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So it's like a pyramid scheme.

It's a Game really...  You know what you in for..  Some risk and up 35% gains..  and the fun of anticipation..  you won't now until you try it.

Hi BitPotato,

I've won some money yesterday playing the game. Good times.

At the moment I have a serious problem.

After the gold and platinum potato got reset I wanted to play again. I grabbed the potato, it gave me the address to transfer the LTC to. I send the funds to your address and it was verifying the payment. But after both the platinum and gold potato got verified a name, other than mine, showed up.

I think two people bought the same potatoes and now are left without their LTC.

They got sold and I didn't receive any funds for the sold potato...

I have a screenshot of the names that sold the potatoes, other than mine, and here is the transaction:

#27263405   -25.82 LTC   Withdrawal LTC to address LRbbFX3QXnNfmwT2oMvwt2XFQxH79Z3Mcf   
30.04.13
02:59:49

#27260961   -7.5 LTC   Withdrawal LTC to address LKK356TvK9zPPNaMvtg34TXtaMfeTESxM1   
30.04.13
02:52:46

I emailed to support@bitpotato.com, I hope you read those or otherwise read it here.

I don't mind losing my money to a fair game, and I think you earn enough with your site. Please refund my transactions...


--edit

I got a quick response from support@bitpotato.com, they are resolving the issue as we speak. I will post another update if I got my LTC back.

Another important edit:

I just got a refund from the site! Including the fee I've paid!
Bitpotato service is good!
No fraud, no scam, just a legit site with a bug!

Yea I'd love to play some more but atm people are spam clicking that button so quickly that this bug is going to continue to crop up

+1 to the above, I had a similar issue where I bought the platinum potato for 37.98 and someone else's name showed up.

Purchase: http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/1fe3d941f5be77eddb69f0bbb55b5f927cf88573bb5c82d1e5a2fec374c763bf#o0

They've responded quickly letting me know they are looking into it, so at least support is active!

They've changed the mechanism now to seeing your own details if you get into the paying the potato... I hope it resolves the bug.

At the moment I didn't receive any email back yet on my 192.77 LTC purchase.

Someone with the name LTCisMy got the potato I bought and will receive lots of LTC without even paying anything.

I want my refund and I hope for BitPotato that they freeze current potatoes because if they paid out to people who didn't buy anything they are losing a lot of earned LTC.

I will keep you posted on this forum about current platinum potato issue.

Did you end up receiving the funds for selling the potato? Or did someone else get the money?

I did not recieve funds for the platinum potato. I have also not received my LTC back yet.

Hey you guys have been great about the issues, it must be rough dealing with this. Unfortunately after hearing the issue was fixed and receiving a refund I played on this most recent silver potato for 102.28 and it appears to be the same thing.

My name/website is not boner jams 2004 :(

Got a nice email back, they are currently having a bug but are really putting a lot of effort on fixing it.
I will receive my funds back and will stay out of the game until they updated me on the error.

Will post an update whenever I received my refund.

Greetings All, from http://bitpotato.com/static/bitpotato.pngitPotato.com! (http://bitpotato.com)

It does in fact turn out there was a mistake implementing the locking fix to the double payment bug, that prevented it from properly working. The locking mechanism has now been properly implemented, hopefully. At this point we're not ready to declare the bug fixed until we stop encountering it on the live site. We're crossing our fingers for when the timers expire and new potatoes are bought.

Rest assured, if there are any payment errors during the next round they will be caught and rectified ASAP. We'd like to maintain a high level of transparency regarding this issue, so we can better assure our community that the bug has been resolved. Integrity is our number one priority, and we want you all to feel comfortable using Bit Potato for all of its current and future services!


As always, we deeply appreciate your patronage and understanding. We will keep a close eye on our logs to make sure the system is operating without a hitch, and report back here once we've verified the condition of the bugfix. If you have any issues with the site, please do not hesitate to send a message to our support email, which can be found in the FAQ section of our site (http://bitpotato.com). Any and all information you can provide is greatly appreciated, so that we can be sure this issue is resolved once and for all!



Best Wishes,
The Bit Potato Staff

Greetings All, from http://bitpotato.com/static/bitpotato.pngitPotato.com! (http://bitpotato.com)
Spamming clicking directs a user to bitpotato.com/# instead of bitpotato.com
On this URL it isn't possible to buy a potato, is it?
Is that the current fix?

A captcha would be a great idea. Impossible to get a POTATO with all these bots... Kind of unfair :'

What stops you from buying your own potato over and over again?

Google translate doesn't seem to be on your side either...

Had an issue tonight where I was NOT returned either my initial sale price or my profits after my potato was sold. If support could contact me right away, that would be appreciated.

As of now, I'm out over 100 LTC.

Had an issue tonight where I was NOT returned either my initial sale price or my profits after my potato was sold. If support could contact me right away, that would be appreciated.

As of now, I'm out over 100 LTC.

After Ponzi Scheme was posted this is now completely ineffective.

The game doesn't need you, thousands of people enjoy it and make good money.

You actually fell for this?!

