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From June 14, to July 7, a new edition of Copa America will kick-off in Brazil.


Note; In order keep the registration process hassle-free, the deadline participating is Thursday, June 14, 22:59:59 (CET timezone)

Brazil big favourites imo but we will see, there are always surprises in this tournament after a long season.

This tournament is not an easy one for any favoured team, yes Brazil is the one that seem so but upset is so rampant here. I can't put my bet on any yet. Chile as the defending champions won't be an easy ride.

If Argentina and Brazil really involved in this tournament with young players then we won't see regular players such as Messi playing however these two teams always be the favourite although lately the champion of this tournament belongs to usual teams such as Chille

This is biggest event of summer, so I'm probably going to watch Copa America. But probably match times will be not very convenient for us in Europe to watch :/
Brazil and Argentina are favorites as always, but in few recent cups none of these teams weren't able to win. Offcourse, there are more teams which have good chances to win - Colombia, Uruguay. I'm going support Uruguay.
It will be a bit strange to watch Japan and Qatar fighting for Copa America trophy. Qatar surprisingly won Asian Cup, but it will be interesting how they will perform against teams like Argentina and Colombia.
Have you at least looked at squads. Both teams will play with all their biggest stars.

This might be Messi's last shot of winning a trophy for his national side at senior level, I'll be supporting Argentina all through the tournament solely because of Messi, I really do hope he can finally break the jinx that comes with playing with Argentina. And after such a stellar and decorated career so far, a trophy with the national team is the least of what Messi deserves.

It's the fifth time Brazil is hosting the Copa America and on all the previous four occasions, guess who was the winner? Brazil
Brazil has an impressive 100% win record for Copa America when hosted on their own soil. Though every records are breakable, Brazil would be the favourite to start with.

I have the same opinion and I'm all in on Argentina for winning the Copa America 2019. After another disaster suffered in Champions League, Messi should be eager to get this trophy especially after what happened last time Argentina reached the final with Messi missing a penalty that could have potentially be the winning goal. Again, we have to keep in mind that Messi is not the whole time and he can't do everything alone so I hope his teammates will work as hard as him to lead Argentina into the final again.

Good to see the topic. After the EPL and the only match left for CL, I was thinking my days will be going boring. Now, I can not wait to see the tournament to start.

I am going with Brasil. 🙂

Anyone considering a pool?

I'm definitely in,  If there's anyone willing to create one.

The only problem would be getting about enough participants, not too many people seem to be interested in the Copa America.

Do you think Argentina, with an inexperienced manager (this is actually his first job as a football manager...crazy), and a bunch of newcomers in the squad, are actually favorites? Honestly, I'll be surprise if they make it to the knockout stages, their recent performances have been awful, with and without Messi.

There's hype surrounding the Champions league and europa league finals...After that, people will focus on the next big tournament, which will be the UEFA Nations League finals, and then a week later, the Copa America. We should wait after the Nations League is over to see if there's enough people to create a pool  :)

This is true, messi has not got his hand on such even world cup for the Argentine side. He has been doing his best to lift them during his time but none yet.

Me too will be in.

By the way, if there are enough votes say may be minimum 10 then we can do it in superbru. We can decide an entry fee for the pool and find an escrow as well. Lets see the interest then?

Please comment with the expected entry fee and escrow you will like.

Will messi play in argentina? İf yes, my big favourite country is argentina. Messi is the best in my opinion.

Yes Messi is playing. Here (https://www.google.com/search?q=copa+america+2019+argentina+team&rlz=1C1CHBD_enBD838BD838&oq=copa+america+2019+ar&aqs=chrome.0.0l3j69i57j0l2.7763j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=t;/m/02bh_v;2;/m/01l5y1;pl;fp;1;;)

It's kind of strange that Messi can not perform well (fails to fill up expectation) with his national team but he is a dangerous player in his club.

you are very right about it. but I believe that the messi will show superior performance.

Mine all time favorite teams for Copa America are Brazil and Argentina. This will be a biggest event for this year.

I would suggest OP to include the Copa America Matches schedules too so no one misses to watch his favorite team match.

With Copa being in Brazil it is only likely that Brazil will be heavy favorites to win the Cup.
2019 AFC Asian Cup I won some nice money on Japan so if they are in good form I will be backing them during this Copa.

If viewed statistics for Brasil Argentina and Chile they have the potential to become Winner, but I hope that in this competition there will be a team is unseeded be able to provide better resistance so that the competition becomes more interesting.

Yes it's interesting if there is a pool created for this tournament, maybe someone who is habitual to managing a pool is willing for this tournament. The Copa America is a tournament that is not easy to predict with an underdog team that might surprise and I think this will be an interesting a pool and I'm ready to wait.

In case you missed this,

Sorry about that, I missed it.

Btw, I agree about Superbru as we did for EPL and CL, I will wait for more information about fees and also escrow and be ready to participate, this also adds votes to participants. Cheers!

So we have:
hahay
Me
Harkorede
logfiles
LTU_btc


Please feel free to show interest.

PS: I hope OP do not mind this activities. In that case we can create a new topic.

Copa America is a very much awaited competition. And basically Copa America is still a lot of great players who are waiting for their appearance. And group B and C are certainly groups that are very difficult to predict who will qualify.

Feels quite strange for me that Japan and Qatar are in this competition.
Why have they been considered for another continent's competition?
Has this been the tradition before?
What happens if Japan or Qatar win, will they be called the champions of South America?  ;D

Can't miss watching it though I am not yet sure who will win it  ;)

I am also Open for this, there is a 50-50 chance that i could also join if there was any and in that period i don't get so busy running some errands here and fail to follow up the tournament.

I doubt Messi will be missing. Any of the team can lead the trophy. They both are favorite like always. Uruguay and Chile must be counted too. I always have seen those two teams play huge in Copa America.

Honestly, I didn't even knew who is manager of Argentina before I saw your post. And it's strange that they appointed this guy without any experience. Still, despite their awful recent performance I think that they favorites together with Brazil on the paper. Bookmakers also have similar opinion - odds for Brazil win is 2.3 and 5.5 Argentina.
Why not ;). Another chance to lose some money lol. I doubt that we can get many players to this pool, but if there will be at least 10 people interested, maybe it's worth to try to make it. We can use Superbru, I saw that Copa America predictions will be available on their website. Entry fee probably should be something like $10 or $20.

Of course, I'm in!

I like the nature of the competition and it is not going to be almost a year long competition like the UCL and EPL so it should be an interesting one.


Another chance to lose so money ? Lol! Don't be pessimistic ;D

$20 seem fair, or we could leave it at a fixed amount of btc 0.002, perhaps.

That would be fair. We are in bitcointalk forum, we must have measured anything with bitcoin although people don't care much about it.

Chances for Brazil and Argentina to be the winner is low. I would say Uruguay will be the winner.

Apart from the performance of Messi, being included in the team the Argentina will have physiological benefit that a best player is playing in their team. This can really boost the confidence of the team and it will surely make Argentina to be favorites for this year Copa América.

What was the benefit of "physiological benefit" over the past decent. Nothing. Yes, Messi is one of the best players but that is not going to bring any extra benefit unless the team is oerforming together.

Argentina has always been one of the favourites team together with Brazil to win this competition.Other teams have been a surprise when they have won it like Chile for example.What is good about this competition is that we rarely will see a 0-0 game and that means this competition produces good football to watch.

Messi is back for Argentina and his mere presence means they start as favourites to win the cup, also the squad selection of Argentina has been converted into a meme which is hilarious. Brazil has many talented players including the world’s most expensive player Neymar, hence it’s no surprise that they too are the favourites. What I would love to see is these two teams battling for the cup in the finals, it’ll be the perfect ending for this competition.

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Thanks for the thread. I generally really really dislike the off season for club football in Europe, and I got to say the format for copa keeps getting weirder, but for as long as we can find entertainment in Latin American football, I'm all game.

Haven't got my hooks into any of the teams properly yet but oh Mexico look like a fiery option. Suarez is probably going to still star and so will GOAT you know who, but I'm really feeling good about some of the upstarts like Chile as swogerino says. Anyone know where they have good outrights yet?

The news that Messi playing this Copa America is being taken positively by everyone including the Argentina team. Going into the match with positive sentiments and pressuring other teams with the star player are few things which are being done to have physiological advantage. However i do agree that Messi has to perform well on the ground as well for Argentina to win the title.

Argentina won Copa America last at 1993 while Brazil at 2007. Chile was the champion on the last two season. Uruguay is the most winner of this trophy. Argentina and Brazil are all time favorite but their recent performance is way bad than others. Others team are not surprised because it's almost a common fact in Copa America for the last decent.

I have added you too.

And LTU_btc

It's a reasonable amount I have no problem

Even better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146493.msg51201707#msg51201707

Please let me know if I missed anyone. We need more people. Come on guys! 🙂

There may also be many who predict that Argentina and Brazil are the favorites. But that is only a prediction of many people. For me, maybe Brazil and Chile might be the champion for Copa America. Actually it is very difficult to predict who will win in this competition because other teams are also impossible to play without the championship aim. So we will enjoy every match.

I would say Uruguay and Brazil have the chance alomg with Argentina. Argentina is already off form but Copa is something where small team becomes a big team even. So, I think Argentina can be a strong team even.

Urugay might also be considered a champion favorite too. Argentina has always been a runner up in every competition  :D Maybe in this competition Argentina remains the favorite runner up like before. Argentine players are good, but if you look at the back line they are really worrying.

I can edit the thread title (adding "Prediction Pool") and the OP to show the info for the pool like: entry fee, number of participants, prizes, website you'll be using, escrow + address, etc...But you're free to create own thread if you want  :)

If you can go ahead with what you've stated above then It will be better to leave the discussion here, so far the competition will be hosted off the forum and the discussion that would have been on any other pool thread would be about the competition itself.

I already made inquiry with a trusted escrow, but It's fine if anyone else can get one as soon as possible to create enough time to get as many participants as possible.

I left you a PM.
So far we have the following users who are interested however we still need to work with the entry fees. Like another user I will also vote for 0.002BTC however I would not mind if you guys want higher or lower than this.


I will also would not mind to continue our discussion here. OP just needs to update the original post with the information we will have if we decide that we are going with the pool.

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Added post reference in the OP.

C'mon guys, join now and have the chance of winning some BTC!  ;D

Thanks @Harkorede and @tomahawk9
Fantastic job. I have already sent my entry fees

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I would ask the participants not too use the regular fees your wallet shows in default. If you see my tx then you will see I only used 1 sat/B. We are not in hurry here so use law tx fees. You can save some dust and you know every satoshi counts.

Good luck to everyone. Let's make it a successful pool. JOIN TODAY!

I had transaction completed with 3 satoshi per byte within 10 hours. That's super fast. 1 satoshi per byte may take some time but since you guys aren't in hurry, use 1 satoshi. May be it will take 24 hours maximum.

Can confirm that I am escrowing the prize pool.


1 sat/byte would have gone through three times in the past 24 hours (https://i.imgur.com/4Fbk0EZ.png) (red boxes).

Another day, another competition, and one of my favourites. I've decided to register my interest here, but I'll only make the payment some time next week if that's okay. Gonna wait til mempool's down below 10k for a bit. Good to see some of you guys from the other pools!

Just found out last night too that Japan and Qatar are invited to play, it does feel a little weird to be honest, but these were the finalists of the last AFC, which was a really profitable tournament for me, so I'll take my chances and back Qatar to win this one too, even though they open with Argentina!

Apparently, this isn't even the first time Japan was invited either, but it's a first for a Middle East team.


I'll join the pool after paying.

Added post reference in the OP.

You mean, to win the trophy?  :o You like to swing for the fences, don't you?  :D  Qatar won't face same team quality they had in the AFC, if they want to win the whole thing, they're gonna have to play against world-class players...I honestly doubt they'll go past the group stages.

In AFC, Qatar faced low team than Copa America, there has team like Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile. I don't get how you even think Qatar to lift this trophy. I giess they will be out from the 1st round.

Free bump + notifications for me so that i don't forget about this thread. Count me in, since summer without football pool will be kind of boring. Don't know much about South American teams but the amount isn't much so it will be for fun probably. I'll officially join as soon as I get my reword for Champions League pool, since all my other BTC is tied up (alts, exchanges, cold storage).

@tomahawk, yup I really like to swing for the fences. Qatar started the AFC as a huge underdog and dark horse, they trained behind closed doors and no one knew who their players were even. They probably won't even get far but hey, the game is full of mysteries these days;)

@RapTarX: You're probably right and I have no disrespect at all for Latin American teams, but I as well think they have fallen far from the days when they were super strong in the 90s and noughties.

Qatar didn't exactly play "low teams" as you call them. Beating Japan and South Korea en route to cup was no mean feat, and they had a 100% win record too. If they win against Paraguay and lose against Argentina, there's a good chance they progress, and they won't meet Argentina in the QF if so;)

Yeah, Qatar performance was huge surprise in AFC. Until this tournament they didn't had any big achievements and never played in World Cup. I'm wondering how they managed to improve in very short period of time. Especially considering that they don't have stars in their squad and almost all their players playing in Qatar league. I don't have big expectations from them in Copa America, but it will be interesting to watch them.

@buwaytress nothing is impossible these days as many times underdogs are causing big upsets, and hence I am thinking of placing a small bet on Qatar to progress ahead and cause upsets. While Argentina is my second favourite team to win this cup, but at times they have shown they’re vulnerable and can be defeated hence there’s always a possibility of upset being caused. Also I feel I’ll get pretty high odds on Qatar, and that’s one more reason for me to place bets on them.

Hey guys, I've sent my payment. I am aware it isn't confirmed and will probably remain unconfirmed for a couple of days at least, but since the tourney's about 2 weeks away, I thought it could be a fun experiment to see how long a 1 sat/byte transaction confirms even with mempool at 22k as of this post.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/cf96e44482eae71c9866bd660d5e73f05d7b0dd81e2c311544b9cdc15f0ace8b (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/cf96e44482eae71c9866bd660d5e73f05d7b0dd81e2c311544b9cdc15f0ace8b)

It's RBF so I'll bump the fees up if we get worried, don't worry ;)

@LTU, Juggy: Yeah, been a great season for me so far, very low ratio of bets won to lost, but good profit margin!

Good to see you on board brother. We need more participants. Come on guys, join us and let's have some fun as we chase some BTC to win. Join today!

About the 1 sat/B, this will be confirmed anytime and you will see it will be earlier than you though 🙂

I would suggest everyone to use 1 or 2 sat/B tx fees since there are not hurry for us to get the tx confirmed.

