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Innosilicon's world class R&D team just released the latest global leading miner, the D9 DecredMaster, which is surely to lead the future market with unbeatable performance and price.

Utilizing our proprietary D9 DecredMaster ASIC, the Innosilicon D9 DecredMaster delivers stable hashing with ultra-low power consumption. And the operation is stable and ultra-quiet. Ships directly from our factory in China using DHL or Fedex Worldwide service for fast delivery.

http://www.innosilicon.com/statics/images/d9.jpg

Our D9 DecredMaster details are as follows:

Hash Rate: 2.1TH/s. A variation of +/-8% is expected.
Power Consumption: 900W (normal mode, at the wall, with 93% efficiency PSU, 25℃ temperature)
Chip Type: D9 DecredMaster ASIC
Dimensions: Single Tube, 310 mm(L)*130mm(W)*155mm(H)
Weight: 3.6KG
Operating Temperature: 0-85℃
Network Connection: Ethernet

Besides, the D9 DecredMaster owns huge competitive advantage, such as easy setup, compact time-tested design, good compactness and simple interface. As a result, the D9 DecredMaster is a cost effective miner that delivers better ROI than all other leading mining hardware on the market today.

Innosilicon D9 DecredMaster is fully tested and open for order now! Delivery time starts from 27th April, 2018 with superior 180 days' warranty. First order, first served! Don't miss it!

Buy now from http://www.innosilicon.com/html/d9-miner/index.html



In April 2018 Innosilicon launches our latest S11 SiaMaster miner. The biggest advantages of Innosilicon S11 SiaMaster miner are the highest hashrate and the lowest power consumption.

Innosilicon is a professional ASIC R&D manufacturer with products covering multiple fields in the world today. The biggest advantages of Innosilicon S11 SiaMaster are the highest hashrate and the lowest power consumption. Our hashrate is 4.7 times than the market miners. Our power consumption is 1380W which contributes to the energy efficiency ratio.

http://www.innosilicon.com/statics/images/s11.jpg

All these will bring new mining experience to the majority of our miners.. Through our meticulous research and development, we have made the operation of our miners extremely stable, which can significantly reduce the operating cost and bring higher ROI!

The advantages of our S11 SiaMaster miners are as follows:

Hash Rate: 3.83TH/s. A variation of +/-8% is expected.
Power Consumption: 1380W (normal mode, at the wall, with 93% efficiency PSU, 25℃ temperature)
Chip Type: S11 SiaMaster ASIC
Dimensions: Single Tube, 290 mm(L)*130mm(W)*155mm(H)
Weight: 3.7KG
Operating Temperature: 0-85℃
Network Connection: Ethernet

Besides, we always ship on time, sometimes even ahead of time. We've built a solid reputation around this commitment, making us the most trusted brand in the industry.

Innosilicon S11 SiaMaster is fully tested and open for order now! Delivery time starts from 27th April, 2018 with superior 180 days’ warranty. First order, first served!

Buy now from http://www.innosilicon.com/html/s11-miner/index.html

Ehm.. Okey? I think most of your customers dont agree on that one(A4/A5).

Do you own Halong Mining? Since you deliver the exact same products.

Innosilicon D9 DecredMaster  =  Halong Mining DragonMint B29 miner
https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b29-blake256-miner/ (https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b29-blake256-miner/)

Innosilicon S11 SiaMaster  =  Halong Mining DragonMint B52 miner
https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner/ (https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner/)


Two different brands, but the design is exactly same.

Are you planning to release an Innosilicon bitcoin miner as well?

I am not buying any ASIC from China. Thank you and goodbye.

Doesn't look like the BTC/LTC prices are updated properly on orders. Currently they're about 10-15% higher than USD pricing.

Better then obelisk tech.  USA company with promises of delivering by end of June.  I pre ordered and wish I didn't now that the China beat obelisk by launching much sooner.

I saw that too. I think they are setting it firm, at the time of posting. One of the things stopping me from pulling the trigger. Should I wait until BTC/LTC prices drop and then purchase, or will they then decide to magically adjust the price?

Doesn't make any sense for it not to reflect market value. I hope they'll fix it, I was going to pull the trigger but I'm not paying a substantial 10-15% surcharge to use BTC/LTC.

I've been happy with the Halong units, which are identical to these.

This is not a new thing,

Innosilicon usually has the crypto/fiat money ratio set much in their favour,
and so you'll end up paying a surcharge when using cryptos for the payment.

Well My B52 is a beast.  At this moment in time it is the best unit to own.  it is earning more then 50 usd a day.

All miners know  this may not be true in a weeks time but for now it is really doing well.


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3

Look at Sia to see how it is doing.

It smashes the bitmain A3  buries it.

I have never seen a current bitmain product  be crushed the way this miner  crushes the A3

This is pretty awful.

For instance, the D9 is listed for 6800 USD, or 0.921515 BTC.

The current market price of BTC is 8200 USD. You effectively pay $7557 (8200*0.921515), or a $757 (almost 15%) premium for paying in Bitcoin.

This premium is really unfortunate for a company that is directly in the Crypto field, and I hope Innosilicon changes this approach. I'm not a customer of this batch as a result of this approach.

What is the price for B52 halongmining?

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbNFrVBVwAAArhb.jpg:large

Sold out  but it was higher then this.

I was watching the price, and it went under .89 BTC as BTC went up, and now it spiked back up to nearly .96, even though the price of Bitcoin has risen. That's a 20% BTC surcharge now. (0.959101*8515 -- 8166.75 vs 6800)

Crazy!

Its not working... They input BTC price manually. http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/api/getapi_d9.php?t=20180418

Yep. I took this picture of before and after:

https://i.imgur.com/xNoI0gY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rkhot2a.jpg

No idea why they're penalizing crypto payments so much.

Regarding delivery times You are a disgrace to the industry ..

Greedy liars.
and I will never buy from you again, though My non-time shipped A5 has already earned 1.5 Dash
and "free" gift ( A4 +) has earned 7.2 LTC. Let's take a long way to 10600 USD that I paid for them.

I very much hope that you will be in hell and in bankruptcy.

I'm still waiting to hear from them about a possible compensation for the highpriced A5.

Whats with this Blake256 algo? How come its producing the top numbers and its only got 1 coin on it, decred. Why is decred so much more profitable to mine than any other coin in the market? Is this a risky buy like the X3?
Its lucrative at this point. And how will everyone jumping on this affect the profitability/difficulty? I really want to buy a few but unsure how risky it is. Need to get more educated. Any help is highly appreciated!

Always be careful with buying ASICs. Yes, the earnings are big for the first buyers and receivers but that can change quickly when a lot of people also want a piece of the pie. Difficulty rises fast and gains diminish.

It's always highly speculative in the alt markets. The X series for instance got discontinued by Halong (although inno sells it now too), and the Bitmain ones were late to market in comparison. You never know if there's going to be an algorithm change either, but that's something to continue watching.

I'm happy with my Halong Decreds, but this Inno offering is disappointing with the sad surcharge on BTC purchases.

Then where will you buy from? Lol no choice China rules in Asics

Honestly, I was ready to purchase two of these but:

• They have made buying with BTC punitive. Why should I pay almost $2,000 more to give you a coin on the rise? That's a horrible deal for the customer.
• You can't submit an order through the website - It says Invalid Form Submission. There's no live customer support or even a real email to connect to anyone. Why would I wire $16,000 USD when I can't even talk to an actual person?
• They state that it's first come, first serve - which is fine. They state that it'll ship by April 27th - but what they don't tell you is that you might be customer 8076 in the queue that's paid up (which could be batch 3-4-5) and you might "actually" receive your unit 3-4 months down the road when there's no value.

I've sent emails to Innosilicon asking for clarification on these issues and no one has responded. They would have more traction if they listened / responded to these concerns - because I'm probably not the only one who has them.

Which miner did you order from them? How long did it take from when they promised shipping? I was ready to pull the plug on this , but now after reading few comments about delays i am skeptical . 7k is big amount for me.

Same here. Not going to send thousands of dollars to the void if they can't even reply to an email.

I ordered one of each, even tho paying with btc I had to pay extra because their usd/btc rate wasn't set right, it was the most convenient way for me to pay. I had ordered 1x A4+ from them before as my only previous experience with buying from Innosilicon.

Wish me luck!

Consider joining Luxor Mining Pool! PPS and PPLNS pools that are community focused and have awesome miner support! :)

I’ve tried ordering the D9 Miner (with one 220V PSU, also without) multiple times via Order Now with no success ever since these became available.  I’ve choose Bank Transfer as the payment method which is an selectable/default  option, however, I receive an Invalid Form Submit each time. I’ve reviewed the ordering and payment process, everything is correct. I have not received any emails with order confirmation or payment instructions.

The support email doesn’t list the D9 DecredMaster as an selectable topic but I reported the issue the D9 in the title, awaiting a reply. .

Could you please explain Delivery: 27th- 30th? “Delivery” meaning product arrives to destination or Is that the “Ship Date”? Is the delivery 4/27-4/30 for all miners available in the batch, not later? This is an important factor for ROI.

Please let me know, I have bank transfer funds available for immediate purchase. I’d like to become a customer and l hope you value the same. Thank you.

Hello Thank you for your feedback. The exchange rate maybe a little higher because of the unstable price of BTC.

Since we are unable to track the highly variable BTC valuation, we have no choice but to provide a BTC valuation that is on the lower end of this range. We recognize that this does not provide a good deal using this currency when the BTC valuation moves higher, however we also accept USD, which is a much more stable currency for us. Our recommendation is that you make your purchases in USD if you can't time your purchases to a low BTC valuation.

Thank you.

Hello Thank you for your feedback. Could you please tell me what I can do for you?

Hello Thank you for your feedback.

1. The exchange rate maybe a little higher because of the unstable price of BTC.
Since we are unable to track the highly variable BTC valuation, we have no choice but to provide a BTC valuation that is on the lower end of this range. We recognize that this does not provide a good deal using this currency when the BTC valuation moves higher, however we also accept USD, which is a much more stable currency for us. Our recommendation is that you make your purchases in USD if you can't time your purchases to a low BTC valuation.

2. Can you order now? We check the website and the web is back to normal now. Sorry for your inconvenient.

3. Shipment will be arranged between 27th to 30th April if your payment could be confirmed before that.

Thank you.

Hello Thank you for your feedback.

1. About the message board, we will update it this week. Sorry for inconvenient.

2. Shipment will be arranged between 27th to 30th April from China if your payment can be confirmed before that.

Thank you.

Thanks for your valuable comments; we will continuously improve our service in the future. Looking forward to bring you the excellent customer exprience in the future!

I  did a screen shot price for 1 miner  S11 and shipping to usa

coinbase price right now is 8922   so .446 x 8922 =  3979 usd  you are off by more then 200 usd in your favor.

I can guarantee it is always off in your favor as I check it 1 time every hour for days now and it is always 100 to 350 usd in your favor.


As it should be about 3500 + 120 to ship or 3620 usd .  It has never been this price. On 3 different exchanges  all the times I checked.

I don't mind the extra 100 to 350 overcharge I mind you hide it.

You have done it for years.

Why not simply say BTC rates and LTC rates are Slightly  higher due to exchange costs.
The no one would complain.
I have purchased 300,000 in gear since 2012 I have never purchased a single item from you  because you do this.
I own a dragon mint b52 which is the same as your s11 it is a fine miner I would buy the s11 from you if you were transparent  about exchange rates you are not.
To all  the S11 is good gear well at least my B52 is good.

https://i.imgur.com/VPfG0xD.png

I ordered one of the D9's and when I get it I'm going to compare it to my Halong B29. I wondering if the hashboards are identical because I have a sneaky suspicion that they will be  ::)

It would be nice to have a look at side by side comparison,
and see if the Halong and Innosilicon altcoin miners are exactly the same design.

Just ordered four of the S11 today with power supplies - I'm excited!  I had no issues with the website order, and just emailed the bank transfer receipt.

I had good success with my previous Dominator A4 units while I had them, looking forward to having new mining hardware  :)

Thank You Innosilicon

Now that is something you don't hear every day.  :D

;D

Hello Thanks a lot for your feedback.

The exchange rate maybe a little higher because of the unstable price of BTC.
Since we are unable to track the highly variable BTC valuation, we have no choice but to provide a BTC valuation that is on the lower end of this range. We recognize that this does not provide a good deal using this currency when the BTC valuation moves higher, however we also accept USD, which is a much more stable currency for us. Our recommendation is that you make your purchases in USD if you can't time your purchases to a low BTC valuation.

Thank you.

Thanks for your comments; we will continuously improve our service in the future. Looking forward to bring you the excellent customer experience in the future!

holy crap did you just copy and paste that response from the previous page? jesus you guys really keep shooting yourselves in the foot

It's basically the same question. So...we'll change the expression next time. :)

No it is not.  What I said was post on the sales page.



Just put it on the website

we don't adjust btc and ltc every hour so we use a lower number. Pay cash if you want a true cash price.

Saying it on this thread means nothing .

Write it on your website .  To a westerner like myself  you would be showing me respect and honesty.
In western culture your practice with ltc and btc prices is considered theft and disrespectful.
So I suggested you explain the problem on your website

  I did this because I like the B52/S11 gear. 
BTW your B52 or S11 sia miner is a great piece of gear.
I reviewed it very favorably 


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3338797.msg35406403#msg35406403

I would buy another but I don't  due to your deception with btc and ltc prices. I feel disrespected by your website.

is this used samsung 10nm chips?

Nice nice!!! I'm definitely interested in the comparison. Please keep us posted. Waiting on my D9 to get here as well.

I don't mind a partnership, but curious to know who's manufacturing the ASICs and who's labeling..

Inno, want to give us a hint? Anything you can share about the chips being Samsung - yay or nay?

