All of the trust (both given and received) is since the 20th January 2017. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on March 09, 2017, 09:48:40 PM Another Alphabet list, G --- H --- I --- My money is on: Code: Name: iwantapony u=815246 Thanks for keeping a look out for the missing letters Timelord2067, After checking iwantapony's post history, iwantapony is not the missing "I" from that alphabet list. However, iwantapony was farmed with 40 (listed to date) other accounts, including rottenfruits, malcovixeffect, splitups and dawnasaw to name a few. I wrote about this batch quite recently here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg17897299#msg17897299 (previous page) That trust is interesting, although out of my realm. I'm a bit confused about the "24th nov" date. I thought it was significant on older dormant accounts reactivating, not ones created on that day. I found hundreds of "old" accounts all being reactivated on 24 nov 2016, and other more recent dates. (40% of ALL old accounts i randomly looked at had been "reactivated". therefore, there must be thousands in total. no comment from theymos, mods and DT 1. just another part of their btc grabbing scaming imo) I probably need to re-read the known alts thread again. edit - also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815241 furrnature https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815243 stomachgrowls u=815246 iwantapony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815249 ilovefeetsmell That make a set of four more to add to the other 40 accounts created on the same rota. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Quickseller on March 11, 2017, 07:37:43 AM I'm a bit confused about the "24th nov" date. I thought it was significant on older dormant accounts reactivating, not ones created on that day. This is most likely accounts getting hacked. The members list was leaked in the hack that occurred in 2015 that included the hash of accounts' passwords -- passwords need to be cracked individually so it is probably that someone was able to crack these accounts' passwords, likely because they had weak passwords.I found hundreds of "old" accounts all being reactivated on 24 nov 2016, and other more recent dates. (40% of ALL old accounts i randomly looked at had been "reactivated". Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Henkkaa on March 11, 2017, 08:22:59 AM I would like to report here a serial farmer as seen in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1795842.new#new
This dude posts that he will pay 500EMC for a fun gambling method, and this dude fires up all his shills and posts with all of them in a row. All of these accounts have almost identical posting history and were all made on February 4th nearly 5 minutes apart from eachother. Obvious account farmer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951699 - ajipraz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951702 - salmankan520 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951706 - abrahamas46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951707 - lenon90 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951708 - clark007 I am asking all of you (especially DT), go tag them red to stop this account farming trend. Cheers! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on March 11, 2017, 07:38:44 PM I would like to report here a serial farmer as seen in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1795842.new#new This dude posts that he will pay 500EMC for a fun gambling method, and this dude fires up all his shills and posts with all of them in a row. All of these accounts have almost identical posting history and were all made on February 4th nearly 5 minutes apart from eachother. Obvious account farmer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951699 - ajipraz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951702 - salmankan520 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951706 - abrahamas46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951707 - lenon90 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951708 - clark007 I am asking all of you (especially DT), go tag them red to stop this account farming trend. Cheers! Thanks for reporting Henkkaa. I found a few other connected accounts, same poster. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951687 trujtyfdhy@yahoo.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951692 judgeme https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951695 coral212 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951697 organizm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951698 martie222 --- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951699 - ajipraz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951702 - salmankan520 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951706 - abrahamas46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951707 - lenon90 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951708 - clark007 --- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951713 yighftyf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951715 michele21 You likely wont get a response from DT except to say it is allowed blah blah. They and the mods cover for theymos who controls many hundreds of farmed accounts imo. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0 However, these farmed accounts look like a lone operator to me, not under theymos control. Therefore he likely will be banned. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Timelord2067 on March 11, 2017, 11:33:16 PM I would like to report here a serial farmer as seen in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1795842.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1795842.new#new) This dude posts that he will pay 500EMC for a fun gambling method, and this dude fires up all his shills and posts with all of them in a row. All of these accounts have almost identical posting history and were all made on February 4th nearly 5 minutes apart from eachother. Obvious account farmer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951699 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951699) - ajipraz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951702 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951702) - salmankan520 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951706 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951706) - abrahamas46 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951707 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951707) - lenon90 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951708 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951708) - clark007 I am asking all of you (especially DT), go tag them red to stop this account farming trend. Cheers! You should have the courage to tag them yourself first before you demand others do your bidding... Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Henkkaa on March 12, 2017, 06:08:10 PM You should have the courage to tag them yourself first before you demand others do your bidding... I'm sorry, I forgot to do that. Tagged them now!Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Chris! on May 14, 2017, 05:45:26 PM These accounts can get crossed off the list if they had made it on there yet. It's baby steps but there is some perma-banning going on at least. Apparently the OP of the thread says he had a whole office just spamming bitcointalk. We'll see if he gives up more names, but I highly doubt it.
Are these your "office accounts"? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=920630 bitbunni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=861826 Rastaman2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=910928 Sierra82fit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909262 wutard https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858133 Winter1986 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=863474 coszy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858136 Dizaster2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=861828 Drago2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856762 ZlaiaZaia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=907401 one-day0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926796 Cherry Girl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=863480 ovvidiy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=927024 grenade launcher https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856719 Berns 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Allowed? Post by: sinner on July 06, 2017, 09:59:41 PM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts?
