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1181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 11:47:09 AM
Elwar, can you repeat the story here that you've told here before, about a local bitcoin sale you did long ago, that did not go well?


Is that a real animal?

it looks like a juvenile of a species from the Galaxiidae family of freshwater fish ... native to NZ (and a few other s. hemisphere countries). Colloquially know as whitebait and considered a delicacy.
Ah, I've had whitebait before in Japan, although those were much much smaller which threw me off. Either that or the scale in the background is not 0.5 cm per square like I'm used to. Or perhaps NZ whitebait is overall larger the ones in Japan, or Japan uses them even younger. Uhh.
1182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 10:08:40 AM
Oooh that’s nice and bearish. Maybe the bottom is close after all.
Was about to say, time to take out another mortgage. Tongue


I don't think that any of us can deny that it is mainly whales pushing the price up and pushing it down.

This really has nothing to do with typical sentiment of the average user or some sort of good or bad news. Other than the fact that the whales may believe that the market will not fight them in one move or another as they swing things back and forth.

The key being, which way do these whales want the price to go? Well they are certainly not in bitcoin because they read the white paper and were inspired. They have balance sheets that need big profits.

We will see. I really do wish Wall Street would stay out of bitcoin. Bitcoin can grow without it, and will likely be around long after it.
Isn't the average user generally just a follower? As much as I'm sure that there are some, I can't think of an example where the average user/consumer actually drives anything without being coerced to do so in one way or another.
1183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 09:23:55 AM
If the drop were due to the ETF being delayed then shitcoins would not be dropping so much. Since it's BTC getting the ETF, not shitcoins.
Shitcoins have no fiat pairing. So if Bitcoin bleeds they bleed by default. The apparent fiat bleeding for shitcoins triggers people to flee the shitcoin markets to get out into BTC, fiat and/or stable shitcoins, which causes further collapse. Then once BTC starts climbing again, more shitcoin FOMO money flows into BTC, which is yet a third cause for shitcoins to collapse. There are as always exceptions, but they are manipulated, hyped, or just the ultra-rare coin that happens to have delivered something.

After this scenario we'll get to what the goose has claimed, namely the bull-run leading up to 2020 or whatever new current year.
1184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 02:01:47 AM
Is that a real animal?

The rest of it is connected to Rosewater's groin, so yes.
The stealth grapist.
1185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 01:37:46 AM
Elwar, can you repeat the story here that you've told here before, about a local bitcoin sale you did long ago, that did not go well?


Is that a real animal?
1186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 11, 2018, 12:44:35 AM
Would it be more appropriate to allow an exit window for those who want out? e.g. the escrows setup a buy back for a limited period of time where people can voluntarily choose to stay or go. The remaining holders can then follow Imed or Ton by vote.
Wouldn't it be better to just do a complete buyback (or as *complete* as it can be), and then let those people decide whether they want to re-invest in current or future endeavors by Ton or Imed? Both of them could run some sort of crowdsale once the mess is over. This gives everyone involved absolute freedom.
I second this.



Am I getting this tl;dr right by the way?

Nemgun's version: Tonbi changing the modalities of the original whitepaper and ICO proposal to a point where they have to split.

Tonbi's version: Nemgun can't code/doesn't deliver code and needs to deliver or leave.

Also, can someone confirm or deny?
Nemgun took 75 BTC out of his allocated X share.
Tonbi took ~600 BTC out of his allocated Y share. What are X/Y and how much of the paid money is left?




Without trying to jump the gun, sounds like Ton is the twat in this case unless he pays back what he took. If he spent it then he's an even bigger failure for spending funds before delivering, especially on that scale.



Edit: Asking about funds gets immediate kicks from Ton on Telegram. It seems pretty clear what is going on here, a slimy "CEO" with no skills of his own duping a dev with a potentially too grand vision. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I doubt I am as any decent person would admit to their failures without flailing around. In this case one person took millions of funds and either spent or hid them long before delivering without any intention of refunding what he already took (other than what is left in the escrow, how convenient).
1187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2018, 12:16:40 AM
I just wanted to let you all know, that I'm secure enough with myself to admit, that I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Bitcorn prices.

What a ride though. Crazy wild swings.

I can't imagine the financial carnage Bitcorn has caused people trying to play the markets.

isnt this what we signed up for? the wild ride?

i mean who wants to be bored.


I was getting bored, now I'm getting excited. Is Bitcorn trying to be a recreational substance?
1188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: July 05, 2018, 01:11:55 AM
Is there any place to catch up on any news?
1189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 25, 2018, 11:57:31 AM
take what? ...when everything is centralized then this whole space is gone wrong. :\ hmmm
Wealth has been, is and always will be centralized. It's called Pareto's law and it applies to pretty much every situation in nature and society, not just money. It's a fundamental and integral part of reality.

The appeal of Bitcoin isn't forced "equalization" of the monetary supply, but the impossibility of just arbitrarily pulling coins out of some fat turd's ass. Basically, centralization of funds is fine, centralization of full power over a system is not (the later is the problem with fiat and the former is a perfectly fine).
1190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 24, 2018, 03:09:28 PM
wow btc really hit usd$5900...