I get what all the fuss is about for the BTC, LTC exchange rate being off or in favor of Innosilicon buy a few hundred bucks. That does feel as if we're being penalized for paying in crypto, a little ironic for a crypto ASIC manufacturer. We do have the option to pay USD via Bank Transfer to get the exact value listed which is what I did. I suppose some will have to sell some coins and transfer into fiat but that is an option. Hopefully, Innosilicon can implement a current value tracker of BTC and LTC in the near future. 

I'm interested in what the "Now Offering Discount" is that is handled by the Marketing/Sales Team for the D9? Is this a coupon? Earlier Ship Date? A bonus MINER!?! wishful thinking.  ;D

I've had all my emails answered within their business hours in China, pretty happy with the Support so far. Thanks Innosilicon! Looking forward to my D9, please don't let us down with the ship date!!

As you've seen, many have noticed the obvious Specs inline with Halong's B52 and B29 and your S11 and D9. Can you shed some light on the topic? Are you partners with Halong, if so who's manufacturing? Are these miners using Samsung 10nm chips?

Can we expect any of these questions to be answered, please!?

If not, I revert back to my original question, what's the "Now Offering Discount" mean?

China ASICS = Liars

I have experienced this, the quality of products are bad with only 90 to 180 days garanty (mine crashed after 8 months and it looked like it was used when i received it, i never ROI'd it).

They only want to steal your money they are not like americans or europeans that want to make the best quality product to gain long term users. Chineses Asic producer only want fast money. So they produce the product, they use it when difficulty is still down, and then they sell their used ASICS promising the best profits to customers but the best profits are for them because this material, when received, is only profitable for 2 or 3 months and you cannot ROI it ... thank you chinese ASIC companies.

You are warned then do like you want now. I hope an occidental ASIC producer will emerge soon to destroy that f...ing Chinese ASIC companies.

Sorry for your luck. Care to elaborate on your experience i.e. which company or companies, which miner, how soon did you order after initial availability, what caused it to crash - were you within operating temps? I think alot of people presume the miners are pre-used for a duration, not sure how long or if this is even true, likely though. I'm sure there's many who reached ROI if they were the lucky/early ones who received their machines before most others. Check out BlockOps on youtube, dude was making a killing with all his S9's late last year when the BTC was 18k.

The s11 or b52 is making me solid money


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3


0.0072  btc after auto conversion is 66 usd a day.


My review of the B52

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3338797.0

Of course the op does not admit  the b52 is the s11

 why?  I don't know

I would want to have another.  I have earned about 0.1 btc with it in about  13 days

Many thanks for your good suggestion. We have accepted your proposal after applying with our manager.

http://www.innosilicon.com/statics/images/20180425103142.png

Thank you a lot~

Thank you for your feedback~

You will know when you get D9. Let's wait and see. ;)

Hello,

D9 used to sell for 10800 USD. And now you can get one D9 with 6800 USD. This is big discount. ;D

Did you just admit that the D9 and Halong Mining's B29 are the same thing?

I would suggest for everybody to stay as far away from them as possible. Ordered 3 A5s for 30K, delivery was due to september, than moved to october, than arrived in middle november. ROI is of course of the plate bigtime, many units caught fire, many were shipped bricked without a sd card slot, they even put a mandatory hw update self service type, you just need to have mad soldering skills to do that.
Check the thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2033006.740

For those of us who have already paid... We would like to know when they will actually ship.

Can you provide an update on the status of these units shipping? If you've already paid will the "actually" be sent out on April 27th?

I purchased 2 d9 units and provided 4 screen shots of transfer proof and confirmation and no one at Innosilicon has been able to confirm my payment ($15, 000+ usd) or when they are scheduled to ship.

This is very concerning based on some other topics with customer reviews of your other products being delayed, used, catching fire, etc.

They are the same thing.

Funny.

I agree 6800 and 10800 is a considerable difference in price. However, the D9 is a NEW miner listed for Innosilicon, right? So $6800 is an introduction price NOT a discount price.

Please be transparent about this because it's a little misleading. Is there an actual discount being offered for "Now Offering Discount" or is that Discount already considered in the price of the miner? If it's the later, it's pointless to include that verbiage other than a marketing tactic which causes some confusion. The price listed is the price it's being sold, there's no discount in that.

The Halong B29 miner was listed at $10500 which at the time profitability was near 10k/month. The difference in the introductory price of $6800 looks more aligned to profitability adjustments in the current market.

Everyone and their mother knows this. Just haven't hear either company admit it publicly.

I got an email from Innosilicon confirming they got my payment for the D9 and will be shipping out this Friday-Monday.

I havent owned an inno unit yet but i personally know some who have and have dealt with the same type mess.  I dont know if its luck of the draw but good luck to anyone buying these.  Will be waiting for some reviews on this one as the A5s went through a mess at first

Nice, when did you place your order and how did you pay? I'm waiting on my bank wire to process on their side.

Any idea on the ROI? Via Asicminervalue it's around 35-40days. Will that be the same after everyone gets his/her D9 or will the ROI never be reached?

I placed my order on the 22nd with litecoin and they sent me an email today the 25th confirming my order. They also said they will be shipping out on the 27th and sending me tracking as soon as they get it from the factory that day.

I placed my order on April 23rd using BTC.

Sent them 4 confirmations including TX - BTC Transactions with their Wallet Address and mine, amount, time stamp, etc. within 1 hour of making the payment. Confirmed the order with them 4 times, even copied the information off of their OWN PO.

It's 3 days later and they're telling me that they can't confirm payment and have not provided me with any updates on shipping / tracking or confirmation.

The payment was recorded and confirmed on the network 299 times since the 23rd. Innosilicon is telling me nothing. They do answer emails, until I ask them a direct question, like: "Can you please provide me a shipping date?" then they simply stop responding.

I'm getting pretty concerned. I guess they have a history of this after reading some reviews.

@Innosilicon What do I need to do to ensure that my miner's are sent out on April 27th? I have provided everything you've asked and more.

Hello Thanks for your feedback.

Would you please send me your order ID by private letter to me? I will ask my colleague to check and reply to you asap.

Thank you~

Your forum settings will not allow me to send you a private message.

I think inno is halong as well but I dont think they will admit it considering the problems that occur with the A5.  inno should do the correct thing and compensate buyers of the A5 instead of just provide lip service.


And calling the SIA coin miner an S11, this is on purpose isnt it? Inno does not even have an S-range item. This is to hope to confuse some buyers into thinking it is an antminer S11. This might also work out in future when a real S11 comes out. This is just cheap and unethical....

I suppose it will work. Some people will make mistakes, especially in secondary marketplaces....

is this actually true? Can this be proven? Halong = Inno?

Inno promised to get back to me about a possible compensation,
but I have not heard anything yet.

Update - Reached out to Innosilicon. They still say they can't confirm payment.

Payment submitted on the morning of the 23rd. They told me it would take 2-3 days to confirm payment. I have supplied 4 confirmations of confirmed payment to their wallet with 322 network confirmations that they are holding the BTC. Asked for an update on shipping date - they have not answered as they say they can't confirm the payment that blockcypher shows in their account. It's about $15,000.

As of today their website says "Next Batch Coming Soon!"

As of right now, they have $15,000 of my USD (1.7~BTC) for a week with no updates and according to their website - no product to ship.

Innosilicon representative on the board asked me to PM them - but their permission to be PM'd was turned off. They have not contacted me directly.

Will provide updates as I get them.

Hope it all works out for you man, this is a tough situation. I hope Innosilicon understands that people are watching how they treat their customers in this batch quite closely. If they ever want to make it in this business, they'd best be aware of that.

Hi! Since you're taking suggestions, I would recommend a payment system similar to how Halong has theirs. They accept Wires, BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH, XMR, DCR, USDT, and more, many of which reflects the actual miners they sell. The prices they have don't have a surcharge either. It's been the smoothest and widest optioned payment system I've ever utilized.

Your pricing just recently was 1.2 BTC for 1 unit, that is nearly a 60% surcharge with BTC! Over 11000 USD for a miner that retails at 6800?
https://i.imgur.com/fsrF4xP.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/fsrF4xP.jpg)

While we all know that cryptos are highly speculative, as one of the leaders in the industry, I'd encourage you to do likewise and equalize your pricing to the current market trends. Your last movement of your inbound account was on 4/10, so you're speculating anyways - but you shouldn't do it at the expense of surcharging crypto customers as much as you are. This drives customers away.

Good luck otherwise! I'm eager to see the next generation units.

Thank you. I'm a pretty fair and reasonable guy.

I'm going to continue posting updates (unbiased ones) that show their level of accountability. If they confirm payment and send me a tracking number tomorrow - I'll update this thread and give them a positive review for following through with their word. I'll also post a review of the miner and entire experience.

However - they should be held to their own expectations.

• "BTC or LTC payment confirmed in 2-3 days"
• "We will ship on April 27th-30th"

They also charged a 15-20% fee for using LTC or BTC due to "market fluctuations". If you've noticed the BTC cost have jumped from about 0.82 to 1.02 at times ($7,300 USD to $9,180 USD for the same unit; a delta of $1,800 depending on the time of day you make your purchase). They added a disclaimer stating that they prefer you to pay the $6,800 in USD via bank wire for stability.

Order ID: D9INNO2018042417

This is one of the confirmations that shows the $15,000+ purchase sitting in Innosilicon's account.
https://ibb.co/ghTEDc

As of 4/26 at 4:25pm EST - I have no payment confirmation or shipping date / tracking number.

Once I'm provided a tracking number - I'll be happy to provide a positive review of the D9 Decred Master upon receipt. Until then - I would STRONGLY caution you from purchasing.

Innosilicon can easily fix this situation by providing this information and shipping these two units.

I just placed a larger order for 10 x d9 units plus 220 power supplies and as such would like to post my experience to all. Thus far I look forward to receiving these units on time and without issue. I can confirm I made wire payment and have replied back to my order ID email which they deploy upon placing your order. I also attached my banking wire confirmation. The amount had been deducted from my account already.

Will report back as I receive a followup from the order team confirming my payment. As of now no communication yet.

Cheers.

 D9INNO2018042558

I sent wire for one PSU and one miner. Can you please confirm? I do not want to lose my spot in line! Money was deducted from my account. Please advise ASAP.

Order ID： D9INNO2018042558
Time:：2018-04-25
Amount： 7085 USD
Payment：Bank Transfer

Order Details

Product Name
   

D9 Miner(with 220V PSU)

Order Quantity
   

1 units

Price of machine
   

6880/unit

Shipping Method
   

Freight Forwarder

Total Price for Machine
   

6880 USD

Shipping fee
   

205 USD

Total Price
   

7085 USD

You should email them back at the confirmation email you received. Miner_order@ email works well for me to get a hold of them.

Indeed that is also my suggestion email reply back to your INNO order email confirmation with your payment stub confirmation... they should reply back... I did get an initial email saying I will be updated as payment is confirmed on their end takes a few days for intl wire to settle usually 2-3 days or more if on weekend.

Inno stated to start shipping today. Did anyone get a shipping notification?

Not to my knowledge, no.

Order ID: D9INNO2018042417

Update for day #4 - Payment still "not confirmed" no shipping or tracking number. Order placed and paid in full on April 23rd at 3:00pm. Innosilicon emailed me that the process takes 2 days to confirm: "The BTC/LTC verification can be quick, the financial department needs to get the newest book of the payment every two days, that is why they take time."

Reached out to Innosilicon last night who told me:

"If we keep replying to the email to you we cannot do the payment check at the same time, thanks!"

I've reached out to several people who said they're in the same situation. This thread has been viewed almost 1,200 times, so hopefully Innosilicon understands that their customers are watching to see what happens with this batch. If they are able to send out those tracking numbers today - it would go a long way for instilling customers trust in their company.

Thank you for your suggestion. We will also give your feedback to our manager.

Thank you!

Any info on number of units Halong and Innosilicon are selling of each Decred and Sia models for this end of April batch release?

Keeping eye on difficulty and profitability once these hit...

Reading through the above A5 thread should be cause for concern on a larger scale, seems like this was glossed over in this thread... A5 Dash miner (and competition with Bitmain where both flooded markets with units) is often mentioned by others as a lesson for all coins...  Worried that same fate is near for LTC , and then could be soon for SIA and DECRED miners as well. 

Even BTC isn't great ROI at this point , mine and hold all coins for those of us holding miners (but as many point out, buying crypto alone will likely be less risky than mining going forward)...

Sad because miners secure network, so at least you can find comfort in LTC, BTC, DCR, and SIA being "secure" projects, until miners lose interest ...

The Halong units have already been shipped and received but the difficulty hasn't spiked like you would expect if it was Bitmain making the miners. From what I see Halong and Innosilicon are doing it the right way and not flooding the market with new miners forcing everyone to take a hit on their return. I'd expect about the same small hash spike when the D9 is shipped and everyone gets to make money.

Why would you expect that with no information on the quantity of miners sold / shipped, that makes no sense. For those that bought I hope you're right...

In searching the threads it appears some of the Halong B29's (Decred) and B52's (SIA) have arrived to those who ordered ... I think some are still waiting... not sure the Innosilicon miners have shipped (this thread says shipping starts today) ...

With these SIA miners (miners B52 and D9) over 4 times the hash power of current Bitmain A3 products , and plenty of those out there in the market,  I still give it a few weeks to see shipments and home miners get plugged in before I make any determinations about the difficulty changing for SIA... as for the D9 there's no Bitmain miner so that's nice , but there still should be a huge spike in difficulty in the coming days...

I haven't seen any confirmation of units being shipped from Inno. There's several of us who pre-ordered who have not received any tracking number.

The Halong ones you mentioned were a super small batch that was sent out a few weeks ago - and then went "unavailable" until Inno announced the D9 and Sia miners.

Keep in mind - They said 2-3 day payment confirmation and shipping on April 27th. It's now April 28th in China and no one's received a tracking number. The miners are sold out, but if you pre-ordered and paid; shouldn't you have your tracking number in hand now?

