Heh, I had forgotten about this... I remember when I got on of these AC things, and THEN read on the foruns about all the dead DVIs. Boy was I careful installing the thing!

Oh, and btw, the little VRM cooler isn't just held by thermal paste, it gets 2 screws from the back plate if memory serves me well.

He didn't almost certainly. And yes, the pads seem more of a protection than anything else, the backplate is securely screwed on to the heatsink and a little bending could do much damage without the pads.

Also, for mining it's kinda moot, you'll probably do just fine with no memory thermal padding on either side. It really barely touches the ram.


And at least some 5870 have it too, though I'm almost sure it's mostly protection agains bending the PCB with with increasingly heavy heatsinks screwed on the other side.

I've had (and some killed) Saphire, ATI, XFX and PowerColor 5970s, all reference, all with backplate. Also, the AC depends on the stock backplate to be properly installed.

I have received the cards, brand new as advertised, seller sent first. 5 stars communication, great seller.

Payment sent.

If the fan goes 100% and down down (but not stopped) the GPU if passing POST, so not completely dead. Are there any red lights on top?

Is that including shipping? Europe, btw.

disclaimer: it's quite late here and I'm almost at the end of a 2 week intense deadline, so take my words with the appropriate amount of salt


I beg to differ regarding your statement that you will not eat all of the costs. In hindsight it makes a lot less sense than I though it did when I wrote it.

The one extra coin you are asking is fair, I didn't say it isn't. What I said was that I was already over my budget, yours would be the most expensive 5870 I'd buy, a good part of the total cost would be just for shipping and as such I was in one of those situations where after I made my proposal I would stick by it, but regretted the commitment the moment after I clicked 'post'.

You made it easy for me, asking for that extra coin. It's just one coin, it's fair, but it is nonetheless one more coin on a price I already think is too steep, so thanks, but no thanks.

PS: there was a time when marking as 'gift' would work, nowadays all 'gift' marked items get verified and if they think the item has any value I either have a receipt for it (which is stupid, if it's a gift, but hey) or they charge for whatever they decide the 'fair market price' is. Complete morons!

I beg to differ Nevermind then, I was already pushing my well defined price limits on this one. You are correct, the int'l shipping makes it too expensive and on top of that coming from outside Europe I may end up paying taxes when going through customs, not worth the trouble at that price.

Good luck, though, it's a very nice mining card, already have one of those!

22 btc, you cover shipping to Europe? PM me if you want to know exactly where.

I apologize if this has been answered before, I can only read back so much

What is the expected final price for the 1 and 2 fpga boards when they hit the market? (I assume this will be a max price and the price will be based in $ not BTC).

Also, paying the pre-order in BTC today, will that count as BTC when the final payment is due or as $50?

Unless you factor in the electricity and heat dissipation as part of the whole equation. I know both are a real burden for me as I'm at the limit of what I can use and still keep the family happy (like, they can still use the microwave oven ), and I live in a warm climate which already killed a few cards for me.

But winter will come and heat is needed and appreciated, electricity cost is offset by that...

Of course, a great point to GPUs is that they have a used market value regardless of bitcoins. I don't foresee or prepare for a major bitcoin crash, but what would I do with a bunch of very expensive custom built asics? Even half broken GPUs have a market value.

Sent you a PM a few days ago...

So the exchange is based in Slovenia, wire transfer in SEPA zone are possible and yet it uses USD as BTC counterpart? This is a bit awkward.

What are you going to use for exchange rates in EUR vs USD?

I'm still in the market for itunes US gift cards. Quote me on a $20?

I think that a quick glimpse at the forum threads shows how much this can never be true in this particular community

If I didn't know most of us are either geek zealots or teenager skr1pt k33dz, I would almost bet we were all pregnant women on some hormonal rush!

Would it still be a good deal, though? Say, for a (realistic) example, I need €120 on amazon.de, how many btc would you be charging?

Will you ship to Europe?

How about non US amazon sites? I'm interested in both co.uk and de

$15 or $10000, it's all the same.

Then along comes joeminer who has bills to pay, and needs cash quick, so a new sell order of $14.99 goes in. But maryspeculator fears that a bank run is imminent so she puts an order of $14.95. Of course there's always johndoe who has grown tired of waiting to get rich quick out of bitcoins and decides to sell all for $14.00 and just invest in hairspray instead...

You see where I'm going The market sets the price, not the sellers. Of course speculators with funds can work both sides and effectively steer the market one way or another, but just saying "lets all not sell for less than X" is actually dangerous, what if no one is interested in buying at X? How long will everyone wait until the market slows to a halt? Or everyone panics and the joeminer story starts again?

Oh, and I added maryspeculator to add some spice to the story, I have no reason to believe a single human being of the feminine gender is trading bitcoins

But, but, but...

They have a flashy video, and webinars and even web 2.0! They HAVE to be legit!