The tx should get confirmed within a day or two. Remember to post the following info whenever you can so I can add a post for reference in the OP:

So far we have only three participants. Come on guys! Join the party!

By the way tomahawk9, I think you need to updated the OP with buwaytress's info


Thanks

Here it is my tx id and I am another participant , come on this pools are freaking fun and the cost is ridiculous , just 0.002 btc which anyone can afford, it is just my weekly income from my home hobby miner project.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d7d063ed2446525128e6305fcff8cd042c0ce1d8aaa3eee67e81a5f998c208fc

Will register right away at Superbru.

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       Superbru username: BitcoinSupremo
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I would like to welcome you on behalf of the team. Good to have you here. 🙂

Update for OP:

Thanks, Pamoldar. Added both to the OP.

For anyone interested in joining the pool, remember to post the required info using the format in the OP to confirm your status...Just a formality (:

Whoops sorry guys. I'm usually much better at reading instructions than this! Might be tough to get more people in the pool but I'll remember to mention it in some of the other threads! Maybe Copa is a distraction but it is a short one along with Nations league... People need their football fix, don't they?


By the way the password "anewfeud" doesn't work? Doesn't let me enter the group. Could you send me an invite instead?

Make sure to mention this topic in other threads. I would never found my way here if the link wasn't posted in one of our pools (CL or PL one, don't remember). I will join the pool for sure, but probably next week. I have also managed to recruit one more player and probably two (both fellow countrymen, too bad Croatia isn't playing).

The code "ANEWFEUD" works just fine, I don't know what's happened in your case. But an invitation has been sent to you 😄

Welcome aboard; and Good luck!

Sorry to be a bummer, but it simply isn't working. Tried clearing cookies, relogging in and even from my mobile. ThenI also tried clicking on your invite from email, copy pasted the PW and nope. I've joined pools already obviously so my account should be fine.

https://i.imgur.com/xyHlckM.png?1

On the bright side, the congestion's really eased off on the Bitcoin network. My tx is still unconfirmed but only 3k++ transactions away. Got to love these periods of down time.

I've downloaded the Superbru app, signed up and joined the Copa America 2019 Bitcoin pool
I will send the Entry Fee 0.002BTC by next week

I still don't know what's wrong here, really.

I just saw Big daddy's application, that means it's probably something with your account, I guess.
Did you get the invitation I sent ?


Thanks for showing interest,

I'll accept the application once your transaction is being broadcasted to pool address.

Been really busy in RL lately, haven’t read much of the gambling section. Only just back from the Madrid Champions League Final.

I will join if we get 5 or 6 more participants. If there’s around 10 I will pay & join.

I'd guess so too, considering the plans you had for the final, hope you enjoyed your trip, and of course congratulations to you! A well deserved compensation for the disappointment you might have had after traveling all the way to Kiev last year.


I think we'll hit double digits with the number of participants.

So, even when at 33k in mempool (which actually even went over 40k a few hours later), my 1 sat/byte transaction confirmed 4 hours ago, almost exactly 56 hours after broadcasting. Tell you what, that's value for a non-urgent transaction;) and confirms me as the 5th participant right?


Oh and, the invite actually works this time. I went in, fiddled around, and accepted the invitation from the Superbru app itself. No password even needed!

Good to see you here brother. Just join LOL

In three days it got confirmed. I think I told you that you will be surprised to see how fast it gets confirmed.


Anyway, guys please join the pool. Let's have some fun together. 0.002 BTC should not be a huge amount (I hope) 🙂

The 27-year-old PSG forward suffered an ankle injury in the friendly win over Qatar and was taken off.
https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/52/8a/neymar-brazil-2019_1rj1j0869efga1doavbhw8jwla.jpg

This means Neymar will miss the upcoming Copa America campaign due to a ligament rupture in his right ankle which will be a huge blow for Brazil which is also the host nation.
The Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) confirmed the news after Neymar left Wednesday's 2-0 friendly win over Qatar in tears
Source: https://www.goal.com/en/news/neymar-to-miss-copa-america-after-suffering-ankle-injury/13vn8m73gt84z1ronxv1uqdkw0

I wish him a fast recovery from this injury, what are your thoughts, who will replace him in the Copa?

 :D :D :D For me, this news makes me happy. But games without neymar are certainly not interesting. Because when Brazil will play, of course, no one will do diving in a comparison. Because I really like if Neymar plays and does diving.

I don't like his faked fouls either, but, showing happiness after someones injury is not so pretty....

I will never be happy to see a player get injured even if it is a player from my sworn enemy's teams, I feel really bad for Neymar he's barely just got back from an injury layoff, being sidelined is going to take a toll on his performance. Initially I was hoping the Copa America will help prepare well ahead of next season after going through what was probably the worst season of his entire career with several injuries.

It's a huge blow for Brazil, but I'm sure they have luxury of players to call on as replacement.

Yeah, I'm never happy when a player's injured. We who have ever played football or any kind of sport would never wish injury even on our worst enemy. You want to win, and you want to win fair and square. Brazil are still favs, no worries. I don't think they'll ever let Bobby lead the line for Brazil but they have plenty of other options anyway.

Qatar couldn't score, and I took a 22/1 bet on them heh. That's okay. I still rate them highly.

Still can't find good outrights. Anyone?

Oh fuck it, go on then.


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I am never happy when player gets injured. It always means more when you (or you team) beats the opposition with strongest possible line op. I never felt satisfied if victory was gifted to me, either by injury (tennis) or referee (few times in soccer). There is no better feeling than winning against the odds  ;D

That being said, Neymar sort of plays in a way that he provokes a lot of tough tackles from opposition. Add to that the fact that he is always diving and trying to make opposition look stupid with often unnecessary dribbles and you get frustrated defenders playing against you almost every match. If he played Premier League 10 years ago his career would already be over as a consequence of few broken legs.

Neymar is so unlucky! Injured in the 2014 WC and missed the game vs Germany (and we all know how that ended). Missed the Copa America 2016 because Barcelona were being assholes. last year, he got injured months before WC, then made it to the WC but wasn't 100% fit. Now he misses the Copa America this year...Crazy.

Added post in the OP. You rooting for a team in particular?

🤪

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Come on guys, we are 5 so far. Let's make it 10 first and then roll for 20 if possible.

Join today! It's only 0.002BTC

So, Neymar is gonna missing out the tournament?

I think getting 20 pariticpants will be a long shot, However hitting double digits is more likely as we have @Big_Daddy and @Trofo both planing to join next week.

Unfortunately, Yes he is out of the tournament, I'm not sure if that was supposed to reduce their chances as the heavy favorites, but according to a sportbook they're still offered at 2.28 to lift the trophy.

Damn! without him Brasil team will straggle.

Ok so we have 7 confirmed participates then. Need only 3 more for the double figure and then may be 15 or 20 if possible.

Come on everyone. Only 0.002 BTC seriously.

So, the injury is confirmed than. Too bad, was looking forward to see him play.

Where do you guys read your Copa news? Here in Croatia nobody writes about tournament and I really need some good articles to get the Copa vibe going.

I mostly follow the news on Goal.com and https://www.skysports.com/internationals

There is not much dedicated blog or website for news about the tournament as of now, probably due to the much attention paid to the Europe Nations league, but I'm sure there will be a lot when the tournament gets underway.

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Thanks for those links, I checked them out a bit. They are OK but not exactly what I was looking for. I have a feeling that this years Copa America is flying under the radar. Maybe I am wrong but it seems to me that previous editions had much bigger media coverage. I didn't even know it's being played this summer until I found this pool and I am following football news on daily basis.

I am not dislike of Neymar, I am happy with his brilliant play in every match. What I don't like is when the brilliant game is always diving when the enemy grabs the ball. With Neymar injury, Brazil still has many players who can replace Neymar position. So Brazil doesn't have to be discouraged if the star game is injured.

Guys, I'm going to send BTC later today or tomorrow. ;)
Yeah, there isn't enough media coverage about Copa America here in Europe. But I'm sure that when tournament will begin, we will see more news about it. In previous tournaments I remember that even local news media in my country gave enough attention to Copa America.

Added post in the OP. Good luck!

Current Prize pool is 0.012BTC :o 8)

Only one week left before registration closes.

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Quoting for reference and good to see new members are joining. Let it coming MORE!



Update for OP

@tomahawk - I think I clicked Brazil as my team. We (Liverpool) have a couple of players in the international squad so I will support them :)



Be good if we could get 10-15 players in the competition, make it really competitive.

Great number
I’m sure that we can count on at least five more players in this pool
Good luck to all  :)

Nice to see you here LFC, Trofo, and of course others! Copa's really fun actually, very different styles of games. Unfortunately not very well covered, my provider here isn't showing much of non European football unless you pay out of the ears for it.

As LFC says I'm going to root for our boys in yellow, past and present (that's you too Coutinho you ex lil wizard) but Bobby rarely plays more than a sub role though Fabinho should see a lot more time given he's much more fit than when at Monaco. I'll even hope Suarez has a good tourney.

I'm betting on Qatar as soon as I find good odds... but they flopped against Brazil in a friendly 2 days ago. You never know though.

I'm ignoring them (just like I ignore Japan)
I really don't wanna know why are they playing  Copa America
My opinion is that this competitions has to be played by nations from the continent named in the tournament

That is because South America only has 10 countries/teams which makes for very odd tournament format. That is why they traditionally invite two more teams to make it much more tournament friendly 12 teams. I agree it really looks strange seeing those teams compete but I got used to it and I am sure their football association gets quite nice money boost. This way they manage to sell television rights to big/rich countries which would otherwise not be interested in Copa.

Unfortunately I know the why, but... money and TV rights
Always the same competition killers

Thanks. Just updated the OP.

Yeah, I figured  :D Good luck!

This might be one of the reasons why there isn't too much "hype" surrounding this cup here in the forum.

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Come on guys, let’s get some more of you in this gambling pool. There are hundreds of new posts every day in the Gambling Section. Are you telling me only 9 like to gamble on football.

Where are the rest of you, or are you just shit posting for your signature campaign money?

Put your money where your mouth is, only 0.002BTC entry fee.

Officially we are nine now. Come on guys, JOIN! Only 0.002BTC but the fun worth more than the entry fee and if you win the you get everything only for 0.002BTC

Another update for OP:

Come on guys, what are you waiting for here? Send 0.002BTC to the address in the OP & put your predictions in to Superbru & join our pool.

I can’t believe there’s only 9 of us so far, come on man.

I guess we are only 9 participants here because hundreds of other users in the sections are just here to meet up with their weekly sig requirements  :(

It would have been more fun if we could reach at least 15 here before the tournament kicks off.

It is always like that. There is plenty of people to shit post, bit less of those who actually have something to say and just a few who are willing to back their talk with money. I don't think we will get to 15 but we should be able to get at least one more participant to even the number at 10. As we already discussed it, Copa America doesn't have media coverage or glamour like Champions League or Premier League so I expected a bit lover numbers. I'll do a bit of promoting in my local section to see if there is some interest.

Brazil team is full of stars, though I would really miss neymar but willian is replacing him, Let's hope willian put a a good efforts.Midfield is strong of Brazil, Casemiro, Arthur should make some key passes.Firmino, Jesus, Richarloson would play in forward position, I'm expecting a lot from them.I thought vinicius should join the team after Neymar departure. Tite knows better than me, I believe in him.             

Surprises will always be present in every tournament and here I don't favor one team because I'm not sure the big team with big players can perform well throughout the tournament. So I will only predict when the match will begin.

Come on guys make the fun worth it. It's only 0.002BTC at current price it's only $15.27. Do you really care about $15.27 that much that you are thinking twice to join this pool.

Trust me the fun will worth more than you will pay for the entry fee. JOIN TODAY!

Yes, it is true that if many star players in a country certainly cannot guarantee that a team will always be able to win smoothly. Even non-star-studded countries often make surprises during the tournament. So we wait and see the moment like that.

Both Brazil and Argentina have not been playing up to whats's expected of them, Both teams last 3 tournament have been disastrous, despites going to those tournaments as among the favorites, It won't be surprising though if there is another winner other than Brazil and Argentina. Chile used to be a tough team too, they are the defending champions after winning two consecutive times, but they seem to be having a series of bad form too. So no one can tell for sure who would win this.

What's the last date of sending the entry fee? I might join the pool although it will be very tough for me to keep up with the predictions. I have no idea about most of those countries.

what is the deadline to make the predictions for the first round, Saturday's 15th Jul matches?

You can make your predictions whenever you want, even 1 minute before the match will start

There's no deadline, you can start making your predictions now. Remember that the first game is next Friday: Brazil vs Bolivia (saturday 1:30AM CET timezone):

You will be safe joining the pool before the first match kick off.
After watching few matches I think you will have some idea about the strength of the teams. So feel free to join.

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Come on guys, we are nine all together. Let's make is 2 digit first and then let's go for 15 members at least.

To those wondering if they'll make it in time to make predictions for the rest of the tournament. Relax. You can put in all your predictions ahead of time. Of course you have to wait at KO stages to continue, but it's a short tourney and it's really a couple of minutes to do, seriously.

To those not participating because you don't know anything about Copa -- hey guess, what, me too ;)

To those saying it's crazy how this forum seems to have 100s of gamblers, judging from the replies and posts, and yet only 9-20 participants in actual gambling pools, I agree. It's really crazy. We have probably a score of tipsters too, and everyone and every bookie selling tips and talking about bankrolls but there're very few who actually put down money. I'm not even sure it's all about the signature campaigns now, I think people are like in real life. A lot of talk, but no real interest.

Like all those guys posting about Bitcoin but never sent anyone a single satoshi, you know? Free world, I guess.

P.S. Agree that it's weird to have 2 Asian teams in Copa but you know what, it's there to make the competition good, and it's a good way to get a more internationalised audience. If Eurovision can have Australia, why not Japan in Copa, eh? I know, I know, purists;)

We should make these threads self moderated so we can delete all of the posts from blood sucking peasants who won’t pay to play with us. Shit posters in our gambling pool threads pisses me off.

Pay up or fuck off :)

I sent tokeweed a PM 5 mins ago, he usually plays with us.

I had no idea he hasn't joined already, I just had to check the participants list to be sure, LOL. I'm very sure he'd join, that'd make 10 of us and 3 days left, I think there is no chance of hitting 15 of us, although we initially reduced the fee to accommodate enough users but here we are.

Good call. I am always seeing him in pool threads so I was sure he was already in. Maybe he somehow missed this one. We shall see.