Hey don't get me wrong, I'd love for this to work out and get my hands on a Decred Asic soon as well, but I'm starting to be more jaded / skeptical with mining hardware releases ...

As for release timings, they are spot on to secure relative batch profitability. Good work to Halong & Inno for making sure that end of things is in order!

They appear to be out of stock now, with a message indicating a new batch will be in stock soon. Let's see how the deliveries go -- No one I know has received a tracking number yet however, it is already the 28th in HK.

Margins may still be in danger if any other manufacturers flood the market with Decreds, it could turn into a dash situation fairly quickly if Bitmain floods the market with Decred miners for instance.

This thing currently makes 6.4k a month. Hopefully they will ship.it soon and not keep it or use it to mine for themselves...

This is from Inno's website -

"All D9 DecredMaster will be tested by factory before shipment and certified by Innosilicon. The post-sales service policy is as follows. After payment, your order will be processed immediately."

Payment processing is "2-3 days for LTC or BTC" or up to 5 days for USD wire. Sometimes the bank wire doesn't reach it's destination for 5-7 days. If you see the USD has been taken from your account, it doesn't mean Inno is in receipt of it - it simply means that your banking institution has proceeded with the international wire transfer. From the point it exits your account it generally takes about 5-6 days from the USA to China (can be faster or slower). At that point, someone from Inno would need to actually retrieve the wire transfer.

I'm sure they'll be "tested" before shipment (if they ship). :D

Since the D9's are the exact same specs and Halongs B29 they must be using the exact same Samsung chips. I'm willing to bet that Halong got first bid on their first shipment of chips and Inno got in an order for the second batch. Since this is Samsungs first miner chip made I doubt batch 2 that Inno purchased would be an increased from what Halong shipped out. The networks hashrate for Decred increased by about 5% when Halongs miners came out and I've been making about the same decred per day since I got my B29 2 weeks ago. Also you can see that Inno has the S11 miners running right now for their testing before they ship and I'm willing to be they are doing the exact same thing for the D9 so the hashrate you see for the network won't change a lot.

What pool are you mining with? I'm thinking about Coinmine.pl or Luxor

I placed my order on 04/23 via bank wire transfer and received confirmation of payment a few days later, not 5-7 business days. I suppose this may vary depending on your bank.

I received the following message this morning in the twilight hours. 

"Thank you for your payment, your payment has been confirmed. We will arrange the shipment tomorrow and send you the tracking No when we get the feedback from our factory."

I've been pleased with their response time to emails and the Mod of this thread. 

Please let us know when you receive your tracking information.

Right now I'm mining with Luxor. I was using Coinmine.pl but they were showing my miner as only running at 1.6TH/s and the payouts were actually the same as Luxor's PPS. I'm not sure how that is because Coinmine is using PPLNS and 1% fee so something fishy is going on with that pool. The only downside to Luxor is that they charge 3% and that equals out to a couple hundred $ a month :(

What pool are you mining with? I'm thinking about Coinmine.pl or Luxor
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Right now I'm mining with Luxor. I was using Coinmine.pl but they were showing my miner as only running at 1.6TH/s and the payouts were actually the same as Luxor's PPS. I'm not sure how that is because Coinmine is using PPLNS and 1% fee so something fishy is going on with that pool. The only downside to Luxor is that they charge 3% and that equals out to a couple hundred $ a month :(
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Thanks for the info... Are there any other pools that others have success with?

I've read that people were having pretty good success at Suprnova in terms of obtaining more coins vs Luxor, not sure if that still holds true. Success stories or recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

I just found this interesting video on Youtube under the Asic Minermarket and they written down that the Inno S11 is in fact the Halong B52. They call it the S11 Dragonmint B52....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJA8ma9IQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJA8ma9IQc)

We told you many times to stay away from thoses liars chinese ASIC companies and anyway you trade with them, now you are crying ...

Nooooo! Just as the D9 sold out on Innosilicon, a day later the B29 is now available and a bit cheaper than what Inno is offering. Ship date 5/21- 5/30. So much for the "Now Offering Discount" and even worse timing for not flooding the market, driving difficulty up and ROI further out.

D9 and S11's available again with Ship Dates: 5/7 - 5/11.

Thank you for all our customers’ trust and support, we achieve good success in our pre-order of batch one products for A8+, D9, S11. We feel impressed and responsible for all our customers. Thus our sales department, financial department and factory work together thought nights this week to confirm every payment and move forward for every shipment ASAP.

To ship all the pre-ordered miners to our customers ASAP, we store a volume of goods in our Hongkong warehouse for the shipment convenience. Customers who get payment confirmation based on the payment sequence have got their goods shipped from April 24th. Now the shipment is confirmed by the DHL/UPS/Fedex, the tracking No have been provided to our customers by emails. The second and third batches are on the shipment to our Hongkong warehouse and depart. The tracking No will be feedback to customers after we get the notice from the forwarders.

http://www.innosilicon.com/statics/images/20180428150710.png

Customers provide their bank slip in time, since the international transfer takes different period, our bank cannot receive the transfer amount in time, and thus some customers’ payment cannot be verified on time. Based on our previous experience, some customers’ transfers even arrive in our ban account 5 days later or more. We feel sorry that we cannot arrange the shipment in time for the unconfirmed payment.

One more to explain, during the May Day holiday, many logistic partners (especially the partners in Hongkong) are having this holiday and unable to depart the goods for the holiday celebration. So the goods arrive in Hongkong recently may be departed from May 2nd, which cause the delay in the final shipment to each customers. We are anxious for the shipment arrangement delay by the holiday. To avoid this kind of situation later, we will arrange the shipment deliver period without the holidays in our other batches. Sorry for the inconvenience for the shipment.

Thank you again for all the trust and support in Innosilicon, and we will work hard continuously to provide better miners and service for all crypto currency customers. And we will evaluate from this batch and optimize our work with the best miners, quicker response and faster shipment!

Thank you for all our customers and have a nice day!

Any one received tracking number by now?plz confirm

I'm also interested to know if anyone received their tracking number yet from inno.

I've had my order confirmed on April 23rd but still haven't received tracking for the order. When will I get tracking?

Sent a bank wire on 19 April and still no payment confirmation, no info on shipping.  Only emails I get back from Innosilicon are 'be patient'... thinking this whole thing was not a good idea.

Got confirm my payment april24, and after reading their post today sent them mail , asking why I haven't recieved tracking number yet . They replyed saying that my payment was confirmed TODAY!!!!! bS

Just got an email back from them saying they are on holiday until May 2 now...  I guess anyone who didn't get a confirmation already is out of luck for this shipping batch? 

.....I think not only those without confirmation , I do have confirmation and no tracking number too. Payment was maid on april 19 , got mail from them "thanks for you payment" on 21st, then they confirmed it on 24. Doesn't sound good

I can still see all the S11's mining on the network. It looks like they haven't started shipping anything yet and will still mine at least through the weekend....
siamining.com/addresses/0104ceeee0c1335e6770b9e620baa87615e1780ea1a5e6bca2df2651c92313f9c3aa56865535 (http://siamining.com/addresses/0104ceeee0c1335e6770b9e620baa87615e1780ea1a5e6bca2df2651c92313f9c3aa56865535)

Not a good sign.  I'm hoping that all these shipping/confirmation delays aren't because sia spiked in price and they're trying to squeeze out some more 'testing' before shipment.. 

After 5 or 6 days, I did receive payment confirmation lastnight around 1am EST.

However, just like everyone else - no tracking number.

Here's some proof that they're all up and running in China.

https://preview.ibb.co/cP94gx/Decred_Diff.png (https://ibb.co/dASqMx)

On the 27th and 28th the network difficulty basically doubled.

The value of the coin has gone up, but if every batch ramps up this quickly - you can expect to see ROI get halved ... and then halved again.

If you were following profitability on a daily scale, you likely noticed that it went from about $200 per day to about $150 today. By the time they reach consumers, it'll likely be closer to $100 per day (if not lower).

The same holds true for SIA.

As for the May holiday - that's Tuesday of this upcoming week. It's essentially Chinese Labour day. If they're true to their word - they would ship between now and Monday. Something tells me that we might see some further delays.

If it true that they mine with ours machines I would assume we will recieve second batch . This batch will be mining to the end.

Its no coincidence all these new batches became available yesterday, inno and halong are charging the same price as before which makes nosense, 4x batches from obelisk start june/july of dcr and sc, inno buyers are still waiting for their april batch, now there's another inno batch due 11th may and new halong batch 31st may. There is 3 batches due just this may, (includes inno april batch) What this does to difficulty noone knows, but these are being sold before you find out so they can charge max amount. The pumps of sc and dcr on the 26th and 25th look orchestrated to increase profits for these recent batches. Another risk is Bitmain producing their own dcr miner ,which is overdue. Im hoping this doesnt become like a x11 situation, but even x11 had multiple coins.

I believe the only reason why Bitmain hasn't released a miner for DCR is that they can't produce a miner close to what the samsung chips can deliver. I just think its BS that Innosilicon hasn't even shipped anyone miners from the first batch to customers and they are already selling miners for a second batch much cheaper only a week later....

I'm starting to wonder if this mining gig is for me. If I would of bought $7,125 worth of DCR on April, 20th, when I made the bank transfer, it would be worth $9,865 right now. What are the odds I can make $2,740 on this miner?

Anyways, I'm in the same boat as everyone else. They confirmed my payment on April 24th, via bank transfer. I emailed them today with, "Tracking number?" and they replied with, "will be sent to you later, thanks!" so hopefully that means by April 30th.

Same store here, but I don't think they will work on Monday , they have long weekend with holyday. I would assume may 2 if ...

Its a joke this , have make an order and delivery writing to 27 at 30 april , i never have received tracking number but my payement come to 23 april , after have read this post have contact inno for my order and i received this email .

Dear customer,

Hope everything goes well with you!

Due to the  Labor Day, we will take a holiday from April 29th to May 2nd. Sorry since we are in holiday so we couldn’t reply to your email. But we will follow up your emails and feedback once back to work. For any purchase support needed, please contact our skype live:shupp_7 as Inno Miner Sales 3. Thanks!

We are so sorry for the inconvenience. Your understanding would be appreciated.

Wish you a nice day :)


so, after 3 order on bitmain with never have problem and respect the delay, sorry for my english.

I ordered 1x D9 and 1x S11 on April 18.. Paid in BTC for both orders (had to do and order for each because I couldn't add both items into 1 shopping cart)

Unless I am mistaken.. they only confirmed the payment for my D9 order.. and then they gave me a tracking number April 27 and said it was only for my S11 (which they never confirmed my payment for it seemed)

I'm not sure if they have shipped my D9 order

Also, before anything was shipped I asked if I could change my shipping address.. First they asked me what is the new address I'd like to ship to and after I gave it, they said they couldn't change the shipping address

S11 Paid on 18th April, confirmed on 26th April, shipped on 28th April, delivery will be on 1st May
D9 Paid, confirmed on 25th April, not shipped yet, any news about the delayed shipping?

Nice!! I just received FedEx tracking for my D9 miner with 4/30 shipping! ;D

Hopefully everyone who’s payment was confirmed will receive their info today.  They’ve been responsive to all my emails. Smooth transaction via wire transfer from BoA.

Looking forward to mining DCR. Thank you, Inno!

That price increase was just a pump to lure buyers to the miners, sc and dcr are already coming back down. I have my doubts of the demand of these coins vs the hash power thats going to be thrown at them.

Have receveid my tracking number to dhl today, so i hope other customer have received tracking number.

Well, according to mycryptobuddy calculator you'll get 3691 dollars of profit from this even with the difficulty increasing 100% every month from here on now, and I calculated it with a expensive 0.2 kwh/$ electricity. Assuming the price doesn't change. If it changes -5% each month you will still get 2600 dollars from this.

Did you guys even bother to check this out?

Whats with this Blake256 algo? Why its delivering the best numbers and its lone got 1 coin on it, decred. Why is decred a lot more productive to mine than some other coin in the market? Is this a dangerous purchase like the X3?

Its lucrative now. Also, in what capacity will everybody hopping on this influence the benefit/trouble? I truly need to purchase a couple yet uncertain how hazardous it is. Need to get more taught. Any assistance is exceptionally valued!

Not as dangerous considering Decred shows no signs of potentially forking to get rid of Blake256 ASICs, but there's still risk in the fact that these mine essentially just one coin as of now (Decred).

If you're talking pros and cons of this miner, difficulty is going to be one factor that's going to influence profitability dramatically. There's competition with Halong as they also announced their own Blake256 ASIC, and once both units are received by consumers profitability will drop dramatically. This miner will also be very loud as I hope you already know (comparable to a vacuum cleaner like most industrial grade miners); it's a bit of a gamble, but if you're looking for something risky and possibly profitable this wouldn't be a bad choice.

Yeah, "Competition". As it is the one and same miner with two different style labelling.  :D

I can't believe I didn't notice they had the exact same specifications; I guess I didn't read enough of the Halong and Innosilicon threads around here recently. Now that you say that, I can really see the Innosilicon connection with Halong more clearly that people were talking about a while back now...

I finally got tracking for my D9. It shows that the shipping label was made but it doesn't show that it has been picked up....

Paid on April 23rd - still no shipping label.

But I guess it's good to hear that they're starting to roll out.

Have you been able to see your actual ETA?

No it doesn't give me an ETA. It just shows that shipment information was received on the 27th but nothing shows being picked up or actually shipped. It sounds to me like they just printed the shipping label and got it boxed up but it hasn't been picked up from the factory yet...

I think that email is an auto-reply. I received the exact same email thanking them from my tracking info.

Same here. It says estimated delivery of 4/30. No way that’s happening but hopefully it’s next in line.

