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1141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 07:18:46 PM
I haven't figured out a good way to present these 2 different mining options together without confusing the user.
Dropdown with "Pool" and "Solo" options, with a URL input for the pool getting disabled when solo is selected?

Yeah, that probably makes most sense. Thanks for the suggestion. This will work well when we also support p2pool.
1142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 07:14:12 PM
Just spent the last couple hours incorporating Matoking's ScryptMiner minerd GUI with the Litecoin client.
It's a new mining tab that let's you start/stop/configure minerd to run against any pool.
You need to make sure that the minerd executable and libraries are in the same directory as the Litecoin-QT application.

Let me know what you guys think. And thanks to Matoking for creating the original GUI.

https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-client-0.5.0.3.zip
Works perfect but I'd appreciate an option to hide it Smiley (also you didn't remove mining from options)

How about if I put it at the right most tab? Would that be just as good as having an option to hide it?
I will work on combining the mining from options with this mining tab.
1143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Fantastic upgrade.

*edit - I notice that if I run my mouse over the hammers while I am mining, the client tells me that I am not mining.  Small bug I'm sure.

Yes, that status is only hooked up the the internal miner. I need to hook it up to the poll miner info, but I haven't figured out a good way to present these 2 different mining options together without confusing the user.

Neat implementation, and thanks for fixing the application launch on non-Windows OSes, didn't know about that. Tongue

I would probably try cleaning a few things if it wouldn't be for the fact that Litecoin isn't compiling for me (seems to be something in the project file that was modified back in the bitcoin-qt fork)

Matoking, if would be great if you can fork your own Litecoin repo, make your changes, and submit a pull request. What were you thinking of doing? I was going to work on adding an "full log" checkbox that would switch the output to exactly what minerd prints out. This will be useful for advance users that want to see the full output.
1144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 08:08:15 AM
Just spent the last couple hours incorporating Matoking's ScryptMiner minerd GUI with the Litecoin client.
It's a new mining tab that let's you start/stop/configure minerd to run against any pool.
You need to make sure that the minerd executable and libraries are in the same directory as the Litecoin-QT application.

Let me know what you guys think. And thanks to Matoking for creating the original GUI.

https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-client-0.5.0.3.zip
1145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 07:46:00 AM
Litecoin version 0.5.0.2 has been released with the new Litecoin logo.

Windows client: https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-client-0.5.0.2.zip
Nice one coblee, all though the icon is just a small grey blob in the captionbar ;-)

Yeah, the icon doesn't look quite right when it's resized to a small icon in the captionbar. I'm not sure if there's a way to tell it to use the smaller icon. I will look into it.
1146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 04:39:54 AM
Litecoin version 0.5.0.2 has been released with the new Litecoin logo.

Windows client: https://github.com/downloads/coblee/litecoin/litecoin-windows-client-0.5.0.2.zip
1147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 25, 2011, 12:13:42 AM
Awww man my logo woulda looked SWEET on that wallet image!

If you create that image for me, I might consider using it for the testnet splashscreen!
1148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 24, 2011, 11:50:26 PM
Thanks everyone for helping me design the Litecoin logo!

Here are the final images that BitcoinPorn helped me create for the client. And they look great!

wallet splashscreen:


main icon: (still deciding whether to use the lighter or the slightly darker one)


main icon for testnet:


toolbar icon:


toolbar icon for testnet:




All the rewards are paid out:

Sent 50 LTC reward for submitting logo design:
michaelmclees - f5c13f042d1166cfa116934e0311ae4afaf7ecd4e548dd181e87283579ee0138
ElectricMucus - 92336a1b924b484f23e5922fc5ae146088d5cca50cc3d76904a5bccb14b07e89
BitcoinPorn - 6c69dc8267204a7cdbfdca9f9764bc1ad378a0c0d7fcdade18ccaac05e873272
pbj sammich - b0c62ec369abb1bd4a0de8bd1a6302eda19981a13d9415fd346971e52d2a56f8
kano - d245becc42c1f4330693f8057bb4158e0089eb8c1b7a5a806a2509f3b5442ba4
Matoking - 4da59f45dee163e31eee58ed93b57b3a6e845f3f5f804124846637735a55ab06
dvdrewritable - de599722ad56c9dcb719ec9334def9e4b613bffa9beb1b8899cfe605e8c2feae
chieffery - 96f610806451fe4a2ea510ca3a3f625a6fc41a36c2032342eee980b505e81645
EskimoBob - 74ac2e7479e75f9f412803b1a31001bf16b5d1b255e76ac656aeca4161f41746

Sent 300 LTC reward for winning logo design:
BitcoinPorn - ef045f23cfa2b98675eff8a131d5c9d639fd29bc133084abee8731c285fcc435

1149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 24, 2011, 11:32:03 PM
The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg587882#msg587882

A similar but opposite feature I'd like work on is for each client to be able to act as a node in a distributed pool.
Something like p2pool: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
Either add a UI for the client to kick off p2pool. Or code up p2pool (or something similar) in C++.
The former will be much simpler, but would be hacky, because litecoin will start/stop/configure p2pool via python scripts, and p2pool will talk to litecoin via RPC calls on localhost.
The latter would be much nicer because the client will communicate with different nodes on the same p2p network as the block chain communication, but it would take considerable amount of work to implement it.