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 06, 2017, 11:34:13 PM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts? Just fyi, scamming is 'allowed' on this forum but is highly frowned upon. Same with account farming. Theymos doesn't give a shit, but the community is very into vigilante justice. That's why. Same thing applies to account sales. They're allowed but I and some other members tag them with red when we catch them.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: dillpicklechips on July 07, 2017, 05:32:14 AM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts? But spamming that is posting trashily is not allowed. Account farming is often characterized having this kind of trait hence they are violating the forum rules and ruining the forum itself. 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. 2. No off-topic posts. 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed. 33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed. These are the common forum rules that are violated due to account farming and they can also violate other forum rules since it can be used more than just for farming. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on July 07, 2017, 06:55:10 AM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts? Just because the current owner (remember, this is not theymoses forum) has a flawed policy, that does not mean that people should stand by and accept it. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousetc on July 07, 2017, 09:00:40 AM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts? Some people don't agree with the rules or think it's shady/destructive behaviour. It's a similar situation with Scammers and account sellers. Neither behaviour will get you banned from here but it will likely get you negative feedback. Something needs to be done about account farming though because it's gotten way out of hand. Admins rarely seem to look into any cases either. There's literally hundreds of spam accounts copying and pasting and shitposting away in the Chinese sections and as soon as they hit the required rank they all join a shitcoin ico campaign and start spamming even more. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 07, 2017, 10:05:23 AM just out of curiosity, if account farming is allowed, why are you guys going through the trouble to identify farmed accounts? Some people don't agree with the rules or think it's shady/destructive behaviour. It's a similar situation with Scammers and account sellers. Neither behaviour will get you banned from here but it will likely get you negative feedback. Something needs to be done about account farming though because it's gotten way out of hand. Admins rarely seem to look into any cases either. There's literally hundreds of spam accounts copying and pasting and shitposting away in the Chinese sections and as soon as they hit the required rank they all join a shitcoin ico campaign and start spamming even more. I couldn't agree more.. I also seen I think theymos post here long ago you should make more accounts if you had something controversial to say. When I read that I was rather surprised. Staff here advocate the behavior. They are likely guilty of it as well. Me? I have logged into and created one single account. Why do I need others? ..there is no good reason Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousetc on July 07, 2017, 10:12:06 AM In theory I agree with people being allowed to have multiple accounts if they want to keep certain opinions or business separate from their main/known account but people have massively abused the rule that you can have as many accounts as you wish. This is one reason why I suggested we should remove signatures from rank and make people pay a fee for them. This will instantly stop such industrial scale account farming. At the moment if somebody wants 1000 accounts they can easily create them all for free. Use a bot to copy and paste content and you can rank them all up with no time or effort wasted on your part whatsoever.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 07, 2017, 12:09:25 PM Theymos should hire a task force to hunt these douche bags down..
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: sinner on July 07, 2017, 03:23:30 PM Some people don't agree with the rules or think it's shady/destructive behaviour. It's a similar situation with Scammers and account sellers. Neither behaviour will get you banned from here but it will likely get you negative feedback. Something needs to be done about account farming though because it's gotten way out of hand. Admins rarely seem to look into any cases either. There's literally hundreds of spam accounts copying and pasting and shitposting away in the Chinese sections and as soon as they hit the required rank they all join a shitcoin ico campaign and start spamming even more. interesting. i agree with your and others arguments. it's surprising that theymos doesn't ban account farming after seeing this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0 Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread. Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: coolcoinz on July 07, 2017, 10:02:33 PM I've seen some of them farming and it's not that hard to spot. They login with 1 account, open 5 or more tabs with different threads, write short response in each, switch accounts and repeat. Next thing you have a thread full of short responses by newbie/jr accounts and all of them within an hour or two.
I agree that there should be some people assigned to finding and banning mass farmers. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 08, 2017, 03:59:50 AM It could be easy to offer some BTC to someone such as guys on this topic to go through and clean house.