Whenever more asics get added to a network that was dominated by non asic miners (gpu/cpu) difficulty skys and profitability drops significantly.  The problem most people have is using calculators that dont account for future hashpower being added and their eyes light up.  Its a mirage usually, but first batches of these do ok so long as the hardware doesnt flop.

That is partially true. The true problem is that no one know how many miners the companies are selling per batch. Most companies lie like Bitmain and say they are only shipping 2,500 or some low number but then when you do the math they released 10,000+ and are selling multiple batches that all come out a few weeks apart which destroys the difficulty and any potential profit. Halong and Inno are playing with fire right now because they have the chance to ruin Bitmain by releasing a quality product and not flooding the market so that customers get burnt. From my experience dealing with both of them so far seems to still be shady. They both released the exact same miners and the release dates for both just so happen to be around a "Holiday" where they delay shipping. They can still keep them in "Testing" making money with our hardware when they should be half way around the world in our farms. So far only Bitmain has released miners on time and even ahead of time so Halong and Inno better pick up their game or people will just keep buying from Bitmain because they are reliable.

The s11 is on a network that is about 32000tb

That is 8000 of these.

So if they are selling 2000 or 3000 the s11 will make pretty good money.

for me have receveid pick up to dhl its on 1 may , i hope all customer have received pick up because its lot of money have pay for this asic .

Paid April 23rd - received confirmation April 28th. No shipping confirmation.

Sent email - didn't get any response. Frustrating.

Stupid question -

For those of you using Luxor - does it only pay out in the original coin?

For example - If i use a Coinbase Wallet, but want to mine on Luxor - it won't convert Lbry, Sia or Decred into BTC.

Would you need a Decred Wallet to use Luxor?

Correct, Luxor doesn't exchange / convert coins, so you'll want a decred wallet
A great way to convert coins from Decred to something else is mine to an exchange (like Bittrex) , or use an Exodus wallet which has an exchange built into it (and supports Decred)

Decrediton is a pretty good wallet too. Recent update was a nice one! 1.2.0

As for these units, they're all sitting around waiting to be fulfilled. 27-30th advertised delivery didn't come around, neither did the shipping timeframe.

Today I received message from DHL by email, the shipment under way and estimated day is May 3 rd by the end of the day!!!!  Yes!!!!!!

Did you receive anything from Inno about your shipping or did you go from payment confirmation to receiving an email from DHL?

You sound like the lucky few - most of us who have paid have zero updates about shipping.

Received payment confirmation on April 24, DHL tracking number two days ago, finally today DHL tracking shows some movement and now package left Honkong and estimated date is May 3 !!! I saw many peoples here had DHL tracking Np

Currently the prices are higher than usual and the BTC prices are not updated.

Ordered on 4/23, paid via bank wire a couple hours after
Received payment confirmation on 4/26
Tracking number on 4/29
DHL detail says my miners are already in Cincinnatti and released by customs
Should be availble for me to pickup from my local hub on 5/3

So yes, those who ordered early and managed to get payment confirmation early are getting theirs soon

   Innosilicon A8+ CryptoMaster
   
Apr 2018
   
240Kh/s
   
480W
   
70db
   
CryptoNight
   
$2,088.52/day
 Got this from asicminervalue! Is this  glitch or something happening with Monero?

This is SCAM! Monero use CryptoNightV7, Innosilicon A8(+) can mine only CryptoNight and CryptoNight-light

Hi, I will be receiving my miner within 4 days. Can someone let me know which pool would be the best to mine for D9?

Thanks.

I've had most success on coinmine.

Hello thank you for your interest. A8+ is CryptoNight miner, which can mine ETN and XMC.

I should be receiving my D9 today! FedEx tracking shows it’s in town.

Let us know how it goes..

• Order ID: D9INNO2018042417
• Paid in BTC within 30 minutes on April 23rd.
• Payment confirmed on April 28th.
• May 2nd received the following: "It's still waiting to be shipped"

So far, 10 days since making payment and still don't have a tracking number.

My tracking finally shows that it has been picked up so I'm thinking it will be arriving either Friday or early next week.

I got a notification, "We need your help, DHL shipment #xxx is missing customs information and may be delayed. Go to www.dhl-usa.com/cod." What in the world? Has anybody else dealt with this before? Thanks.

Mine was released through customs with no issue, but the link in the text I got did say that I owe $62.82 for import duty/tax at pickup.  I was pleased with that amount, was afraid it was going to be several hundred for a $15K order of four S11s with power supplies.   Earlier this year I sent one A4 to Canada and the buyer had to pay more than that, so I am thankful this is inexpensive.

They may need you SSN number since it’s an international shipment.

Got a text from the wifey saying the FedEx delivered my package. Hope everyone who had their payments confirmed on time receives their orders soon.

I’ve had nothing but a smooth buying experience from Inno. Thanks!

Had the same experience ordering from china, had to give some additional info for customs and paid a small amount... Early on I tried an order with DHL and one with FEDEX on different orders, and DHL was much cheaper and easier to deal with in my opinion importing into the US.

What specifically was cheaper? The shipment costs or the import tax/brokerage fees?

Ok, sorry, it was UPS (not Fedex), and DHL that I used on different Antminer orders to compare
To answer your question it was both shipment cost and import fees...

Here's what I can looked up :
Shipping
$75 per miner to ship DHL vs. $138 to ship UPS (charged by Bitmain, so could have to do with their rates - may not apply directly to Innosilicon)
$55 per PSU to ship DHL vs. $77 per PSU to ship UPS

IMPORT
$37 DHL import charge (1 miner and PSU) vs. $141 UPS (1miner and PSU)
Used DHL again next order, and $37 same charge but for 2 miners and 2 psu's ..

Just my experience with DHL and UPS, now I'd love to hear from FEDEX users too...

That’s true about UPS. Highest priced shipping costs and even worse on import fees. I haven’t used DHL but have been happy with FedEx. I think they charge the least for import tax and shipping. I won’t use UPS for international shipping, learned the hard way with the Antminers.

I called and they replied back via email with:

"I am the Imports agent assigned to assist you with your request regarding this shipment. I have ascertained what is needed is;

1- IRS / TAX ID
Company (Corp., Inc., or LLC. Etc.)
Street address
City, State & Zip       
Phone #
Point of contact full name:   First & last
Email address;

Please note without this information customs entry is delayed as DHL is only allowed 10 calendar days to make entry, your shipment can not be held indefinitely and must return on the expiration date of 5/11.

Please be advised that I will continue to monitor for the requested information.  Feel free to contact me with any further questions about this issue, I am resetting this file now to provide an update on 5/3  by 5pm your time."

I emailed back the info, so hopefully we are good.

Good luck, let us know how it goes!

There is no difference in the design and it is exactly the same without a problem.

 Got my D9 today and its running at 2.35Th :D

Got mine too, running the same!  8)

What pool are you connected to?

Surprise, surprise!!!

Plugged in the D9, scanned for IP and lookie there - DragonMint. Typed in the IP address and the DragonMint GUI appears.

Followed the Luxor directions to add the DragonMint B29, entered the worker which looks like a wallet address followed by .whateveryouwanttocallit

Entered the worker (wallet) address on the Search bar on Luxor, once connected, pulled up statistics and it immediately had an unpaid balance as well as Paid Rewards of 1.17 DCR. Miner Reward Transactions has payments processed 13 days ago and a few payments a month ago. I presume this is the "testing" that occurred with this miner but who would have guessed on Luxor's pool. More importantly, this would tell me that this worker (wallet) address does not belong to me and needs to be changed.

If this worker (wallet) address belongs to someone else (Innosilicon), I need to change the worker name to my address I created on Decrediton, right? I don't see an option to set a payment wallet address so I'm assuming you have to configure the miner to your wallet so you're not mining free coins to someone else.  

Can someone please confirm if I need to change the worker name under Settings / Pools? Or what I need to do, thanks in advance.  

Connected to Supernova, and its  Dragonmint!!!!!

Yes. You want to align your miners to your account (For instance, mine are Dimaze.001, Dimaze.002, ect), the payout address in the account settings is the one the pool pays out to.

Happy mining :)

Couldn't get it connected to Luxor pool for some reason. Followed their instructions and updated the worker name to my DCR wallet address and it wouldn't connect but I'm connected to Coinmine just fine.

What's your average hash rate for your miners?

If you check the other Halong B29 thread, I've got my settings posted there and you can see the format I have it in. Should work for you if you want to Luxor it up.

My average is around 1.9-2 TH poolside, below what the GUI shows (2.3-2.36). I hope this is rectified in a future firmware update.

Hello ,

Have one question for power cable to PSU its same to bitmain power cable you use?  thanks for help me, its my first order with this company and have take D9 Inno received today.

I have looking to innosilicon and its writing standard IEC C14 AC power cable. Its male or female to take ?
thanks for your time

https://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00214152.html

Hello thank you for your feedback.

Did your problem has been solved ?

You can find Innosilicon D9 Manual from http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/api/download.php?url=D9-DCR-manual-en.pdf

Feel free to contact miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn if you have technical problem. Thank you.

@Inno_ASIC can you please give an update on this order's status? I pre-ordered and paid in full. I received your payment confirmation, but I have not received any updates about shipping /tracking number.

Thank you for your support.

OK. We will check and reply you asap.

for me its turn to 1,94 at 1,96 with performance setting

It uses the exact same power cable as bitmain, same connector.

I couldnt ever get it connected to Luxor pool but had no problems connecting to coinmine. Thanks for providing the link to the manual. I’ll have to check it out.

thanks KashHappy for answer

You have set up on luxor
https://medium.com/@LuxorTechTeam/halong-dragonmint-b29-decred-setup-guide-18c081e85c0b

and your writing

Worker: YourDecredAddress.username

To find your user , simply go to decred.luxor.tech and type in your wallet address at the top of the searchbar.
make just your wallet address without username.
I hope it will help you

How hot and loud does this run? Could I run one of them in my basement comfortably?

@Inno_ASIC

Order ID D9INNO2018042617
Order Placed on 4/25/18
Payment Confirmation Received on 4/26/18
7 Days past since payment was confirmed!

When Tracking Number and shipment of my units?
Whats the delay?!

1400 watts and pretty loud.

Thanks Chris. These are the steps I followed but could not connect for some reason. Left it running with the Luxor pool setting for a good 20 minutes and no dice.

They are setting it firmly and I must wait for the prices to drop and then purchase.

Paid, confirmed etc....

Tracking number issued (created online by Innosilicon says DHL) on April 28th 2018

Tracking number says still in Hong Kong

Emailed Innosilicon with tracking number and they state DHL has it.

Phoned DHL and asked whats going on....

DHL states Innosilcon failed to bring the package(s) for delivery to DHL on April 28th and have yet to bring them the package.

DHL states they do not have the package as of May 03 2018 (GMT -8)  11:03 am

Summary:

Money/crypto accepted and confirmed with a phantom online tracking number that hasn't had any package physically delivered or associated with it.

INNOSILICON HAS NOT SHIPPED THE UNIT

On time shipping?!  


You are lucky if they don't loose the payment information on the entire shipment!  That is what happened to me a lot of other buyers as well.  I would rather chew my arm off than go  through that again!

One of my 4 is not working, but the other 3 are humming along nicely.

Roughly 22 hours in the Luxor pool and already 6710 SC mined which is roughly $193 in revenue.  And from what I understand about PPLNS pools like Luxor, there is a "ramp up" period in the sharechain so you don't get full rewards until after 24 hours in the pool to prevent pool hopping so it's possible to earn even more if the pool is lucky on finding blocks.  It's always a trade-off against PPS pools like siamining - those pools have more steady income.  Not sure I'll stay at Luxor or not but liking it so far, good timing I guess!

Here's a link below if anyone is curious and was thinking of pointing their S11 at Luxor.  Btw, Luxor is currently 0% fees for SC, compared to 3% at siamining.  That may not sound like much but that is almost two hundred bucks a month if you have 4 of these, it adds up quick!

http://mining.luxor.tech/miners/SC/8110422ebe4927b4e60837c820e455071171554e68b28ec7cc5204f91ce770fa2beebc351fd3

What the hell is going on with Innosilicon and its Dolar-BTC conversion?
Innosilicon D9: USD 6800 / 0.792496 BTC
0.792496 BTC: USD 7750 !!! Almost 15% more expensive for payment in BTC and accuse the currency that is "unstable"
- If I had bought last night they received Bitcoin at a value of $ 9,200 and today it is worth $ 9,800! What is the "loss" they can have? That is to take advantage of the clients, try to make a more logical conversion, maybe $ 100 or 200 more expensive but not $ 1000. One pays more and the profitability is falling, passing from $ 220 to $ 160 and today to $ 130.

Could you please give your order ID to me? We will check and reply you asap.

Same here. Purchased 2 D9's. Paid over $15,000k USD. Inno has confirmed that they have my payment but still has not sent the miners. No tracking number.

Profitability has gone down rapidly since ordering.

@inno_asic why are you unable to provide a tracking number or ship the units? You've had my money for weeks now. I'm being told "be patient" - the unit was advertised to ship on April 27th and it's now May 4th. Your customers are frustrated and we are losing money that we could have had in the market.

Come use your D9's or dragonmints on our small pool 1% fee and no hash hoarding.
Just put up today 40thz and growing.
 www.minertopia.org  for details we've been around forever.

@Inno_ASIC could you please help me troubleshoot my D9 that I received today. 1 hashing board is not working

It has now been a WEEK since the cleared funds were confirmed available by my sending bank.

You closed for a holiday 2 days after the funds cleared

The profitability of the miner in question has now diminished more than $70 per day and the potential ROI is now more than 2 months in the future. and I am still chasing to confirm whether it has been shipped.

I wanted my miner, in my hand before the weekend - where's the tracking info?

In 3 days you are supposed to be shipping the next batch of orders - yet you still have not sent one paid for a week ago. 

Contact me immediately to let me know how you are going to compensate me for the delay and tell me when the miner will be in my possession.....

Paul.

