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My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  :P

Currently on my phone so it'll be a bit short.


Long story short they say out of stock then they say in stock then I say great id like to buy they say contact our Skype, one baikal Skype attempts to scam thousands of dollars from multiple users. Baikal does nothing to combat this.

Baikal says contact our skype for order, skype baikal says contact baikal@baikalminer.com to finalize.

I go through this ridiculous loop to order these miners and then, mind you this is the third time this has happened.

They say they're sold out no idea when new stock will be here.

What the fucking fuck, wasted hours of my time. It's a shame because they seem to have an awesome miner, seems like I'll never know.

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  :P

Product is amazing.

Business skills = ZERO
Horrible customer service.

I'm a old customer myself, i owe at least ONE of every baikal product, Mini, Mini Quads, A900, Cube and was looking for the Quad Cube.
E-mailed them multiple times, spoke on skype they guaranteed me i would get one and i got NADA !
I'm with you bittawm, lets join forces and look for a good company that we can do business with.

Thanks.

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
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Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

I believe they don't get shipments of 500 though, that's your assumption. I believe they get blocks of 100 and dont want it all going to 1 buyer. Also from a business point of view their stock moves at RRP just fine. Where is the advantage of selling all their stock to one person who could be a single miner at a reduced price?

Their name is out there now and I said in the group buy thread that no group buy would happen. They sell out in hours, they dont need help moving their stock.

There are other sellers on aliexpress with more reasonable prices. Is aliexpress a good place to turn to for miners?

There are other sellers on aliexpress with more reasonable prices. Is aliexpress a good place to turn to for miners?

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

Did anyone from those who paid through bank transfer got a sign / shippment proof from baikal?

Thanks.

Did anyone from those who paid through bank transfer got a sign / shippment proof from baikal?

Thanks.

Let's see been trying to get something for weeks.  Website took forever to register and it is a piece of crud.

Told to email for preorder, which I did and provided exact required details.  Get a response and told to order over Skype, sent the specs over there referencing the email and never received a response.  Other members tried to order via Skype and told to contact through email.  Spooked me out a bit (especially with all the other people experiencing odd things).  Next thing you know, Twitter says they closed presale, so I guess it was legit.  I Twittered them to ask what happened considering we were going back and forth for days.

Then last night I receive a weird Skype message in perfect English from them that stated, "Sorry don't want to be a bother but I believe it is Friday morning over there right now and wanted to catch you just in case you happen to find stock and if you did, we could do what needs to be done before the weekend."

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

Well the good news is I found a place you can buy baikal mini miners.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-explosion-models-X11-Baikal-Mini-Miner-Spec-BAIKAL-X11-150MH-s-algorithm-DASH-Minerals-Low/32668800138.html

The bad news is that it cost $108,566.85

You can relief yourself. Use referral link in my signature and get back 7-10% off Your AliExpress purchases...  ::)
Profit.  8)

Guys you should be AWARE:

After weeks of trying I got a reply from baikal about a Quad.
They asked me the details about my order.I gave them all the details and they sent me the amount to pay.
Shipping+Quad 3343 USD.Since I wanted to pay in BTC they sent me that amount also: 2.906 BTC.

Now I know very well that there are differences between the exchanges but almost 600$ difference.........something is very fishy.
I sent them a reply stating this issue and what do you think? Of course no more reply.

BE AWARE!!!!!!

Seems baikal is offloading their inventory to middlemen, noticing a bunch of preorder offers with higher prices on china eCommerce site

they are dumb as fuck, I offered to pay more so we could secure a deal and they just ignored me

Hi, I also want buy a Baikal miner Quad-CUBE "Hash Rate:1200MH/s(±10%)" in a group.

My experiences with baikal were also not the best in the past!
In january I wants buy 10 baikal mini, but I don't get response my e-Mails, so I think that they don't want my BTCs.

So I hope to get my order faster and better by a group-buy here in the bitcointalk commuinity.

@bittawm: can you please create a list of all people here, who wants buy and which amount?

I see that baikal products are available on alibaba, so maybe order it there?:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=baikal (http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=baikal)

Best regards to all!
ed

Are you talking about this? 10GH/s @ 760W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw&feature=youtu.be)

Yep!

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

Why would they care? Because one day they will not be the king of the block, competitors will rise. Just because they sell out does not mean they should not work on their customer service or business communication.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

 Lets be honest here.
 Its a nightmare not able to place an order? seriously?
  a nightmare, to the point of them needing to go out of business?
Yes, Like you ive been trying for week to get information/miners. Yes we,i,you are missing out.
 But wouldnt consider it a nightmare. jesus.
That aside.