Once again, we heavily stress the fact that there is a much higher likelihood of you missing your buy because when the potatoes reset there are 50-100 users all mashing the buy button. Even though it is of course possible (and likely) that some users have set up bots, legitimate users have just as much of a chance of landing the buy than a bot just from clicking the potato. A captcha would make it harder to lock down the potato, yes, but if a user is determined enough there are captcha cracking services/bots and more importantly it detracts from the simplicity of the site. It's kind of like software DRM. You're making the legitimate users suffer for a solution that will be bypassed in instants by anyone who actually wants to. If it ever does become a serious issue, rest assured it will be addressed.


We appreciate your understanding,
The Bit Potato Staff

Does this really work?

A bit buggy but it is legit, at the moment there are many bots at work so you dont get the actually buy cheap potatoes  ???

Hi there,

Yesterday i thought i bought the silver potato, because it said i could do my payment and it would be mine.
So i did.
After payment, a different name showed up, my LTC's were gone and no refund was obtained.

I've sent you guys an email about the issue yesterday, but i did not receive anything back yet.

Status: 380 confirmations
Date: 3, 05, 13 02:23
To: btpto LTaPMdDkFPkSkhcvUobMGUAXEfDeBCkkGM
Debit: -21.97 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.1 LTC
Net amount: -22.07 LTC
Transaction ID: 840887814e2c5bbe9cba1a57cb9dc441f4029a6a6352e8815a382188de25e039

http://ltc.block-explorer.com/tx/840887814e2c5bbe9cba1a57cb9dc441f4029a6a6352e8815a382188de25e039

It would be nice if you guys could take a look at it and refund my LTC's to LZyR6rwdxVtatPcbpFYim8oGbQ3iMtXL8h

Hope to hear from you, greetings!
Faaz

Its more like battle bots until the site owner adds captchas and other simple human test to at least slow it down. I have the impression he doesnt care as long as he gets his cut (I wouldnt be surprised if he added more potatoes without warning anyone to increase profit).

He might as well raise the baseline price of the potatoes to 100LTC which is where the bots seem to sleep.

Luckily someone could make a copy site and only take a smaller percent of a cut on the dead potatoes which right now is really high
(the highest profit potato gives 50% to the site owner and 100% to the potato seller) .eBay/paypal eat your heart out.

Hello, Bit Potato.

Here's an update on the unresolved issues I have encountered with your website. Please note that I still hold no ill feeling towards it, as I can understand how bugs can be annoying to track down.
In all cases, the potato was clicked rapidly until the "You almost have the potato!" message popped up, where I correctly used the information to send LTC to your wallets. The first two are old issues I have brought back up as you haven't gotten back to be on them. The last two are new ones.

Unfortunately, I've been 'withheld' so much LTC that I have to stop using this until these issues are corrected.
If able to refund any of these (sale profit not required), please send them to the following address:

    LTC ADDRESS : <address here>

Thanks again for the great website,
<name>.

Status: 966 confirmations
Date: 5/2/2013 12:48
To: LLA736txvYQS1iK9aFUBSHTDeaF1EAzqT4
Debit: -32.40 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.01 LTC
Net amount: -32.41 LTC
Transaction ID: e61d7d285d372b84ce6567543b1c26a2e9ce6525d42ea9899a07d9ee658c420b

NOTE: Was sent to the requested address. Payment was sent to another person. No update on this yet.

=================================================

Status: 965 confirmations
Date: 5/2/2013 12:51
To: LKK356TvK9zPPNaMvtg34TXtaMfeTESxM1
Debit: -53.79 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.01 LTC
Net amount: -53.80 LTC
Transaction ID: e8f894740ee0393a3a08785b6c89c177b06683a0c3a65c1c06b88e2d2faefbb9

NOTE: Was sent to the requested address. Payment was sent to another person (again). No update on this yet.

=================================================

Status: 88 confirmations, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 5/4/2013 16:47
To: LLA736txvYQS1iK9aFUBSHTDeaF1EAzqT4
Debit: -53.14 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.01 LTC
Net amount: -53.15 LTC
Transaction ID: 0ed39f01fab412c9690aeba3f06a4df1650188bd62066bf3418645f7c80c8612

NOTE: Was sent to requested address. Appears to be a double payment (I hope).

=================================================

Status: 13 confirmations, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 5/4/2013 21:34
To: LWJbQ9JVx4afnswA4VBs7DMCNwbfkjNrRG
Debit: -30.24 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.10 LTC
Net amount: -30.34 LTC
Transaction ID: cc7dac214448f0d69ef21d44c3355ed70e317aa323d150cd6c45e84041605d46

NOTE: Just happened. Same situation as above.

Hi Bit Potato staff,

I bought the radioactive potato yesterday at 10 LTC with a desktop wallet as you recommended after previous bugs (even set fee at 0.05 LTC for fast transactions).
But some one else still got the potato instead of me, so the bug for double payments is still active.

Transaction details:

Status: 403 confirmations
Date: 2, 5, 13 21:21
To: Bit Potato Radioactive LcxPitkHjEWPjJMy5cQJMLaTgAoi1zzMAv
Debit: -10.00 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.05 LTC
Net amount: -10.05 LTC
Transaction ID: 9c10c045e0df85c8752168d34e52ebc0e32c9caac3a23b363f38387b6819ff1e

I've send support an email 24 hours ago but didn't receive a reaction yet.