The answer from Innosilicon the most "serious" company of miners, about my request to convert the price of BTC-USD well: "The price of D9 will not change", they do not care about customers, they only care about the money $$ .

Thank you for your feedback. Any problem for technical problem you can send email or add Skype miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn We will try our best to help you asap. Thank you.

Hello thank you for your feedback.

The price of the first batch and the second batch D9 is 6800 USD...It's not change...Because you say "The profit of D9 is now going down, and the price is goin up"

Feel free to let me know if you have any question. Thank you.

Hello thank you for your feedback. Could you please provide your order ID to me? We can check and push it.

I mean the conversion of users that so many people will stay, that you pay in BTC the price is almost $ 700 higher than paying in dollars. $ 6800 is an excellent price but if you could pay like this with Bitcoin or Litecoin, maybe $ 200 more expensive would not be a problem, but not $ 700 or $ 800, so the price does not go up to $ 7500 like now... It's just an opinion, and I would like it so I could buy and pay with Bitcoin as many people want. Thanks

PUSH MY ORDER ID D9INNO2018042617

Update:
Just received a tracking number for my order. Will post back with more updates. Thanks for now.

Sorry for customer don't have received .
but for me all its good ,have received asic d9 and i'm happy all its work just hasrate its little bit less to 2,1 . my miner work to 1,96 aproximatively.

thanks inno 

now i'm with luxor pool, its interesting to compare the payement with different pool for 24 hours how much people received .
at this moment with luxor have start yesterday at 1h30 pm 3 may at 4 may 9h48 am . have received payement

1.16 DCR pay
0.0184017 DCR unpayd

Luxor paid to 4 hours , have received 5 payment .

Paid D9 26.04.2018

Innosilicon confirmed my payment.

Order ID： D9INNO2018042651

Still no tracking order.

D9INNO2018042447

Still chasing

Been chasing for more than a week since the funds cleared.  

Need compensation for my trouble, time, lost ROI, and mental sanity.....

Hey Inno_ASIC when will you release the next batch of S11 miner?

May 4th update -

• Order ID: D9INNO2018042417
• Paid in BTC within 30 minutes on April 23rd.
• Payment confirmed on April 28th.
• May 2nd received the following: "It's still waiting to be shipped"
• May 4th received notification from Innosilicon with a DHL Tracking number

About the DHL Tracking number -

https://preview.ibb.co/eqni3n/Capture.jpg (https://ibb.co/fNNGOn)

The electronic waybill was created on April 30th at 10:27am. It wasn't sent to me until May 4th.

I called DHL this morning who told me:

DHL - "Innosilicon has not given us the package to ship. They created the waybill, but never actually shipped it"
- I asked if this was common
DHL - "With this company, we are seeing it a lot. It's likely that they have a back-order, or don't have any actual product to ship"
- I asked why they would do this
DHL - "Some companies want their customer to think that they're making progress on their shipment, so they create a "phantom" waybill but never ship the product".
- I asked what the next steps were
DHL - "From DHL's perspective, we can't do anything until the company gives us the product to ship. You will see your shipping updates as they happen once the package is in our hands. As for the company - They may, or may not ever ship your product."

There's over 2000 people who have read this thread. All of those were potential customers. I genuinely hope that Innosilicon is reading these forums and fully understands that their customers, who paid in full, are frustrated. I can't speak for everyone who's expressed their frustration with the process, but I feel like we're all tired of hearing "be patient".

Innosilicon set the following expectations:

• Payment confirmation within 2-3 days for BTC or LTC, up to 5 days for Bank Wire.
• Shipping April 27th

Your customers have lost their time, their ROI, and as of right now... their money. What are you going to do to make this up to your customers?

I am in the same situation as many people here and extremely unhappy about it -

order was placed April 19
Finally got tracking number May 2 - but has not shipped
I've been trying to reach Inno about this but so far the only reply I've gotten:

"Dear Customers,
For this pre-sale, once we give the tracking number to you which indicates that we have already prepared the goods separately and delivered them to the freight forwarder. Afterwards, the work is carried out by the freight forwarder to deliver the goods to the corresponding transporter (eg DHL, FEDEX, etc.), and entered its system for everyone to query. Regrettably, we do not have enough efforts and measures to monitor the work of freight forwarders at present. This has led to delays in a small number of shipments. Everyone (customers) put forward opinions and feelings of anxiety we all identify with. We also welcome you to contact us through the appropriate purchase channels. Thank you again for your support and welcome everyone to continue to give our opinions and suggestions on our work!"

At this rate the 2nd batch will ship before I receive my order!!

They answered exactly the same thing for my S11. Ordered me was made on April 18th. This may prevent me from achieving ROI. I am extremely disappointed.

Ordering #: S11INNO2018041950

I should be receiving my D9 today! FedEx tracking shows it’s in town.
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Let us know how it goes..

• Order ID: D9INNO2018042417
• Paid in BTC within 30 minutes on April 23rd.
• Payment confirmed on April 28th.
• May 2nd received the following: "It's still waiting to be shipped"

So far, 10 days since making payment and still don't have a tracking number.
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@Inno_ASIC can you please give an update on this order's status? I pre-ordered and paid in full. I received your payment confirmation, but I have not received any updates about shipping /tracking number.

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Same here. Purchased 2 D9's. Paid over $15,000k USD. Inno has confirmed that they have my payment but still has not sent the miners. No tracking number.

Profitability has gone down rapidly since ordering.

@inno_asic why are you unable to provide a tracking number or ship the units? You've had my money for weeks now. I'm being told "be patient" - the unit was advertised to ship on April 27th and it's now May 4th. Your customers are frustrated and we are losing money that we could have had in the market.


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May 4th update -

• Order ID: D9INNO2018042417
• Paid in BTC within 30 minutes on April 23rd.
• Payment confirmed on April 28th.
• May 2nd received the following: "It's still waiting to be shipped"
• May 4th received notification from Innosilicon with a DHL Tracking number

About the DHL Tracking number -

https://preview.ibb.co/eqni3n/Capture.jpg (https://ibb.co/fNNGOn)

The electronic waybill was created on April 30th at 10:27am. It wasn't sent to me until May 4th.

I called DHL this morning who told me:

DHL - "Innosilicon has not given us the package to ship. They created the waybill, but never actually shipped it"
- I asked if this was common
DHL - "With this company, we are seeing it a lot. It's likely that they have a back-order, or don't have any actual product to ship"
- I asked why they would do this
DHL - "Some companies want their customer to think that they're making progress on their shipment, so they create a "phantom" waybill but never ship the product".
- I asked what the next steps were
DHL - "From DHL's perspective, we can't do anything until the company gives us the product to ship. You will see your shipping updates as they happen once the package is in our hands. As for the company - They may, or may not ever ship your product."

There's over 2000 people who have read this thread. All of those were potential customers. I genuinely hope that Innosilicon is reading these forums and fully understands that their customers, who paid in full, are frustrated. I can't speak for everyone who's expressed their frustration with the process, but I feel like we're all tired of hearing "be patient".

Innosilicon set the following expectations:

• Payment confirmation within 2-3 days for BTC or LTC, up to 5 days for Bank Wire.
• Shipping April 27th

Your customers have lost their time, their ROI, and as of right now... their money. What are you going to do to make this up to your customers?



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Hello thank you for you feedback.

We ship goods to our customers via our Freight Forwarder. And they will give the goods to other logistics like DHL/ UPS/ Fedex according to the customer's request. It's a pity that Hong Kong took three days off from 29th April to 1st May and it waste some time.

It takes a little time for DHL to input the goods into the system when Freight Forwarder send goods to DHL.

We will continuously improve our service in the future. Looking forward to bring you the excellent customer experience in the future!

Nicehash didn't work on my D9 (maybe because I went through MRR?)

Have mine on Luxor atm, reports 1.75-1.95th/s... Has anyone compared Luxor to Coinmine?

I first had mine on suprnova but the reported hashrate seemed lower than it should be.. even less than Luxor

I still have mine going through MRR first.. I wonder if going straight to the pool without MRR would increase hashrate?

Has anyone managed to mine on Nicehash with their D9?

I've never had issues using MRR as a proxy, but it sure wouldn't hurt to try a direct connection.  Let us know what you find out.

Contacted DHL directly and spoke to the logistics manager. He provided me with receipts of "phantom waybills". He stated that the company (Innosilicon) has not provided the packages for shipment.

He said "If we had them, we would ship them - that's what we do". He then reiterated that they have not been provided any goods/packages to ship.

So @Inno_ASIC - You're telling your customers that DHL takes time to input the goods into their system? DHL is saying that they've received the electronic waybills 5 days ago. Are we to believe that DHL, an international logistics firm, is purposefully holding our miners and lying to us?  

Your Private messaging is turned off so can't message you via PM


You have asked for this information regarding my order.

My order number is:   S11INNO2018042205

Your team has told me via email that DHL had the package and to contact DHL. When i contacted DHL they said no package was submitted.  When I then contacted your team with this information they then said it was with the forwarders.

Someone is telling lies and misleading and I don't think it's DHL.

I also find it very suspect that the hashrate for SIA is still high (unchanged in fact) considering you were/are testing these (2k units+) .... for QA purposes...... of course.

INNOSILICON HAS STILL NOT SHIPPED THE UNIT

I just received mine, plugged in and working. I would of received it yesterday, except there was a slight hang up with customs and paying the duty tax import fee. I know this isn't like ordering from Amazon, so I'm sorry for the folks that are still waiting.

Agreed not Amazon but... at the least like Bitmain? (competitor)

First pay, first served! as they claim doesn't actually play out here at all.

Btw, something interesting to discuss:

When I received my S11s, they were already configured to mine to SiaMining, and to this wallet:
25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

You can actually look at the stats for that wallet:
https://siamining.com/addresses/25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

Something I thought we might talk about is the peak hashrate.  The tallest I see on that chart is the 29th, which might have been when they were testing batch 1 units just prior to shipment.  That peak is 977TH.  If we conservatively estimate each S11 at about 3.4Th pool-side reported hashrate, that is roughly 287 units.  So, it would be reasonable to think that might have been what the Batch 1 size was - maybe closer to 250 since there are still units online and mining (most combined under the worker1 moniker).  There seems to be a steady baseline of about 70-80Th, so maybe they have 25 or so that are online all the time.  There's also some peaks around May 2nd and 3rd which could have been when they got back from the holiday and had to test/ship more of them.

Another interesting item of note is the all-time payout to that wallet at the bottom is 52,075,518.06 SC.  At today's SC price, that's about $1.4 million dollars worth of SC.  If they held all that and sold it today, it would account for only about 4% of today's SC transaction volume (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/siacoin/#markets)
So, it doesn't appear they have a warehouse full of these mining anywhere, unless it's being done to a different wallet.  I know it's a common assumption that these companies have hardware online for "months" before shipping to us, but it doesn't appear to be the case here.

Oh, and if anyone is following my posts, I mentioned that 1 of my 4 were not working, ends up it was the power supply, not the miner.  Thankful that's all it was, but it wasn't immediately apparent to me since the control board was working fine and I could access the interface and everything - it just kept restarting.  I guess the power supply wasn't providing enough juice to run the hash boards.  Support was responsive to all my emails during troubleshooting, no complaints there at all.

Best of luck to everyone else, I hope you get your units soon!

So according to that address they were mining since 2018-04-04 19:40 UTC and made 108,351.33 SC that day.... that sure is a long test drive to me.

Very much appreciated - your detailed deep dive into wallet history and peek hash periods are very helpful to us all in at least getting some factual details together.

I for one received my tracking number today after waiting 8 days post payment confirmation. Not to conclude my particular situation but like another poster mentioned - I called DHL to get more info on my packages since I ordered many units and they told me none of the packages are yet received by DHL. Oddly I received the tracking today but the tracking number is marked as created on 4/30 as per DHL tracking information details.

If this is what is happening to all current shipments where there is only a tracking number but no actual packages to track how long is this phase of limbo are we to expect a real trackable package for the products we paid for? Patience is far past since others are complaining about the same exact situations.

It drops off a lot at 4/9, so my thought was that was probably the first batch of B52's that Halong Mining sent out (keep in mind all these miners are just rebadged DragonMint miners), they tested them for 5 days before sending them out to buyers.

I have had my phantom tracking ID since Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 21:30 and have discussed with DHL to which DHL stated they have no physical package at all.

@Inno claims DHL is slow to insert into their systems yet DHL clearly shows this statement on their tracking page:

No need to call Customer Service – our online results give you real-time, detailed progress as your shipment speeds through the DHL network.

So lets try and help INNO out here with feedback that will be useful and more accurate to us and potential customers...

I would start by suggesting to detail the ordering process more realistically based on these facts here - we have been confirmed as paid for up to 10+ days with no confirmed shipped goods in some cases.

As such ship date with real tracking numbers that show as DHL received goods should be noted as exact days post payment confirmation not the fake 3 days shipment thats noted on the website. This is obviously not the case by a long shot.

Other members what do you suggest?

So far my case - payment confirmation on 26th - tracking without DHL received of goods on 4th (8 days). Still not shipped according to DHL... Same as other members have noted.

Payment Date: April 21 2018

Confirmation Date: April 27 2018

Tracking # Issue Date (email):  April 29 2018

Communication from @Inno: May 02 2018

The goods have already been delivered to the DHL.
For more information, please consult DHL

As of May 04 2018, DHL claims no drop of any package for the tracking number supplied has occurred.

Waybill: xxxxxxxxxxx
Shipment information received
Sign up for shipment notifications
Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 21:30
Origin Service Area:
HONG KONG - HONG KONG - HONG KONG
Destination Service Area:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Saturday, April 28, 2018                              Location                            Time          Pieces
1   Shipment information received   HONG KONG - HONG KONG    21:30               x2


INNOSILICON HAS STILL NOT SHIPPED THE UNIT

Interesting new bit of information here....