Has anyone had any recent contact, news to report?

I have sent over 20 emails, 40+ skype messages, fumbled through their website, had a fake baikal account try to scam me, been promised units on multiple occasions, given payment addresses and pursued order confirmation and validity only to be told they're unavailable if I even receive a response. I'm not being dramatic, I consider my dealings with them a nightmare.

They actually responsed quite quickly.

Still waiting for skype reply to Friday question...
I didnt find out about the deadline untill after i sent wire transfer, but that was after deadline, so is my order still good or if not how do i get my money back?

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

I had one lost for 30 days to knc in 2013. KNC said dollars only. The bank said it would send dollars, but they had a bot that auto converted to local currency if they could make
a couple bucks. Thus the transaction was stuck. Bank said it was sent in $$$ (not knowing about their own bot) KNC said they did not get it (due to their bot stopping it for
not being usd) . Anyway was a complete cluster. Use a commercial bank that is used to doing wire xfers is my advice. Stuff like this happens with a regular bank all the time I hear.
Just for the fact wire transfer 'supposedly' is rare on non commercial regular banks it seems. (or so I was told)

Anyway, something to ask your bank if they converted it to a local currency .and because of such you are a few bucks short in the conversion :)

Anyway....something you can ask I guess ..just in case

I had one lost for 30 days to knc in 2013. KNC said dollars only. The bank said it would send dollars, but they had a bot that auto converted to local currency if they could make
a couple bucks. Thus the transaction was stuck. Bank said it was sent in $$$ (not knowing about their own bot) KNC said they did not get it (due to their bot stopping it for
not being usd) . Anyway was a complete cluster. Use a commercial bank that is used to doing wire xfers is my advice. Stuff like this happens with a regular bank all the time I hear.
Just for the fact wire transfer 'supposedly' is rare on non commercial regular banks it seems. (or so I was told)

Anyway, something to ask your bank if they converted it to a local currency .and because of such you are a few bucks short in the conversion :)

Anyway....something you can ask I guess ..just in case

I've yet to see any evidence that they have done anything to screw anyone over.  They are out of stock and stated as much.  As far as I know, they have never taken money and not delivered.  When they had stock and received money, they have shipped reliably and quickly.  And they have been more open than they have to be to when asked about inventory and upcoming products.  The only issue I have really seen is with people claiming to be in negotiations with them, and then most people simply buying directly from Baikal instead.  Then the negotiator is upset that they weren't able to get anything.  Show me an instance where Baikal promised an allotment to someone, then failed to deliver on that.  I haven't see it.

Every time I saw a so called group buy posted here, I simply went to Baikal and made the purchase directly without any issue, when the inventory was available.  If a so called group buy is organized by a third party without any contractual agreements with the vendor, then the group buy really didn't exist in the first place and the vendor has no obligation to set anything aside for them.  Especially when they have enough orders to clear inventory without it.

Seems like a lot of smoke and no actual fire.

I just got a reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon. ;D

When did you initiate the wire transfer?

I just got an email reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon. ;D

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

To the guys pretending to be in the crypto-game, but are still sending money in fiat, and complaining about how much time it takes:

Shame on you!

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

It took 4 days from my bank to them confirming. Or maybe sooner and they just got time to check it finally, also, got confirmation yesterday.

they said they recived my funds for two cubes but now they need id before the can ship wth?

Same, they ask for a copy of my passport. Like why would they need a copy of my passport when they have received my funds already? It was pretty fishy. So I just gave them my driver's license with all personal information crossed out except my name and address.

I have one theory in the reasoning behind this, maybe to prevent people from multiple orders or duplicate orders under the same person.

my cubes stoll havent shipped and I paid last week sent id and everthing sthey stopped answering via
slype only by email now all they said was iwill be notified when shipped wtf

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

i thought it was more profitable to mine via multipools that accept diffrent algos

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

i thought it was more profitable to mine via multipools that accept diffrent algos

Your best bet is to hold your dash u mined, when dash evolution comes out later this year and ibelink s difficulty increase hopefully the price of dash will climb, and youd profit from that , reducing your ROI, i assume u paid 1100$ for each of your cubes?

No, I paid around $870 I think it worked out. I bought from Baikal direct and they charged around the $75 for shipping.