I want my 10 LTC transaction refunded please at
LbbWMvcXFEL9RdWcxH7ro8UrrQPi6pPGtj

Kind regards,

AP Bobas

Could you update us when any of the updates actually go live because currently the site is a waste of time for anyone that hasnt programmed a bot which is why all potatoes are just sit one iteration away from under 100LTC. Anyone buying a potato after 100LTC is just bailing out the bot who bought the last sub 100 LTC potato.


For the people writing bots I would suggest the following

* You should consider locking all the potatoes except one to try to drive any buyer to a specific to potato you want them to buy by not allowing them to buy any other potato.

* Consider running your bots from multiple instances in the nearest EC2 location.

* You dont need to query the site as often because the timers so just use that info to try to make all your queries less suspicious including running multiple instances of your bot so that they can come from more ips.

* Use the locks to your advantage.

* latency is important for beating other bots so lower level languages will be more competitive.

* Put your LTC lower threshold than the other bots to prevent your bot from being the bagholder.

A blatantly lazy copy/paste directly from the email I have just sent support@bitpotato.com..
That's over 600 dollars in LTC I'm now waiting for..
The website is great, and 80% of the time I end up getting paid without issue... but that 20% of the time is holding me back pretty hard right now!

This is a good time to make a small announcement regarding the current state of our support system. Right now we are really being slowed down by users asking for refunds on payments that either cannot be proven to be due to a site error, or payments that were sent after the timer has expired. Since originally implementing the current fix to the double spending bug on April 30th, we've received a total of 4 users with complaints that have not been confirmed to be due to a user error, in comparison to the 30 or so complaints we received within the first hour of the bug occurring originally. While we definitely are not saying the bug is fixed, we are saying we're having a lot of trouble finding evidence that it is not, and if the bug is still happening, it is most definitely at a much lower frequency.

For all the users who send in tickets that end up not being due to a site error, we spend at least 1-2 hours connecting all the dots in our site logs and the block chain to be absolutely sure there were no errors on the site before we, unfortunately, inform them that we cannot give them a refund. This takes an extremely large amount of time comparatively speaking, and is why we have been experiencing such huge delays on support tickets. So basically, please be sure you're experiencing a legitimate bug before you send in a support ticket, it slows us down from actually tracking down any real potential bugs.

Lastly, when sending in a support email, be sure to include as much information as possible. Describe in detail how you think your issue was related to a site error, give us block chain links verifying where the payments are going and what happened to them, anything and everything you can send to back up the legitimacy of your issue will make it MUCH easier for us to give you an expedient refund.


As always, we deeply appreciate your patience and understanding. Above all things we really want to preserve our integrity, and we appreciate all of your support!


Best Wishes,
The Bit Potato Staff

Following a payment request i loaded up a radioactive potato, watched the "verifying payment" to finally see someone else got my potato!!?!

please answer my PM, i have proven amount and address it was sent to/and destination address (and message i was going to that i submitted, i am now short 70.90 BTC

thanks

why did everything get so quiet all of a sudden on the potato front?

Were you hoping it might get interesting ;)

(Only posting because I need to get out of newbie cage, sorry!  Three posts done....)

Well yeah it's been crazy every day then i go and buy the silver potato and the action stopped!

It seems they are having some...technical issues :(

Another quick update, we just added in a display for the current user who is attempting to buy the potato. We hope this will help end confusion in accidentally paying for the wrong potato!

Hello Bit Potato! You have a very entertaining site, and I was enjoying it for a while with several successful potato transactions. I'm certain that my issue is not one that was caused by user error. I emailed you the details, it was regarding the spud potato at 43.49. I know you are getting a lot of reports right now but a response would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

edit: just wanted to edit in and say that I just received an e-mail from support confirming they read my email and are looking into it. was a very quick response, and a good sign for bit potato, cheers!

right now people or bots are relentlessly clicking on all available potatoes simultaneously when they are available with no intention to pay... over and over again. I don't want to lose my ltc because someone is manipulating the site so nobody can buy? Does the 24hour timer get paused when waiting for payment? If not then this is a serious flaw.

I always thought operating this kind of service would not work, but it seems like there are enough people out there who just can't wait to make a few BTC/USD from... well... nothing? oO

welcome to what we do! do you never question the ethics of playing with money to make yourself money at other people's expense?

you are providing no service. I have worked many jobs, and while day trading (crypto or otherwise) may be one of the more profitable, it is not one that I feel good about morally.

when you fix a man's roof, you can feel satisfied knowing you have provided a service. speculating on currency, or potatos, or virtual potatos, or whatever, is just bullshit in any form. to differentiate between one form or another as more or less crude is a bit... tunnelvision.

Who is speculating on currencies? In case you meant me: I just mine, I don't trade (except BTC->EUR when they are worth more than what I invested energy-wise).

What I meant with "service" is offering a website to speculate on virtual potatos based on a ponzi scheme. Unlike a bitcoin (which value could be determined by the effort, that is by the time and energy used to produce it), there is no economic value associated with some dataset (if you think otherwise, I can sell you a script to create a lot of datasets in very low time!).

Another quick update, we just added in a display for the current user who is attempting to buy the potato. We hope this will help end confusion in accidentally paying for the wrong potato!