Yes, and I really am not convinced by the reaction from support on this dump. I suspect that we may see another test for lower.  Embarrassed
There are numerous bets in the altcoin market that are more sensible than betting on Bitcoin in the very short term. Especially since you can swing back into BTC once the trend finally reverses and thus increase your stash from multiple sources. Still wouldn't move my cold storage corns around though, that train left in winter.
If we actually near $3-4k territory I'll probably be liquidating some of my hardware and/or equity though for extra corn though.

wow btc really hit usd$5900...


Yes, and I really am not convinced by the reaction from support on this dump. I suspect that we may see another test for lower.  Embarrassed

next stop $2500? =) weee
Highly doubt it but I'll take it.
1191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 24, 2018, 01:55:16 PM
I think if someone tends to selling btc now is the same as buying between 18,000 - 20,000$.

RSI is now near the oversold levels and showing some indication of reversal, so what do you waiting for..just grab some btc now and thank me later Wink
All of the standard indicators that you have access to with commercial trading tools are going to be largely useless. After all, the people who create those types of indicators already have them priced in whilst also having much more sophisticated algorithms to raze down the hordes of people that use the publicly available indicators.
1192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 19, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
I fail to see how SegWit is confusing. It solved some problems and the plebs who would get confused by it don't really have to use it (or realize that they are using it).

And regardless, once mainstream adoption is actually possible everything will be so dumbed down that even knowing what SW or LN are will be completely redundant for daily use. Or rather, unless an understanding of the back-end becomes 100% irrelevant Bitcorns won't become mainstream.
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 18, 2018, 11:54:10 AM
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Ah one of those mid 2014 , Bitcoin can never go below $400 arguments.
Bitcoin will go as low as it takes to flush any weak, middle and semi-strong hands. This forum isn't even close to the "OMG Bitcoin is dead and I've lost my house" tears of December 14, Jan 15.   Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.

Exactly!. The rally can only begin if the term "bulltard" is consistently used for a prologend period of time. Period!

Nope, this won't work because you'll never see a bearish post from me. NEVER  Cool I guess I'm a bulltard..  Grin
You just used the term though, so I guess the next rally can just about begin? Roll Eyes

No, until we all bulltards get on the verge of suicide there won't be any rally. Just accept it.
Can you recommend a manufacturer of rope?
1194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 18, 2018, 11:07:01 AM
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Ah one of those mid 2014 , Bitcoin can never go below $400 arguments.
Bitcoin will go as low as it takes to flush any weak, middle and semi-strong hands. This forum isn't even close to the "OMG Bitcoin is dead and I've lost my house" tears of December 14, Jan 15.   Once every post in here is bearish and the bulls are laughed at, then and only then can the next rally begin.

Exactly!. The rally can only begin if the term "bulltard" is consistently used for a prologend period of time. Period!

Nope, this won't work because you'll never see a bearish post from me. NEVER  Cool I guess I'm a bulltard..  Grin
You just used the term though, so I guess the next rally can just about begin? Roll Eyes
1195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2018, 11:52:47 AM
WHO would be ready for weeks and weeks of green dildo's ?? ?? Huh
The GODL frog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31N892GN4Yk
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
fuck this shit! i sold everything at $6480

Too bad, so sad.

Can it go down further? Perhaps. Will it? Maybe. But sure as shit, it'll come roaring back, and you'll be out in the cold.

Hell, we were at this level just two months ago. Grow some stones, ninnies.
Did you nibble on some of the wrong mushrooms on your bearish adventures?
1197  Other / Off-topic / Re: Wall Observer - Off-Topic Discussion Thread on: May 24, 2018, 03:38:43 AM
Now that all the trolls are stuck in the other thread, we can begin doing some hardcore TA here.
But what about the page count? We need to increase it to raise the price of Bitcorns.
1198  Other / Off-topic / Re: Wall Observer - Off-Topic Discussion Thread on: May 23, 2018, 11:30:39 PM
I do not consent to this.
1199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: May 14, 2018, 12:57:27 PM
Does anybody know if/when public beta starts? Do we have to register for it?
Some people think on Wednesday (since the next Q&A session is on that day), but as far as I recall the open beta was guaranteed within May.
1200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2018, 11:18:15 AM
It looks like most people here is over 40? Noone (no matter which age) that didn't start using computers until the nineties? And absolutely no millenials here?

Interesting if that were the case.

No, several old-timers here have mentioned using Macs from 1979 & Commodore 64s from 1984.

Anyone else start out on a 166mhz pentium?

My first job was a point on the early n86's when chips were sx or dx (internal maths co processor)

Ofc years before I had all the same stuff mentioned here.

A spectrum that crashed if you touched the keyboard etc.   Cheesy

First game experience was a thing like big mac at an uncles house, it was a text driven game.

Did all those gaming sessions turn me brainy? its problem solving.

I was trying to keep my kids away from gaming too early, but now I have seen how quick they learnt to solve the puzzles. I am changing my mind.

Hand eye coordination, trying things that might work? all good eh?


 


I'm thinking of keeping mine away from schools and the internet while leaving games open. Of course, since they wouldn't know any better there'd only be a handful of games for them to play until they've matured enough to just let them loose online.

With the right games you're definitely bound to get more brainy though, my brother hasn't played in a try-hard kind of way as I have and there are marked differences between the two of us as a result.

But that's mostly down to attitude I would say (which I got from specific games that I didn't want to put down but that required you to keep trying to figure out how things work). So as long as a person is encouraged (through whatever means) to think up different scenarios and to compare them it'll most likely become second nature into adulthood.
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