How about instead of ad hominem attacks you actually read through his 9000 lines of code already written and find something concrete to criticize? Wouldn't that be more relevant and productive than questioning his capability based on a brief observation? And why not encourage him to try and fail if nothing else, it's not like his failure will be forced upon anyone else but his success might be good for a lot of people, no?
jgarzik and others have raised very good points on why his failure does have the potential to do a lot of harm to others. Splitting the network with incompatible implementations is a very real risk and does have the potential to harm everyone in the community. In addition bad PR from software failures affects us all. It was not my intention to defend MatthewLM, he can clearly do that on his own, or to suggest he should be automatically trusted with your contribution just because he says nice things. Of course his background and history are important and should be questioned. All that I didn't appreciate is the manner in which Gavin did so. As for any dangers of his failures I simply don't understand how a project with open code could ever implement or cause someone else to implement code that could cause any real harm. Actually if it did happen I think I'd have to welcome that sort of split because it would signal that the market isn't happy with the original client or is more happy with a new client. As long as the use of any code is voluntary there should be no problems for the future of Bitcoin, no? |
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If you want to solve the problem of more people learning about Bitcoin IMO you should focus on the teaching part instead. It's actually what I'm thinking about/researching right now. It might not feel like it but there really isn't all that much of easily digestible easy to understand info out there for the everyday ordinary non geek user.
We could ask Salman Khan to make a video about bitcoin on Khan Academy. If anybody can explain hard stuff in a palpable way, it's him. He has a background in economics, seems into sciency stuff and is definitely into open projects for the community, so he might be interested. Then again, maybe bitcoin is too risky/speculative for him to want to put it on his website.... EDIT: hell, it might be worth the try. I suggested the topic on the website. That's a really good idea, he really is excellent for explaining stuff. I hope your suggestion is heard. I might also write an email and see if I can get a hold of him. |
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I am currently studying Enterprise Development BA at the University of Huddersfield and I have a very exciting business idea for bitcoin that would make use of cbitcoin.
So... please don't take this the wrong way, but what's your prior experience creating and shipping high-quality software? I ask because re-implementing Bitcoin as a first "software-people-other-than-myself-are-going-to-use" project is a really bad idea, I don't see any list of previous work at the RocketHub page, and the 9,000 lines of code you've already written doesn't look like the work of somebody who has professional software development experience (e.g. no makefile/build system ...). Maybe you're a prodigy and will get it right the first time, but you're already at 'cbitcoin 2.0' because you weren't happy with how 'cbitcoin 1.0' was turning out. See the solidcoin/microcash saga for an example of how over-promising "1.0/2.0/3.0" releases destroys confidence. And maybe you CAN point to some other successful software you wrote and shipped when you were 17, in which case I'll shut up and leave you alone. What's the matter Gavin, can't take a little competition? How about instead of ad hominem attacks you actually read through his 9000 lines of code already written and find something concrete to criticize? Wouldn't that be more relevant and productive than questioning his capability based on a brief observation? And why not encourage him to try and fail if nothing else, it's not like his failure will be forced upon anyone else but his success might be good for a lot of people, no? Btw I'm posting this not because I have anything against your work on the original client but because I can't understand the nature or goal of your post. If it was to save people from investing into something that might not yield a positive result, I would have wished you didn't need to resort to manipulative fallacies to do so. |
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I don't understand, you'd like to help people overcome the challenge of understanding Bitcoin by giving them a few gratis bitcoins for completing a quiz/survey?
Stranger things have happened. The goal is to incentivize learning. My 2 cents? You're looking at this the wrong way. I don't believe you need to incentivize learning about Bitcoin because I'm certain there already is a high demand for this. If you want to solve the problem of more people learning about Bitcoin IMO you should focus on the teaching part instead. It's actually what I'm thinking about/researching right now. It might not feel like it but there really isn't all that much of easily digestible easy to understand info out there for the everyday ordinary non geek user. Even with the best examples of good learning material you most likely need some CS knowledge if you want to have a firm grasp on what you're doing and how it works. So if you ask me, forget about trying to get people to learn about Bitcoin and just help them learn about Bitcoin. |
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I don't understand, you'd like to help people overcome the challenge of understanding Bitcoin by giving them a few gratis bitcoins for completing a quiz/survey?