A life-saver indeed, just had to refresh my page and they all pop up! Unfortunately, before refreshing the page, I clicked on the platinum potato to see if it showed up in the message, and feel like a dick for locking a random potato. =P

It gets paused - and they should should set it up so you can only have one potato on waiting for payment at a time - and reduce the lock out period.

Dont GAMBLE your Bitcoins! Going on satoshidice, "bit potato".. Or any other gambling website your bound to lose money in long term. Believe me i've lost hundreds more bitcoins then I have ever earned off bitcoin gambling. It leads to gambling addiction which is extremely bad and harmful.

Ever since the times were dropped, it's no longer attractive to even buy above 30 because people are too scared. When the timers were long, the prices would usually always be above at least 100. The hot potato's 6 hour timer is ridiculous and was unannounced. There should be a chart showing the reset timers at least. The time should also pause when someone locks it out and it says waiting for payment, but it doesn't and that allows people to lock out the 3 hour and hot potato until it resets giving the current holder no chance. People I've seen 2 people locking out potatoes so far and were named "tater salad" and "just the tip".

I will agree with this though, I think it was a mistake to lower the times. I understand it leads to more short term profit for the company (and I don't fault them for that), but it leads to more people being stuck with the potato, and ultimately more people being disillusioned with the site. This is going to quickly cripple the price the potatos get to, as we are already seeing. Hot potato is about to expire with a price of 70~ LTC, and likely lower next time.

I think a better approach would be to stick with 24 hr or even potentially longer timers, and also start the potatos lower! Bitpotato don't get too greedy...when you sneak a starting cost in of 50 LTC people DO notice. Maybe get rid of the 3hr potato which is quickly becoming the "one person buys and that's it" potato, and replace it with a "Linear Potato." Start at 1 LTC, add +3 or +5 LTC every purchase with no crazy random increases. More people will be excited waiting for potatos to expire (this is the FUN part of the game guys! If I'm not waiting for a potato to expire then I'm not on the site and you're making less money!) and more people will get to play overall. Forcing at least one potato to remain at a lower price for longer also expands your market potential significantly.

Anyway, just random thoughts...not my site though, is it ;)

edit: also found it a bit ironic that in a game so centered around abusing people's greed, the owner's of the site got a bit too greedy with their monetization of the site! hahaha

is the site malfunctioning for anyone else? I don't get a timer when I mouse over a potato and only one of them has a constantly updating timer....a few of the potatos say "NONE" under owner and time. ofc I buy a potato right before this happens too, and coincidentally it expires...lol.

https://i.imgur.com/yUSVGWJ.png

Same here. Also even if you click the open potato, the address doesn't pop up, yet if you refresh, your name is under the one you just clicked.

I will agree with this though, I think it was a mistake to lower the times. I understand it leads to more short term profit for the company (and I don't fault them for that), but it leads to more people being stuck with the potato, and ultimately more people being disillusioned with the site. This is going to quickly cripple the price the potatos get to, as we are already seeing. Hot potato is about to expire with a price of 70~ LTC, and likely lower next time.

I think a better approach would be to stick with 24 hr or even potentially longer timers, and also start the potatos lower! Bitpotato don't get too greedy...when you sneak a starting cost in of 50 LTC people DO notice. Maybe get rid of the 3hr potato which is quickly becoming the "one person buys and that's it" potato, and replace it with a "Linear Potato." Start at 1 LTC, add +3 or +5 LTC every purchase with no crazy random increases. More people will be excited waiting for potatos to expire (this is the FUN part of the game guys! If I'm not waiting for a potato to expire then I'm not on the site and you're making less money!) and more people will get to play overall. Forcing at least one potato to remain at a lower price for longer also expands your market potential significantly.

Anyway, just random thoughts...not my site though, is it ;)

edit: also found it a bit ironic that in a game so centered around abusing people's greed, the owner's of the site got a bit too greedy with their monetization of the site! hahaha

Now, on to more important issues. Bitpotato.com (http://Bitpotato.com) has just suffered from a small "Script Kiddie" attack. A user injected javascript into the page that replaced our wallet addresses with a single one: Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu (http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu).

Though we patched the vulnerability within minutes, they did manage to siphon away 177 LTC. We are refunding all these transactions out of pocket, due to our oversight. As we've said before, we feel our integrity is much more valuable to our business than anything else, and want to work directly with our users to improve the site, and right any wrongs that occurred due to an oversight on our end. We appreciate your continuing understanding and support.

Please, if you have sent a payment to Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu (http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu), send in a support email and get your refund! (Support email address is in the FAQ section of our website)


Also, keep the suggestions coming!
Best Regards,
The Bit Potato Staff

Is it possible the javascript vulnerability had caused any other bugs with addresses? I sent one to your Hot Potato when it was at 13.5~, that was definitely yours (it's popped up several times in the past), and was unable to get the 'verifying payment' to show up.

Of course an email was sent, mind you I may have mislabelled the title as I didn't know about this JS attack until just now. Still waiting on my other refunds too. :(

Mind if I clone your website?

Now, on to more important issues. Bitpotato.com (http://Bitpotato.com) has just suffered from a small "Script Kiddie" attack. A user injected javascript into the page that replaced our wallet addresses with a single one: Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu (http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu).