The S11 units appear to have a new firmware available dated April 28 2018

 S11_20180428_063624.swu 080FE99C9A474D4C07C8888EFDD8FC6D

URL source: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/downA4/

I wonder if they are needing to flash units after they realized they originally shipped out with Halong SW installed rather than their own UX?


Just a thought....

Same here! Board #1 is not working.  Have you figured out the problem?

These are two different brands, but the designs of this are exactly the same.

The firmware update available from Innosilicon's website is identical to the one available from Halong.  The update does make the interface better.  I did not do any performance comparison to see if it hashes faster or anything like that between the stock firmware and this update.  One bug I've found so far is that the "autotune" for performance never ends.  Doesn't seem to affect things tho.

PS C:\firmware> get-filehash *.swu

Algorithm       Hash                                                                   Path                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
---------       ----                                                                   ----                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\b52_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\S11_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Regarding configuring the decred miner to nicehash's stratum server, I contacted them before I received mine and they said,

*****************
Hello!

I can tell you that we do not support Innosilicon miners. We have not had any known experiences with Halog B29 yet.

Kind regards,
NiceHash Team
*****************

I've also attempted to configure my D9 to the nicehash stratum. It resolved as "alive" but it was rejecting every share. Unfortunately, nicehash doesn't seem to know that the D9 (inno) and the B29 (halong) are the same miners.

I would hope that the more people complain about this, the more they'll do to support the D9 and B29 on the decred stratum.

That's silly! I would have told them it is a B29. The only thing that I've noticed thats different is the sticker. I'd try sending another message stating you have problems with your B29 miner. Why are you using Nicehash btw? Why not mine at a pool?

Hopefully, Inno will add a conversion interface soon that more closely mirrors the market value for BTC/LTC rates. That's quite a bit of annoyed people. Until then, those that don't want to pay a premium buying with BTC/LTC might consider converting your coins to USD and do a bank wire purchase. Inno seems to value USD more. Kinda ironic but it is what it is until it isn't.

Shipping is a different story. I had a smooth transaction, sucks so many have concerns. I would think your orders would go out before batch 2 begins shipping.

Finally some movement....

Saturday, May 05, 2018   Location   Time   Pieces
3   Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:14   
2 Pieces

2   Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:06   
2 Pieces

1   Shipment picked up   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   14:41   
2 Pieces

Estimated Delivery:
Tuesday, May 08, 2018
By End of Day


Purchase date of April 21 2018

I won't be walking down this path again I can say that.

Shopping experience: 1 star (out of 10) Innosilicon

Bitmain 8 star (out of 10) --- as compared to what.... and YES  I was hoping for an alternative.

Hello,

According to you, it would be the best (and easiest to use) pool for my S11 and my D9, taking into account that I am a newbie in mining. I had prepared to use Nicehash, but it does not seem to work with the S11 and D9. I will receive my minor on May 8th and 9th.

Thank you for your help

I think the problems with Nicehash were only with the D9.  I pointed one of my S11s at Nicehash for 1.5 hour and it was working.  However, the pool-side reported hashrate seemed lower.  In my mind, that sorta offset the convenience of being paid in bitcoin.

I have my S11s pointed at Luxor.  The list of pools for Siacoin is short, so you don't have a lot to pick from in reality

https://siastats.info/mining_pools

The advantage of SiaMining is that it's a PPS system, which means you accumulate siacoin for every minute they're mining, even when the pool doesn't hit a block.  The downside is the 3% fee.
Luxor is a PPLNS system, which means you only get paid when the pool hits a block.  So, you could go many hours with no payout at all, then get a large chunk payout when the pool hits a block.  Over time it should all even out statistically, and Luxor currently is 0% fee according to their website.
The other note about Luxor PPLNS is that there is a 24-hour ramp-up to prevent pool hopping, so your payouts in that first day will be less than usual as you build up your participation in the sharechain.

So I finally got my D9 yesterday and after getting it I compared it to my Halong B29. These 2 machines are identical except for the case that the hashboards are sitting in. I was confused when hooking it up for the first time because it shows up as Dragonmint on the network  ???. Then when I logged into it the firmware was the exact same as the B29 except it is a slightly upgraded firmware then what Halong's miners came with. Does anyone know where to get the updated firmware because the firmware update check is obviously not working on the miners yet? Another thing that I noticed is that the D9 runs much cooler then the B29. Currently the D9 runs at about 60C and hashes at 2.36TH/s and the B29 runs at 79C and hashes at 2.39TH/s. I was able to connect both miners to Luxor's pool and they are hashing away without any issues.

EDIT:
I got the latest firmware update from Inno and applied it to my B29 and now my temps dropped to 60C and it runs the exact same as the D9  ;D

Innosilicon woes.....

Well I paid last month on the 24th, the bank confirmed funds in account on the 27th. 

Then Innosilicon shut down for 4 days on the 29th.

I've subsequently been chasing them day and night via email, skype and now facebook posts to try to get some movement.

They claimed it was still under payment verification up until last Wednesday when I got a payment verification.

Last thing on Friday they gave me a pre-prepared Fedex AWB number that still states they have not received package (only after I sent one from a competitor showing shipping to my location - as they used some lame excuse that they could not ship to my location -- this even after they told me they had already shipped it and were going to provide tracking a day or two before).

My AWB still shows no receipt of device, and with an expected delivery of Tuesday.

Personally, I'm disgusted with the lack of contact, service and poor logistics.

Imagine you go into a dealership and pay $7000+ for a brand new car, yet the dealer decides to keep hold of it for 2 weeks, driving it around, putting mileage on the clock and you get annoyed

That's exactly how I feel right now

I've paid in full for a brand new miner - and been chasing for almost two weeks - all the time being given the runaround about it being shipped

For all I know, my brand new miner is plugged in, earning someone more than $100 per day while I sit here wondering if and when I eventually do get it, it'll be dusty, scratched, with plenty of mileage already on it

And maybe not even manage to create the ROI as the value of Decred continues to decrease

So in my last response from them on Skype, they say they will check for me on Monday.

Here's what I want......

I want my miner, in my hand before Tuesday, I want an immediate refund of $1000 due the lies and deceitful business behavior as on Monday they should be shipping the NEXT batch of miners. 

What do people suggest I do next?

Honestly, you have two options:
1) You keep chasing them till you get your miner and just forget about the entire dilemma over a cold beer.
2) You could send them threatening emails of suing them or asking for refunds etc, but honestly that won't work.

From my experience with Innosilicon, I have always purchased their device by paying $200-$400 more from other vendors as they have it in stock, and ship it within 2 days of receiving funds. My miner was shipped the next day after I transferred RMB to my vendor, and within 4 days, it reached my location through DHL (i.e. Tomorrow).

I feel their main language is not English, so there is a bit of an issue when communicating, but I have had absolutely no issues with the after-sales team for my other A4+ miners. Also, they must be quite over loaded with the number of orders coming through and just to let you know, I have spoken to not less than 20 vendors, and all of them are able to supply up-to 30 Miners each with immediate shipment. So, there are many orders, and they must be swamped by it.

Threatening isn't going to work because you have no leverage in this battle. They have your money and your device. No legal recourse since they're in China. If you do have leverage, I'd be very interested in knowing what it is in case I wind up in the same hardship. I almost went down the road of ordering through Inno directly, but I ended up going with a US-based vendor and paid via Paypal where I had options if something like this happened. I paid a little bit of a surcharge, but I've had my d9 since Wednesday. Hearing these stories I will never order directly through Inno. They don't seem to have any business integrity whatsoever. Probably the only reason the devices work is because they were designed and built by Halong.

Thanks for your suggestions nastyrunner, obviously I can't afford to give up and have to keep chasing.  I just don't want to get into the position that when I do finally get something in my grubby little paws that it is impossible to make back my purchase price - and I feel the longer the delay, the less likely the ROI.

If you don't mind me asking, which alternate supplier did you choose in the case of the D9 or S11 (or whichever miners concerned) and what kind of a markup did you pay above the initial cost price?

Any suggestions for very little cost that can make the best profit in the short term??

Also, sweeperAA, same question as regards supplier - and any ideas for short-term profit...

Best regards
Paul.

I ended up going through minersdeals.com. You can see what their current price is for "in stock" D9's and I chose to use paypal via CC so I paid a 2.9% fee on top of their price. In this case, it was well worth it to me. There were some inventory problems to begin with and I was a little worried in the middle of the process, but they had great communication with me through the entire time and they came through for me. I had originally wanted to order two D9's, but decided it was too much risk so I only ordered one.
In terms of short term profits, the D9 was kind of an interesting situation. Obviously, Halong released theirs first, but at over $10K. If you take into account that they only released theirs 30 days before Inno did, but Inno shaved off $3K you have a similar net effect of profit with a little less risk based on future orders. I also feel that because the price was so high on these, that reduced the number of people willing to take the risk on an algorithm that isn't in the top 10 for currencies. Between the B29 from Halong and the D9 from Inno, these were the first ASICs for the coin, as opposed to something like Litecoin that's had several generations of ASICs alright. Because of this, the leap in hashing power vs the current difficulty was significant. I don't see this happening very often for established generation ASICS (e.g., Litecoin). I was actually surprised that Bitmain's Z9 isn't more of a leap in hashing power vs the current difficulty. That's why I didn't get that one. I feel that there's a strong possibility that someone is going to release the next/improved Z9 version. Similar to how Bitmain's A3 for Sia came out just before Halong announced the B52.

Thanks, appreciate the info.  I too looked at the new one from Bitmain and decided no real profit in it.  I do however have an X3 has not been shipped yet and the B3 which I am waiting on.

My biggest problem is tied up in the Inno, as I took the last chunk of savings to use on that as an investment.  I need to make those funds back and redeposit into savings as I have not worked since July last year when we got hit by a category 5 hurricane......

I need to return a profit asap, lol!

Best regards
Paul.

This seems obvious I think, but maybe you shouldn't be spending your last remaining savings on a risky investment, especially when you don't have money coming in.

Ya think!!!!

The Decred miner never looked like a risk due to profitability being stable even with the Halong miners already operating - the only drawback was never expected Inno to play fun and games.....

I have other miners which I'm planning to put into a facility that can make money over time, and work options are starting to come in.  I'm not destitute as my wife works and I do what I need to for the side IT jobs.   If ever you need remote support, I can help!

Best regards
Paul.

I am not buying any ASIC from China. Thank you

Kadal, they are ALL currently from China until Obelisk comes out. It's easy to throw popcorn from the stands...

I usually check on AliBaba or so, and ask each and every person advertised there. Most of the vendors there have a good reputation, and you can trust them.

I am in the same boat as yours, I have put in quite a big amount of money in the D9. Need to recover asap. I haven't had that great of luck in Miners because whenever I bought a miner, the price went lower. This one I am hopeful to atleast recover my investment.

I find it interesting that the B29 and B52 on no longer listed on Halong's site. Perhaps Innosilicon is the manufacturer and Halong provided the GUI to help jumpstart their company. It just doesn't makes sense if Halong made these miners, why are they not even listed on their site? Plus Inno has a longer history of manufacturing. Maybe Halong's own miner is their T1 and T2 and that's why a BTC miner isn't available from Inno.

I think it's safe to assume that ALL miners are "lightly" used. Think about it, if you manufactured a miner and could make hand over fist why would you ever sell these machines to others instead of keeping them for yourself and reaping ALL the rewards. I believe most, if not all, companies mine with these machine months in advance before offering them to the general public. The batches we see now are likely pulled off the shelf in their mining farm, cleaned off, and shipped to us. The money they receive from the general public goes back into manufacturing costs for new miners and the cycle repeats.

Which also leads me to believe if this is true, the hash and difficulty will not dimish or be impacted as quickly as some may think. I dunno that it's a 1:1 but may not be as much as flooding the market with totally brand new miners.

All of this is speculation of course. What do you guys think?

Yeah, it sure is. My Innosilicon D9, I checked right now, and the backend is actually DragonMint, and even the model name is B29. The only disappointing factor, i didn't get the dragon tattoo on the miner.

I bought a DC Powered A/C unit on Alibaba - fan came broken and the guy wanted $450 to ship a replacement.  He finally agreed to ship the item to the states and pay half, lol.

Would be interested to see what kind of deal and which ones you mention that are more reliable than most.....

As regards Halong - I think they remove miners that are not in stock now to prevent confusion.  They used to have a waiting list that you could apply for, but I think it was constantly full.  I believe the Decred miners will be relisted when stock is almost available.....

My biggest problem was I bought a few of the S9s and S7s on ebay, just before the price plummeted on Bitcoin, so paid on average a couple of thousand each (S9) and about $900 for the 7s.  I also bought 3 x D3s which kinda were worth nothing LONG before I got a chance to receive them.

I hope the D9 finally gets to me and is profitable enough to at least make back the purchase cost.

I'm in the process of expanding my solar panel layout, hoping to generate enough electricity to occasionally plug one in without running up a huge electricity bill, lol.  My best miners are the A3s which almost make the same as the power they draw, lol

Best regards
Paul.

I want to know that now people who buy products from INNSILICON model D9 and S11.

Has anyone received a product yet?

thx

I’d say read thread but if you are too lazy. Yes, some people have received their miners and others seem to be caught up in phantom shipping.

Received three S11 yesterday and they are all working fine

I don’t think Halong removes miners that are no longer in stock but instead uses an unavailable - join waitlist.

As far as your other miners... damn you made some D3 owner happy unloading them on you. Hopefully you didn’t pay too much. I think you get the best price purchasing from the manufacture and the  best chances of ROI if you’re an early adoptor. Definitely do not buy from eBay or Amazon unless you wanna pay scalped prices. Not sure why you would purchase an S7 when S9 was available. Typically older gen machines are way less efficient than the newer models.

Yep, agree on the D3s (I have 3 of them, lol), but hoping my expansion on solar will allow me to run them at some point soon.

