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121  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-06-26 ITV: Hackney pub begins accepting cyber currency on: June 27, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
Very cool article.  I have an idea.  First inter-continental "buy a round " on BTC.  If you're outside of the UK, post here an amount you'd be willing to spend (maybe 2 pints?).   Set up a pool wallet and when we have enough, get a time and date and send it to the pub.  Extra points for a live video feed and the patrons holding up a "Thanks, bitcointalk.org!" sign.  

I'll start it off with whatever the cost is for three pints at that pub.  Could JohnK or someone make a wallet for this?

Here's the pubs Facebook account.  I don't have FB but maybe someone here can contact Luke Parker to set this up.

https://www.facebook.com/PemburyTavern
122  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Butterfly Labs refusing refunds? on: June 27, 2013, 12:29:32 AM
You cant get refunds because BFL is a scam.

I've bought/sold almost a dozen FPGA Singles since BFL started selling them.  Only one had a fault.  I called up and was walked through the "did you check this?" process with tech support.  They had me ship back the faulty unit and had a replacement out within a week.  I have a trade-in for three of my remaining singles, first one just arrived a few days ago.  It's purring along at 58-59Ghz as I type.

Would I have been happier with this unit six months ago?  Absolutely.  Are they a scam?  Absolutely not. 

If you have other proofs, I'd be glad to hear them. 
123  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] IN HAND 6 BFL FPGA's 3.5 BTC Each (NOT ASIC) only 832mh/s (around 4.9GHZ) on: June 26, 2013, 08:31:45 PM
I would buy these up - if they could be reprogrammed to do something like password strength analysis or folding@home/SETI.  Anyone find out if BFL is planning on doing anything with these old FPGAs?
124  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [12000 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: June 25, 2013, 07:32:29 PM
Down again... Huh
125  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [12000 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: June 24, 2013, 09:57:26 AM
Stratum error messages across the board over here.  We under attack again?
126  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: ASIC not working for me on: June 24, 2013, 02:22:02 AM
It is giving me the message--  BitForceSc detect (2:1) Warning unknown firmware 'FIRMWARE: 1.2:40x00'     
I did use zadig and changed the driver.

Got the same message, updated from git hub, recompiled, now it just hangs at "starting 3.2.2".  Using Debian.  Any solutions?

Disregard.  Fat fingered the port number on stratum.  Carry on.  Grin
127  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: ASIC not working for me on: June 24, 2013, 01:49:11 AM
It is giving me the message--  BitForceSc detect (2:1) Warning unknown firmware 'FIRMWARE: 1.2:40x00'     
I did use zadig and changed the driver.

Got the same message, updated from git hub, recompiled, now it just hangs at "starting 3.2.2".  Using Debian.  Any solutions?
128  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
All right.  This thread has crashed and burned into a hot mess of name calling and nonsense.  Can I lock this thing or does a mod have to do it?
129  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard Roll Eyes

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill. 





Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?



Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.

The funny thing is you are trying to enforce a contract that never was. And even if it was, it can't be enforced.

At this point I honestly think you are just tolling.

How is this trolling?  You brought up the argument that the auction was null and void because he's "a child".  The auction contract maybe invalid, but he still committed auction fraud.  Well, maybe not - these board standards are very confusing to me.  I didn't think I had to put a clause that said basically "I have the right to cheat/not to cheat as I see fit."

I'm not arguing the contract. Wait, is he planning to refund the bidders and not ship??
130  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard Roll Eyes

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill. 





Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?



Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?

dont give money to his operation! dont give money to the forum! fuck off you troll!!   free market!

also see this thread and see why theymos has not sent out a scammer tag, BBF shit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.0

No need to get nasty.  I'm trying to figure out the logic.  So your saying that the same person that can't even legally enter into an auction agreement is now running a company?  With shareholders?  And he's got about 25 grand of donations?  Do Cognitive shareholders know this?  You're right on one aspect that a juvenile cannot enter into a binding contract, which means this thing gets fisher with each day.
131  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard Roll Eyes

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.

Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill. 





Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.

I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

They guy is a child who cant even hold legal binding auctions. And you are bitching he broke some rules some of you thought were real but theymos said were not?

WTF?



Then he certainly isn't old enough to run Cognitive and he double certainly shouldn't be holding onto 250BTC of forum funds.  Which is it?
132  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 05:56:45 PM
Let's make sure he has to work real hard to get the chance to pull this shit off again.

to hold an auction?  yeah that will be hard Roll Eyes

To hold a successful auction.

Garr forced people to pay a price people were happy to pay. free market wins, people wanted a "deal" did not get it and are fucking shitting themselvez cuz some guy on the internet "tricked" them.

face palm for just about everyone in this thread other than the people who said, yeah garr fucked up but its not the end of the world. he apoligized and paid out so let us move on.






Two very easy solutions:  no sock puppet bidding, auctioneers use a reserve price.



I was debating on auctioning off my SC Single.  In your logic, I could set it up, let people bid, then have my sock send the bid up to 1000BTC in the last few seconds.  Maybe someone would be desperate enough to outbid me (doubtful).  I win my own auction every single time until I get the price I want.  Why have the auction in the first place?  The entire auction process becomes a giant circle-jerk where the auctioneer sets the price, not the bidders.  That's not how an auction works.