Though we patched the vulnerability within minutes, they did manage to siphon away 177 LTC. We are refunding all these transactions out of pocket, due to our oversight. As we've said before, we feel our integrity is much more valuable to our business than anything else, and want to work directly with our users to improve the site, and right any wrongs that occurred due to an oversight on our end. We appreciate your continuing understanding and support.

Please, if you have sent a payment to Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu (http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Li9kkpAuRLP2dXdgyxtgwDFPWE2V2s2Kzu), send in a support email and get your refund! (Support email address is in the FAQ section of our website)


Also, keep the suggestions coming!
Best Regards,
The Bit Potato Staff

Very impressed with the way you handled this. Haters will hate but you run a legitimate operation.

Random suggestion: maybe a little difficult to code for, but having some type of randomized event would be fun. E.x. a special leprechaun potato pops up for a few seconds, and the leprechaun potato has a long(er?) timer and can only be clicked/purchased when it randomly appears.

This looks pretty interesting....Are there still issues with people buying a potato only to find out that someone else has at the same time or have these teething problems been ironed out now?

So this is supposed to be a gambling site or what

COMPLAINT STATUS : UNRESOLVED

Before it comes flooding in, I'm foolish for even trying this site, I know. Sadly, I didn't realise it was so easily exploitable. For the final hour (maybe 2) of my ownership of the God's Little Potato, which I paid 109 LTC for, a bot or person clicked it continually to prevent anyone from buying it, with no intention of paying for it.

Not only that, but I also received ZERO in the form of a consolation, and should have received roughly 70-75 LTC back based on their 50% of total profits since last reset calculation. It says on their log that I received 17 LTC consolation (which is 50% of what, exactly?) but my wallet begs to differ.

I have various screenshots as evidence which I have submitted to them by email in the form of a formal complaint. I will edit this post accordingly with how it is dealt with.

It's a highly flawed system as it stands right now. They need to work on the lock out timer. Non-payers should suffer consequences of some kind, such as an IP ban.

Everything has worked fine for me.  Received my payout while the next buyer's purchase was still verifying.  I was honestly surprised at how quick it was.

Not sure how the recent hacking affected this though.  Haven't played yet today.

The consolation is a total joke. It seems as if the owners give you 50% of what they want to regardless of the profits made on that potato since it last expired.

I can vouch for bitpotato being legit. I got kind of pissed yesterday because I got greedy and bought in at 109 LTC. I stayed around the lower end ones and i made 30 back at the end of the day. but that is my fault for not understanding the system entirely. You guys are running a good operation though. Keep up the good work and keep ironing the bugs out! Thanks!

bitpotato your competitors are timing out your potatoes to advertise their URL's...

this, clearly using a bot too, locking them all down....

Hi there,

Yesterday i thought i bought the silver potato, because it said i could do my payment and it would be mine.
So i did.
After payment, a different name showed up, my LTC's were gone and no refund was obtained.

I've sent you guys an email about the issue yesterday, but i did not receive anything back yet.

Status: 380 confirmations
Date: 3, 05, 13 02:23
To: btpto LTaPMdDkFPkSkhcvUobMGUAXEfDeBCkkGM
Debit: -21.97 LTC
Transaction fee: -0.1 LTC
Net amount: -22.07 LTC
Transaction ID: 840887814e2c5bbe9cba1a57cb9dc441f4029a6a6352e8815a382188de25e039

http://ltc.block-explorer.com/tx/840887814e2c5bbe9cba1a57cb9dc441f4029a6a6352e8815a382188de25e039

It would be nice if you guys could take a look at it and refund my LTC's to LZyR6rwdxVtatPcbpFYim8oGbQ3iMtXL8h

Hope to hear from you, greetings!
Faaz

Please prevent this spamming.  Probably not gonna buy any potatoes until it's fixed.

I recently noticed that the amount of time for awaiting payments has dropped from 7 minutes to 5 minutes.

Can we at least get a notice before you change something like this?  Due to the limited amount of time I wasn't able to send the funds and didn't manage to get my potato.

We award 50% of the profits we made for that round, no more, no less. We invite you to do the math yourself. We do not take a very large commission. We also do not make profits off the last person playing the game, as their payment goes to the previous buyer, we take the same commission like any other sale during that round. The only sale we make a profit on is the first one, which we have been trying to keep around 10 LTC.

I recently noticed that the amount of time for awaiting payments has dropped from 7 minutes to 5 minutes.

Can we at least get a notice before you change something like this?  Due to the limited amount of time I wasn't able to send the funds and didn't manage to get my potato.

The math doesnt work out. You make a profit on every sale, a potato gets sold at 250% profit and 100% profit goes to the seller of the potato. Who profits off the remaining 150%?

I would like to note that we had zero affiliation with whomever was attacking bitpotato.

If you've been IP banned from the site, then you may share an IP with someone who was hammering the locking mechanism. It's not petty, its an automatic ban.

(PS - how would we know from a simple get request that you own bit potato, and then use that information to ban you? it doesnt make sense)

Also having issues (have emailed support@bitpotato.com)
I bought a potato...
It sold before the timer ran out..
according to the previous owners log it wasn't bought and I received 0 LTC consolation..