Very beautifully and simply worded "Pay up or fuck off :)"

That being said, I am OK with occasional post from non paying members, especially if it is good one with some Copa related info but if the thread gets swarmed with shitposters we can always make a new self moderated one just for paying members. We shall see how the situation will develop.

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I just realized that Superbru is also hosting U21 Euro tournament. It will start very soon and my team is playing  ;D
I created a free pool since payed one would not be very popular. Everybody is welcome, feel free to share the link even in spam mega threads. No rewards except bragging rights, unless I manage to get some sponsors (have few ideas but no promises).

I didn't want to make the thread self-moderated because:

1) I'm too lazy to start deleting posts everyday from shitposters and signature spammers.
2) Most (if not all) of the pools in this section don't have self-moderated threads. A few examples: NBA Pool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118398.0), Cricket Pool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141475.0), FIFA World Cup Pool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4130568.0)

I wanted to allow both pool participants and non participants to talk about the tournament, games, and contribute to discussion. Plus, it's not like the thread is getting flooded with shitposters (if you see one, report it to mods)  :D Seems like this tournament isn't as popular as I thought.

LOL still 9 participants!

Come on guys, what's wrong with you all? It's only 0.002BTC not even enough for four pint of beers LOL. When you hang up with a mate you usually drink more than four pints.

I find club footballs are more exciting than nation football. But I always enjoy when two big county face each others with some great players in their team. Like Brasil, England, Argentina, Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands.

We have lot of similar predictions on Brasil-Bolivia  8)

Will you watch the match on TV/Stream?

It’s 01:30 kick off here in the UK so to be honest I won’t watch it. I probably won’t watch many of the games due to the time zone difference.

I personally don't care about what team is competing, this is a football tournament that most of us here have high enthusiasm about sports betting especially on "football". I just don't think they are not interested in competition like this which basically is just to improve skills and will be another luck for anyone who can do it well, because everyone has a chance to win in this competition.

Thanks for the invite, LFC_Bitcoin.  I wouldn't have joined tbh.  Lol.  Anyway, yeah...  I wanna join please.  ;D

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From tomahawk9’s OP -

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I'm a stay at home parent but I commute a LOT every day so it's not likely I'll have time to watch any of the games as day time is just filled with chores and work and travel BUT I do have a paid service that lets me stream a bit from my phone, if the connection's not shitty I get to watch a bit here and there and it's not too annoying with public transport wifi since I don't travel peak hours.

But other than that, I'm still going to try watch Qatar win their first match (that's my prediction anyway haha).

Oh and Someone's promised to cut off his mullet if Colombia doesn't win the Copa so... goodbye mullet of Mr Scorpion kick;)

It's 03:30 in my country lol. Yeah, big time difference sucks, so I also won't be able to watch some matches. But I looked at schedule, and I see that many games will be played much earlier. But it seems that none of my local TV  won't broadcast Copa, so I will have to use IPTV.
I'm expecting big Brazil win in the opening match.

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@tokeweed, it's great to see that you're in. It would be great to get few more last minute players.

It's the thing same here with me, anything that has do with Americas timezone are always at the odd hours of the night for me, I do lose sleep for a number of NBA games already but I wont be doing the same for the Copa America, perhaps when the tournaments get to the knock phase I might have to see a few matches.

I think I’m going to PM hilariousandco to see if he’s interested in joining.
Anybody else, maybe micgoossens.

Edit - Invited both of them. Can’t think of anybody else who likes football enough to play.

Bump!

There is less than 24 hours before the tournament kicks off.

The prediction pool is still open for just 0.002BTC, Come on guys!

It's very different from everyone's time zone. In my country even at 8:30 am. It was very early for me to watch every match Copa America. I also don't know local TV in my country, whether it broadcasts Copa America or not. But I am more watching it through streaming.

I was thinking about Mic too.
May be I will make a post in WO too.

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Damn it! we are still 9?
Come on guys, less than 24 hours for the official kick off. Make it 15 please.

Edit:
This is the best I can do: Join the prediction pool, If I win then I will sponsor half of your entry fee (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154128.0)
I hope we find at least 6 more participants.

^  We are 10.  :)  Just shipped .002 to the address given:  fc3ae401ab5b5a69942f792c34070179adccffc3d9161c0da2fde6a3da208311

Good luck to everybody in the pool!

Edit:  And you don't have to pay for half of anybody's entry fee.  Lol.

LOL I tried my way but it did not work unfortunately. Good to see that we have now two digit 🙂

From the first match I see a lot of us were very good at exact match. I was close only LOL

Two match today. Let's see how we do.

It's nice to get the exact pick in the first match but on the other hand I have trouble getting good odds to bet in this first match Brazil vs Bolivia, in the end I bet over 1.5 goals in half time with odds 1.87 LOL

Congratulations! You were lucky to win 🙂

I did not watch the match but yesterday before I go to sleep I wanted to see if there are good odds to bet but was very disappointed to see the potential markets I usually bet. Asian under/over, draw win draw did not have good odds. I was thinking to bet on halftime/fulltime for both Brazil, lucky that I did not or I would lose LOL

Damn it!

I initially had Brazil to win 3 - 0, but because of their recent rout against Honduras, I decided to go + 1 goal further, LOL. We are only just getting started anyways, I think this is going to be a very competitive pool.

Brazil had a great win to kickoff the tournament, It seems Coutinho could use this tournament to find his best form yet again, after a forgettable year with Barcelona.

Surprise, surprise right? I was so tempted to bet on a handicap on Bolivia but the odds were so shit even with +1 (5/1 or something) I looked away. Glad I did. I threw in a couple of upsets in this first round of matches but I'm still not sure.

Betting wise though, I'm going for a Venezuela+Argentina parlay. Them Peruvians are playing nice football, and actually so are the Colombians, but you know, Messi. 7/1 good?

Totally forgot about the Brazil game until earlier today, checked the score & hey, I got the 3-0 Exact Score.
Some things are guaranteed in life - Death, Taxes, LFC_Bitcoin knowing his footbsll.

;D

It's halftime already between Venezuela and Peru, the score remains goalless as either team is yet to find the back of the net.

The match has not been a total boring game, both teams have had their fair chances and hopefully the 2nd 45 minutes will bring about some goal. Still rooting for Venezuela to steal the win, though.

Argentina vs Colombia will be a much better game afterwards, a lot more talented players. Should be a good match, Argentina should win.

I forgot to put the predictions on 14th June games so I start with a bit of handicap but I will not lose a single game now, I will put daily my predictions for the games. So far not really good games but it is just the beginning of the tournament, will get better in next games.

Well, so far this game is disappointing. There wasn't much action in the first half and we saw only few shots made. I hope second half will be better...

Game 1 is going to end with a 0 - 2 defeat for Argentina, a typical Argentina team we've always seen in recent years always lacking the cutting edge, the first was an absolute disappointment, No shot on goal from either side. Columbia however finally took the lead almost midway into the 2nd half and doubled their late with about 4 minutes left to play.


No one from the pool chose Columbia to win, It was 90% for Argentina :o

Can Argentina bounce back from this early defeat ? or is this going to be another disappointing tournament ?

Brazil won the game easily thanks to Coutinho scoring goals in the absense of Neymar, whose presence was missed as I felt Brazil struggled for long periods of the game. @LFC_Bitcoin congratulations on winning your bet with the exact score, it’s difficult to win with the exact score you’re very lucky.


I can’t believe it that Argentina lost the match they’re the favourites to win this cup, it was a horrible performance from them I hope they bounce back from this loss.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/copa-america-2019-argentina-0-2-colombia-5-talking-points

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/neymar-brazil-philippe-coutinho-vs-bolivia-score-result-copa-america-2019-barcelona-psg-a8959706.html

I doubt they will be able to bounce back and keep up in this Copa season. They are a broken team, was not able to play better today as well. Evaluating their performance, I would exclude them from trophy winner list.

LOL I am the bottom one in the table. I thought Argentina was going to win, I did not have any idea about the result of Venezuela vs Peru outcome but I was confident about Argentina.

What is wrong? Argentina is not a top contestant anymore?

I didn't watch the match because of the time difference but after checking statistics a bit and looking at Colombia squad I think Colombia will come very far in this tournament. I have also predicted an Argentina win but it seems we heavily underestimated Colombia. They have a great team and player like D. Zapata who had an outstanding season in Italy was only given 10 minutes in the game.

Damn me, I changed my Draw prediction to a Peru win, and then I knew I should listen to the statistics of Messi being good for Barcelona but shit for Argentina. Shame on me for trying to outfox myself haha. @Pamoldar Messi carried the entire team in the last World Cup, they qualified by the tiniest margins too if I remember, his hattrick in the last qualifiying game. It's incredible how far international teams get because of Messi and Ronaldo... but they don't play together often enough for the players to really gel.

Those who locked picks probably saw I'm doing another risky upset prediction today.

You can hope for a better luck today, There are about 3 of us as the join lowest point scorers. but think can change so rapidly.

With Argentina losing their first game, I think Qatar's chances of qualifying is at stake now, unless they can come up with a win against Paraguay today, because Argentina will need to win their two remaining games now to stand a better chance to qualify.

Qatar game looks interesting because from earlier this year they won asian cup so they might have the win against japan to ride on going into this game.
The odds are very good for them to have a win going at 4.90x against paraguay.

Argentina is playing weirdly these years, i do not know if they could play better without messi?...
They disappointed everyone..

Qatar was doing pretty well lately especially with the world Cup 2022 being hosted in their country. It will be interesting to know their level in Copa.

Crazy result for Argentina to lose, they have an uphill battle to qualify now. They should not be losing to Colombia, kind of unforgivable result.

I can't say that Argentina played bad in second half. Colombia had only few dangerous moments and managed to score 2 goals.
Despite this loss, I don't think that Argentina will struggle to qualify. Their remaining opponents Paraguay and Qatar are weaker on the paper. And also, in worst case scenario they can quslify to the next round as best third placed team.

Paraguay vs Qatar has just started, have to admit I am not going to watch that :D
Uruguay vs Ecuador in a few hours, might watch this one. Hoping to get lucky with my predictions in the pool tonight ;)

Paraguay have taken an early lead from the penalty spot, just after just 4 minutes.

Qatar response has been incredible too, they are dominating possession and playing with a huge confidence, the match is still far from over, I'd say!

Spotty internet so I missed first 15 mins. My take so far, the pitch is something Qatar don't seem to be doing too well with, ball seems stuck from midfield, but when it does get to the front men, they got Paraguay on the ropes for sure. That shot from Aziz... keeper didn't know what hit him it was a brilliant lob really. And then that save a couple of minutes from HT.

Two bad refereeing calls against Qatar too, the freekick from edge of penalty which was a beauty of a tackle, and then Paraguay got away without a card for an elbow body check? Damn.

Definitely far from over.

Edit: Eventful 2nd half! Paraguay goal disallowed after VAR offside, but they scored a beautiful goal anyway... and now Almoez just pulled one back with an even more beautiful goal... 2-1. It ain't over!

And now it is already 2:2. I thought it was over after 2:0 lead but that Qatar side actually has something in them. I am not watching the match but it seems like it is a very interesting one. I really hate coverage of Copa. Can't find them on any program I get (and I am paying for shitload of them) and all the streams are crappy.

Argentina is the first surprise result of this tournament.I placed a bet on them winning against Colombia but woke up today morning and I was surprised with the 0-2 result.Now with Paraguay not being able to defeat Qatar I think it can be considered as another surprise.

I won't say I'm totally surprised with Qatar getting a draw against Paraguay, It however would have hurt really much If Qatar had won the game because prior to the tournament's kick off, I predicted Qatar would win the match 2 - 1.

Lineups for Uruguay vs Ecuador is out already with Suarez and Cavani leading the line for Uruguayans, I hope can they get a win, It's been a disappointing so far  :(

Just finished watching Paraguay vs Qatar. I thought it was going to be a boring game but it turned out to be one of the best games in the tournament so far. First time watching Qatar and, man, those guys can play some really great football, wtf?? i'm impressed! (now I understand why @buwaytress is backing them  ;) )...Too bad they lack strikers with clinical finishing, otherwise, they could've won by at least a 2 goals or more today.

Looking forward to see how they compete against NT's with world-class players.

Yeah, I'm also impressed about Qatar performance. Just few starting minutes when they conceded goal was a bit chaotic, but later they started to play very solid, especially in the second half.
Now I'm watching Uruguay - Ecuador game and Uruguay leading 3:0 after first half. So far they are totally dominating. Ecuador made just 1 shot so far and one their player got red card. I didn't expected that this match will be such easy for Uruguay.

I wasn't expecting such a big scoreline either, The match ended 4:0 both Suarez and Cavani made their marks. I thought it was going to be difficult game for Uruguay and they've always had a solid defensive performance which made me go for a 2:0 win as my pick. Although, going one man down also had it's effect on the Ecuador team's plan and Uruguay took that to their best advantage.

Right? I know at least one guy knocked me earlier in this thread (and of course he didn't join our pool heh) but aside from the friendly against Brazil, they have not lost a competitive game since the AFC. They actually outplayed Paraguay didn't they? Better dribbling, better passing, they just seemed to really get stuck in the pitch so I'm wondering if they've never played on bad pitches.

I still feel they got on the bad side of a few bad ref calls although he did improve towards the end of the match. Almoez scored as I hoped, but he should really have done better with the pass on 92nd minute. OR made the shot himself.

Uruguay I didn't watch, needed an early start but I put $30 on Suarez and co and they got me almost 2/1. Messi and Aguero must be feeling really crap seeing that team turn it on.

I am happy with every moment in this competition. Very many surprises that occur at the beginning of the competition and countries that might be predicted to win every match actually experience a defeat like Argentina. Paraguay should have won against Qatar if we saw in terms of players certainly Paraguay is better.

Only Japan vs Chile on tonight which concludes the first lot of matches. I think Japan will edge this one but I’m not betting on it.

I expect Chile to win or make a draw and Peru too.
Qatar performance was quite acceptable as a start and Uruguay was hard on Ecuador!

I think Chile is better than Japan and I don't understand what is Qatar and Japan doing in this tournament to be honest, they are not from Americas.

I also think that Chile should win it.
Qatar are Japan are invited as guests. In previous tournaments other teams not from South America played in Copa America - Mexico, USA, Honduras, Costa Rica or Jamaica. In nxt tournament 2020 Qatar and Australia will be guests

Alexis Sanchez was listed as doubtful for the game as of 24hours, he's available to play tonight and he's in the starting line up.

This should be an easy win for Chile, they'll be playing with very strong line up and I doubt Japan will be able to cope with.