Edit : Garr should have set a reserve price instead of the sock shill
133  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 22, 2013, 01:15:39 PM
Let the trust system do its intended job.  I posted a question on Garrs auction, fully intending to bid (one of the reasons why I'm probably more pissed off than others). The trust system allows for BTC that could have been lost.  If it weren't for Inaba, the two original high bidders would have lost 2BTC.  Even though they were compensated, it's only because Inaba caught them and the rest of the community aggressively pursued it.  Please remember Garr confessed only when his feet were held to the fire.

I was recently contacted by Garr to remove my negative trust rating for him.  I declined, based on the "could have lost" clause.  I would recommend the original two highest bidders to consider this action.

No punishment and no negative rating will only cause the thieves to flourish.  If he wants to rebuild his trust, let it take longer than a few days. 
134  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 08:33:41 PM
...

If he wanted to win the auction then obviously he was willing to pay BTC63, no? He's still not forcing anybody to pay money they would not be willing to pay. This is equivalent to refusing a price in a bargain, something perfectly reasonable.

I don't see any problem in what Garr did, however I am disappointed he didn't warn people he was doing this. However, that's still not something worthy of a scammer tag.

Yet another person I will NOT have fiduciary dealings with.

This is a very useful thread.  I could not devise a better test for determining who is and is _not_ honest.


I'm honest, I wouldn't do an auction and use a sock puppet for it, but I'm saying I see nothing wrong with it, just the method he executed it (Using an anonymous sock puppet) was bad. If I were to do an auction, and I genuinely wasn't happy with the prices I would raise the current bid, however I wouldn't use an anonymous sock puppet, and I would warn people I might do it beforehand.

Nominated for dumbest forum post 2013. I'm serious.
135  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
Just to add fuel to a raging inferno.  My single arrived.  Just need to pick it up.  Order 1821.  What number was Garr?
136  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
[...]
Why can't theymos just check Werner's IP and see if it equals Garr's? Yeah yeah Tor etc, but if Garr was this careless, he's probably more careless.

Gar's identity is not in question -- he both admitted & apologized.  

TL;DR: theymos' reply:  shilling and socks perfectly valid here.

Yes, Garr could have just kept his mouth shut but thought being open was the right thing to do.

Mmmmmn nope.....

Cry sounds like i wont be getting 64ghashs
Seems like you are all fucked twice, cause the auction is rigged by the seller using a sock puppet to raise the bids,  
read the topic till the end:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236794.msg2517652#msg2517652

Please read the entire thread before making assumptions. I did not do any such thing, but I cannot argue against my apology to Josh because he would then be able to cancel my preorder.

I am simply acting in the way those familiar with the term fiduciary duty would expect me to.

Sorry for the drama, that's not what was intended (by me).

As I said, I'm not going to argue against the all-powerful BFL only because I value those orders more than a few peoples' opinions of me.

Cry sounds like i wont be getting 64ghashs
Seems like you are all fucked twice, cause the auction is rigged by the seller using a sock puppet to raise the bids,  
read the topic till the end:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236794.msg2517652#msg2517652

Please read the entire thread before making assumptions. I did not do any such thing, but I cannot argue against my apology to Josh because he would then be able to cancel my preorder.

I am simply acting in the way those familiar with the term fiduciary duty would expect me to.

Sorry for the drama, that's not what was intended (by me).

As I said, I'm not going to argue against the all-powerful BFL only because I value those orders more than a few peoples' opinions of me.

I can't believe what's happening here...

I did not bid up those auctions. I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!

I have always been known to be one of the most transparent and trustworthy people around here. I'm sure a few btc might seem significant to some of you, but please be assured that I'm not going to SCAM people out of a few coins, because I value my reputation much more than that!

I'm genuinely disgusted with the outcome of this. Again: I'm going to hold to that apology because it is my fiduciary duty to do so, no matter what it does to my reputation.

Apologies for the mass confusion.


Hey all, regarding the Werner account:

I am not allowed to argue against what I have stated in my apology to BFL and Josh, else they will cancel my orders, which would be devastating.

I had to swallow my pride and set my ego aside so I could act in the best interest of others, as I stated previously. What I can say: It is appalling that someone would accuse me of doing something as low as bidding up my own auctions. You make me sick.

As I said, I'm not going to argue against the all-powerful BFL only because I value those orders more than a few peoples' opinions of me.

--Garr


Cry sounds like i wont be getting 64ghashs
Seems like you are all fucked twice, cause the auction is rigged by the seller using a sock puppet to raise the bids,  
read the topic till the end:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236794.msg2517652#msg2517652

Please read the entire thread before making assumptions. I did not do any such thing, but I cannot argue against my apology to Josh because he would then be able to cancel my preorder.

I am simply acting in the way those familiar with the term fiduciary duty would expect me to.

Sorry for the drama, that's not what was intended (by me).

As I said, I'm not going to argue against the all-powerful BFL only because I value those orders more than a few peoples' opinions of me.