A show of force may curb the out of control behavior. Mass account creation and mass garbage posting is not good. So maybe a new rule is needed? Additional accounts are permitted if users are being reasonable about it. Why does a guy need to create 20 at once? Is there a legit reason for THAT many to be made? This issue permeates the whole site.. Seen off topic? WOW what a joke! It is nothing but lobbing softball questions for account farmers to pad their stats with. If theymos wants this place flooded by world wide scammy douche bags bloating the database to extreme levels then so be it. As a user here though the price will be mods frustrated and taking it out on all of us and more rules being added.. Why do you think they banned giveaway topics. If one section is bloating the database it will have to recouped at some point. There is a flood and if no one wants to plug the hole in the damn then oh well I guess. Let us drown in a sea of shit. Although good users will just leave.. Leaving mass farmers here to circle jerk it up. People do leave this forum because of how it's run and the idiots running rampant. ::) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on July 08, 2017, 07:45:45 AM It could be easy to offer some BTC to someone such as guys on this topic to go through and clean house. I concur. Mass account creation and mass garbage posting is not good. Thousands of people got scammed as a direct result of that.So maybe a new rule is needed? Yes.Additional accounts are permitted if users are being reasonable about it. Why does a guy need to create 20 at once? I can reasonably argue the need for a maximum of 2 more alt accounts. A number higher than that, I can't explain with anything other than sig. spamming, bounty abuse and whatnot.Is there a legit reason for THAT many to be made? If theymos wants this place flooded by world wide scammy douche bags bloating the database to extreme levels then so be it. This seems to be the case for now. The forum suffered a huge loss with the departure of BadBear. Whilst the addition of Cyrus helped a lot with account recoveries, he can't even remotely make up for the Bear.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: KWH on July 08, 2017, 04:05:04 PM If theymos wants this place flooded by world wide scammy douche bags bloating the database to extreme levels then so be it. This seems to be the case for now. The forum suffered a huge loss with the departure of BadBear. Whilst the addition of Cyrus helped a lot with account recoveries, he can't even remotely make up for the Bear.That is the way this forum has been headed for quite sometime. It causes myself and others to lose interest here but it's his forum and his rules. :-X Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Timelord2067 on July 09, 2017, 12:17:21 AM A very simple way to stop the bot registrations would be to introduce the text capture + question and answer when registering and up to a definable number of posts (ie 1, 10, 100 posts)
I've set up a couple of forums (links in my signature) as well I am an administrator on the sexcoinforum.com - all of which use simple machine's forum engine as their base. If Theymos wants to continue to allow the very false perception that there are over one million people using BitCoins, then we need to make the media aware on our own when that lie is repeated in the media. *IF* on the other hand Theymos just doesn't know what to do, then he/she should just start a thread admitting s/he can't cope and ask for suggestions from all members, not just the forum administrator's who are propping up this lie.
Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/MOcQi#selection-1917.0-1999.102 Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Pearls Before Swine on July 09, 2017, 12:45:25 AM
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 09, 2017, 03:59:03 AM Pearls he did though.. There used to be a nooby jail..
I know I was stuck in there for a bit when I registered here. I concur mostly. The place is over run and SIG campaigns are a key problem. Why not just ban them? Idiots don't need to make pennies with them.. They can get a job at McDonald's. And freezing account registration is a great idea. For me it sucks looking in some sections. How can I use the off topic section when it is abused like that? The section is rendered unusable. Does that section even add to your activity here? I suspect most users claiming their account to was stolen are lying. I don't think account sales should be allowed. It is an avenue of scam now. These scammers and spammers know how to game the system here hard.. And instead of making the NOOB jail time limit longer it was Removed. I still can't believe they ditched it. But yeah if theymos needs help to get the ship running right then ask. A lot of people would be willing to help how ever he wants it. Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: LoyceV on July 09, 2017, 06:20:30 AM 90 day freeze on all new registrations - seriously, there aren't tens of thousands wanting to sign up. When I joined this forum, it was to be able to post. I had been reading before. If I would have had to wait 90 days after signup, I wouldn't be here now.Quote Banned means banned use the IP ban function - that's what it's there for. Units of Evil are used based on IPs. If a spambot uses many IPs from his ISP, that would mean other users from the same ISP can get a banned IP too. Tor and VPN wouldn't be possible anymore.Quote re-introduce the scammer tag I prefer a ban-tag over a scam-tag.Quote Ban the sale of UID's It's impossible to enforce that.I'd like to see changes to the forum too, but not in such a way that it stops legit users from joining. I would for instance love to see shitposters banned, but it's time-consuming to find them, and a gray area for those who are on the border of being shitposters. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on July 09, 2017, 11:31:18 AM That is the way this forum has been headed for quite sometime. It causes myself and others to lose interest here but it's his forum and his rules. :-X There was a community council or something, which could vote for his removal AFAIK. I have no idea if this exists anymore.
When I joined this forum, it was to be able to post. I had been reading before. If I would have had to wait 90 days after signup, I wouldn't be here now. That you can't really know.Quote re-introduce the scammer tag I prefer a ban-tag over a scam-tag.Quote Ban the sale of UID's It's impossible to enforce that.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 09, 2017, 11:54:51 AM You have any idea how many flippant snotty NOOBS told me they have been here for many years but never registered?