Didn't watch it so don't know if the scoreline did any justice but don't need to read too much to know Chile probably deserved the win. Japan did well enough in the WC, and I know others will agree that they were overrated in the AFC (yet still reached the final) -- such a hammering, though, so is this a true reflection of Japan's true (lesser) ability or Chile's superiority? This was the team that beat Argentina last Copa... on drab penalties.

With a final score of 0-4. As you say, Chile must win easily. And sure enough, Chile does score 4 goals. And now Japan & Ecuador are in the bottom position who both suffered defeat. Of course a very difficult match for Japan going forward if you want to escape. I must admit Chile is a strong team and very difficult to defeat.

Damn! Of course I knew but I was very hesitant to take Chile - 1.5 Handicap for an odd of ~ 1.84 which could have been a very easy win for me.

I think the score line was justified by how the match went, The scores is a bit unfair to Japan's performance, they weren't totally outplayed and they had their own opportunities too, but football isn't always a fair game.

As expected Chile won, well easily...
Bolivia vs Peru are playing right now and i think Peru should not miss this game!

With only 10 teams from South America, the tournament cannot be played since no group can be formed. So the decision from many years was to add 2 other teams generally from North America and the Caribbean countries. Since those teams are playing at the same time in the concacaf, then they decided to add 2 Asian teams.
I know it is hard for nippon and Qatari guys to make it but it would be funny to have an Asian team winning Copa America  ;)

@snipie Hell yeah, It would really be funny to have Qatar win this copa. Think it would cause a riot, possibly never get reinvited to anything anymore after heh.

But speaking of Concacaf, I thought there were some good deals there, been predicting well only problem is parlaying them with lousy picks in copa.

Venezuela draw wasn't helpful at all to my cause. I seldom ever pick draws! I'm in last place. Really not worth picking upsets heh.

What is going on with Brazil and Argentina team? Other day Argentina lost against Colombia and today when I woke up I saw Brazil shared point with Venezuela. A goalless match for Brazil.

For the time zone thinggi I can not watch the matches but looking at the scores it seems like both team are not playing their own game or I am missing something?

I think Venezuela are a good side, I picked them win against Peru, but It wasn't going for an upset against Brazil, I placed a bet on them + 0:2 which I won.

Let's see what Argentina's performance will be against Paraguay, It's a must win for them tonight. I hope they don't fail to deliver again.

Brazil yesterday was the biggest surprise of this tournament and I don't think we will see a bigger surprise than this from the other games.Brazil odd was only 1.15 and they couldn't win against one of the weaker teams of the whole tournament.I hope Argentina will win tonight.

Brazil had 3 goals disallowed by VAR, crazy. All 3 were correct decisions though.

No clear favourite to win this tournament, both Brazil & Argentina dropping points & looking beatable. We could have a surprise in this years Copa.

I guess there will be changes once we get to the knockout phase of the tournament, Brazil is still looking beatable, however.

As for Argentina it will remain to be seen if they will advance to the next stage, I'm more tending towards Uruguay, but the first matches cannot guarantee anything.

lost tons yesterday thanks to that draw , was expecting tons of goals so my bets were involving Brazil hanicaps , Brazil totals and match totals
only two bets landed were Under 4.5 cards and both teams not to score

judging the last two matches of Brazil I can see obviously that they are struggling , yeah they are controlling the match ( against two much weaker teams ) but they are lacking of real strikers
so far the strikers were really bad IMO , failing to translate tons of chances to goals

next match against Peru I see a lot of value in taking Peru +1.5 , of course the last two performances may shake Brazil and give them incentive to play much better football next game but honestly I don't see that

I will share my bets for Colombia vs Qatar later today , there are some decent bets for that much but I will probably just pass Argentina vs Paraguay since both of them played really bad in the last game so don't have a good idea about how this game will end

Argentina vs. Paraguay is a no bet for me as well. It is late so I can't watch it and more importantly I don't have a clue how this will end. If Argentina starts well and score a goal or two this could end as a big win for Argentina. But if they start badly they could fall apart and lose the game just as easily. If I had to bet I would chose a low scoring game with totally boring first half where both teams test the opposition strength.

You guys made me regret a simple parlay I had today with the favourites in both Copas against one in the Concacaf. It's a small bet but at the time I thought 1.5x was a good pad as I feel like Aguero/Messi surely can't stay scoreless for this game, they'll try everything and at least come away with a slim win.

I'm still toying with a Qatar outright for over 11/1. I really liked their game the other day, they very nearly got the win too, but for some reason the pitch/atmosphere or SOMETHING got them really stuck in the game. I don't know enough about them or their tactics but I really like what I'm able to see so far.

^

I also love how Qatar played during their last match, but I won't be placing any bet on them at least not tonight.

I'll only be betting on Argentina vs Paraguay match because of what's at stake for the Argentines, they are currently offered @ 1.485 to win at full-time and 2.38 on - 1.5 handicap on my favorite sportsbook.

I'm taking Argentina -1.5 @ 2.38

ok ok ok
made tons of bets and all depend on how Colombia will do today , so it will be a huge upswing or downswing
colombia -1 X1.500
colombia -1.5 X1.98
over 2.5 goals X1.79

made a lot of other bets as well , I like the under for cards and over for corners but not much BTC books offering them if you can find under 4.5 cards and over 8.5 corners for decent price

Qatar under 0.5 might be good , I saw a lot of people tipping it but personally don't  like it much


Argentina should perform good indeed , but the odds making me confused cause judging by the last game it shouldn't be that easy for Argentina to win the game
maybe both teams to score is good for that but I'm not sure

will try searching for some good judgments after the first match ends , if I find some good bets I will share here right before the match start

In the end I decided to bet on both games but for small stakes. I played both to score & over 2.5 goals on both games as a double. The odds were 2.6 for each so I am seeing some value here and hoping for open games. I know I will regret this :)

Columbia are dominating so far with just 3 minutes left in the first half, Columbia are all over Qatar, and Qatar would be glad the scoreline remains goalless,

I'm not too sure we'll get up to 3 goals in fixture If neither team manages to score in this half.

wow just another boring game where a team is dominating the whole match but failing to score decent goals , this competition is lacking of good strikers
lucky for me I did a couple of corners bets live that kinda minimized my loss , lines for Colombia corner handicap was really good live since we can all tell that Qatar won't get more than 2 corners by just watching the first 30 minutes

I will skip the next match cause I'm not in good mood , two matches in a row with bad results from two teams who are nominated to win the trophy  >:(

If you think you're having a bad day, I placed quite a lot of bets on Argentina  :(

I think I'm done with hoping for a change from them, It's probably not going to happen.

Argentina played badly and only got a draw against Paraguay, what's with Argentina? he has a lot of players with very good quality, is this a coach factor and strategy? or is this a factor in not being compact with Argentine players?

Sorry everyone,,, I must have not noticed this thread when it started or I would have joined and now it is too late. Actually,,, I do not know much about football in South America. Here in Asia we always know about Messi and all those samba teams from Brazil but the local leagues and even the tournaments are not so popular except for the betting people. I guess Brazil should be the favorites to win even though they did not win all the games yet? Even without Neymar it is hard to see them not win unless the teams force them to penalties. The big surprise is Argentina I guess!

Didn't watch this one... basically the only game I could watch was Qatar/Paraguay which ended 2-2, because it started early. Anything past midnight and I'll be in trouble if I watch. But seriously you're right, this tourney is obvious in the lack of killer instinct in front of goal (save for Uruguay). Also lost a string of bets in Copa, and not even 1 underdog hit yet. I find it difficult to explain what seems to be a lack of quality from the reviews I'm reading but other than the single match I watched, I can't objectively say...


I guess we should have pinged all the EPL pool players! OR maybe next times just sent them superbru invites... but I suppose not everybody appreciates spam from all the different tourneys. To be honest, I'm not knowledgeable at all about Latin American football. If not that a lot of them play in the English leagues (not to even mention La Liga!), I wouldn't know them. Thanks to the Reds, past and present, I learn a bit more about football in Africa and S America too -- a lot of great history there as well, but not much found online that's in English.

Oh and yes, Brazil are always one of the favourites but Colombia (who rained down on Qatar last night) look like they've got the ability.

Poor Argentina, they have drawn the match. It was a must win for them to keep up with the tournament. Chance is they will be out of the tournament from the first round. Colombia and Paraguay will be the next rounder from this group.

Argentina played badly yesterday night,they couldn't manage to do only 2 passes with each other and this impacted their game.Paragua was indeed in a good form and they run and played better than Argentina.Argentina equalized only because of the quality of Messi and not because of a team squad play.

very disappointing, many people are betting that Argentina will win the match and spend a lot of money to bet on this but in fact Argentina lost to Paraguay.

Glad to see a temporary leaderboard so far because I made that prediction together at the time of the first match and until now I don't have much time to take part in the match and make bets every day. But if I look and predict for the next match about Uruguay vs Japan I think it will be a big win for Uruguay and just changed the score prediction there. Good luck all!

This Argentinian team is costing me money and I think a lot us too. I had another acca and lost it because of the draw match. Bookies are making good money of them.

Seriously, in the first match they lost, other day Brazil settled with a draw and yesterday Argentina settled with a draw.

The problem is that in Copa America almost all teams progress to knockout rounds. Only teams that that are finishing competition are last placed teams plus worst one of the 3rd placed teams. This opens up a lot of space to calculate or even keep your best players fresh for the knockout stages.

Granted, I don't think that is the case with Argentina, they have just lost all the confidence and disregarded most of the of the modern football principals. I saw a picture on the twitter when Messi has a ball around center of the pitch, Argentina needs a goal and only one player is joining him on the opposition half, WTF  ???

May be they thought Messi is enough to win a match and the rest do not need to support him.

I am not watching any of the matches because of the time zone difference but looking at the scores and reading news I can tell team Argentina is not in good shape. I will avoid picking them for next few matches.

Football is always about the team no single player or a couple of them make a large difference if the team are not on the same league. It's not the lack of talent that's making the Argentine team poor. It's their rubbish politics in and out of Football. They needed a lesson and I hope this Copa tournament would be the one.

It's a combination of bad things happening at the same time:

- An AFA (argentina football association) that's a complete disaster who they decided to appoint as manager the first guy they saw walking in the AFA headquarters (Scaloni) instead of going after Pochettino (Spurs) or Simeone (Atletico Madrid).
- A manager who has as much experience managing a NT (or a club) as my dog. That sub last night (Di María in - Lautaro out, right when Argentina were dominating the game) really showed his inexperience.
- Players who, psychologically, seem to struggle to play at a decent level with the NT (Otamendi, Messi, Di maria, Lo Celso, Armani, etc).
- Players who don't have the level to play in the NT (Matias Suarez, Pereyra, Tagliafico, Paredes, etc) + this is the first time they're playing together at a competitive level (meaning, there's no chemistry yet)...That's a recipe for disaster.
- A really tense atmosphere behind the scenes because of leaks about the NT formation, players having discrepancies with the manager, pressure from the argentinian press, and other stuff, which might be affecting the entire team mentally.

Take all of that, mix it, and you'll get an argentinian clusterfuck, this has been going on for like a year, since the south american WC qualifiers. That's why I said a few weeks ago:


If I had some bankroll to make some bets, I'd totally go with a Qatar win + O2.5goals next weekend, IF Qatar doesn't try the same tactics they used yesterday (5-3-2).

today on papers should be easy , there is no way to compare between Uruguay and the current Japanese team
honestly of today Uruguay don't win by 3 goals or more I would be really disappointed , but hey I have been disappointed many times in this competition  ;D

Japan players aren't experienced , so the whole goal of this participation just to prepare more for the next WC qualifications

any handicap bet on Uruguay looks good IMO up to -2.5 , over 2.5 goals looks nice as well 

Uruguay doesn't strike me like a team that goes for heavy wins usually, until their last four or five games, there were privileged to have put four past Ecuador (thanks to the early red card to Ecuador) IMO.

I'll on the other hand be surprised if they score more than 2 goals tonight.

true but as you mentioning their last games were really good , also they are thrilled with their last heavy victory
the main factor of this bet is Japan since they haven't done anything special in their last game except like 2 chances

so I would say any team of the top 4 teams in America can easily beat them with 3 goals difference
but obviously this is a game of chance as well , so can't predict it perfectly

@tomahawk9, you summarized what's going on with Argentina in recent years. Pochetino or Simeone as manager of national team would be perfect choice, but I just don't see any reasons to leave their clubs and start to work with national team. Personally, I think that Marcelo Bielsa would be interesting option for Argentina.
Still, I belive that Argentina will reach next round but there their journey will end. Now they can only dream about winning Copa America trophy.

Awesome Cup with Argentina players trolling in the field and Brazilian loosing what should be an easy game...
Now if Peru will win against Brazil and Venezuela knocking out Bolivia which is possible then Brazilian will be out from this stage!!
Now for Argentina it has to won vs Qatar or else the whole team should be put in the hall of shame, all together!!
Now for the next games, Uruguay and Chile have to pass to the next round early.

Argentina’s decline is surprising considering the quality of players they have, I feel they need to sit down and work out their tactics otherwise they risk being dumped out early. Brazil are sorely missing Neymar as their other strikers have failed to step up so far. That exactly is the problem Argentina are over reliant on Messi, and they think that he can single handedly win them the match and hence there was no support for him.

There we go, Uruguay didn't score up to 3 goals, just like I've predicted, they even had to come from behind twice to secure a draw, Although Uruguay's performance weren't bad though but I think Japan indeed earned the draw.


I think Argentina's issue is more than what is shown on the field as @Tomahawk9 had suggested yesterday, The bigger problem is probably AFA, and until there is a change in the system, their results might keep being a disappointment.

I think surprises are happening here more than in the Euro or World Cup.Yesterday Uruguay was not able to win against a Japan side which suffered a heavy defeat in the first game of the tournament.

I will not bet again in this tournament where 1.15 odds have failed two times already one in Brazil vs Venezuela and one in the Uruguay game yesterday.

I saw the Japan highlights and I have to say,,, they played really well, but as did Uruguay. Now thank you for sharing the format of the competition Trofo I had no idea that only last team plus 1 is out of the group stage. No wonder the teams are just playing to draw. They feel maybe 2 draws is better than no points or maybe even 1 win is enough to proceed!

Agh! Seems like this season is not for me LOL.

I was thinking Uruguay to win over Japan but I was wrong. I think I need to stop gambling until I see few matches. The prior knowledge about the teams and the record analysis is not helping much. Too many draw matches.

@Pamoldar
The club season just ended, everyone is tired, they want to go on holidays with their families. Many players are in other places mentally and lacking the needed motivation. Just some of the factors why it is hard to predict the outcome of matches like this.