I seen that it did infact sell before the timer ran out.. so am rather annoyed with the fact I'm sitting here with no return..
Seen others have received a refund when their buys have been 'lost in limbo' so hopefully I get what I should have earned! (56.79 + 39.75 profit [or even just my original payment back! :(] )

.. I would have to 'follow' the others and say I don't think I'll be using the site again until they've ironed out the kinks!

(will update this post/post agan when I receive a reply and hopefully everything is sorted out!)

it's like a pyramid scheme.

So this is supposed to be a gambling site or what?   :'(I'm not clicking that like w/o a better description of what the heck this thing is.

So this is supposed to be a gambling site or what?   :'(I'm not clicking that like w/o a better description of what the heck this thing is.

They need to drastically lower the starting prices.  With such high starting prices the top row is worthless.  There are usually one or two purchases and then no one touches it.  It's a really predictable pattern.  It's really easy to determine which purchase will net you money, and which will not.  People will slowly stop buying potatoes above a certain threshold, and that threshold will slowly get lower and lower until no one even buys the top potatoes.

The bottom row is not as predictable, but it's still easy to detect patterns.  Again, they need to lower the starting amount on these.  There should be one or two potatoes where someone can get in without much of an investment.  I would love to see a potato which increments a fixed amount (maybe 1 LTC) but has a quick time.

then email admin@coinbomb.com then we can remove your IP.

Ban lifted. (and the reason for the ban was given)

I've opened up a private email conversation with the BP admin to resolve any outstanding issues.

Buy the gods potato at just 97 ltc. Receive 100% profit after resell, 194 litecoins back!!

If you buy the 3 hour potato even when it resets you have no chance of selling it. It's a great earner for the site but cmon guys this thing needs a rethink.

edit: tell a lie you may sell it but it seems in the last 2 days there's less than a 50% chance of doing so.

apparently someone told them that lower timers are a good idea.

If you buy the 3 hour potato even when it resets you have no chance of selling it. It's a great earner for the site but cmon guys this thing needs a rethink.

edit: tell a lie you may sell it but it seems in the last 2 days there's less than a 50% chance of doing so.

The 'user' who's payment address starts LhRXfDoDuN is a serious botter who's constantly screwing around with and locking up potatoes. cmon bitpotato you were supposed to ban these botters by now, this same guy seems to buy every potato.

I lock the potatoes on the last 5 minutes because they're just going to be locked by someone else before the timer runs out any ways. No point waiting around another 5 minutes. >.>;;

Since using bitpotato, coinbomb, and almost all the other game like this very frequently, I can honestly say that coinbomb is better and has their shit together more than bitpotato and the others.  On bitpotato, no one even buys the potatoes anymore past the 3rd and sometimes the 2nd purchase, so if you don't beat the bots when the reset occurs, you're going to lose money if you buy a potato.

Reasons Coinbomb is better:

•Unsuccessful locks will extend the main timer by the same amount of time.
•The verification process seems to go faster on coinbomb.
•The 24 hour timers are awesome and should stay that way.
•The amount remaining to pay is nice to see (because you can see if the person is actually trying to pay for it).
•It's way easier to get a bomb.
•The timers don't lag if you stay on the page for a long time.
•The one-time bombs that appear allow for a huge profit and are a nice change up.
•Supports LTC as well as BTC.

Coinbomb is amazing and seems all around more stable.  I hope things stay this great.

blatant post by a coinbomb employee reinorced by the fact you pasted this from the coinbomb thread. Who does that who doesn't have an agenda? So obvious.

I can't just be a person who is expressing an opinion, fuck me right?  I posted in the coinbomb thread as well to voice my opinion to them so they don't follow in bitpotato's footsteps and lower the timers/ruin a current good thing.  I love bitpotato and coinbomb both and use them regularly every day.  Bitpotato has personally paid me over 200 LTC to date and I have done my fair share of promoting the site to friends and telling people about bitpotato in the trollbox on btc-e as well.  I am no coinbomb employee and I was just stating bitpotato's faults in hope that constructive criticism is taken. Bitpotato was better when there were only 4 potatoes and the timers were at 24 hours. At first, I thought the 4 new potatoes were a great idea, but you can't tell me that the volume of potato sales has not went down ever since they added 4 more and lowered the timers.

The giveaway was needing to post in both threads. A thankyou and approval of coinbomb would involve posting in their thread and leaving it be. But because you are not just a user, but part of coinbomb, you had to go and paste it here too to try and lure customers away from bitpotato. And that is also why you are bothering to defend your 'position'. You know that, i know that. Stop the little game. All but one of your posts are coinbomb advertising. The more you try to lie the more proactive i will become.

If you buy the 3 hour potato even when it resets you have no chance of selling it. It's a great earner for the site but cmon guys this thing needs a rethink.

edit: tell a lie you may sell it but it seems in the last 2 days there's less than a 50% chance of doing so.

We are pleased to announce that all Potatoes now have a starting price of less than 2 LTC!

yeah well done guys, awesome update. Now if you can just stop the botters we will be in business (you can see just from the previous winners how it's the same guys, including the one i posted about on the previous page winning them all before anyone else has a chance).

edit: another glitch? flashes up to send payment to blah blah then it takes the opportunity away from me one second later and shows somebody else waiting for payment?

ip using LhRXHfDoDuNZbcjtzWcFQVQgGuzerHqNYp is killing it for everyone, 9 potatoes a day!?