Cost me at the time 28.5 dash for both but at the time dash had dropped to under $70, cant remember the exact exchange but Baikal charged me .74BTC each nad I think BTC was around $1200 at that time in early\mid April

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

I've yet to see any evidence that they have done anything to screw anyone over.  They are out of stock and stated as much.  As far as I know, they have never taken money and not delivered.  When they had stock and received money, they have shipped reliably and quickly.  And they have been more open than they have to be to when asked about inventory and upcoming products.  The only issue I have really seen is with people claiming to be in negotiations with them, and then most people simply buying directly from Baikal instead.  Then the negotiator is upset that they weren't able to get anything.  Show me an instance where Baikal promised an allotment to someone, then failed to deliver on that.  I haven't see it.

Every time I saw a so called group buy posted here, I simply went to Baikal and made the purchase directly without any issue, when the inventory was available.  If a so called group buy is organized by a third party without any contractual agreements with the vendor, then the group buy really didn't exist in the first place and the vendor has no obligation to set anything aside for them.  Especially when they have enough orders to clear inventory without it.

Seems like a lot of smoke and no actual fire.

Now if we could reverse engineer these fpga's would be nice...It's getting ones hands on the chips...anyone up to taking one of their heatsinks off and uploading a picture of the chips?

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks :D

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

If. There's people sitting at their computers 24/7 waiting to buy these and they typically sell out in about five minutes in my experience. Otherwise you can purchase insanely gouged miners from forum members.

I wasn't paying too close attention, but apparently with this last batch they were in stock until recently, for a couple of weeks. I don't know why they didn't sell out instantly because you can make so much money with them, but I will be watching closely for the next batch as I may soon have the funds to purchase a couple of the quad cubes.

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

No that's combined for 2 cubes which i'm assuming you also have 2 based on your previous comments

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

Baikal mini not profitable again,after investor used high hashrate

Not true....I still have a mini making 4usd every single day...been hashing away for almost a year now.

Nine chips.

do you know which chips they are? ...

im curious as to what fpga / asic chips they use ...

any one pulled a miner apart to see? ...

only reason im asking is because of the cooling system - and the heat watt dissipation ... knowing the make and model of the chips can give us all the specs we need ... working on a better cooling system - and require all this info we cant seem to find anywhere ... not even in the reviews ...

#crysx

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

I setup a PI with VPN access to my netowrk. Then I can login there and do anything I want locally on my network.

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress :)

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

I'm going with you, if I don't get mine from next batch ;D
ONLY ONE, I NEED ONLY ONE, not TEN, but ONE.
Give us chance to buy, don't forget about those who hasn't got spare thousands in their bank accounts.

If they are asics, then you won't find a make and model.  they are custom made.  But if they are by chance FPGA then there will be something out there.  

We don't know anything about them and no one has dissected one yet.

My first theory is that they are fpga.   My second theory is that they are asics that some hardware student designed in grad school in china and was able to get them on a tape out of a research wafer.   When i was in grad school for hardware/circuit design, we were allowed to piggy back on unused wafer space for IBM and TSMC.  It was something that was free for universities. for research only.

I believe the only way they could come back after release and add additional algos is if they are FPGAs.  I'm no EE, but that's the only thing that makes sense.  I was able to take my original X11 only mini and upgrade it to the additional algos they all now ship with.  FPGA.

Algorithm http://www.baikalminer.com/support04.php

Have you tried this algorithm on different FPGA card

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress :)

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

Well for what it's worth, there is one on ebay selling for 999 bucks....

Is baikal's facebook profile baikal lee gone or I am unable to see it anymore?

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

Regards the new stock, please check our website for your information, we will make our announcement there.

Best regards,
Baikal

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

Hi,

We will put you in the email list if your order quantity is more than 5 units of cube quad.

Best regards,
Baikal

That is exactly what they said. I asked them if they would be emailing me when they *are* in stock, they said this:

That is exactly what they said. I asked them if they would be emailing me when they *are* in stock, they said this:

baikal news.... email recived today.......

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

Regards the new stock, please check our website for your information, we will make our announcement there.

And we only accept the US dollar now.

???????????????

Is possibile???????

Only US Dollars????


bye!

some miners has been blocked at the customs because of missing CE mark or some trouble like these
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1892390.msg19137624#msg19137624

Has anyone ever had problems like that to receive any miner (Bitmain, Baikal, etc...) from China to United States?

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available  ;)

That's the standard.

Hi,

Thank you for your email, the price without shipping cost for one quad-cube is USD3196/unit.

Best regards,
Baikal

What is your preferred method of payment?

Hi,

We accept the US dollar only.

Best regards,
Baikal

Via credit card? Do you accept master card?