The quality of Messi is once again not enough for him to carry Argentina to glory. It is not yet over but I really doubt anyone can consider them serious contenders for the 1st place now.   
 

I was waiting for Uruguay win on accumulator ticket for very nice win. I was 100% sure this will be an easy win and it should have been according to the statistics (couldn't watch the match). Good thing I decided to cover myself just in case so i placed another bet on Japan x2. This way I at least covered my initial stake and ended the day with about 20% profit. If Uruguay has won I would have ended up with more than 400% profit for the day. Too bad I didn't have more money on account to properly cover the bet.

It make sense.

There was a time when Argentina or Brazil were the ultimate fear for other teams but now it seems other team does not much care about them. The previous glory is fading.

I lost three acca and I was very close in each of them. First one lost because of Argentina lose their first match. The 2nd one lost because Brazil settle with a draw in their 2nd match and the third one because of Argentina LOL

You can comfy yourself that your team was Uruguay 🤪

Seriously, the bookies are making serious money from this tournament.

Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me if the players, mentally, can’t be bothered with the Copa. It’s been a long, hard season like you said.

yeah you were right , Japan yesterday wasn't the same team we saw in the last match I'm not sure where they got that confidence from  :D
yesterday was the best match so far , I really enjoyed it even tho lost my handicap bets on Uruguay but the overs landed ( was expecting 3 or 4 goals but was expecting them from Uruguay alone lol )

Uruguay was kinda unlucky tho missing some huge chances , but overall yeah Japan was really surprising

Jesus almighty, I'm still rooted to the bottom of this league. They've been enough upsets in this tourney already, but I hardly ever pick a draw when choosing an unexpected outcome, so I've missed out. Very frustrating to bet against the flow and still lose when the results take just the wrong flow haha.

So it looks like Qatar and Japan both earn a point. I daresay either of the 2 teams manages to even draw the next game and they'll progress. Qatar might just do the honours of knocking Argentina out... and I think even a draw sees them progress, so hey, maybe I get lucky tonight. Qatar 0.5 handicap doesn't do justice to the odds though, so I'll wait till the day itself.

Anyway, analysis after the fact will drive you crazy. Perhaps I get to enjoy the games on Sunday instead.

Nice job @tokes.

30 minutes into play and Ecuador 🇪🇨 just equalised against Chile 🇨🇱 through Enner Valencia. Chile took the lead after 8 minutes through José Pedro.

Chile are back in front with a goal from Sanchez, who is using the tournament to find his form back.

I hope Chile will be able to secure the win tonight, there is about 20 minutes left in the game.

Well they did. And seems like in the point table I am climbing up slowly LOL

By the way, I thought I had a 1 - 2 for Chile but just logged in and checked it was 1 -3 LOL

Hahay has been superb with those exact score points, I got my first exact score yesterday, but I remain on number 8th on the leaderboard, My Blind Love for Argentina is costing a lot  ;D

The final round of the group stages gets underway today, These predictions are about to get tougher.

I am also not good at exact prediction LOL

The other day the draw match (Argentina 1 - 1 Paraguay) was just an accident. I was angry on Argentina's performance in their first match and then I though fuck them and do something that not expected and seems like it worked 🤣

Although while I was gambling I picked Argentina to win in an acca and lost it only for this pick.


 

Well, damn me, even on the easy games I can't get it right, I went for a draw upset thinking, damn all these draw upsets, I need one.

Anyway. Damn me haha. Stuck to the bottom. Round 3 starts tonight. I can actually watch 1. Probably the Brazil one, boring I know.

Let's see if I can't get my first exact pick tonight...

Maybe Venezuela vs Bolivia could be boring but I do not think Brazil vs Peru will be. Brazil has to fight vs Peru which is not a bad team. Losing this game for them would be very shameful since they could be knocked out from the competition in their land!!

Make parlay for today matches ( Peru vs Brazil - Over 2.50 - odds 1.89 and Venezuela at odds 1.50 ). I personally do not have the slightest doubt about this choice, anything can happen and I am always ready to risk losing. Good luck guys! ;)

Watching Brazil vs Peru, 4-0 until now... In two words, Peru is asking Brazil for "more goals"! This team is broken especially after the shameful mistake by their goalkeeper...
Venezuela 2-0. Brazil and Venezuela to the next round!

Took a quick look at the thread and placed bets on the two choices above and they hit with brazil scoring early on and into the second half with alot more. Venezuela had a harder time with boliva with all their shots hitting the crossbar in the second half but they put in a nice header in the last 2 minutes of the game to solidify the win.
Not bad odds for them either @1.57x before the match and brazil over 2.5 goals them getting 5 goals with the penalty awarded into extra time.

Argentina looks badly and I think that there is only hope for Messi. now looks like he can't pool the whole team like Ronaldo does with Portugal.

I didn't expected to see such big win of Brazil. They were able to score even more. On the final minutes of the game penalty of Jesus was saved by Peru goalkeeper. After difficult match against Venezuela, this win was really nneded for Brazil, not only to finnish 1st in the group, but also to improve their confidence.
I can't wait for Sunday games. Will we see another failure of Argentina? Even if they will win against Qatar, it may be not enough because not everything in their hands. Colombia have guaranteed 1st place, so they may rest they key players and even lose to Paraguay, which would mean that Argentina woulf finnish only third. Offcourse, they can qualify through ranking of third placed teams, but it's risky thing.

Will not it be confirmed if they win against Qatar? They will end as 3rd place and they will qualify to the next round. Or one team from group A and group B will be qualified?

Great win for Brazil last night, I make them favourites to win it. This is where the tournament really starts to take shape though, Argentina might not even advance to the next round which would be a massive shock.

Argentina will definitely advance to the next round because they be able to defeat Qatar. They will easily defeat Qatar. However, this is somewhat a poor system since only 2 team will have advantage.

They should be Qatar, they should beat them comfortably but I also thought they’d win against Paraguay & Colombia.

The Copa America always brings weird results for some reason.

What are you talking about? Only 2 teams have an advantage how? Anyway yes, Argentina to win the tournament is looking very good, they are not in a good position now but this looks like the easiest game they will have in this tournament. Maybe a few bad results is good for a big team,,, because if you win everything too early you lose near the end like Barca and Messi in Champions League 1 loss and they were out. Liverpool lost 4 times and still won the Cup. Tough group stage remember?

I wanted to risk again in Bolivia vs Venezuela with a 1 - 1 draw and this time luck did not favor me like the Argentina vs Paraguay match 🤪

Staying at the bottom. Thing is without watching matches it's hard to have idea about team strength and pick in a predictor. Anyway, today pick:

   
Qatar vs Argentina: 1 - 2
Colombia vs Paraguay: 2 - 1

Bro, these are my pool finishes so far on here -

Premier League 2017/18 season - 3rd
World Cup 2018 - 2nd
Premier League 2018/19 - 1st

I am fucking 9th out of 10 in this Copa America one ;D

If i were Colombia's coach then i will play with the second team including the goalkeeper since regardless of the results i will stay the first in this group. Besides losing vs Paraguay is preferable since chances to get ride of Argentina is bigger.
Qatar should try to score or at least keep their goal clean which is not obvious even vs shorty and the ten woods...
Will follow Qatar vs Argentina game, hope it will not be boring as Peru...

I am leading you here 🤪
Seems like I am better than you when it comes to blind picking 🙂

It's the time zone however I will try to watch the matches from then next round. I hope we will see some entertaining match.

Just checked the table and it looks like Argentina at the bottom LOL

@snipie: Oh I didn't mean Brazil would be boring, I meant my choice was a boring choice...

@LFC: Don't worry bro I got you covered in 10th place heh heh. But wasn't it lovely to see Bobby Firmino get that no-look goal? I know he never becomes first choice but that type of goal is exactly what you'll get from a guy trained at Liverpool;)

Since I'm already so far away, I might as well continue with picking the underdogs. Qatar go at 15/1 (https://fairlay.com/market/qatar-vs-argentina-19/)! Sorry Messi =p

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LOL!

I'm still going for Argentina tonight despite my doubt on how they will perform, I'll just go ahead with them, they'll either win or make a disastrous history.

I'm rooting for Paraguay tonight , their last game against Argentina showed how Paraguay can compete with the top teams and today they have all the motivation to win it since they do need the win to be 100% sure to qualify
Colombia already guaranteed first place in their group , and as I can see from different sites all people confirming that Qeiroz will give a chance today for the young players
please note he is still new with Colombia so yeah I'm certain he needs to try other players today since it's the first official competition for him with Colombia and he should be planning for World Cup as well not only Copa America

I took Paraguay to win and Paraguay +0
Under 2.5 not looking bad as well IMO , but goals in Copa America has been really not predictable especially yesterday where I was expecting under 2.5 goals in both matches

regarding Qatar vs Argentina , this is the tricky one that I'm not sure at all what to take
maybe BTTS is good but not sure about it TBH

if Argentina played the same way the played the last matches I can't see them winning by more than one goal
they are playing with pressure as well unlike Qatar who are just playing for getting more experience , that pressure may lead to bad result for Argentina

but as I stated not sure about it at all , will update if  I make some bets  

I would like to make an unpopular opinion.
After Columbia match, I started believing that Argentina with such a bad tactical play won't even make to semifinals. However, after the match with Paraguay my opinion has changed completely. Now I believe Argentina can win Copa this year.
So what changed after Paraguay match? There are two things, positive things come up for Argentina:

1. Messi: He wasn't upset at all after the match like he becomes after most of the losses. I think goal (much needed) gave him confidence. Even in his speech after match, he said, "It would be crazy if Argentina disqualifies in group stages." He is not in the mood to lose at all. A confident Messi can turn any game in any circumstances on any day.

2. Team: So Argentina tried almost every combination on pitch in last two games, except trying Dybala. Out of all combinations, there is one which is really amazing. It includes Lauro Martinez and Sergio Aguero upfront. Messi in AMF position. Acuna, Parades and Lo Celso in midfield. Tagliafico, Otamendi, Pezzella and Casco at the back with Armani. Argentina tried something similar in second half against Paraguay and it made them completely different side until Scaloni substituted Lauro with Di Maria.

So others may not agree with me but I still believe Argentina can win 4 matches from here in row and lift the Copa trophy this time.

PS: Argentina winning match against Qatar alone will guarantee their spot in Quarters even if they finish third. They won't have to depend upon the result of match between Columbia vs Paraguay.

Here we go! Argentina with an early lead, 1 down 2 to go.

Although the goal was a total gift from the Qatar defense, but Argentina fans could care less, I'm sure!

Qatar aren't giving up and from what I can watch from 25th min onwards, it actually isn't such a shitty game. Desperate defending from the boys in maroon but up front they're more than a match for Otamendi and co.

Seeing the highlights now and saw Aguero miss a couple. My word about that early goal though. 2 goals to win my bet but not if they make another blunder like that!

Argentina need to secure their win, or the might get stunned, a lone goal lead is very tricky at this point.

Paraguay are trailing by a goal too, although Paraguay aren't playing well and I doubt they could secure even a draw here, but a lot of scenario is still possible tonight.

Argentina has qualified in the end and they will play against Venezuela in the first knockout game. In this competition format you really have to fuck up majestically to not qualify. Add to that low quality of more then half teams in the Copa and you can see why Brazil & Argentina supporters won't be happy with anything less then trophy.

We shall see, my first favorite for the trophy is Colombia with Brazil, Uruguay and Chile following them. Argentina will lose against first good opponent maybe even Venezuela.

Tonight Argentina played much better and and deserved to win. And they should be happy that despite finishing in 2nd ppace in the group they won't face very dangerous opponent. I doubt that they can lose against Venezuela.
In other game I had bet on Paraguay win against Colombia. I haven't watched this match, but looking st stats it seems it was close game.

Like earlier webtricks mentioned, Argentina played with more confident this time. I think they will qualify for the semi final as well, they need to quite hard working and play their best.

I think Argentina have only postponed their doom day, it's inevitable, obviously.

They still look like they are no match for the top teams, I don't see them defeating the likes of Colombia, Chile or even Uruguay. They might not even make it past Venezuela, but we'll see.

I've lost quite a bit of money from Copa, and my standings in the predictions table totally reflect how badly I've performed with my betting heh.

Only saving grace was I put down my biggest bet on a Uruguay win (their winning opener), so it prevented my losses from looking really shameful.

Chile and Uruguay worth watching if you can I think. Japan want to win this so I'm backing them to win... but it won't matter because Uruguay should also win or at least draw to progress. Ecuador are the favourites though!

The game was kinda boring after all at least for me.. One side game  :)

Argentina played awfully comparing to what people expected from this "big" team. Qatari defence mistake leading to Argentina first goal was fatal! Besides many opportunities were missed by Qatar... (just wondered if Argentina played vs Brazil instead of Qatar?, 0 chances to pass?)
Venezuela isn't a bad team after all but Argentina could pass it. 50-50% would say, risky game!

for today I'm mainly betting Japan vs Ecuador
we all saw how Japan don't tend to play tight and they are always willing to play open no matter if they are behind or ahead
betting on goals in this match should fine , probably the best is to take over 3
both teams should score today as well but odds for that aren't worth it IMO so better stick to the goals

Japan last game showed that they can play really good , guess in first match the whole lack of performance was due the lack of confidence and experience
well it seems they gained confidence now

Uruguay vs Chile is probably a no bet for me , but will see if I can get some decent reviews and stats and I may throw a bet later

Uruguay vs Chile id an unpredictable game for me too, I have no idea which team to go with nor do I know what to expect from both side, but since Chile are through to knockout stages, I'll tend go with Uruguay. It is going to be a very close game.

Japan vs Ecuador is another game, Japan looks like the better side If you look at past results as well as results in the tournament so far, I'd expect another close game here, In favor of Japan.

Many people say that it is the time that Argentina is going to win a title with Messi on their squad, however it seems like they are not able to do so.
In my opinion, they don't seem to play dominant football such as the one that Brazil or Colombia plays. It would be a disaster if they don't win the trophy again.

just took BTTS in Chile vs Uruguay X1.90 , Uruguay should be fighting for the win and this should create interesting game with chances
Chile may not start attacking early but they whatever style they decide to play they need to ensure at least a draw to finish 1st
so both teams has all the incentives to score unless somehow the game ends 0-0 which I can't see happening

also I saw a lot of people picking Uruguay in sites and forums like blogabet , personally not sure about it but it seems there is value in taking Uruguay

I hate taking "popular" bets. I am thinking in a way that bookies will end each day in profit. Meaning few of the most popular bets must end with unexpected results in order to bust most people. That is especially true on days with limited choices of games. For this one I am thinking Chile to score @1.45 has some value but I decided to take more risky option of both to score and over 2.5 goals @2.30.