I can literally click my mouse non stop for hour after hour pre-emptively waiting for verifications to finish and i will never get the potato. i love the game, but the frustration of being beaten by a program someones written will cause me and others to leave and ultimately kill this site. When just the botters are left nobody will buy once the potato has reset because they wont sell it. Then they will leave too. Manual banning is not enough because it doesn't seem to be happening. A captcha or daily quota per ip would save customers and your business bitpotato, you have to realise this.

It's a little worse than that. The wallet id you are referring to belongs to the user name "BitPotato". I was on for a good part of the day yesterday/last night. They got every reset potato!

A captcha or daily quota per ip would save customers and your business bitpotato, you have to realise this.

Yeah that guy's a real tool (lolol)



While your moral crusade against 'Guzer' seems to be a little extreme, do realize the following:

- I use that address for BitPotato, CoinBomb, LTC Treasure, and other gambling games. Yesterday I won two potatoes, one of which did not sell. Today, I won a cheap spud, and am likely going to lose the Gold potato today, since someone is locking it out to prevent buyers.

- A more eloquent solution to the botting problem would be to give each address a cooldown. Have it so it can only be clicked every 100ms, and anything more wouldn't be accepted. Basically anything other than requiring a captcha. Those are frustrating to fill out themselves, let alone with a race to finish it.

- A program to auto-fill a captcha is an easy enough feat, and would only increase the distance between botters and clickers, easily destroying the website's thrill.

- Look into keyboard macros and having them simulate clicking when held down. I'm not a bot, I'm always there, but I'm not playing with a mouse either.

Do you not go by the username "BitPotato"? 

the other issue is, the botters seem to have an advantage when clicking on a potato that has finished payment verification vs those that have expired. now the starting price is so low those few non-botters that do win a potato when they have expired earn 2ltc at most. So the earnings have actually be skewed further in favour of the botters.

That's true, fighting the verification timer is annoying, because unless you know when that 6th verification goes though, it's really hard to focus your clicks for the full duration. Adding in a 'Finishing Payment' timer to give everyone a heads up would be handy? MOAR TIMERZ

Is this game for bots only or do I really have a chance to grab one of these? It says "Verifying payment..." and then jumps directly to "Waiting for payment...".... -.-

Yeah that guy's a real tool (lolol)



While your moral crusade against 'Guzer' seems to be a little extreme, do realize the following:

- I use that address for BitPotato, CoinBomb, LTC Treasure, and other gambling games. Yesterday I won two potatoes, one of which did not sell. Today, I won a cheap spud, and am likely going to lose the Gold potato today, since someone is locking it out to prevent buyers.

- A more eloquent solution to the botting problem would be to give each address a cooldown. Have it so it can only be clicked every 100ms, and anything more wouldn't be accepted. Basically anything other than requiring a captcha. Those are frustrating to fill out themselves, let alone with a race to finish it.

- A program to auto-fill a captcha is an easy enough feat, and would only increase the distance between botters and clickers, easily destroying the website's thrill.

That's true, fighting the verification timer is annoying, because unless you know when that 6th verification goes though, it's really hard to focus your clicks for the full duration. Adding in a 'Finishing Payment' timer to give everyone a heads up would be handy? MOAR TIMERZ

3) The consolation for the Silver portato is 15%, I paid 21.53, but received as consolation only 1.05LTC.

Ever since the decrease in initial price I've been incredibly active on this site and having some great luck.  Awesome job guys!

From a technical aspect, I've analyzed the JavaScript of both Bit Potato and Coinbomb.  It's always interesting to see different ways to approach the same problem.  I will have to say that BitPotato's code is better at ensuring you always have updated data, but at the cost of being more heavily dependent upon the server.  There are definitely ways I can see to avoid the "Duplicate winner" problems mentioned with the existing data.

I can also easily see ways to minimize the message sizes sent by both /potats and /grabit.  Especially with /potats; there seems to be a lot of unnecessary data being transmitted with every query.  If a lot of this data were served up by a different script (maybe query it every 5 minutes or so) and only the time critical data were served by /potats, you could see the message size decrease significantly, meaning less load on your server and much quicker responses.  Message size is everything when dealing with AJAX since these messages will be transmitted thousands and thousands of times.

One small change which I would suggest: consolation prize amounts is still really unclear.  I would say instead of showing a percentage, show the current consolation prize for the potato.  So, instead of a potato saying "40% consolation" it would display" Current Consolation: 3.1 LTC" or whatever.  This would clear up a LOT of confusion.

Faaz and matreciman, both guys with less than 6 posts. One of them with 1 post; saying "they refund me".

Come on bitpotato, you scammed people with the price change and now I think you are making fake accounts to clean your bad reputation.
Hope an admin check the IPs from where those "users" wrote; i bet it's the same as you.

Faaz and matreciman, both guys with less than 6 posts. One of them with 1 post; saying "they refund me".

Come on bitpotato, you scammed people with the price change and now I think you are making fake accounts to clean your bad reputation.
Hope an admin check the IPs from where those "users" wrote; i bet it's the same as you.

I've just PM'd a forum moderator and asked them to confirm for you that they both have unique IP addresses.

