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Just stop trolling, people, ok? If you want to buy at 15 satoshi, post you offer and wait for a seller.
My offer stands.
WTS @ 100 satoshi. Min 1M.
Over 5M — 80 satoshi
Over 10M — 70 satoshi
PM for quick response.
My offer stands.
WTS @ 100 satoshi. Min 1M.
Over 5M — 80 satoshi
Over 10M — 70 satoshi
PM for quick response.
Trolling ... this is business! Is the guy opposite in a business negotiation a troll? You're a bit too sensitive for this 'game' I think.
When someone in business calls 'troll' rather than offering a counter argument it shows they're a bit rattled.
Buyers hold the line, you don't need to pay 100 sats!
dzarmush has avoided attempting to reconcile his choice for a starting price for Qora of 100 sats, and the obvious problem that implies for new comers seeking to have a chance of making a decent return, and thus how Qora gets a community going.
He is saying my case for a 'starting' price of ~15 sats on the Qora price 'ladder' is obviously false, because I'm trolling, which looks a bit weak.
Good one dzarmush, now you can avoid trying to explain how Qora can grow a community when newcomers have next to no chance of making a decent return. Without a community you don't have Qora, and 150 guys isn't a community, and 100 sats at the bottom wont get you one in time before Qora dies on the vine.
I'm making a case using reason and recent history that your 'bottom rung' price on the Qora 'ladder' of 100 satoshi is too high to grow a community, and ultimately very damaging to Qora. You might disagree with my opinion but it's hardly trolling.
I know from experience people have different expectations about what represents a good deal, and many will see 10 satoshi as a good return, and if buyers stop and think. they'll realise this is a buyers market, and they'll hold off on getting caught in a bidding war with other buyers.
If buyers hold for a week or two SOME IPO guys will take a x10 return, and the starting price for Qora will be well below 100 satoshi. That's good for Qora, and good for me, and I'm trying to convince other buyers to think the same. It's business.
If your only argument is, 'he's a troll', it shows you have no answer to my reasoning. I put it down to NXT 73 fever.
Of course the Qora IPO guys have been mentally processing the idea that maybe this is a repeat of NXT, and so you're all going to get rich. Well for that to happen you need ~1500 people to buy into Qora in the next 10-14 days.
Calculate your return on the IPO for 100 sats, and then consider the likelihood that Qora can reach a marketcap of 45 Million USD in 1-2 months, which would give me a x10 return.
I think if anyone does both those calculations they can see your IPO return will be massive, and the next batch of Qora investors (i.e. guys like me) will probably get burned to a crisp when Qora crashes.
My current conclusion is your desire to repeat NXT founder history has clouded your thinking.
You need people like me to buy Qora much more than I need people like you to sell it to me. Why? Because history and experience tells me Qora wont reach 45 Million USD marketcap within 9-12 months (maybe never), so chances are I won't make even x10 profit if I buy at 100, but you'll still make a massive profit (what is it by the way, I bet you have calculated it), so in this negotiation you have both the capacity to move in my direction, and the need.
Buyers can cool their heels and wait for more realistic sellers to enter the market
I repeat, this is a buyers market.
If you are here to buy keep your powder dry and wait - don't think the price is going to shoot up - no need for a panic buy if the starting price is 100 satoshi.
In 2 weeks if the Qora community is still ~150 people there will be a fire sale. Why? Because x10 return will be enough for some people, and they'll be scared Qora could die before they get a chance to convert it into bitcoins.
All reasoned arguments and opinions, not wishful thinking, or 'don't listen to this guy, he's a troll.
WTB 20 Million Qora @ 15 satoshi
+1
Righteous post! Remember the three D's
distribution
distribution
distribution
No need for a marketing fund yet, the best marketing right now is a decent price that doesn't make the founders look like greedy pricks.
1 bitcoin in the IPO got about 85 Million coins
85 Million @ 100 satoshi is 85 bitcoins - x85 return
Buyers market for sure
The problem is Qora has a very limited distribution (almost as bad as NXT in November 2013), and the only reason NXT progressed was the NXT founders sold great wads of NXT dirt cheap for weeks & months (still are really). 