+1  nice! the latter. maybe something could be done in the interim and hold back the c++ implementation for a future release.

Yeah, maybe the interim version is just the UI to start/stop/configure p2pool.
1150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 24, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Having pool options I guess could be necessary, using SolidCoin's drop down as an example, I would not include the names of any specific pools at all and rather just link to a landing page set up to pull recent pool info and activity.

If we want to go the route of a dropdown for pool selection, I was thinking along the lines of defining each pool in a separate pool-[name].conf file and have the client read all those files and populate the pool selection. This way, pools can release their .conf file that users can download. Maybe that's overkill... not sure yet.
1151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 24, 2011, 11:24:56 PM
The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg587882#msg587882

Sounds like a great idea.  Would you be able to include an easy way for people to switch between different flavours of minerd optimized for different CPUs ( like http://www.wuala.com/jbw9/pub/Bitcoin/Tenebrix/miner/win/ ),  maybe something like the way guiminer for Bitcoin enables this (doesn't need to be tabs for different versions of minerd, I guess it could be a drop-down selection or something)?

Does that mean you want the client bundled with like 10 different versions of minerd?
With Matoking's GUI, you include your own minerd binary and it will use that.
1152  Other / Archival / Re: EDITED TITLED: Solidcoin 2.0 GPU CUDA Nvidia Miner by MaGNET in Alpha Test on: October 24, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
Just thought I'd mention the new SolidCoin Beta 7 is out now and working very nicely.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38674765/beta/solidcoin-201b7.exe

 Cool

Dropbox... professional... not scammy at all.

Seriously, I hope people don't download and run random binaries from other users. But then again, I don't even trust binaries posted by CoinHunter. But if you do trust CoinHunter, only run binaries that he posted.
1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: October 24, 2011, 08:08:58 PM
litecoin.org has now been moved to be hosted on github.com
litecoin.info will soon redirect to the new wiki at https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki
1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help me pick the Litecoin logo! (final round between 2 logos) on: October 24, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Looks like we will go with BitcoinPorn's logo. I will work with BitcoinPorn to add the logo to the client. Thanks everyone for voting.
1155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 09:44:45 AM
Interesting to note:

The scammer tag that terrytibbs has would be removed if he just refunded the buyers.

Seems a small price to pay.

I've talked to him about this, but seems like he doesn't agree in principle that he should pay back the money when he was also scammed by his supplier. Different people have different philosophies about how business dealings should be handled when things go wrong. And I don't have enough information and really have no right to judge him on this.

I also asked why he doesn't just get a different username on the forums. And he told me that he thinks that's not right to try to hide this from others.

So take that however you want.
1156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 09:35:31 AM
For the record, whether tibbs was immature, over zealous, or whatever else, it seems to me like he's not the kind of 'scammer' that deserves a "scammer" tag. Probably just another instance of "if it smells like smoke....DROWN IT".

I agree with you.  While I don't agree with his business decisions, I don't know much about the guy.  My only sure fact was that associating a labeled scammer with the main 3 domains lent itself to a terrible public image, regardless of surrounding facts.  That needed to change; why it took so much effort and had so much resistance is beyond me, but that's over now.

I felt that you didn't need to go on such an attack on terrytibbs and on me. Some of the stuff you said where uncalled for. Even though what you ultimately fought for was right (the fact that users would be worried that the person hosting litecoin.org has a scammer label), the way you went about it was pretty poor. Instead of going about it nicely, you made claims that were blatantly false and instilled a lot of hostility towards you and muddied your argument:

"everyone can make their own decision on whether or not they like to download binaries hosted by a proven scam artist"
- the binaries are not hosted on litecoin.org
- and terrytibbs is not a "proven scam artist." most people will agree that to be a scam artist, you need have intent to scam people. the terrytibbs "scam" is  more like he sold a used car that turned out to be a lemon (which he didn't know about) and he refused to accept returns. so buyers were stuck with the lemon and asked the mods here to label him as a scammer.

"litecoin domains run high risk of having links to malicious binaries"
- the fact that terrytibbs is labeled as a scammer for his past deals does not make it a "high risk" that he will change the litecoin website to link to malicious binaries.

And these personal attacks don't help:
"For personal reasons Coblee (litecoin dev) thinks he has better moral judgement than this entire community"
"Learn reading comprehension"
"shows a direct and complete disregard for the security of your users"
"Perhaps you just need a scapegoat so when you scam your entire user base"

Although I don't agree that having terrytibbs host the website is a high security risk, I do concede that it does not shine a good light on Litecoin when terrytibbs has a scammer label, whether valid or not. And people (like yourself) will immediately jump to the wrong conclusion when they see the scammer label. And I don't feel like dealing with threads like these in the future.