LOL I was so confuse about the match time that I forgot to pick my team for the last group match between Ecuador and Japan. Seems like I will never climb up in the point table. hahay is still leading with glory.

Many people including me expected Chile to win yesterday or in the worse case a draw to happen but Uruguay did win.This copa America has been full of surprises and I think that even Ecuador game is some sort of surprise,not being able to beat Japan is not the best of performance from a better quality side.

For the first match, I also thought that Chile is going to win Uruguay. And I am very surprised that they didn't score any goals.
As for the second match it was obvious for it to finish in a tie. The teams have the same quality and balanced squads so the draw is a fair results for both counterparts.

I officially hate Copa America now lol , things don't make sense anymore
in Japan vs Ecuador there were 2 goals in the first 35 minutes then both teams failed to score anymore  , the weird thing is the 2nd half I was feeling that it was a friendly game not a game where both of the teams need the win to qualify
was expecting a lot of action , a lot of cards and a lot of goals ..etc but the 2nd half was a complete disaster for both of the teams

this match only served Paraguay  :D

in Chile vs Uruguay the scenario was kinda expected , Chile wasn't lucky enough to score a goal even tho they deserved it

but here we go .. another negative day in Copa America  8)

after the first 3 rounds I'm on the 2nd place  8) and very happy to see my nick there, congrats to hahay taking the 1st place
Are you ready for the Playoff?

My opinion is that Argentina will not easily pass Venezuela

Meh...  I started out well and ended up at the bottom.  I guess that's it for me guys.  I'll play for the last couple picks or so and see if I improve.  Lol.

Enjoy the rest of the pool.

hahay is killing it.

By the way, seems like the entire football world is taking a break. Things will start spicing up once we will have EPL and CL started.

Anyway, the next three match:

Brazil - Paraguay
Venezuela - Argentina
Colombia - Chile

I am going for Brazil, Argentina and Chile.

Don't forget a pair from the playoff ->>
Uruguay - Peru

It can be a though one

I am kind of in doubt about Colombia - Chile match. Colombia is playing good football however Chile is the defending Champion two times in a raw. In Copa America Chile become the Brazil, Argentina LOL

I may change my mind but right now I stick to Chile.

Between the Uruguay - Peru, I will go wil Uruguay. They have better record than Peru.

My money is on Columbia. Didn't check the odds yet but if they make Chile favorites I'll take Colombia not to lose for high stake. Columbia is playing very organized football and I am quite sure they are not loosing this one in regular time. Could very well end as a draw and get decided on penalties.

I changed my mind. Since I can not pick a winner comfortably, I am going with a draw LOL

1 - 1 seems good to me. 🤪

https://i.imgur.com/dGuvNuA.png


By the way, I have not much to lose too.

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The odds are in favor of Colombia, however it's not going to be an easy game for either teams. I went with Colombia too, because of their performance in the competition so far.

This is the real business end of the competition, Brazil & Argentina to advance to the semi finals.

I actually thought it was strange that Uruguay were the slight underdogs. I'd pick them any day (and I did! Shame it was part of a parlay that failed). I also thought Japan were a good side so I'm not surprised at all they drew (I predicted that exactly in our pool anyway). I think the bookies got it mostly wrong in this Copa, but I will admit  that I was expecting more victory upsets, not just draws. Somehow, draws always piss me off haha.

@tokeweed what happened haha! I jinxed you when I said congratulations, didn't I? I did climb up to 9th but I'd be doing so much better if I didn't back Qatar 3 times in a row haha.

@SyGambler: That's the problem indeed. I honestly thought Japan would push for the winner, since they needed to win but they looked like they didn't want to qualify. Very strange tourney indeed.

Next match not worth betting at all unless you think Paraguay can win. (16/1)

And Brazil is through, anyone watch the match? This is exactly what I mean so far when I said all the upsets have been worthless -- draws and not underdog victories! Straight ducks all in a row for all of us. I was the only one who predicted a 1 goal margin victory, and even though tempted to predict Paraguay upset, I'd still have lost, so yeah, stupid tourney so far.

If Brazil play like this in the SF, they won't make it though. I still think they need to start with Firmino, yes, he's not samba all out, but he gets the defence jittery and that's how you play against a defensive side. Get them scared. Qatar did it, Tite should have watched.

I'm thinking of parlaying Venezuela with Colombia tonight, and then hedging it with Argentina win. A draw would kill me though haha.

the draw of Brasil was my first choice, than I've changed my mind, cause, com'on , Brasil daaah (no one predicted different than me, so the leaderboard in untouched)
well, if I could change my pick for the next match I will do it for sure, cause I do not believe in Argentina anymore, it can be a draw 99%  ::)

Brazil almost risked the qualification against one of the weaker teams of the tournament like Paraguay.I think that if they had been against Venezuela which they draw their group game they may have been eliminated yesterday night but the winners cannot be judged so congratulations to them.

A great game to watch tonight Venezuela vs Argentina.

Looking the odds for the tonight game Venezuela vs. Argentina I will bet on an total scored goals over 2.5 @2.00
Argentina has to wake up, otherwise, will loose badly :)

I went the opposite route. I took Venezuela not to lose @ 2.9 and Columbia to win and under 2.5 @3.6 together on the same ticket but for low stakes. I have a feeling that could pass but I am nowhere near confident enough to take any bet on tonight's matches for high stakes. Maybe only Colombia 1x @1.35 but that odds are a bit on low side for me.

daaah, this old fame of Brazil is not working. I thought they will have a clean win but the match was decided in the Penalty. The glory is no more for Brazil and Argentina.

I picked Argentina for today's match and not sure if I will get any point LOL

I thinks Argentina will win this match since this match is quarter final So Argentina will try best and Venezuela also try. But hope Argentina will win and score will be  Argentina 2:1 Venezuela.

I do think and pray for Argentina to win coz I have a bet on them LOL

These top two teams (historical Brazil and Argentina) are disappointing with their performance however I picked 3 - 0 win for Argentina.

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I went for Venezuela 1-2 Argentina. The Argies haven’t been at their best so far but I still think they’ll get to the semi final. Brazil don’t look great at the moment either, needed penalties to get past Paraguay even though they had like 70% of the ball.

I don't know why but I am feeling very confident for Argentina tonight. Slowly and slowly Argentina has found the missing sync and link between players. Messi, Martinez and Ageuro in front with De Paul, Lo Celso and Parades in midfield are capable of building quick attacking chances. If these six link perfectly on pitch, I feel Venezuela will be slaughtered tonight.  :D
My prediction: 4-1 with one of the Messi, Aguero or Martinez scoring atleast a brace.

PS: Sportsbet.io have best odds if you are planning to bet on Argentina. With average odd of 1.57 on rest of the gambling sites, Sportsbet offering 1.62 odd on Argentina.

Just have finished the match Between Argentina vs Venezuela. The score was Argentina 2: 0 Venezuela. Opps my prediction was the score will 2:1. But did not😂😂  .  But Argentina won the match 🥰🥰     

Very close score
Match ended with Argentina scoring 2 goals against Venezuela's 0
Next rounds match Between Argentina 🇦🇷 and Brazil 🇧🇷 would have been a perfect finals match.

Lautaro was the second attacker after Icardi on Inter...

I have the feeling he will be the 1st next year... #TeamArgentina :D

Argentina’s players have finally woken up and they’re starting to play top football again, it was not their best performance but overall they showed plenty of positives ahead of the crucial match against Brazil. Venezuela players disappeared in the first half but played some attacking football in the second half, but it was too late for them to win the match. I’m excited for the match between Argentina and Brazil both are my favourites and I don’t know on whom should I place a bet on any suggestions?.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/28/argentina-beat-venezuela-to-setup-copa-america-semi-final-with-brazil-football

We have already a very interesting pair in the semi finals Brazil vs Argentina. If Uruguay wins today then we are going to have another interesting pair Chile vs Uruguay. These are the the strongest teams in America in my opinion.

Njah.. our goal over predictions was not reached, and my pool prediction was almost there but Venezuela has a few poor goal chances so, the 0:2 result is a real one and congrats to Argentina for this clean sheet winning
The next stage will be a match to watch, against Brasil, and very hard to predict

I also was confident that Argentina will pass Venezuela, I even managed to get correct score. But damn it, I forgot to leave prediction on Chile - Colombia game. I lost in time and thought that game will be played today. Nevermind, because I would have predicted Chile win and would get 0 points for that :D.
Today I expect easy win of Uruguay against Peru.

Oh look!  The top two guys at the CL pool last season are at the bottom two of this pool.  Wtf happened?  This is embarassing.  Lololol.  :D

That just confirms my belief that I (and probably most of you) should never bet on games/sports you don't actively watch. I think I lost all my bets on Copa America and would have been much better of if I limited myself to U21 Euro and Tennis.

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I didn’t expect to do that well in this pool. Obviously everybody knows Brazil & Argentina have great players but my knowledge of some of the other South American teams is minimal. For example Peru, Venezuela etc who has a fucking clue :D

I’m much better in the PL pool.

And I was very close too. My prediction was 0 - 3 for Argentina. Argentina could score few more goals. They missed some very easy chances. By the way, I am glad that in the other match (Colombia vs Chile), I picked a draw and it was correct just missed the correct score. My pick was 1 - 1.

Anyway, for Uruguay vs Peru, I am going for Uruguay.

Cool, I got one exact score, but then ended up on 3 points like many of you guys. Guess I should be glad I clambered up 2 spots. Still 6 points off the pace with only 5 games left. Need 2 more exact scores just to get even!

But how about that eh? Damn Chile still knows how to progress. Poor Higuita now has to keep his promise and cut off his beautiful mullet though.

You know what would be funny? Another Chile Argentina final hahaha.

This time Argentina will not show any mercy. By the way, I doubt Chile will win against Uruguay. Uruguay is playing better football in this tournament.

Well, the way is open now. Watched the game and Uruguay should really have won. Missed the very first penalty in the kickout, and bye bye Suarez and Co. Peruvians happy as hell. Looks like the road to an Argentina final seems even better than ever... Peru are horrendous to watch, but credit to keeping their nerve till the shootout.

I was just mentioning how a team does well after getting past a difficult group stage. I suppose it was time for a Messi medal at long last.

So, Uruguay is out of the Copa as well. Damn, in this competition almost every game goes in opposite direction from my predictions. Good thing the game was played earlier than I thought. I just went to betting site to place the bet and found out that Peru won on penalties. I was sure Uruguay is winning this.

If I post any more tips related to this competition you just pick opposite and have a sure money  ;D

This could be another Chile's trophy, as I expect them to make to the final and face either Brazil or Argentinal (preferably), Third time could be a charm for Messi and his compatriots.

Unfortunately no one from the pool pick a draw, or even peru to win. We are down to the last four games now, with harder choices to make  :D

I'm so disappointed that Uruguay got eliminated because it was my favorite team in this tournament. They scored 3 goals tonight, but all these goals been scored from offside and referee cancelled it. And referee decisions was absolutely right. Peru reaching semifinals probably is the biggest surprise in this tournament

Peru reached semi, it's not a surprise I think. Peru made it against Uruguay, that's the surprise for me.

A thrilled match is knocking at the door. In Copa, Brazil vs Argentina is very rare. Here is the result of last three meets in Copa America.

1999 Semi Final
Brazil vs Argentina- 2:1
Although Argentina took an early lead, Brazil have had the last laugh. Both the team was full of legend like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Riquelme.

2004 Final
Brazil vs Argentina- 2(4):2(2)
It was more thrilled, the match was a drawn of 2:2, Argentina has scored at 87th minute but failed to defend. At the end, Brazil won with tie breakers.

2007 Final
Brazil vs Argentina- 3:0
Even though Argentina was full of famous player like Riquelme, Messi, Veron, Tevez, Mascerano, they failed to have a competitive match. A almost total young team of Brazil made it.

History and performance, both are in favor of Brazil, I think this time, Brazil will win once again.

@Trofo, great, tell me your predictions and I'll go the opposite;) Maybe I'll just lock my picks on the SF, so I can see your picks, then make bets against it ;)

The funny thing is that this is such a short tourney too, so it's really hard to say how we'd have performed over the long term. I do remember the early frontrunners in the EPL pool falling away towards the end of the season.

Can't believe I didn't even predict ONE draw though.

I think Brazil, name is on the trophy this year, they have the best mix of talents. The defence is good, the GK rock solid, creative midfield & Firmino + G Jesus is a nice attack.

Argentina are a good team but they’re not as fluent.

I would agree with you that Brazil has a better team.
However, it is only one game between Brazil and Argentina and everything is possible. Maybe one detail can make Argentina win that. A Messi's foul or a mistake in Brazil's defence. I wouldn't be so sure that Brazil is going to win that.

Moreover, Brazil has other advantages because this tournament takes place in Brazil. So by acting as a host, Brazil has a much better atmosphere and again if we look at head to head from both teams I personally believe Brazil will win the match, but I don't think there will be many goals created in this match.

Peru just did not deserve the win. Uruguay was the better team and they played very well. All the time they were attacking. Their bad luck that all the goals they scored end up with offside.

I have already said that no one can predict every match that occurs. And Peru has good luck for this competition and it's worth going to the next stage. It is feasible or inappropriate, of course we cannot say because what happens in the field is reality.

Most talented is not the winner every time. Croatia went to the final of World Cup with an average team. Brazil may be the most valuable squad among all Copa America teams but that doesn't make them the automatic winner.
I have seen all four quarter finals and in my opinion Argentina played the best football among all 4 teams that reached semis. Argentina squad isn't perfect at all, they lack the required co-ordination, their talisman isn't in his best form but most importantly of all, they have required passion to win the cup. They look like completely different in quarterfinal in contrast to group stages. So sometimes passion plays upper-hand as compared to skills and can create wonders. I do believe we will see same teams in finals for thrice in a row but final outcome could be different this time.

Yeah, and Uruguay played better yestarday, Peru didn't even made shots on target...

LOL, check draw of the tournament - we have Brazil - Argentina and Chile - Peru in semifinals

Brazil seems more solid and capable of winning the trophy.
If they pass from Argentina they won't have any problem with Chile.
It's mostly Brazil vs Argentina as an early final

Yupz, Brazil is indeed a team that is highly favored in this competition. And in the near future this will be against Argentina. In my opinion it is not a difficult match for Brazil, because Brazil will always be able to pass every match that exists. I believe that Brazil will qualify for the final.