So bullshit. Murder is impossible to enforce so should we simply drop the law? That logics is a cliche here. That is what people say about scam coins. I seen that retort defending every aspect of bad behavior here lots. Pick anything.. Then some idiot says we'll.. It can't be stopped. Bullshit. If enough people are seen getting a hard punch in the fucking head.. I can assure you most will think twice. VS... Doing literally nothing at all. Do you even smart? People who defend bad behavior are bad people. I can't believe the level of shit that has risen up here on this forum. Have you all been to another forum before? I've been in many and run some of my own and moderated in some big ones too and NOTHING like this has ever happened. This is a retarded shit show from hell. I was a Mod at cs.rin.ru I was banned for scratching my ass at Neowin.net more than once. Here? WOW. Let me point out how half the sleazy little pricks here say this is their job. They say this forum is their business Many say they have no other income. Theymos has a sticky warning user's about PayPal charge backs but.. Says nothing about the widely known fact it is a violation of the TOS. And that when caught PP will seize your account and take your money.. And... Launch one hell of a nasty hellish investigation (mine was about 2.5 mo's long) .... Leaving all the user trading in the market section ripped off. These guys told me they know.. And they have been caught but simply create a new forum account and a new PP account them continue on... Even if the previous account ripped off users after funds were seized. The market section has a large dedicated user base involved in fraud. We have known since 2012. When it happened to me in late 2013... I Google searched my PP email and I ended up seeing a guy with the same exact email POSTED HERE from PP in 2012. This is now nothing but a scam industry.. Not a forum. To be honest it's such a shit hole of greedy penny pinching shady scumbags I could care less if I was banned. The place is effectively usable in many sections and at best iratating. I did not sign up here to start a shady shit small business by account farming etc. I joined because this was a forum on crypto currencies. So you tell me who is the forum for now a days? Fix it.. Or suffer the consequences. It's bad enough as it is. How much worse do you want it to get? How many older legit users leavenuntil you care? As long as they are replaced by shady Altcoin sleaze balls throwing money around then who cares? Take your pick.. Scammy NOOBS or crypto currency SUPPORTERS. This is not my job. I did not sign up to start a business out of my forum account here. So who is theymos backing up.. Us or THEM? Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Chris! on July 09, 2017, 12:15:50 PM Guys it's fine. Everything will be fixed on the new forum in
Ideally sales would be permanently bannable all involving parties (buyer, seller and escrow if available). This would destroy most of this shady *endeavor*. IMO, buyer and seller get perma-banned, IP banned and as Spoetnik put it so delicately: a hard punch in the fucking head.. The escrow should get 1 warning (30 day ban?) to never touch this shady crap ever again, then if they circumvent that they also get the same treatment. So bullshit. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on July 09, 2017, 12:27:35 PM You have any idea how many flippant snotty NOOBS told me they have been here for many years but never registered? Indeed.Murder is impossible to enforce so should we simply drop the law? That's the current policy on account sales, among other things.IMO, buyer and seller get perma-banned, IP banned and as Spoetnik put it so delicately: Along with all their accounts; I concur. a hard punch in the fucking head.. The escrow should get 1 warning (30 day ban?) to never touch this shady crap ever again, then if they circumvent that they also get the same treatment. Why? They are perfectly aware of what they're doing and should be aware of the forum rules. I know a few individuals that are willing to escrow that crap. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Spoetnik on July 09, 2017, 12:55:55 PM When I started here there was no such thing as an ICO.. Or a. SIG campaign.
I also was stuck in the nooby jail section. Things have changed drastically And the lack of a show of force makes it look like theymos approves of it all. There is a variety of problems ongoing that seem to grow larger.. And all I know is I vote "punch in the fucking head" ahahahah Oh yeah I forgot.. And account banning etc too LOL It's a forum for fuck sakes not a business. Or is it? If theymos let's everyone else monetize this place then it's fair to speculate he is getting a slice of the pie above the donation money Which I was told in 2013 was over a million dollars back when BTC was sub $50. In other words it seems like he likes it this way. I'd be curious what his thoughts are on some of these common complaints.. Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Timelord2067 on July 10, 2017, 12:52:03 AM Somebody must be getting close to a major expose - Theymos has restricted the number of topics that can be searched to just five at a time.
Doubtful it could be anything other than they have something to hide. Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Timelord2067 on July 10, 2017, 12:10:53 PM [quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=1597201.msg20038809#msg20038809 date=1499647923]
Somebody must be getting close to a major expose - Theymos has restricted the number of topics that can be searched to just five at a time. Doubtful it could be anything other than they have something to hide. [/quote] Seeing as it's been ten to twelve hours and no-one's come up with any other explanation, how about one for the tin-foil hat brigade: Theymos has done a "deal" with the FBI (or similar Govt agency) to "allow" them to take control of BCT so that the FBI can investigate all the scammers - by giving them an unfettered playground to fester in, then when the FBI has the information they need to start prosecutions, the whole gaping wound will be shut down. Then again, there's these: https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob6a3c05b8d237ce18.jpeg https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob6cbb177a21a6f324.jpeg https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob5e89155c473d76b0.jpeg which speak volumes for how distorted from reality this forum has become. As always, archived for future reference: http://archive.is/tdB0N#selection-5593.0-5629.42 Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Timelord2067 on July 11, 2017, 12:10:30 AM Somebody must be getting close to a major expose - Theymos has restricted the number of topics that can be searched to just five at a time. Doubtful it could be anything other than they have something to hide. ...and overnight the Trust system has been further eroded with the removal of a person's trust scores inside the actual trust wall - further clouding who can be trusted and who's entries hold weight or not. Title: Re: Account farming. *NOT* Allowed!!! Post by: Spoetnik on July 11, 2017, 01:25:55 AM Somebody must be getting close to a major expose - Theymos has restricted the number of topics that can be searched to just five at a time. Doubtful it could be anything other than they have something to hide. Trust profiles were not loading for users with a long list.. Lots of noobs in crypto last few months and all services are getting overloaded because of it. I also recall staff or theymos himself maybe saying to use Google instead.. long ago. Because it is faster and gives better results. (or some shit like that) I think there was mention too it can be a server load burden. So as much as i am all for a theymos conspiracy theory i think he is just trying to lower the server load. Don't believe me ? See my topic called did theymos hack Cryptsy ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1664935.0 The POLL results were surprisingly close too :o Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: sinner on July 28, 2017, 09:12:29 AM so i've turned off signatures and ignore people more frequently now.. ya, account farming is a problem.