Hi,

Via bank transfer.

Best regards,
Baikal

This seems pretty fishy. Heres a back and forth i had with baikal over email

What recourse does a bank transfer offer for recuperating funds if they do not follow through?

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

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you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

When was the last time there were any available?

It varies usao.And this was the case with the old type miners.
With this new type - the cube - it might be a totally new kind of sci-fi in baikal's way of organising the production / sales.

WHAT only USD wire transfer  >:( >:( >:( >:(  !!! why do they not use a system like bitpay in their business ? ?

Ceers W_M

Not anymore, unless their email account has been hacked.

Their skype is off also i cant find it on facebook anymore. Something happen?

#1 how to explain Facebook disappearing, website cloning, and weird sky shit... greed or finance issues...

why.. they probably were a few to join to dev the Baikal

they got the first batch of cash in ... they argued.. one left the gang, hijacked domain name..

then he tried to leverage others to get his share, didnt.. so he redirected email and cloned a backup version of website, hence the disparities of the site when it came up..

the others complained at facebook and they only got the account closed as a result..

result is .. who to trust in this ? it seems as they are split up in 2 gangs, one with public facing site, and one with skype access.. none have stock,

the guy that left with website and emails is surely to scam all of you to get is capital back from the baikal ventures, and the skype crew probably will drop this and rename the baikal and come back on another name.

not only is comms really really shitty but the whole product is flaky at best, i got a 150 and rma'd on the spot, looking at the code base i understand why.

so i guess we need to move along, or raize 500,000k to 1 mill and build our own miners..

I guess I am a little confused.  The web site seems to be working.  FB page is still there.  The info still appears to be correct on the web page.  So I am not sure why the uncertainty about Baikal.  The problems that have popped up have been due to scammers that setup "similar" sites, email addresses, and skype handles.  The same is true for Bitmain there are scammers all over the place.  So just double/triple check your URL, email, or skype handle you are trying to communicate with.  The fact that we don't get responses from Baikal other than to be redirected to the FB page is just a lack of communication on Baikal's part.  

If you have an outstanding order with Baikal that they have not shipped then keep pinging them until they respond.  So far they appear to resolve any unfinished business if you can finally reach a person there.  

The only real question I have at the moment is in regards to Baikal's plans to release more miners.  And do they have any plans to counter the iBelink miner that is rumored to be coming.  Those are the things I would like to know.  Baikal may be slow to respond and not able to handle the demand for their miners, but I have yet to see them do anything to scam this community.  

I have Baikal Miner @baikalmining on FB.  There is a second one listed, but it is clear it is a scam they are selling product and redirecting you to another site that has been reported here as a scam site.  So if you see product listed for sale on the FB page you are on the WRONG FB page.

I have Baikal Miner @baikalmining on FB.  There is a second one listed, but it is clear it is a scam they are selling product and redirecting you to another site that has been reported here as a scam site.  So if you see product listed for sale on the FB page you are on the WRONG FB page.

From the look of it Baikal is opening for the order soon.
My reason is out of nowhere they replied over skype with following massage.

Hi,  please be more patience, we will update it toour website once miner is ready. :)

I would really like to get into this market; but until there is another manufacturer, I do not believe that there is a feasible way to expand this arena.

i'm registered on baikalminers since months...
but never, i was able to buy a miners, no MINI, no CUBE no QUAD.
they are very approssimative...
hope they will fix it soon

i think baikal might have shut up shop for now
potentially so they can work on the next generation of X11 miners


unless anyone has any secret news or leaked info of a batch 3.0 cube release?

(i had two cubes in my cart on batch 1.0, couldnt get BTC in time, then had delayed notification of batch 1.5 release so didnt get any then, and finally got some ordered at batch 2.0 release)

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor  :o

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

Aug-Sept delivery date, though. 

While that's true, I don't think it's a problem given how stable LTC has been. 

You're likely not wrong.  I'm going to hold off on buying anything from BITMAIN until the crazy UASF shakes out.  It's the wild west, for sure.

Probably not a bad idea, I just don't see the possibility of bitcoin tanking from it to the point that it wouldn't be profitable to mine - or profitable to mine and hold on to the coins believing it will rebound. If you are mining at the moment however, what hardware do you own if not Bitmain?

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait !  ;D

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait !  ;D

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait !  ;D

Guys I just got some inside very trusted info regarding the Baikal situation.

It seems that they have no more chips for their miners at the moment and it is unknown if / when they can get some more.

Bad news, if they have no more chip we have to wait a long time before the next batch will be released :'( .