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Therefor I'm locking this thread. |
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However, on cannot get any tangible benefit from the appreciation of some Bitcoin without eventually spending it.
Which is also the main purpose of bitcoins - a medium of exchange - and is the one most important fact most who mistakenly believe that "hoarding is bad" forget or just don't understand. |
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Yeah it's a pretty decent one. |
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It breaks my heart when I read this story while being 100% certain that in the end the solution to all these problems will be found in violence that caused the problems in the first place i.e. in a small gang of thugs enforcing arbitrary rules through violence robbing people of their freedom and wealth i.e. a democratic government. Will they ever learn?  Greece is the great-grandparent of the very concept of the modern State. They have repeated the same poisonous charade for about three thousand years, failing again and again. Three thousand years. That's 300 generations of humans, doing the same destructive shit over and over, like lunatics, unaware that the very thing they worship is what keeps destroying them. I do not hold any hope that they will learn. In fact, I think they'll just murder each other, completely oblivious to what really ails their society, as the rulers who engineered this disaster and profited from it quietly laugh all the way to the European Central Bank. For those who defend the State with cries of "what about the poor": tell us, o magnanimous examples of generosity with other people's money, what about the poor now, as the State inevitably collapses? Well said. |
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I agree that bitcoin would be worthless without the ability to trade them for something else, but technically, if there were no sellers, then bitcoins could maintain their value without any trade in them...
For fuck sake listen to yourselves, what you are saying is batshitinsane. Everyone will want bitcoins which will make them worthless?! Don't you see how retarded that sounds? Why would everyone want something that is worthless? Why would something everyone wants be worthless? That was not what I was saying at all... Thanks for calling me an insane idiot though... Yeah I'm sorry for my brainfart. |
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Just opening up both homepages I'd say I like the Indiegogo interface better but I like Rockethub more because of the activity ticker. But this is purely superficially speaking and I think I'd try to figure out which one is more popular and go with that one.
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We're going sideways since about 7 hours. Awaiting a nice 5K dump. Or 10k?
Wouldn't you agree we're going sideways for a a few weeks now? |
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This austerity plan is crap and is going to aggravate the problem. It's like using leeches to cure sickness, it only makes the problem worse. When the economy is bad, that's when government have to inject money and subsidize their citizens so they can live through it. When the economy gets better and is growing, that is the moment where you pay your debts and you make savings. It's the whole point of a government, it's to serve, protect and help their citizens. If the economy is booming, government help can be superfluous, since people can make it by themselves with the tons of opportunities. But when the country is in crisis, the government has to back you up. Now, because they're cutting everywhere, they have judges who work 1h a day, tons of unemployed people and a population without any hope. It's the perfect formula for an armed revolution. You cannot manage a country like you manage a business, but sadly, that's what they're trying to do.  What a bunch of garbage this post is.  I'm not even going to attempt to point out all the sophistry and idiocy in it. |
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Before I invest in this service need some opinion.
Why not do it simply because it's a superior/cheaper method of accepting payments, advertise it and let the dice fall where they may? I mean it's not like it would cost a fortune to implement. |
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It breaks my heart when I read this story while being 100% certain that in the end the solution to all these problems will be found in violence that caused the problems in the first place i.e. in a small gang of thugs enforcing arbitrary rules through violence robbing people of their freedom and wealth i.e. a democratic government. Will they ever learn? |
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This is really awesome to hear.
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Having now had my business destroyed by Nefario and GLBSE, who now seem to be refusing to release the little information I need to rebuild it, I really don't know don't know what to think.
Think about what/who? |
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Man I hate this story and of course it's all over the yellow pages, they just can't resist a story of a stupid guy doing something stupid and pinning it on Bitcoin just because it happened to be his preferred choice of payment. I wonder if they'd talk about any "questions raised about cash" if he happened to have demanded to be paid in unmarked bills instead.. Actually I don't because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't.
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No. I refuse to worship any man because no man is infallible. Plus it's not like he was the only one who told you so (my ignore button used to be white until I started warning people about pirate).
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