i wish bitcointalk had a subforum or subsection of boards that required either a payment or a stake. though i doubt that will ever happen. :( Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousandco on July 28, 2017, 09:26:44 AM so i've turned off signatures and ignore people more frequently now.. ya, account farming is a problem. i wish bitcointalk had a subforum or subsection of boards that required either a payment or a stake. though i doubt that will ever happen. :( I have suggested something like this before. Either as a perk included in more donator ranks, or a board where signatures and possibly posts do not count towards post count and activity. Sig spammers and account farmers would likely then leave it alone unless they actually had something worthwhile and constructive to say. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: karmakeddon on October 02, 2017, 09:13:06 PM i wish bitcointalk had a subforum or subsection of boards that required either a payment or a stake. though i doubt that will ever happen. :( Been reading this thread and I do agree on having a section where it either is pay to access or a section that sig spammers do not get paid to post in. If and when that happens, users and i mean real users would find meaningful conversation in there. But then again, I'm just a lowly scrub and my opinion does not matter most of the time. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on October 19, 2017, 01:25:06 AM @rizzlarolla. Do you want to start looking for farmed accounts again? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and they sometimes get accepted by some managers who might be unaware.
Please check this account and the rest that are connected to it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=120945 Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 19, 2017, 05:57:29 PM @rizzlarolla. Do you want to start looking for farmed accounts again? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and they sometimes get accepted by some managers who might be unaware. Please check this account and the rest that are connected to it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=120945 Hey bbc.reporter. With respect to you, No, i do not intend to start looking at farmed accounts again. I could, and have, found many more farmed accounts than i published. I have proven my point. That point being theymos is the master scammer here. He wants to steal your Bitcoins. Everybody's Bitcoins. There is no point me being here now. A massive % of accounts here are under his scamming control. The account you ask me to look at? Since i busted theymos's farming scam ring, he needed new techniques - hacked accounts. I also publicised that scam. For every account taken down by "us" theymos has 100 more. theymos is the enemy here. theymos is an enemy of Bitcoin. theymos is 100% scam. Don't waste your time here bbc.reporter. This place is a distraction. Prepare for change on a global scale. You don't have long. I bid you good luck. May your God be with you. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: bbc.reporter on October 20, 2017, 01:23:31 AM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: actmyname on October 20, 2017, 02:42:55 AM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. I'm sure you can look through the post history of applicants and see how their posts are mainly in Games & Rounds, Altcoin airdrops, Off-topic or some other trash farm-filled board of the forum.rizzlarolla used to check alphabetical naming and the close proximity of uids, but there's not really much point in doing that anymore. Even now, if you just look through 2 (most likely just one) pages of a person's post history then you'll know whether the account is farmed or not. But usually in that case, the campaign managers would probably outright decline the participants (if they're any good). Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Merptastic on October 20, 2017, 03:59:12 AM I'm sure you can look through the post history of applicants and see how their posts are mainly in Games & Rounds, Altcoin airdrops, Off-topic or some other trash farm-filled board of the forum. Off-topic is always filled with shitposts like "What is your motto in life?", "Are you open minded?" or people quoting philosopher or other pretentious crap just to make it look like they're not shitposting. And threads that ask for "best this and that". Politics is always filled with "Do you this and that" shitpost. These crap just makes me want to participate less in the discussion and just buries good threads. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: californiaquail on October 20, 2017, 09:41:18 AM Quote people quoting philosopher or other pretentious crap just to make it look like they're not shitposting. Careful with that, some people and some cultures might appear like shitposting to others. Not everyone has a straight-to-the- point anglo saxon mentality Quote i wish bitcointalk had a subforum or subsection of boards that required either a payment or a stake. though i doubt that will ever happen. Sad Yeah not really, exclusive low volume forums are terrible. might as well move to facebook.One thing they can't fake is Seniority : what I would do is evualuate the seniority and make it at least as visible as the the actual "star/ranking" system. I don't see any cons in that, it could expose every Sr Member shitposters that registered 3 months ago, and take some money/value off these recently farmed accounts since accounts with seniority would have more "street value/credit" so to speak. Another thing Maybe implementing Seniority / Post Count ratio, from 1 to 5 ( 5 being red "overactive member" lot of post, new member. 1 Being black ( inactive member ) few post, high seniority. That would be one non-coercitive way to fight the problem. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: LoyceV on October 20, 2017, 10:48:01 AM Another thing Maybe implementing Seniority / Post Count ratio, from 1 to 5 ( 5 being red "overactive member" lot of post, new member. I see no reason to assume a 5 year old account with 50 posts has better post quality than a 1 year old account with 1000 posts.1 Being black ( inactive member ) few post, high seniority. Based on your suggest, hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822) would have a dark red ratio with 13 posts per day. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 20, 2017, 06:38:46 PM rizzlarolla used to check alphabetical naming and the close proximity of uids, but there's not really much point in doing that anymore. Even now, if you just look through 2 (most likely just one) pages of a person's post history then you'll know whether the account is farmed or not. But usually in that case, the campaign managers would probably outright decline the participants (if they're any good). There isn't much point in checking alphabetical names (or some similar strategy) to find a single farmed account. But...(!) Once you find a single farmed account, there's a good chance that this type of strategy will reveal a shit load of other farmed accounts. Some of which might not otherwise become obvious for months/years from now. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 20, 2017, 06:45:16 PM I'm sure you can look through the post history of applicants and see how their posts are mainly in Games & Rounds, Altcoin airdrops, Off-topic or some other trash farm-filled board of the forum. Off-topic is always filled with shitposts like "What is your motto in life?", "Are you open minded?" or people quoting philosopher or other pretentious crap just to make it look like they're not shitposting. And threads that ask for "best this and that". Politics is always filled with "Do you this and that" shitpost. These crap just makes me want to participate less in the discussion and just buries good threads. I've been reporting shitposters like a madman lately, and they usually lay their eggs in the huge spam threads. They're pretty easy to spot and I suspect a lot of them are farming accounts in addition to sig spamming. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 20, 2017, 11:25:03 PM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. No sig manager is tricked. They are all theymos controlled, all playing their role, all lining their pockets above real bitcoiners, all cashing in on your misery. My method was simple and foolproof, but if you cannot see it, you probably cannot be taught. Funny, no one else seemed to see it either. Bit like looking up to the sky. No one else (i should say not many) see's the problems coming our way. Have you looked up lately? Have you seen the sun? Really? I should not be here, but it is nice to see a few old faithful members. Twitchy - full respect to you - an honest and dedicated member. Loyce v - respect to you sir, the pharmasist, actmyname still banging heads on brick walls - respect for that. bbc.reporter you unwittingly led my research here. theymos will pay for his crimes. But look up guys, look at what is important right now. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Quickseller on October 21, 2017, 04:53:23 AM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. No sig manager is tricked. They are all theymos controlled, all playing their role, all lining their pockets above real bitcoiners, all cashing in on your misery. Some of the farmed accounts might be used to push xxx altcoin, some might be used to push xxx ICO and some might be used to push other agendas (such as “core”). I would not go as far as to say theymos is behind this farming, I would say that the farming does fall in line with why theymos deems acceptable. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: maeusi on October 21, 2017, 05:52:35 AM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. No sig manager is tricked. They are all theymos controlled, all playing their role, all lining their pockets above real bitcoiners, all cashing in on your misery. My method was simple and foolproof, but if you cannot see it, you probably cannot be taught. Funny, no one else seemed to see it either. Bit like looking up to the sky. No one else (i should say not many) see's the problems coming our way. Have you looked up lately? Have you seen the sun? Really? I should not be here, but it is nice to see a few old faithful members. Twitchy - full respect to you - an honest and dedicated member. Loyce v - respect to you sir, the pharmasist, actmyname still banging heads on brick walls - respect for that. bbc.reporter you unwittingly led my research here. theymos will pay for his crimes. But look up guys, look at what is important right now. When I see, that so far honorable members suddenly start with conspiracy theories about theymos, then I wonder seriously whether they are still themselves. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 21, 2017, 05:57:50 AM When I see, that so far honorable members suddenly start with conspiracy theories about theymos, then I wonder seriously whether they are still themselves. Suddenly? The account farming and illiterate spamming has been going on for years, and it has destroying this place from inside out. It is the primary reason for which the majority of experts, as well as other legitimate people have already abandoned the forum. The remaining legitimate people are negatively effected by this, besides those that are outright scammers and criminals who profit off of this (see Quickseller as an example). Either:a) Theymos has bad policies. b) Theymos is involved. Those are not conspiracy theories, but rather potential, reasonable explanations for the stuff that has been going on around here. I'm more inclined to believe that it is 'a' given my history with theymos, but that is unfortunate as well given that he is the 'sole' ruler and often not willing to change stuff. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: nexus2k14 on October 21, 2017, 12:33:46 PM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. There should be better techniques in place to distinguish fake accounts from real. Sometimes genuine users can be accused of farming, and there is nothing they can do about it. I am sure 100% this happened already on this forum. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on October 21, 2017, 02:09:11 PM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. There should be better techniques in place to distinguish fake accounts from real. Sometimes genuine users can be accused of farming, and there is nothing they can do about it. I am sure 100% this happened already on this forum.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: nexus2k14 on October 21, 2017, 02:30:40 PM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. There should be better techniques in place to distinguish fake accounts from real. Sometimes genuine users can be accused of farming, and there is nothing they can do about it. I am sure 100% this happened already on this forum.Truth to be told I was accused by user I quoted above -> bbc.reporter Now he forgot after exchange PM what he said when accused me (I was selected and he was not) On last PM message he didn't bother to reply because he might realised that he actually made mistake. My point is - don't judge until guilty is proven. Now my account I can put in trash - because no one will accept me for campaign. I applied (first time in my life) - I was successfully chosen - I was removed from list while actively posting on forum - thanks to bbc-repo that knows better how to detect fake accounts and now here is asking here so it looks like his method is far from good, accusing normal account of farming. You can't reverse time, so I lost trust and credibility because bbc.reporter had second thoughts. Thank you bbc.reporter you did marvellous job! Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 21, 2017, 08:15:47 PM But can you teach me your methods of looking for farmed accounts? They are starting to invade the signature campaigns and there might be some managers that are tricked in accepting them. There should be better techniques in place to distinguish fake accounts from real. Sometimes genuine users can be accused of farming, and there is nothing they can do about it. I am sure 100% this happened already on this forum.Truth to be told I was accused by user I quoted above -> bbc.reporter Now he forgot after exchange PM what he said when accused me (I was selected and he was not) On last PM message he didn't bother to reply because he might realised that he actually made mistake. My point is - don't judge until guilty is proven. Now my account I can put in trash - because no one will accept me for campaign. I applied (first time in my life) - I was successfully chosen - I was removed from list while actively posting on forum - thanks to bbc-repo that knows better how to detect fake accounts and now here is asking here so it looks like his method is far from good, accusing normal account of farming. You can't reverse time, so I lost trust and credibility because bbc.reporter had second thoughts. Thank you bbc.reporter you did marvellous job! My technique was 100% accurate. Do you agree? theymos has me on ignore, always has, even before i named and shamed him as the master scammer. Please start a new thread to pick on bbc.reporter. I have a soft spot for him/her. He/she is just a bit out of their depth, but the intention is good. I am not accusing you of anything here, (i'm retired) but your account has many traits associated with farmed/hacked accounts. Your account summary page (click on avatar) declares you Male, from London. Did you change that as recently as today? You are not British born. I wont go any further. (i'm retired) Please don't get holier than thou here. Even i have been accused of being an alt, of Quickseller, by some account - someone "Biggs" - a hacked account. Shit happens, so obvious. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 21, 2017, 08:27:46 PM Theymos is probably a multi-millionaire from the donations alone already and you think he is pulling the strings on the petty campaigns as well? Why would he waste time on picking up the scraps from those campaign and campaigners when he is already fucking rich? A little bit common sense please.
And finding alts is not a job. Are you pining to be employed and paid a monthly salary to bust alts? Seriously ;D 9-5 awaits you mate. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 21, 2017, 08:30:39 PM Theymos is probably a multi-millionaire from the donations alone already and you think he is pulling the strings on the petty campaigns as well? Why would he waste time on picking up the scraps from those campaign and campaigners when he is already fucking rich? A little bit common sense please. And finding alts is not a job. Are you pining to be employed and paid a monthly salary to bust alts? Seriously ;D 9-5 awaits you mate. Pull your head out your own ass matey. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 21, 2017, 08:32:14 PM Theymos is probably a multi-millionaire from the donations alone already and you think he is pulling the strings on the petty campaigns as well? Why would he waste time on picking up the scraps from those campaign and campaigners when he is already fucking rich? A little bit common sense please. And finding alts is not a job. Are you pining to be employed and paid a monthly salary to bust alts? Seriously ;D 9-5 awaits you mate. Pull your head out your own ass matey. No pull your ass from your house and this forum. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: rizzlarolla on October 21, 2017, 08:44:15 PM Theymos is probably a multi-millionaire from the donations alone already and you think he is pulling the strings on the petty campaigns as well? Why would he waste time on picking up the scraps from those campaign and campaigners when he is already fucking rich? A little bit common sense please. And finding alts is not a job. Are you pining to be employed and paid a monthly salary to bust alts? Seriously ;D 9-5 awaits you mate. Pull your head out your own ass matey. No pull your ass from your house and this forum. Oh handbags at dawn? I'll explain further for the retards here. (theymos shills an all) WTF are you on about a job? I never been paid for this. I have never taken a cent of anyone here. I have got a real job thanks. I am retired from "bothering". "Retired" being a turn of phrase, donk. I tried to help you a while back when Timelord accused you of stuff. I worried Timelord may have got it wrong You were a twat then too, so i gave up. Now please fuck off, i'm done with you, theymos shill. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 21, 2017, 08:52:06 PM Theymos is probably a multi-millionaire from the donations alone already and you think he is pulling the strings on the petty campaigns as well? Why would he waste time on picking up the scraps from those campaign and campaigners when he is already fucking rich? A little bit common sense please. And finding alts is not a job. Are you pining to be employed and paid a monthly salary to bust alts? Seriously ;D 9-5 awaits you mate. Pull your head out your own ass matey. No pull your ass from your house and this forum. Oh handbags at dawn? I'll explain further for the retards here. (theymos shills an all) WTF are you on about a job? I never been paid for this. I have never taken a cent of anyone here. I have got a real job thanks. I am retired from "bothering". "Retired" being a turn of phrase, donk. I tried to help you a while back when Timelord accused you of stuff. I worried Timelord may have got it wrong You were a twat then too, so i gave up. Now please fuck off, i'm done with you, theymos shill. Do you think I give a rat's ass about the psychopaths around here whose only glimmering hope of their sad miserable life is to get home from their shitty jobs at night and put a negative rating on someone regardless of if it's true or not. And no I am not a theymos shill. However I remember when you were crying for money over on the other Bitcoin forum so my common sense is telling me you are doing this out of your own interest and greed. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 22, 2017, 05:37:57 AM Do you think I give a rat's ass about the psychopaths around here whose only glimmering hope of their sad miserable life is to get home from their shitty jobs at night and put a negative rating on someone regardless of if it's true or not. And no I am not a theymos shill. However I remember when you were crying for money over on the other Bitcoin forum so my common sense is telling me you are doing this out of your own interest and greed. Oh the irony Wendigo... freaking hypocrite ( makes shit up about me out of nowhere , spreads it around as if it's fact, refuses to give any reason.... ) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Wendigo on October 22, 2017, 10:59:39 AM Do you think I give a rat's ass about the psychopaths around here whose only glimmering hope of their sad miserable life is to get home from their shitty jobs at night and put a negative rating on someone regardless of if it's true or not. And no I am not a theymos shill. However I remember when you were crying for money over on the other Bitcoin forum so my common sense is telling me you are doing this out of your own interest and greed. Oh the irony Wendigo... freaking hypocrite ( makes shit up about me out of nowhere , spreads it around as if it's fact, refuses to give any reason.... ) Sorry but I have lost any respect for human interactions here. I guess you will have to learn to live with it like everyone else. Just stop caring ;) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: TwitchySeal on October 23, 2017, 04:07:36 AM Do you think I give a rat's ass about the psychopaths around here whose only glimmering hope of their sad miserable life is to get home from their shitty jobs at night and put a negative rating on someone regardless of if it's true or not. And no I am not a theymos shill. However I remember when you were crying for money over on the other Bitcoin forum so my common sense is telling me you are doing this out of your own interest and greed. Oh the irony Wendigo... freaking hypocrite ( makes shit up about me out of nowhere , spreads it around as if it's fact, refuses to give any reason.... ) Sorry but I have lost any respect for human interactions here. I guess you will have to learn to live with it like everyone else. Just stop caring ;) Cool. So would you recommend others should believe things you say or no? Does it (by 'it' it mean 'everything') just not matter because people are bad and they lie etc etc... How much respect do you deserve? (let's say on a scale from 0 - One Hundred,000) Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: jenni161 on October 24, 2017, 08:40:27 AM Believe it or not, I read the whole thread. Account farming is very unpleasant indeed but around page 20 someone stated that it affects bitcoins price. How on earth could that be?
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: hilariousetc on October 24, 2017, 08:52:03 AM It can't and doesn't. Don't believe everything you read. Several ludicrous conspiracy theories have been invented in this thread (and many others) because the truth just isn't that exciting or interesting.
Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: shesheboy on October 24, 2017, 09:13:46 AM Believe it or not, I read the whole thread. Account farming is very unpleasant indeed but around page 20 someone stated that it affects bitcoins price. How on earth could that be? yes account farming is verry unpleasant and a greedy idea ever invented by individuals who are not happy and contented to what they are earning right now. thats why the forum looks toxic now and i see that everyday theres always tons of newbies are born in this forum and i suspected that most of them are just for farming accounts. and no , it cant affect the price of bitcoin. price of bitcoin are depends on the demand and supply in the markets.Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: PEG-TOKEN on January 23, 2018, 04:44:42 AM Hi everyone.
I found this topic after being given a red trust for 1 single post. I feel my account has been given this red trust unfairly by a high ranking member. After looking at his send trust I noticed that he is trying to deal with the BS the forum is facing with spam and fake posts. I feel he has pulled my submision to a topic as spam when really the comment was supposed to be taken in a light hearted way. I did message him to say would he re-consider his judgment on my posted.. My reason for not posting a very long winded and drawn out answer was simple the topic was already over 150+ pages at the time. The topic was "Does the bitcoin price matter" After looking over around 25+ pages of answers and reading some rediculous reply's I decided to give a direct and to the point answer. Quote - " If you hold bitcoin then yes the price matters. If you do not hold bitcoin then for you it does not matter" While on reflection the answer may have been better but after so many reply's I thought against writing a long winded answer when simply this would do. I have offered to update my Single post that has been the target but I have had no reply from the member who left the trust and his profile says the following. Website: Do not message me if you are going to use the word 'sir' in the message. I will not read it. Skype: I have a life: I may (and probably won't) reply to most PM's. Wait a week between PM's. While I understand what this member is doing and I do commend him for it I feel he has target me most of my posts are good quality posts I am looking to become a valued forum member I did not want to leave him a negative trust but I have looked thru his posts and when he was a "new member" some of his reply's were what could be classed as "Shit posting". I hope this is not the route the forum will take persecuting every member they find that have a "lower-quality-post" this may not only harm new members but is not a very welcoming sight to new members who have done nothing wrong.. Thanks for your time and I hope we can resolve this matter asap. Title: Re: Account farming. Allowed? Post by: Lauda on January 23, 2018, 06:55:56 AM My reason for not posting a very long winded and drawn out answer was simple the topic was already over 150+ pages at the time. You shouldn't have posted there to begin with, and your issue has nothing to do with this thread either. |