Inaba's given you the green light to argue your case without reprocussion.  Your move.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238474.msg2532361#msg2532361




Hi all,

First, I apologize for taking too long to attempt to resolve this situation. I've been extremely frustrated with myself all day. I have been regretting what I have done since the moment I did it.

I hereby confess to bidding up my own auctions using the "Werner" forum handle. This is despicable, I know. I did this out of pure greed. Scamming anyone was not the priority, getting a few extra measly bitcoins for Cognitive's auction was my goal. I have always acted in the best interest of Cognitive, because I know, believe, and practice my fiduciary duty which comes as a result of handling others' assets. I want everyone to know that I will continue doing my best to run the company, the same as I always have. My track record on the forum has been flawless before this incident, and that's what hurts me most. I'm disgusted with myself when people are questioning whether they can trust me now.

Although some may view this as a petty offence (as I did previously), I do not any longer. As an attempt to at least partially make up for my wrongdoing, I am offering each of the participants in the auction, starsoccer9 and Vezunchik, BTC5 of my own personal funds, which more than makes up for the financial loss due false bids in the auction. I realize that what I have done is unacceptable, and I do deeply regret it.

Being an optimist, I can't help but try to take something positive away from a given situation. I believe that because of this incident I will make an effort to be that much better of a person. Everyone who I have interacted with aside from these auction participants, and Josh Zerlan (Inaba), would agree with me when I tell you: I strive to be a person of high moral conduct.

I apologize to everyone for letting greed get in my way. I know trust takes ages to build, and a few posts to destroy. I hope that everyone will acknowledge my past, and see that I have never acted in an externally malicious way, and have always been transparent, friendly, and courteous in all of my dealings with fellow forum members. Know that I am a man of my word: when I say I will do something, I do it. I regret bidding up the auction greatly. Please know that I have never scammed anyone nor have I stolen anything. I have done tons (probably well over 100) transactions of physical items with users of this forum and not one has gone sour. In most of them the other party was the one who had to trust me.

Again, I sincerely regret what I have done and I apologize for doing it. The small sum of bitcoins I gained from this (until I pay the auction bidders back) was certainly not worth the tarnished reputation. Never again will I allow myself to do something so crooked.

Sincerely,
Garrett
137  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 04:22:36 PM

Wow, OK. Possible sockpuppet(s) of Garr, shill bidding, shill bidding is OK because "price negotiations," possible screenshot faking by Inaba, "enough evidence to open an investigation on Inaba," Garr has some of the forum's money, aaand more possible sockpuppet(s).

I'm sure I missed something. TL;DR please?
Garr255 shill bidding, legit screenshot by Inaba, Garr255 confesses to being Werner, Garr255 says he might have been lying about confession #1, more evidence found connecting Garr255 to Werner,  Garr255 confesses to being Werner (again), Garr255 says he will pay 5BTC to victims of confirmed shill auction.  Starsoccer9 says hasn't been paid yet.  Svbeon says "I will be sending you the coins soon".

That's about where we're at right now.
Thank you Smiley
Why can't theymos just check Werner's IP and see if it equals Garr's? Yeah yeah Tor etc, but if Garr was this careless, he's probably more careless.


Doesn't need to.  Garr255 already confessed to the Werner account and bumping up his own auctions with it.
138  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auction: 2 BFL 64+ gh/s Single Preorders on: June 21, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
On behalf of Cognitive, I am auctioning off two SC Single units, ordered when BFL was promising 64gh/s per unit. BFL has said they will honor this original hashrate, so these will be two of the fastest units out there Smiley
139  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auction: 2 BFL 64+ gh/s Single Preorders on: June 21, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
BFL never offered 64 GH/s units.  Just sayin'

I have an email (from either Jody or Dave) confirming that BFL will be shipping me units rated at 64+ gh/s.

I'll try to dig it up.

Next order of business.  There's claim from Garr255 of an e-mail sent from BFL that confirms the shipment of units rated at 64+ Gh/s.  Inaba is currently attempting to verify with Garr255 the existence of this email.  Given the current circumstances with Garr255, I'd like this verified. 

If there is no e-mail verified, the auction items themselves were falsely posted.
140  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 12:21:44 PM
forcing StarSoccer to bid BTC63

Did Gar255 put a gun to his head? No one forced the bidders to do anything.

Having an alt that artificially raises the bid price is similar to a secret reserve price in an auction. There's nothing inherently wrong with it except that Garr255 should have warned bidders that he might do it. I rank his actions there as "a bit shady," though he handled the fallout badly (due to inexperience, I suppose).

In any case, alts aren't against forum rules, and scammer tags are typically only given when an explicit agreement is broken. Garr255 never promised not to bid on his own auctions. He never even promised to honor the results of the auctions. Without contracts, auctions are only devices to assist in price negotiations.

Garr was selling the units for Cog, who is to say Warner would not have kept the units for himself? How do we know they were a fake bid?

However yes, Garr should have been open about this, but clearly not a scam.


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BTC, LTC, AsicMiner and Cognitive!
I understand that you'd be a little biased towards the Garr255 situation. 
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