The s7s, well it was also a good call at the time as back in January they stood a chance, and I didn't have access to S9 priced-money.  My problem was that it took forever to get them (living on a small island often sucks - but beautiful scenery and surrounded by beaches!!)

Just after I bought most items, Bitcoin tanked and - well so did any chance of profitability.

I'm now looking at sending miners off to the states for hosting to try to get a little chance of money over time....

I chased my D9 again today - and they promised me that the tracking would be updated later today (That was around midnight).  Tracking now shows some movement and delivery possibly by 6PM on Wednesday, so here's hoping something good may be around the corner.....

Please Decred, don't tank for the next 3 months or so.....!

Congrats Kalyst69 on your S11s - let us know how profitable they are!!

Hope you're all having a great day so far.

Best regards
Paul.

That's great news buddy! I am hoping for the same, atleast for 2 months, because i recover 75% of investment. Remaining 25% can be slowly, it is okay. It shouldn't go below $120 per day though.

Is it possible to put Decred and Siacoin in the same Wallet? Which Wallet do you use?

If it's a mult coin wallet that supports both coins, sure. The standalone wallets are Sia-UI and Decrediton.

My three S11 are mining since 2 days on Nanopool (PPLNS) : 26146 SIA so $668

Of course it's PPLNS and I'm a little bit lucky, but I'm happy with them

https://sia.nanopool.org/account/05f660c3009b07581f791fa58220e6050172bc668b2c5f9eff2efd12803320ab1155161cbba9

https://siastats.info/mining_pools

Nanopool has only hit those 2 blocks in the last week.  Only 9 in the last month.  I'm glad you've had good luck lately and hope it continues for you, but if you change your mind that link above might help you find another pool.

Noticed something odd.  Was checking my Luxor stats page and it appears the hashrate is slowly increasing over the last few days

http://mining.luxor.tech/miners/SC/8110422ebe4927b4e60837c820e455071171554e68b28ec7cc5204f91ce770fa2beebc351fd3

Have any other S11 owners noticed their hashrates increasing like this?

I don't know if this is something to do with the pool itself, or if it has something to do with the latest firmware and the fact the autotune feature never stops running.  I'm going to have to pay close attention to temps to make sure it doesn't cause a problem.

Also, on a different note - batch 2 was supposed to start shipping yesterday so chime in if you're a Batch 2 buyer and if you've received tracking numbers yet - just curious if that will go smoother than batch 1 did for some people.

Well, I am pleased to announce that my D9 actually arrived in Memphis at 11:46PM last night.   

I was continuing to track and was so delighted to see it get closer.

As my luck is awesome, Fedex decided to send it to France - which is 5000 miles away from where it is supposed to be coming - Turks & Caicos.

So add at least one more day of travel to get back to the US and then hopefully gets to me here.  Could life be any more painful, lol!

Will let you all know when I FINALLY get something in my hands!

Best regards
Paul.

You are one lucky guy, your miner will come with French Attitude. Maybe it might come with a nice leather handbag too as a carry case.  ;D

Hello,

My miner D9 only run at 1.28th / s. Only 2/3 cards are active. Did you have this problem? Can you help me?

Thank you

Is there any update news about batch 2 D9?
I have paid on 2 May but still do not receive any reply.

UPDATE:

Received my S11 and it is mining @ 100%

Payment made on April 21 2018

Promised ship date April 28th  <---- not even close

Final delivery was May 08 2018

Total delivery time: 10 days

hi guys. This is worrying. My S11 is hashing at around 3T average but the advertised rate is 3.83T. Support hasn't been very helpful and I'm told to wait for the next firmware update.

Anyone knows why the S11 Sia miner is underperforming? I tried to update my firmware to the latest on their website below but it didn't help. Only brought down the temperature a little.

http://www.innosilicon.com/html/downA4/index.html

I have the same problem, I'm around 8% less than announced.

Thank you, I already thought to go on Siamining but Nanopool's jackpot continues. I'm now at 1000$ since Sunday

Thank you for your feedback. Any problem for technical problem you can send email or add Skype miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn We will try our best to help you asap. Thank you.

IT'S HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Finally after so many days chasing, I took delivery of my D9!!!!!

It's plugged in and it lights up!!!!!

I upgraded the firmware from Inno's site...

And I've connected it to Luxor's pool!!!!!!

Query - the miner says its hashing at around 2.34Th - yet Luxor says 1.8 something - is this normal?????

I'M HAPPY TO FINALLY GET IT !!!!!!!!

Best regards
Paul.

Yea, the pool-rated hashing varies significantly. I started out with luxor and I'm on coinmine now. Pretty similar results, although I prefer coinmine since they have a lot more statistics and you can set your payment values. On coinmine, I vary anywhere from 1.1 Th/s to 3.2 Th/s. Essentially a +/- 50% swing.

buh buh buh whaaaat this thread is amazing i want one of these golden geese

Yups, absolutely normal. I had the same query when I received mine. Just keep an eye out on the average. For me, the average is 1.825TH which is a bit disappointing, but maybe after the firmware upgrade things could get better.

I still can not install the new firmware. I click on update, the .swu file upload up to 100% but the progress upgrade remains at 0%.

Do you have an idea?

Thank you

Hello Any problem for technical problem you can send email or add Skype miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn We will try our best to help you asap. Thank you.

I already discussed with your support. I'm just trying to avoid having to send my D9 back to China. 1 Hashboard does not work and I can not install the new firmware. The unit had to be functional, it was not.

I am very disappointed

Hey PascAle

Sorry to state the obvious, but did you check the connections to each hash board, try a different power supply if you have one in case one of the connectors has a fault, or try swapping them around.  I think there are 7 connectors in total - 2 for each hash board and the one for the controller etc.

It might make a difference??

Best regards
Paul.

Helle, here are the tests I did:

-I change the controller wire with that of a aun Hashboard functional = not work

-I plug the Hasboard into the port or a functional Hashboard was plugged in = not working

-I used another PSU power wire = not working

-I still can not install the new firmware. I click on update, the .swu file upload up to 100% but the progress upgrade remains at 0%.

I'm sorry for my bad English, I'm a French-Canadian ...

Thank you for taking the time to help me

sounds like you could possibly have a bad hashboard.  i had a bad hashboard also, had to send back.  i upgraded firmware with no problems.

Did you have to pay the transport costs?

Still waiting for a reply Inno_ASIC

New firmware for S11 owners, don't know what it brings

S11 owners.... Use this firmware (original) and you will have much better hash rates registered in your mining pools and your units wont be continually trying to optimize.

I am running this firmware on my s11 and it is performing at 4.25 TH/s with better hash rates to the pool.

https://download.halongmining.com/files/b52/b52_20180331_123525.swu

Just a little more evidence that Halong's DCR/SC rigs were made by Inno...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcJZ_mrVQAA0fb9.jpg:large

I just updated my four.  They fixed the continuous autotune bug.  Have not spotted any other differences yet.  My pool-side hashrate has been fine, so I can't say if it will help those complaining about that.

Is there anything for D9/B29? I tried searching but couldn't find anything!

hello all

Last S11 firmware solved my hashrate problems (+8% for me)
Also there are now overclocking settings in the setup menu.

Nice job Innosilicon, very happy with these ASICs

Inno, Is there a firmware update for the D9/B29? The miner's interface consistently reads 2.35 TH/s but is lower on the pools (i.e. 1.9 TH/s). It is greatly appreciated if you could post a link to the latest firmware available.

Please let us know if you're aware of the discrepancy and if there are plans to fix this. Thank you in advance!

I am also interested in a D9 firmware update. More control over fan settings and information on voltage and frequency is also helpful for environmental tuning since the auto-tune feature does not work.

I decided to flip my D9 on eBay. After reading, "The State of Cryptocurrency Mining" by David Vorick, and seeing my other miners have yet to ROI, and probably won't, I'm finding this game to be ridiculous.

Was it profitable to flip?

Yes it was actually. I don't want to give too much information, but I mined for a week, and then sold the miner for more than what I paid.

Anyone know the SSH credentials for these machines?  I've searched both DragonMint and Innosilicon support with no luck. 

Thanks

Interesting read. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, one must assume manufacturers are also running these miners behind the scenes. David's blog kinda of confirms my suspension but make no mistake, Obelisk will be doing the same thing. Why the heck would any manufacturer sell their "money printing" machines if they can keep the profits all to themselves? It's another avenue to generate revenue to build more machines, for their self.

One of the things that caught my attention is David mentions at the time of his writing (5/13) is that Obelisk will be shipping their first miners in about 8 weeks, putting their launch closer to July instead of June as many expected if that's true. The biggest concern for all miners is the market being FLOODED resulting in longer ROI, if ever achieved. We should all be aware that mining calculators are current state and not a good gauge of profitability months or even weeks down the road. Many of us have learned the hard way, myself included.

The D9 is no exception. I've seen the profitability drop from $200/day when I ordered/waiting on batch 1 from Innosilicon to current state of $89/day, granted the market is down everywhere today but it's not the first time I noticed the $80 range. That's assuming all batch 2 orders are online now. Innosilicon is currently onto their 3rd batch so I would presume profitability will take another major hit down to around the $50/day or more when those machines are up and running. Lord help us all when the Obelisk miners get online. I think we'll see it drop to around $20 range around that time.

The only positive is the longer it takes for competition from Obelisk, hell even Innosilicon, to get online the quicker the chances are to ROI. I'm happy that I purchased the D9 batch 1 when I did but have to admit, I'm much more reluctant to purchase this current batch (which I intended to do) and any other batches in the future seeing how quickly Innosilicon releases additional batches diminishing profitability very quickly. It's very much a cat and mouse game and we're at the mercy of the manufacturer.

This major concern would be somewhat alleviated if releases were pushed a bit further apart allowing us to get closer to ROI before the next batch becomes available. I think, let's all hope Innosilicon truly is a different company than Bitmain with respect to caring about their customer base by NOT flooding the market. I've had a great overall buying experience and looking forward to repeating business but at this rate, there's too much risk.

**Inno, please hear this plea. PLEASE slow down on your releases so YOUR customers are not burned by purchasing your miners. Let us get a bit closer to ROI before releasing subsequent batches.**

Innosilicon sent me a defective D9. Several scratch on the box, the stickers of warranty were torn and a hashboard did not work. I contacted the technical support. We had agreed to send the defective hashboard and the replacement one at the same time in order to minimize the shipping time lost. It has now been 3 days since my hashboard is delivered to their factory. I have no news of the replacement hashboard. My D9 only works at 1.4Th / S since receipt, 9 days ago. I am very disappointed with this product. I think Innosilicon's after-sales service policy does not respect the customer.

I agree these companies need to wait 2 months before bombarding the network with more miners. They charged way too much for these miners that now look impossible to make ROI. If new miners would come out every 2 months then it wouldn't be a problem but with Inno and Halong both flooding the market every month it is going to kill any chance of making a profit.

Hello thank you for your feedback. Could you please provide your order ID to me? We can check the info and push the after-sales support to reply you asap. Is that ok for you?

Here is my ID related to my faulty D9: D9INNO2018041947
I want to tell you that I find this situation unacceptable. It's been 10 days since I received a defective product. This will probably prevent me from reaching the ROI. It took me about 2 days to send the defective product from Canada to China with DHL. And this, at my expense. You do not even have 10 minutes to devote myself to organize the return ??

I agree, there needs to be the availability of ROI - especially when investing $7k into one miner.  The delay in shipping mine was infuriating - just like everyone else that was forced to wait longer than promised.

I'm one of the lucky ones that did NOT get a faulty hashboard, but the April firmware is still faulty with the constant autotune (which I am certain reduces performance) as before that activated I was making more than 1 decred a day, and every subsequent day has been less than 1 decred.  The firmware also is locked at the status page at 2.34TH - which it obviously is not producing (as nothing I connect to ever states that high - actually much less) so I'd like to know when you will fix that issue on the D9 Innosilicon???

That being said, I do like it, it hums away quite nicely - I just need 90 days of perfect mining with NO increase in difficulty and NO decrease in profitability to try to get some money back.

On another point, does anyone know the best/easiest route to trade decred back to an extractable $US?

I was looking at the Ticket process for decred to try to increase the value by the voting method, but your need about 92 decred to buy 1 ticket, lol - that's about 100 days at the current rate (Come on Inno - fix autotune!!!!!!)

Best regards
Paul.

I emailed Innosilicon "post purchase support" concerning this and got the following:

Try

root/innot1t2 or root/t1t2t3a5

These are for older miners but if Inno developers are as lazy as their support - it might work :)

Thanks for the info, but these didn't work. I also tried these combinations [root][admin]\[innod9][dragonadmin][t1t2t3a5d9].

Just accept the fact that the network, as measured by profitability and your ROI, is ruined.

It's math, not magic. Within 30 days, the network difficulty is 244% higher. The Network Hashrate is roughly 400% higher.

You can extract those numbers using prediction models to estimate where you're ROI in an additional 30 days, 60 days etc... until it's fully saturated.



People are in love with the "idea" of mining. The problem is that you're playing an inherently unfair game. You're putting 100% of your trust in a Chinese company that's making these machines, running them to rake in massive profits (without any real competition) and then knowingly dumping them on the naive consumer once they've calculated their worth to be below the return they would have by operating them. The D9 miner is probably less than $800 to produce. They sell them at $6800, an 750% markup - because the customer "thinks" they will get their ROI.

You will never get your ROI on a mining machine unless you're in 1 of 2 buckets.

1- You own a manufacturing company who can house, operate and develop your own miners with minimal cost.
2- You have a secret relationship with "underground" miners who are running operations that the general public doesn't know about.

If you made machines that printed money... you'd keep them - unless the money was worthless (and you knew that) or inflation was so high (network difficulty / hashrate) that it would be less profitable to print it than it would to sell them.