W_M

Yeah, I thought so too.But maybe they'll bring something with an even higher MH rate.

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

even if it runs only X11, the same old adage applies. Never put all your eggs into 1 basket.

The much MUCH bigger problem with all miners isnt that they can mine only 1 thing. The major issue is you can't find them anywhere to buy. That should be your primary concern. (or relief if you already own a farm)

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

Where did you hear Baikal will have anything to sell?  At this point in time I don't think any of us have heard anything about more miners coming available.  But it should would be a welcomed development. 

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

pathetic company

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / QUAD / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

pinidea has new miner? what model?

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

Dash hashrate already double ... :o :o

Currently 13.30 Th/s

July 5th was 6.20 Th/s

And the baikals and ibelinks are not even out. Get ready people, Thank God i already got my ROI on all of my 8 baikals.

I hope they offer the 300mh cubes too. I'd rather have 10 cubes at 3,000 mh and pay more than all my eggs in 1 basket with ONE unit, in case something goes bad.

I mean, what do they have a 90 day warranty. Just saying a 300mh cube blows you still have 90% of your equip yet to mine with.

Just a thought

lucky for you but not so lucky for idiots who bought them recently. once ibelink starts shipping those poor souls be spreading butt cheeks for sure. it's payback time.

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

Now when the Antminer D3 comes out in September, Baikal really has to come down with prices  ::)

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  ;)

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  ;)

Nope 0 star product with 0 star service.

I'd rather 1000x to deal with Bitmain in any situation... Deal with Baikal can be a real nightmare

i always think that baikal are too greedy when sell their miner, but now there are more competition on market, and as always more competition more good for consumer

and consumer deserve more fair price, better service and better product  8)

Let's see... Baikal New Giant 2GH/s ($7000) vs. Bitmain D3 15GH/s ($2699) ::)

No wonder why the new giants never advertised their price online, their advertised prices shouldn't be 7k now, and ibelinks arent selling out.

Last I heard the catch is ..you have to order 100 units. (thou that may have been d/c).

Group buy?

I don't see the price listed on Baikal's site for the Giant+.  Maybe they are embarrassed to post it now, as they should be.  2gh for 7k! LOL  There needs to be a dramatic, massive price reduction if they want to sell Giant+ miners.

hi guys

Indeed Baikal is a scam when i order my 2nd miner on 27 aug true skype baikalminer as per instruction on their website.the whole chat history from me  is being deleted by them and they send me an email saying that the skype baikalminer is not theirs. and my order is invalid.how can they say that?

 1 am really confuse and clearly this company is not professional and are trying to scam miners that buy direct from them

i wrote an email to support but not being entertain.

if you guys have same similar issue please comment and reply

hi guys

Indeed Baikal is a scam when i order my 2nd miner on 27 aug true skype baikalminer as per instruction on their website.the whole chat history from me  is being deleted by them and they send me an email saying that the skype baikalminer is not theirs. and my order is invalid.how can they say that?

 1 am really confuse and clearly this company is not professional and are trying to scam miners that buy direct from them

i wrote an email to support but not being entertain.

if you guys have same similar issue please comment and reply

I got this message from baikal "I am sorry to inform you there is no many miner left, we are checking stock now. please be more patience'.
miner sold out?

what do you suggest buy x11 miners or scrypt miners for the next year and a stable profit i have free electricity

When you can get your hands one some D3 miners, you can use these for X11. There's no other machine on the market that has the same price to hashrate ratio than the Antminer D3.
Unfortunately, it can only mine X11 and therefore, you're pretty limited.
On the other handside, you could buy a Baikalminer which support multiple algorithms. It supports X11, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit, so you have a lot more choices where you can switch to in case the difficulty for one algorithm rises exponentially.
You can mine Quark and Qubit and receive about 5$ a day, or you can mine OnionCoin on X13. Someone reported that they mined 4 Onions in 24h and the coin was worth about 5$ some days ago.

I would only buy Antminer L3+ for mining scrypt, but only if you can get your hands on some cheap ones. I see many offers over 2000$ which are alittle unrealistic I think. Litecoin may rise a lot in the future, but a mining revenue of about 700$ per month is not enough to spend more than 2000$ I think.
Maybe it's worth waiting for the Antminer L4, but currently we can only dream about this one, it has not been released yet.

To answer your question in some short words: As long as your electricity is free, mine with everything you can get your hands on! Everything except old Pc's with one GPU ;D

Can anyone who has an working baikal cube 300mhs, send me a foto of the mainbord?

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/