Well, it's behind us now. Please lock this thread.
1157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 08:19:40 AM
Yes, terrytibbs has offered me a few times to switch hosts if I thought his scammer label was an issue. Since I didn't think it was, I have not switched hosts. Plus there weren't anyone else that I trusted more than terrytibbs.

Anyways, since this seems like a big issue for some people, I will look into hosting the site with github for now. When we need something more that just a few static pages, I will figure it out then.

So, terrytibbs, please help me convert the webpages to static html. And I will have github host it. Github also has a wiki and we can move the wiki information there: https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki
1158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 06:44:25 AM
chieffery please ignore me too.  In fact why don't you just ignore everyone?

Everyone?  Oh you mean you and the 3 people defending a known scam artist?  How many of the BTC that he stole does he pay you to defend him?  We already know he pays coblee in free hosting services.

Good idea, I ignored you and the other people defending the scammer.

Please ignore me too. Since I'm defending a known scammer's ability to design and host the website.

chieffery please ignore me too.  In fact why don't you just ignore everyone?

Let's not let chieffery distract us from the real problem Litecoin is facing...

...we don't have a logo yet!  Shocked
So please vote! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49563.0

Yeah, you made it very clear that you don't care about the security of your users.

No, I was merely trying to bring some humor to this forum. I care very much about the security of Litecoin users. I've asked people time and time again to build their own client from source. I also went through the trouble of running WinXP in a virtual machine just so that I can compile the Windows client for you guys, since it's hard to trust anyone else to do this. I also spent a lot of time trying to build the Windows daemon myself. When I couldn't, I tried hard to find somone reputable (twobits) to do it. You don't know me that well. So don't claim that I don't care about the security of users.

And how well do you know terrytibbs? How can you say that "both the litecoin domains run high risk of having links to malicious binaries"? Just because he had a disagreement with how to handle a sale gone bad not due to a fault of his own, does that make it a "high risk" that he will link the website to malicious code? From my dealings with terrytibbs, I believe this risk is very very low that he would sabotage the website in that way. You would have to trust my judgement on that, similar to how people trust my judgment that twobits won't sabotage the Windows daemon.

And please don't make it sound like terrytibbs paid me to defend him with free hosting services. That's laughable.

Coblee: "I care very much about the security of Litecoin users."

aslo Coblee:  "the worst he can do is basically put a malware binary as the link to the Litecoin client download"

Yeah, sorry those two statement do not coincide. 


Sorry, but there's nothing contradicting about those 2 statements.

I can quote you too. chieffery: "Please learn reading comprehension"
Yeah, please do.

Did you not read that I believe the risk of him doing that is very very low? Just because that's the worst he can do, it doesn't mean he will do it.

Did you also not read that the Windows daemon is built by twobits? What do you think the worst twobits could do is? Yeah, he could do a lot worse. So why do you trust my judgement of character there?

I think I've said enough here and in the main thread. From my point of view, you definitely have a hidden agenda here or are just trolling. So I won't keep feeding you anymore.
1159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 06:12:31 AM
chieffery please ignore me too.  In fact why don't you just ignore everyone?

Everyone?  Oh you mean you and the 3 people defending a known scam artist?  How many of the BTC that he stole does he pay you to defend him?  We already know he pays coblee in free hosting services.

Good idea, I ignored you and the other people defending the scammer.

Please ignore me too. Since I'm defending a known scammer's ability to design and host the website.

chieffery please ignore me too.  In fact why don't you just ignore everyone?

Let's not let chieffery distract us from the real problem Litecoin is facing...

...we don't have a logo yet!  Shocked
So please vote! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49563.0

Yeah, you made it very clear that you don't care about the security of your users.

No, I was merely trying to bring some humor to this forum. I care very much about the security of Litecoin users. I've asked people time and time again to build their own client from source. I also went through the trouble of running WinXP in a virtual machine just so that I can compile the Windows client for you guys, since it's hard to trust anyone else to do this. I also spent a lot of time trying to build the Windows daemon myself. When I couldn't, I tried hard to find somone reputable (twobits) to do it. You don't know me that well. So don't claim that I don't care about the security of users.

And how well do you know terrytibbs? How can you say that "both the litecoin domains run high risk of having links to malicious binaries"? Just because he had a disagreement with how to handle a sale gone bad not due to a fault of his own, does that make it a "high risk" that he will link the website to malicious code? From my dealings with terrytibbs, I believe this risk is very very low that he would sabotage the website in that way. You would have to trust my judgement on that, similar to how people trust my judgment that twobits won't sabotage the Windows daemon.

And please don't make it sound like terrytibbs paid me to defend him with free hosting services. That's laughable.
1160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING Scammer hosting litecoin.info and litecoin.org on: October 24, 2011, 05:49:35 AM
chieffery please ignore me too.  In fact why don't you just ignore everyone?

Let's not let chieffery distract us from the real problem Litecoin is facing...

...we don't have a logo yet!  Shocked
So please vote! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49563.0
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