This was a Copa America full of surprises,Columbia and Uruguay are eliminated by teams that are not stronger than them with Uruguay I think being the bigger surprise between the two games.

We are going to see a game between Argentina and Brasil and this will be the most beautiful game of the tournament so it should not be missed to watch on Tv.

well, the Wednesday match is a hard one to predict, I'm giving a little advance to Brasil and will have an insomnia night for sure, cause they are playing at 02:30 based on my local time, but I am not gonna miss this extra super classico

Dunno...  I think I pretty much know enough on what's up with the EPL but I still suck at our pool.  Lol.

Anyway, wanna do a fun bet?  We're both at 14 points.  Let's go 1v1, who finishes higher wins.  10 bucks.  ;D

Don’t think I’m going to finish in the prize positions but I’ll keep going & submit my predictions. I’ve never been somebody who gives up in life so I will keep going :)

I was performing woefully too, until the last two rounds, There's still fixtures to go, whichbis more than a enough to finish among the top users, It's still an open competition IMO, and it's getting a bit more tricky now, since users with the least points and had no chance of winning could pick against the expected outcome with the hope of an upset.

My bad I did not check the draw. Now this means we are having a final before final. I can see Argentina vs Chile final again LOL

You never know, may be you will end up getting 12 points from the next 4 remaining matches 🤪

I doubt Brazil will let Argentina pass through. I believe the game will be finished by the end of the first half.
And yes, Chile has best odds to pass. Interesting

I have seen two match of Argentina and I think they are very capable to overcome the obstacle that  Brazil will bring for them. I am predicting a 2 - 1 win for Argentina. The worse will be 1 - 1 draw.

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The stage is set for the biggest game of the Copa America 2019, The lineups are out already.

I'm still backing Argentina to win this match but TBH, Brazil team looks pretty more solid right from the goalkeeper to the centre forward.

Well, as expected by the majority, Brazil won. The best team throughout this tournament, and with the better players, had no problems tonight and they're now waiting for either Peru or Chile in the final (I think Chile will go through and will play their 3rd consecutive Copa America final).

IIRC, prior to this game, Brazil had an undefeated record against Argentina in games during KO stages (I think it was 8 wins and 2 draws), last time Argentina won against Brazil was in the 1990 WC with a goal from the legendary player Caniggia. That plus the fact that Argentina has been playing poorly lately, odds were pretty low for an Agentina win (so, if you backed Argetina, you didn't do your homework properly lol).

Now, Messi & Co. will play for the 3rd spot next saturday (literally no one cares about this game tbh), but regardless of the result in that game, i'm expecting a few things after Argentina returns home: The DT getting sacked, and several players announcing their retirement from the NT (Messi, Otamendi, Di Maria, Aguero).

Also, Dani Alves, MVP, what a beast! And he's 36yo!! Fun fact: last time both teams met in an official game (not friendly) was in the Copa America final in 2007, who was the MVP of that game? Dani Alves  :D What a legend.

And again Argentina failed to win a cup.

If I'm not wrong is almost 30 years for them without any trophy and of course 0 national cups for Messi's carrier.

Yes,Argentina has not win a cup from a long time but the game yesterday was amazing to watch,both teams played the football they know to play and in the end Brazil had the upper edge being in front of their fans gave them a boost.
Many predicted Brazil to win in different sportbooks and they were right.

another EXACT in my pocket  8)
Brasil played a great match, the game was pretty interesting cause if was the opposite I will for sure take a nap
Congrats to Brasil to be qualified for the final, tonight I'm giving the advantage to Chile, but close, I'm predicting only one goal of difference between the two teams

I don't understand that with Argentina they always look disappointing in crucial matches, many bet that Argentina won but the opposite happened.

Argentina just don’t have anything except Messi do they? Brazil through to the final & I expect them to go on & win the tournament.

Sergio Aguero from Manchester City, Lautaro Martinez from Internazionale, Leandro Paredes from PSG, Marcos Acuna from Sporting, Nicolas Tagliafico from Ajax
well, all those players are playing beautiful football in their clubs, it's a "national team" issue here, they have to work on that one, cause everyone is expecting that Messi will win alone the game....

The team is a complete mess, and needs complete overhaul with a new set generation of players just like Italy and Netherlands are doing before it can start to change for the better.

I'm only sorry for messi who is likely to finish is international career without a national trophy, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the greatest player to have graced the football pitch.

Totally correct, Messi is undoubtedly the greatest footballer in the history of the beautiful game, not winning an international trophy with Argentina does add a bit of a question mark on such an illustrious career.

Messi really needed to win this tournament, but coming up against Brazil, the tournaments favorite, I knew they were heading home, I feel last night would be his last for his country.
I think history will have it that fge greatest of all time couldn't conquer in the international stage

I am very confused people are betting on Argentina. Even though on the other hand, Brazil was very popular in the match. Previously I had said that Argentina would certainly experience defeat, no matter if it was messi or not. Still the same, Argentina cannot compete in this competition.

This generation of Argentina players have lots of talent but they’ve been failing at international level for years. It’s a shame, they really should be winning major trophies.

Unfortunately with 1 leg, we cannot walk. Argentina, w/ or w/out messi, couldn't go too far...because simply the rest of the team is just weak - 10 woods they said..

For me Argentina has world class options in the attack but rest the team is nowhere near that level. Add to that the fact that Messi isn't playing defense and quite probably Aguero and Lautaro don't play much defense as well and you get very unbalanced squad. They can cover it against weaker team which doesen't have the power to bring the play to Argentina half.

Regarding our competition I had Brazil to win and changed it to draw in the last moment. Trying hard to secure that last spot  ;D

All those big star players just can not seem to get a good team flow going and with all this good experience behind them you would think they would at be able to score atleast one goal against brazil but they failed to do it in last nights game so are out of the competition.
Very sad to see but it is reality of messi not being able to find any other player who he can have a mind link with of where his superb passing skills would be setting them up to put one in the back of the net.
What a waste really. :-[

This is why I believe that Ronaldo is the best player in the world.
You can see the difference clearly in their national teams. Messi is so dissapointing in Argentina, and once again he didn't manage to get the team and win the Copa America trophy. From the beginning of the tournament Argentina didn't play well and it was about time for them to be disqualified.

I expected the worse is 3:0 win for Brazil but it was 2:0, Messi could have a goal unless the goal bar was a bit higher  :D :D
However, who is leading the pool here? I can't see any information about that here, would be better to see the leading one.

Ronaldo can make difference alone and we have seen it a couple of times.

For sure it's obvious they have a world class attacking firepower, but it's also glaring they fumble just as much as the defenders do, take a look at how poor Messi and kun have been all tournament long, with Just two goals between them, it's a poor statistics and I think they are still far off from winning the tournament.

They'll definitely lose their coach and a host of other senior players, so we'll have to see if the new crop of players have the mettle to bring the trophy to Buenos Aires.

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Here is currently how the pool standing is, Hahay is still leading but a number of users are not far behind.


I'm not going to argue who the better player is between Messi and Ronaldo, because both of them are really extraordinary in their own field, but I'm only going to say since Ronaldo is more of a center forward and all he has to do for his teams is to be clinical, then It's probably easier compared to when the whole team player has to go through you just like it happens with Messi.

Really? All the p2p betting sites and betting markets I saw showed me the complete opposite: most volumes lay with Brazil. Lot of people also took handicap bets, that was how good Brazil were and how shit Argentina can be.

What's the confusion? Messi playing in your team, Aguero, and you get 5/1 odds? Call me stupid but that was value right there. And if you saw the match, they actually played their best game of the tourney, so you know, bad luck (but yeah, I'm happy Alisson and Firminho made huge contributions!).

Where're your bets?

Wasn't able watch match live because of time zone difference, now watching replay and I can say that Argentina didn't played bad and they had some dangerous moments when score was 1:0. This failure of Argentina probably means that Messi won't win Ballon D'Or this year.
Today I'm waiting for tough win of Chile, but again, this match is too late for me to watch unfortunately...
So, you want to say that Messi can't make difference? C'mon, you should watch games of Barcelona. Yeah, he don't perform in national team so well, but he is probably half of their team. I'm trying to imagine where Argentina would be without Messi.

I still can't believe that perun won the match even with 3:0, Chile had several attacks but not much organized which left them achieving 0 goals. Perun was lucky in my eyes, first 2 goal was not that much organized, because of the mistake of Chile's defend, they got those.
I'm not denying that Messi is a great player but to me, Ronaldo is beyond Messi.

the leader-board is untouched, obviously no one could predict the 0:3  8)

the 3rd place match will be a hard one, two big losers confronting, but here I'm giving a little advantage to Argentina

I couldn’t have been more wrong in nearly every prediction in this pool. I hope to do much better in the PL pool because I have totally sucked in this Copa one :D

I expect Brazil to win the final comfortably.

Copa America often brings surprises.

Colombia, Mexico, Paraguay, Chile & now Peru have been finalists in the last 20 years. It’s a strange tournament, it’s not always dominated by the teams you’d expect. However I agree with you LFC, it SHOULD be a win for Brazil but Peru will give it everything they have to be champions. They may not make another final for a long time so they will fight like dogs to try & win.

"comfortably" - not so sure, Peru will for sure play a match of their life, cause when will they have the new chance to become champions? maybe never again

Agreed, i also have a big feeling it won't be an easy one for Brazil. It could go either way. Maybe Brazil's biggest backing is the home tuft.
Also the reason i think the tournament has had various finalist could be because of how short it is. I mean immediately after group stages we get into Quarter finals. An underdog who has been first or second in group stages is just 2 matches away from the finals.

This was indeed the tournament of surprised.I was just thinking before the game that Chile should get an easy win and the semi finals were without any big surprise then it comes Peru and make a really good win against a Chile without bright ideas.

I think though that now it is obvious who the winner of this tournament will be,Brasil.

Will, it really be tough one or Colombia Chile will take the 3rd place easily. Argentina is really playing so far less than expected and I don't think they will differ in the 3rd place match, moreover, they are broken now. Mostly Messi because it was probably the last hope for him to have a trophy.

the opponent is Chile, not Colombia

Brazil is not sure to be a champion in this turnament, Peru become underdog team in this tournament, they compete with extraordinary spirit.
Brazil could lose if they underestimated the power of Peru just like Chile did. if Peru become a champion it will be good for argentina because they will not be bullied again by media lol

Do you remember Chile has won the last two editions of the Copa America even when everyone would have expected Argentina to lift the trophy on both occasion, Brazil needs to be very cautious, If not, the story of the underdogs might be to continued.

I have placed a bet on Chile, think about how sure I was that they are going to win this game. I also consider of gambling that they are going to win the tournament. Thank God, I didn't. Maybe noq I think that I should bet on Peru to win. It is very unlikely but it would be interesting if that happens right?

I can see Brazil is going to lift the cup this year, if Peru does then this will be an upset. I did not watch the match but was very surprised to see the score that Chile lost against Peru. Not one or two goals but they conceived three goals!

It's really hard to bet for the underdog when the odds aren't THAT great value... 5/1 was what Peru was given last night, the same as Argentina vs Brazil, so yeah I haven't got much value from these bets, not that I won much. The only standout bet I can recall was the very comfortable Uruguay opener.

But now Peru 13/1, maybe the draw at 5/1 is interesting?

And guess what, we have another Argentina-Chile showdown... I suppose since it's only for 3rd place, we can expect a free-scoring game?

2 games left. If I get 6 points I still have to hope everyone else misses... so I really have to predict against the grain here!

I do expect a free scoring match because both team know they have nothing much to lose. I have seen few Argentinian match and if they can keep attacking then they may get few goals. May be over 2.5 will be a good bet for this match.

And about the final between Brazil and Peru, I think this match may decide by penalty shootout or we will see a low scoring match. Peru will definitely plan for a defensive strategy.  

It is not a 1-0 or 2-0! Chile was beaten by 3 goals? That was unexpected. Argentina should worry about the third place now..
Brazil is going to win the Cup unless Argentina_mode will be enabled :P

Even those of us who participated in this competition predict it will be a win for Chile and of course it is a surprise for all and about who will lift the trophy, I think Brazil will definitely get it, maybe easily.

those are the possible starting lineups for the Saturday's match:

Argentina
Armani; Saravia, Funes Mori, Foyth, Tagliafico; Lo Celso, Paredes, Di Maria; Dybala; Martinez, Suarez

Chile
Arias; Isla, Medel, Maripan, Beausejour; Aranguiz, Pulgar, Vidal; Sagal, Vargas, Sanchez

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Argentina is in a maybe better psychological position, cause they've lost the game against Brasil, but Chile has lost from Peru, they has to gain more positive vibes to get their heads up and try to play a good game
I'm now giving a little advantage to Argentina, but my prediction of a draw + penalties is also a possible option, so I'm on 50/50 for now...

Even though Brazil is the favorite on the grand finals I also agree that it won't be a comfortable win for them. Peru got stomped during the group stages but they seem like a new team once they started progressing in the tournament. They're a strong team even if they don't win against Brazil on Sunday they still have a chance on the future tournaments because looking at their previous copa america results they usually finish top 8 or higher.

Well obviously none thought that Peru was going to win. The worse case could be a draw in regular time but winning by 3 goals margin was indeed surprising.


What if Peru beat Brazil in the final? 😜

It's Copa America, anything can happen mate  ;D
Since am always a neutral when it comes to Copa American, i would be happy if an underdog won this tournament.

He still has another chance next year where his country will be the co-host.
I still don't understand why this tournament is sometimes held yearly  :o
It makes it less interesting to me.

The 2020 Copa América will be the 47th edition of the Copa América, the international men's football championship organized by South America's football ruling body CONMEBOL. The tournament will take place in Colombia and Argentina from 12 June to 12 July 2020. This will mark the first time it will be hosted by more than one country since 1983, when it was played in a home-away basis, and the first time ever in two countries.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Copa_America

No way, Brazil is winning this. I have chosen Brazil to win 2:0 in our pool and given my record the best Brazil can do is claim a draw and win on penalties  ;D

If there is some Selecao fans among you, I could be persuaded to change my prediction for modest fee in BTC and by doing so guarantee an easy Brazil victory.

I have a feeling that Brazil is going to win in a very comfortable manner. Peru had a few good matches recently, but it is not enough to take on the best team in the world. Teams like Argentina and Uruguay had a slight chance of beating Brazil, but not Peru. The final is going to be very one-sided and I won't be surprised if Brazil wins by a margin of more than 4  goals.