I say this as someone who loves mining. I love the technology, the operation, and the principle behind Crypto. However, as a business man and investor who owns several mining rigs with a large investment, I would STRONGLY caution anyone from investing money into any form of mining equipment unless you're totally okay with never seeing that money again.

https://preview.ibb.co/iYk9iy/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/iAbFOy)

That's not strictly true - there are many variables that may allow a small-time miner to ROI. But it is a big gamble so I mostly agree with your overall assessment. Manufacturers are selling you a huge risk and pocketing risk-free money.

So I have one question - how do I contact these secret miners, lol.....

have received my d9 on 9 my its 5105 thash , 17 may have looking 10'000 thash so the d9 make 2thas , its easy first batch at now Innosilicon have sell 2450 d9 on market( 2450 * 2thash its 4900 thash+5100=10'000)  you can be make price at 6300 per D9 ,its 15 435 000 dollars for all and its just the day have received my d9 some people have received before
Nice for innosilicon but now if you waiting little bit for my ass its nice, because its important to make my Roi for next asic you make ,if i don't make my ROI you never touch my ass . thanks for understand .

its easy to understand and you have make a lot of dollars because you have use the d9 before to sell :)

thanks Innosilicon to take time for read my post . One other think if you work same as bitmain my next buying its FPGA for my first time make in your ass ,for you, for bitmain and all company in this play to fuck the customer

sorry for my english i write better in french

Looks like the efficiency numbers for these miners is better than the Obelisk numbers.  Gonna hurt a lot of people who preordered those miners.  Are the shipping issues still happening or has Inno finally caught up?

I ordered both. Obelisk was cheap enough (0.14 BTC IIRC) so that I don't have to worry about it too much.

Inno still sucks tremendously. Bitcoin payments take days to confirm. Doesn't make any sense.

I just noticed Inno is releasing a 3rd batch this week.... I see that they like to fuck their customers by flooding the market so no one makes any money. The 3rd batch they want $6800 that doesn't include shipping or power supply.... When Halongs 2nd batch and Inno's 3rd batch come online next week expect all miners to make $30-$40 a day. These retards should wait a month before releasing more miners otherwise no one will be able to recoup their initial investment. For how much they are charging now with the difficulty increase it would make more sense to just buy the coins and start putting them into POS.

Small price cut at 6300 and 3200 , but if you pay in crypto its ~6700- 3400. Not enough of a discount,  one benefit is new buyers will hold off as price is still too high , less buyers = less hash rate. ROI very iffy on these. Very few seem to have pool hash rates that match the miner interface hashrates. Obelisks just around the corner and other manufacturers trying to release their 16nm decreds soon, then halong batch due end of this month now another inno batch.Its not looking good.

I certainly would want inno and halong to stop producing units, but they're in it to make money, just like all of us are. So if they can keep selling them, I'm not sure we should really fault them for it. Every person mining should know that the higher probability of making a profit is to buy the coin instead of mine it. But personally, I enjoy doing some of both. My biggest hope is that Inno and Halong don't reduce the price of these miners so that everyone can get one for $1000.

dang!
I'm not good with gamble so I gonna stick with bitmain!
At least they manage their bills well

What kinda PSU do you use With the D9? Can I use a 1200w Bitmain psu?

Yep

I would like to warn all of you out there regarding the S11 miner. I bought a batch recently and half of them could only get about 3.2T Hashrate even when overclocked. Advertised is 3.83T at factory settings.

I asked support and they said it's the mining pool problem, there's nothing wrong with their miners. I have tried all the mining pools out there and all of them were reporting only 3.2T.

I have upgraded to the latest 11 May firmware and the issue remains. They want me to ship back the miners at my own cost to be replaced but I won't be doing that. The loss in income and shipping fees will not be worth it. So beware if you want to purchase anything from Innosilicon again. The support sucks to the core.

I can provide evidence but the conversations are in Chinese. Anyone who wants evidence of the conversation can PM me.

On miner status at bottom of page what is the hashrate of each of the 3 boards?

All the hashrates on the miners itself is fine. its shown as 4.2T total and each board is doing 1.4T.

The problem is that all the pools siamining, luxor, f2pool are  rejecting 20-25% of the hashrates. So Inno support is saying there is nothing they can do and the mining pools have a problem. That's bullshit to me.

Well.....


https://ibelink.co/product/ibelink-dsm6t-blake256-miner-with-6-th-s-hash-rate/

Attention S11 miners:  The Luxor pool has just switched from PPLNS to PPS. Fee is 2%.  That makes it the lowest-cost PPS pool for Sia available, and PPS now gives you payout consistency without need for ramp-up.

Also, if you've had issues with your pool-side hashrate not being what you expect, give Luxor a try.  I've had perfect rates at Luxor using the newest firmware.  There are lots of variables that can affect your hashrates - internet connection latency, etc, but I've found in the past with other mining hardware that my hashrate poolside can vary greatly between pools, so it's best to try several to find a good fit for you.

I'm no expert but I'll at least try to suggest a few things.  My apologies if you've already tried some or all of these.

Make sure you're configured to use a stratum connection in the URL for the pool you're connecting to.  Older TCP setups are not as efficient as stratum.

I assume you're hard-wired and not trying to do a wireless (or cellular) connection between miners and internet - if not, try hard-wire.

You can also quickly eliminate your network hardware and ISP by trying a miner at some other location - friend/relatives house for a couple hours and see if things are different.

If you have a puma-chipset cablemodem, replace it.  There was a thread somewhere here I thought that talked about the latency issues causing trouble with some ASICS.  https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/09/intel_puma_modem_woes/

Temporarily remove whatever networking hardware you have in between your ASIC and the router, to eliminate any issues they might cause.

Most pools have more than one farm you can connect to (east coast, west coast, europe, etc).  Most people would assume the closest geographical site is the best, but that's not always the case depending on the peering agreements your ISP has - try a different one to see if you have different results.

I know you mentioned siamining, luxor, and f2pool.  Might be worth trying Nicehash to see if you get the same rejection rate.  I feel NiceHash doesn't pay as well, but if you get better hashrate there it might offset what you'd be losing.

NiceHash also has a tutorial on their website for setting up a stratum proxy on your PC.  I tinkered with that back when I had Innosilicon A4 Scrypt miners.  I don't know if it will work with Sia, but might be worth tinkering with.

I hope the best for you, I know it can be painful to spend this kind of money on hardware and not get the full value from it.

which USA company ?

It's right there in the post you quoted: https://obelisk.tech/

Dear D9 customer,

As the difficulty of coin digging grows, to better serve the customers and bring more profits,  Innosilicon optimizes the firmware of the D9 miner. After upgrading the firmware, the D9 calculating force can reach 2.4TH/s.

The specific updates are as follows:
http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/download/D9_20180524_071211.swu

I just upgraded my firmware on both my miners and now I'm getting some really crazy hash rates. I'm getting anywhere between 1TH/s to 7TH/s  :o is this normal?

I also updated the firmware, here are the comparisons for me:

Old Firmware: 2.05 Th/S pool hash rate, (2.36 from GUI) @ 830W, Average 75C with fan speed at 75%
New Firmware: 2.35 Th/S pool hash rate, (2.4 from GUI) @ 950W, Average 71C with fan speed at 55%

Obviously, I've only been running with the new firmware for a couple hours, but so far, it seems better. I have not done the auto-calibration.

Edit: Added hash rate reported sources.

ok thanks

Are you seeing crazy hashrates directly from the miners like I am? They are wildly swinging up and down now.
https://image.ibb.co/k7VXWT/mining.jpg

i ordered one from china and guess what it burned within one month and i did not get and refund!

What does your pool show?

What mode are you running on? Performance, Factory, or Balanced?

I have not seen a large swing in the GUI-reported hash rates.

My pool shows 5.15TH/s and it is slowly going up.
https://image.ibb.co/i9xqJ8/miner2.jpg

I think the picture is from Awesome Miner GUI, which is showing wild swings. Although it shows average also.

It is from awesome miner but when I logged into the miners I saw the exact readings I was getting in awesome miner. Refresh your miner status page fast when you log in to see if you see what I'm seeing.
EDIT: It looks like when logged into the miner they only show average hashrates so when you first log into the miner after booting it you will see the high hashrates but as it averages out you will only see the average hashrate.

Yes, this average seems correct at Awesome Miner also.

Don't worry about short term swings. Poolside hashrate is what matters and even that can have lots of variance if pool diff is high. Check after you've submitted 1000+ shares to the pool.

Thanks for sharing your findings sweeper! Where did you get your wattage readings from? Trying to determine how accurate they are. TIA

I have one of these: https://www.bsaelectronics.com/collections/dryer-buddys

Thank you for your feedback. Any problem for technical problem you can send email or add Skype miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn We will try our best to help you asap. Thank you.

I flashed my D9 today with the new firmware and one hash board seems to have stopped working. And I cannot flash back to the old firmware either. Please help

ouch! thats suck :o :o

Unplug power then try booting again. If board does not still work Press reset on front of machine until red light or beep sounds

Tried all that and NO luck.

Any problem for technical problem you can send email or add Skype miner_support@innosilicon.com.cn We will try our best to help you asap. Thank you.

thanks for your update , my D9 working fine

Innosilicon 3.83T S11 Batch 4 is coming~ Best Power Efficientcy for Siacoin!

$2800 & Buy 4 Get 5! Buy now from http://www.innosilicon.com/html/s11-miner/index.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeClOoKUQAA7DMR.jpg

Innosilicon,

Is it possible for future update for D9 to have manual setting for fan speed?? I would Like it run a little higher.
Thanks for an awesome machine!

I would also like this option for manual fan speed adjustment.

Innosilicon, please, stop your dirty game!
S11 lost 70% of the profits already! Achieving ROI is not possible! I just got my asic, and the payback period has grown already 3 times!

For D9 owners who have not yet upgraded their firmware - consider this first.

The updated firmware does have a few bugfixes (auto tuning, rebranding, etc).

Notably your D9 will float between 2.35 and 2.55 Ghs - but understand that this increase in performance is essentially due to overclocking, and as such - Your power consumption will go from the advertised 900 watts to 1000+ watts. This will generate 3-8 degrees (c) of additional heat that you will want to compensate for. If you're already running them in a warm environment, you could now be teetering on the operational shutoff temperature.

Just consider it before you update.

 

True, but on the plus side I am approaching 2.4 TH/s average reported by the pool, over 20 odd hrs run time.

Innosilicon please release a new firmware for s11 to increase hashrate like the latest d9 firmware.

I thought they already did which raised the hash rate from 3.8 to 4.2.

Is this on Performance Mode or Factory Mode?

I got this hashrate before updating the firmware too. But now I have heavily fluctuating hashrates with higher power consume, more heat with shorten the lifetime of the hashboard.

THIS IS A BAD FIRMWARE UPDATE. HOW CAN I ROLL-BACK THIS ONE:  >:(

Maybe the reset button reverts back to original firmware

Maybe???  ???

It should, it resets it to factory original settings, the new firmware is awesome, just tune it to performance. This miner will be obsolete before the chips start to fail, unless your mining room is ridiculously consistently hot. Anything below 80 is fine.

What the hell... I reset to factory setting and cant login anymore.

admin / dragonadmin wont work. NEED HELP!!!!

LOL... now its admin /admin

And a reset didnt use a default firmware. Bad hint!!!

Hello have download the first firmware if you want

https://www.justbeamit.com/sgb2v

Is anyone used this machine? is it really making up to 100$ a day?

Thanks,
Lucas

You cant install an older firmware...

ok i think your reset the d9 and after you can install , but i don't now if its work . for me its better with new firmware .

No. Did not work

Are u sure u held down the reset button long enough to hear a few beeps and see the red light,

Do you have a D9 and try this? Unfortunately there is no beep...

The firmware doesnt seem to be downgradable.

Thank you for your good advice. We have reported it to our engineer. Thank you~

What about now ?? Look, i am very dissatisfied with the company policy, i just bought the miner and you just lowered the price in half. And you just said that you will not do this. I will not buy again, ever. Or recomend your miners.

DO NOT trust Chinese company, they only care about money.

They promised to ship on time 7/5- 10/5. WTF ??? At last, I pick up the miner in Hong Kong 18/5. On Time ??? ??? ???
Even I pick up the miner in HK, I am very satisfied. I feel sorry for those get it overseas.

They are currently offering 6300 buy one free one now.
It means 3150 get one, However, I got the batch 2 miner at price $ 6800, and is just getting $50USD/day without counting other fees. Discount:(6800-3150)= 3650 and 3650/50 =73days
I need to mine 73 days to get 3650 back, but I simply do nothing and buy the miner later is much better?
The company punishes the early buyer ??? ??? WTF???

Moreover, I received their fucking kidding email:
Thank you for your interest and support for Innosilicon all the time! To reward our loyal customers, we provide two promotions to customers.

Firstly, all customers can enjoy the “buy one D9 and get extra one D9 free” promotion on our website, means that you pay 6300USD for one D9 miner and we will kindly provide two D9 miners for you.

Secondly, to those loyal customers who bought our D9 miners before, we send extra coupon and for your order before, we credit you 5 pcs of 400USD coupon.

They punish the early buyer and tell us this is to reward our loyal customers. How ridiculous is it? ??? ???

SO PLEASE DO NOT BUY ANY PRODUCT FROM Innosilicon !!!
They can offer like 6300 for 10miner later on. so we can never get our money back.√
 You can still buy it , if you think it is profitable  ;D ;D

Has anyone else received this offer of coupons from Innosilicon or one of their resellers from previous d9 batch purchase s?

Yes.  $1500 off and buy one get one free.

Was that off innosilicon or a reseller?

Yes, they punishes the early buyer. I waiting for a american company or another one that i can trust. Innosilicon never again !!! The coupon had to be at least 3k usd, 400 usd is a joke.

You said 5 pieces of 400$ coupons? Is it like bitmain where only 1 coupon can be used per miner? This situation exists cause ibelink brought out a much more powerful miner for the same price.