I don't think so. Coincidentally, I was the one who was holding the spud that you circled in your screenshot. Bitpotato refunded me completely, and while they may be having some issues regarding security I think they're a legitimate company.

About the "support email" I sent you a personal message on: May 12, 2013, 03:08:58 PM.

Faaz and matreciman, both guys with less than 6 posts. One of them with 1 post; saying "they refund me".

Come on bitpotato, you scammed people with the price change and now I think you are making fake accounts to clean your bad reputation.
Hope an admin check the IPs from where those "users" wrote; i bet it's the same as you.

We do not check private messages on the forum, please send an email to our support account, it can be found at the bottom of the FAQ on our website (http://bitpotato.com).

No, this time YOU are going to check your PM, and see what I wrote you. If you are part of BitPotato, you can foward it to the support team, if you have one.
And you should answer me here, in public.


Like I said, I don't care about the --"lost coins"-- but seems to be you care a lot about your reputation.
This thread is full of people with less than 10 posts ""praising"" the website.

I believe the politically correct term these days for ponzi scheme is "Multi-Level Marketing Programs".

Faaz and matreciman, both guys with less than 6 posts. One of them with 1 post; saying "they refund me".

Come on bitpotato, you scammed people with the price change and now I think you are making fake accounts to clean your bad reputation.
Hope an admin check the IPs from where those "users" wrote; i bet it's the same as you.

lol be quiet man you sound ridiculous. Just copy and paste your pm into an email and stop being a drama queen

Some strange behaviour from the site, the amount to pay on the 'potato is nearly yours!' screen just changed to a higher figure after a few seconds. I also got paid my ltc in two separate transactions? Not a problem but might be something you want to be made aware of.

If after having a problem with the website you were ignored, you would be angry too.

He already knows the problem, so I'm waiting for an answer.

I've just doubled my LTCs with the God Potato...I like it xD

thanks for the update, appreciated. is it normal right now that i often cannot click on a completely free potato - ie, the potato is almost yours message doesn't come up? i don't know what you updated since yesterday but i cannot click on any available potatoes now.

edit: yep i'm winning potatoes but no message comes up, i can tell because i just saw my ltc address waiting for payment when i hadn't even been notified!

Sorry, it takes a bit longer for the LTC address to appear because the javascript does extra verification before it displays the address now. I just locked a potato myself though, it just takes a bit more time. Let me add an indicator to make this clearer.

At least the way it's happening my end, the waiting for payment will easily reach zero before i have any clue it's awaiting my payment. The only way i was able to buy potatoes tonight was by checking the site on my phone simultaneously to see i had won it (by recognising my ltc address and using my transaction history to find the right payment address for that potato. On chrome the site will say verifying payment on the last person until the whole countdown runs down, even if thats an hour and a half after i or somoene else has been given the chance to buy it. The notification to pay simply never comes.

When you say the buttons are now more tolerant to mashing does that mean if we mash them we wont get penalised or we will? If i take what you said literally it means we can mash away but i'm surprised you would say that? Thanks.

yeah i just got told to buy a potato, paid within 30 seconds and it gave someone else an opportunity to buy it, which  meant i paid for them. i could not even see how long i had to pay because that doesn't come up anymore, i presumed it was 5 minutes because the pay screen only just flashed up. turns out it was less than 45 seconds. email sent to support!

I can't remember the last time I saw the message to buy a potato. Oh wait yes I do. Never.

I wish people would spread the load out to other games just like this. Such as coinbomb, or bitgrenade.

EDIT: Can you explain the temp ban mechanic that you mentioned earlier in this thread? Maybe I'm mashing the button too hard and I'm on the ban list or something.

I've just PM'd a forum moderator and asked them to confirm for you that they both have unique IP addresses. We are not scam artists, we did not make fake accounts, these are legitimate users trying to inform other users of their experiences with the site. Some of them even made forum accounts specifically to do so. Instead of trashing up our thread, we'd be happy to help sort out any issues you experienced over email. If you could send an email to our support account, which can be found on at the bottom of the FAQ on our website (http://bitpotato.com), we'll gladly assist you.

They are indeed from different IPs.

I have sent ltcs but i didnt get potatos. dont know why. so i wrote to support.
It lasts over 50 hours to get an answer and still i am waiting for refunds....
i know they have many things to do, but its nearly 3 days now i am waiting...
last answer was 20 hours ago - the are processing my refunds now.

i really hope i will get my money back.

i love this game and if i get my refunds i wont stop playing.

+1

just timed that it took exactly three minutes for me to be notified to send payment after clicking on the potato once the last round ended. it's really bad guys it leaves very little time to get the payment to you to verifying status before it times out...

people posting these things need to start getting banned

Dear Bitpotato owner and friends,

Does anyone know the odds involved in this kind of "Hot Potato" game?

I mean: at least an estimation about the gambler's odds and the house's odds.

It seems that game is not 50/50, right?

Is it, at least, +EV (positive expected value) for the gambler?

Is there any documentation about that topic around?

Maybe that could be included in the FAQ section.

How much do the people who run these programs make?

Shouldn't his be under gambling section?

any update guys? eta on v.2. of the site? Current site is dead as a dodo and no tweet or anything to reassure people so they ever come back, is this wise?