We shall see.
Remember the Paraguay game where most people expected Brazil to just have a comfortable win in regular time but it turned out to be hard for them.

Ys, I also think Brazil will win the match easily against Peru on Finals. And I hope the score will be something like 2:0,3:0,4:0. Because In this Copa Amerika brazil did not digest any goal yet. So I think also in Final they will not digest any goal.

Brazils are hot favorite to win the final against Paraguay but a lot depends on the day performance. If somehow Paraguay gets the lead first, I think it will be then a very thrilling match. Having a 3-0 Brazil win may be not as entertaining as 3-2  brazil win  :)

Yes, so far in this tournament we have seen it. Chile was defeated by Peru, Argentina hardly equalize against Paraguay, Brazil and Venezuela draw match, Argentina was defeated by Colombia and many more unpredicted matches.

If Penu wins the the bookies will make millions if not billions from this single match LOL

It's FOOTBALL, anything can happen, but bookies and majority of fans world wide would back Brazil to take it home. I do not think it would be comfortable by any means.
Argentina has another shot next year, but need an overhaul of the training crew to stand any chance, otherwise it would be more of the same.

Yeah, I get it but in some tournaments/leagues you can predict nearly accurately and teams have consistency. Like EPL. To me CL is hard though.

Anyway, I think Peru does not have anything to lose so they should play free game. Brazil will be in under pressure for sure but they should win this match very easily.

If we compare the current and past grid tournament tables, the data is slightly different from each other.  It seems to me that the teams show really unexpected results.  No wonder bookmakers began to change inserts.
Apparently all this is happening against the background of unexpected results of the group stage.

Every match in Copa America is indeed unexpected and difficult to predict. Just an example like Peru, who would have thought that peru could beat Chile with a score of 0-3 without any resistance. And for the final, maybe an unexpected match will come again.

I believe with Copa America and CAF, bookies already made billions! and maybe some people with 0% knowledge of soccer and 100% luck too :P

of course, I remember that time, chile becomes underdogs team and Alexis becomes a new star. Even though Peru has lost against Brazil on the group stages, it will certainly be a lesson for Peru when they rematch against Brazil in the final.

I still wonder if any Peruvian player will get any good transfer after the end of Copa America.
When Chile won the trophy many players got tranferred in big clubs and became key players in their teams. Do you think that something same would happen with Peru?

It's very much possible. If you caught the eyes of the selection board of a club then they will hire you. Clubs are always looking for talents so they won't miss it.

Argentina vs Chile is few hours.

I am not sure about the winner between Argentina and Chile, even though I'm leaning towards Argentina but I think this will be a match with a lot of goals. The odds for over 2.5 goals is great and thats what I'm going to take tonight and maybe a small bet on Argentina

I am also expecting a free goal match. Both team has nothing to lose. Both will attack and we will see goals from those attacks. The winning possibility for Argentina is high but Chile is a good competitor.

Which chilean players are you referring to? And to answer your question, I could see the GK going to a bigger club (he's playing in Peru), he was a beast against Chile.

A bit of statistics, in case anyone's interested:

Head-to-head record (all games): Argentina - 59W / Chile - 6W / 24 draws. Argentina are undefeated against Chile in Copa America games (19W, 6D). Funnily enough, Argentina lost the last two Copa America finals (2015 and 2016) against Chile in the penalty shootout so, if the game today goes to ET today, [on paper] Chile have a good chance of winning the bronze medal.

Also, last chance for Messi to show up in this Copa America, what a shit tournament he's had so far :/

*edit: and how's the pool going, guys? Any early winners? Or do we have to wait until tomorrow's game?  :D

Well Messi will need to miss his penalty shoot too LOL

I think Messi is better freekicker than shooting a penalty shot, seriously.


hahay is leading. So far he had 24 points. We have two match left. bigdaddy (23.50) and LTU_btc (22.50) has the possibilities to be the first winner too.

Finally one solid Copa match in normal hours in my part of the world. Hopefully, it will be an entertaining one. Last two finals on Copa were between Argentina and Chile and they were not very enjoyable. This time the stakes are a bit lower so maybe we will see more open match with coaches willing to play for goal more.

I'm afraid it's going to be another typical Chile vs Argentina game, but I'll be watching since I've got some free time.

I've lost quite a loy on Argentina during this tournament (Including my picks in the pool) because of my love for Messi and I'll still take Argentina to win tonight @ 1.89 seem a pretty fair value.

I am watching the match. Lets see how Messi and his team performs.

Fight after a foul on Messi
Well, there was no real fight at all but...

Two good goals in favour of Argentina for now, I’m hoping that Chile will get one in the net
Good game for now

Ok, anyone, plaease  ;D
A gif of the Messi chest to chest “fight”
Now
Please
 ;D ;) :D :D :D :D

Hahaha two gorilla fighting and you are both out!
No hands used that day lol

I thought Messi was much polite 🤪

My pick in the pool was 3 - 0. Looking very promising LOL

It’s a bonsai t-rex vs. bonsai chicken
 :D :D :D

Yes thought the same thing too but he surprised me a little especially with this new type of fighting lol
BTW 2-1 now  :-X

I think that referee decision to give red cards for both Messi and Medel was too strict, yellow cards probably would be enough. Nevermind, Argentina were leading 2:0 already.
Now I see that I will not fall below 3rd place in our pool. I have 25.5 points together with hahay and I'm just 1 point behind big_daddy who is first. So, everything is still possible before final match :D

No
It was a right decision
I would do the same
Cause minutes before, there was only tensions on the field, and there where no good and fair football

They knew that thos kin of argue/fight will end as a red alert.... so, why they didn’t fight like a pro?

Yeah right, Both Copa America and African Nations would have seen numerous gamblers lost billions of money, Both competitions have been full of upsets are we've heavy favorites lose matches on several occasion but I think that's the same case with every competition, The bookies will always win, eventually.


While I'm convinced that it was the right call by the referee, I believe showing both players a yellow card would have been better, we not even half way into the match, and the match could have gotten totally out of the referee's control if it were to be a final.

Here you go-
https://i.imgur.com/TGN8eKL.gif

I thougt it would be more difficult for Argentina to win the match against Chile but it was not that difficult. Though I'm not a fan of Argentina, I think they deserve the 3rd place.

3rd place for Argentina is the best they could do in this tournament.
Unfortunately, Messi didn't manage to win a trophy with Argentina for another championship. This chest to chest fight was very funny though.

Argentina still manage to hold their lead despite of the fact that Messi was given Red card.
If you look at the fight, don't you think that Messi did not start this fight and he was the one who should not be given the red card  ???

I really don't get why Messi was given the punishment.

mathematically the first 3 names on the top of the pool leaderboard are those 3 who will split the rewards, the rest can play the last bet only just for fun/prestige

I'm giving a big advantage to Brasil, but I'm almost sure that Peru will place a ball in Brasil's net

The gif isn't very clear but Messi started the fight by pushing Chile's leader in the back which responded by the chest fight + a punch which was not visible unless you see it in slow motion. I believe both players deserve yellow cards and a hug to relieve tension there... But the referee already took his decision which might influenced the game very much if the score was 0-0!

Low chance of scoring by Peru unless Brazil got a goal festive, you know their defence is one of most perfect. However, Peru will not be that easy for Brazil, they will not end it so easily. I think a goalless draw is possible.

And who hit the punch ? Messi  ???

The initial push by Messi was not so harsh and if you see clearly the it was chile player to smashed his chest couple of times and Messi did not responded to it. He was the one who was being hit twice by chile player.

Today I have no doubts that Brazil will win. I respect Peru a lot, they made amazing things in Copa America this year but I just don't see them making sensation tonight. It's also worth to remember that Brazil won against Peru 5:0 in the group stage. Also, Brazil still haven't conceded any goals in Copa America tournament

I agree with Harkorede, their fight wasn't so harsh that it would be worth to show red card. And this referee decision caused even more emotions than we saw until this fight.

Messi is not attacking here like he does in the midfield he is acting as a defender 🤪 however it was fun to see this shoulder/chest fight. May be a new form of sports just invented there LOL

Back to football again, with some other users above I also think Brazil is going to win this match very easily. I do not see there will be any competition.

No the punch made by Chile's captain. And for the push it is indeed "soft" one..

Yes apart the push he was just defending.
Gorilla Fighting Cup. You have to push your opponent behind the line using only your chest lol

Yes better to end this dilemma of red cards and back to the awaiting game. Brazil gonna win with +2 goals imo!

I am going with a 3 - 1 margin for Brazil to win. By the way, I really wonder how these guys in the pool manages to get all those correct scores LOL I am currently at 7th position with only 18.5 points.

3-1 is my prediction too

And I will go on some live bets too, on over/under goals scored, can’t wait to watch the final match

Peru last won against Brazil in 2016 in Copa America. Earlier in the fisrt round, they lost 5-0, although this is the final match and Peru will play defended and try to have a goal free draw and tie breakers.

Kick off in 1 minute, I’ve just put it on & cracked a beer. Expecting Brazil to take the win comfortably, I’m going 2-0.

Final match is underway! Good luck to everyone in the pool, I'm out of the top 3 already, but I'm looking forward to see how the pool top 3 will end since it's just a matter of just 1 point and all the top has different picks tonight anyone could still win the first prize.


It's not going to be an easy win for Brazil in my opinion, an upset could happen.

Possible. Shit happens and it certainly happens in Copa America.
Gooaaaaal!!!
Brazil just scored the 1st one while I'm writing this post. Love for Everton, he is in good form as well.

Well  8) both to score is fulfilled
Now in the second half, one more goal for Brasil and that’s it!

Fun match... Well should be an easy win for Brazil now.

3 shots on the match in the door, 3 goals  ::)

Looks like you've won the first prize already, regardless of how the match ends from this point.

Just few minutes more for Brazil to hang on, though they are down to 10 men already.

Tnx man :)
This is the first time I was involted in this king of betting
Belive me, usually, I am not so good in betting, but this tournament simlpy.... parrararararara Brasil, Brasilll, parrarararararara, Brasiiiil, Brasiiil :)

Ah, Brazil won the match. It was not much tough like as I expected but not that easy as well. It's now officially end of the tournament and one more trophy has been added for Brazil.
One more time, Messi failed. That's very sad.

It was good final to watch. Maybe there wasn't doubts about Brazil win, but Peru gave good fight and after all 2nd place is amazing achievement for this team. It was a bit strange that Brazil started to play even better when Jesus got red card.
Congrats to big_daddy who won this pool! Maybe you are interested in joining EPL or Champions league pool?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154317.0
We need to get some more players.

I'm in

I'll be joining the EPL and UCL pool too, Just waiting for the season to get closer.

Since you and hahay are tied on points, that means the 2nd and 3rd prizes will be divided into 2 right ?

Prizes have been paid. (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/99d37873c07947793b87fc2ff676a36ab681350a36c707ef5b6f35f041b08486) Congrats to the winners! big_daddy won first place with hahay and LTU_btc tied for second.

Brazil really deserved the trophy because indeed this club played very well throughout the competition. So it is only natural that Brazil is favored as a champion. Congratulations to Brazil and congratulations to Messi for his red card and it is indeed very sad.

Brazil won the match comfortably i was expecting Peru would offer more resistance but they failed to offer any kind of resistance. Two goals from Brazil in the first half killed Peru’s hope of winning, though Peru did score a goal but it failed to lift their momentum. I was surprised by the way Brazil played after Jesus saw a red card, it felt like they didn’t miss him at all.

News Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/brazil-vs-peru/414153

Well, nothing spectacular in the end, although we avoided penalties in the final thankfully. Red cards in both final games so I guess that part of the tournament didn't disappoint!

Congratulations to the winners, big daddy look forward to competing with you in the other pools for next season! I've been a poor player and ended last in this pool, had to gamble on upsets to have a chance to win!

Thank you DarkStar_. I left a PM for you, Tomahawk9 and Harkorede.

Congratulations to big_daddy, hahay and LTU_btc. In case if anyone is wondering why Hahay and LTU_btc got same amount of prize is because the score was tied for 2nd prize.

Here we have the full point table:


Thank you everyone for being a part of this pool. It was awesome to have you all.

So Brazil win their first Copa for over 10 years. I think it is probably deserved, they were the best team during the tournament. That penalty for their third goal last night was a joke though.

So Dani Alves got selected as best player of the competition ?
It must be a different Dani Alves than the one playing (terribly) for PSG.
Seriously though, I haven't followed the competition much, was he that good ?

Totally well deserved winning from Brazil.
However, I think that the moral winners of this cup was Peru. They played Decent and above their powers to manage and get to this level. i am also impressed with the performance of Guerrero who I think he deserves a move to a top class club.

Yes, he was really good (as in 'old school Dani Alves from Barcelona' level of good). But tbh, either him or another brazilian (Everton, Allison, Jesus) could've taken the MVP award, Brazil was just too good.

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Well, congrats to the pool winners @big_daddy, @hahay, and @LTU_btc. Big thanks to @DarkStar_ for providing escrow service, and big thanks to @Pamoldar and @Harkorede who were of huge help to set everything up for the pool.

Hope to see you all (and more people) in the next Copa America pool/discussion thread next year (yeah, copa america is supposed to be every 4 years, but, oh well, they gotta give Messi another chance to win something with Argentina, i guess? LOL). It's worth mentioning that the Copa America 2020 starts exactly at the same time as the Euro 2020  :o (both competitions will last around one month: June 12th - July 20th)

Brazil had an easy win yesterday night.Everyone expected it and bookers only quoted Brazil with 1.25-1.30 for the win which is a very low odd for a final game of a tournament.

Peru of course with the players it has couldn't put up a good show to oppose a Brazil eager to win the tournament after a decade.

I think Copa is played every summer when South Americans don't have World Cup qualifications. In practice that means 2 seasons in a row and then break but that isn't fixed as well. Next year copa will be 4th in 6 years (counting from 2015) if I am not mistaken.

Congrats to all the winners, well deserved guys.

Congratulations big_daddy and everyone, it was a good experience and an entertaining one  :)

If you take a closer look, you will notice that most of Brazil Cups was made in 19x9 or 20x9 lol

Thank you @DarkStar_, I've got prize money. Now I have money to pay EPL pool signup fee :D. Thank you everyone who got involved in this pool, we had great time.
I'm surprised that he can play so well being 36 years old. In this tournament he was like in Barcelona few years ago - one of the best right backs in the world.
BTW, I think that Copa America trophy increased Allison chances to get Ballon D'Or. Maybe not many considered him as candidate, but Champions league and Copa America trophies sounds very solid.


Football all day/night long? Sounds nice :D