I am certainly in favor of your cause. However it is sadly an oversold and often scammed sector, [...]
In conscience, I must finally let donors and prospective donors know about this, such that they may ask the appropriate questions: These are excerpts of Personal Messages that I received from a user who has made a career of running allegedly charitable collections, and who runs an escrow business:Done! Okay, that will be 10 bitcoins.
Cheers!
Just kidding, LOL, but .... since you PM'd me already, short of begging, perhaps you can send some financial assistance my way?
But i'm not really, I already have a job and trying to get in on another campaign as the last one just died on me, and there are just so many bills to pay, and I lost 95% (maybe more) of my coins (they were in alts, so yeah, everything crashed huh.)
That gets harder if you got a wife and three children you have to take care of, moved to different country, and have no other social support. Anyway... we'll figure it out.
I don't usually beg either, haven't had to in 30 to 40 years, so ... but if times are dire, ...
Atop the begging, Dabs is outright lying. This is an excerpt that of a beg-PM that, upon information and belief, Dabs sent an awful lot less than “30 to 40 years” before February of 2020: My stack is significant... but won't let me buy a ship like that .... yet ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Hey there, hello fellow Wall Observer thread poster ... How significant is it for you? For me, I've lost everything since last year, but somehow managing to survive ... it's not easy. I am hoping against hope that maybe perhaps you'd like to help those less fortunate than you. Dabs P.S. I don't know if you've read my little story here the past few months. More recently, Dabs had someone publicly begging on his behalf in the Wall Observer: archive.ph, Wayback:[...]
You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?
Beware of those who are trying to shoot the messenger, with malicious smear-attacks against me. I now expect that anywhere that I bring this up. Do not mistake lack of reply for acquiescence, much less admission: Such things are properly beneath reply.
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suchmoon’s twisted and manipulative attempt to put me on the defensive will not work. It is a dirty secret of this forum, known to all longtime members, that nobody will dare to raise credible, well-evidenced accusations against a “high-trust” member—especially not one with certain types of friends here. Wherefore the forum tradition of using alt accounts to raise such accusations. Although I have the courage to stand up with my “main account”, I anyway cannot use a one-off throwaway here: I need to attest and release PMs from this account. The usual pattern: As a DT member, in 2020, I raised an accusation against a high-profile member based on well-known facts. Thereupon, suchmoon immediately found a convenient pretext to get me kicked out of DT. I raise an accusation against a high-profile member here, with clear evidence that suchmoon merrily ignores as she transparently tries to manufacture a scam accusation against me out of the whole cloth. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) This forum community’s trust of such persons makes me yearn for the relative honesty and professionalism of defi. suchmoon’s attempt to pin a nonexistent fraud on me is patently ridiculous. Moreover, she herself has said, and has maliciously said many easily provable lies about me (plus half-truths and twisted misinterpretations). Just for an illustrative example of her lies, take her statement that I am “begging”. Her denial now that she defamed what she so elegantly alleges to be “Cuntius” is a compound lie: Anyone who reads that post can see that she was falsely accusing me, specifically me, of making up false accusations against Dabs. Some of her most egregious lies could be easily disproved, but only at the expense of my privacy. She can make up a new lie every day, try to put me on the spot to defend myself, waste all of my time, and then do it again the next day—if I let her. I won’t play that game. The personal attack on me is entirely off-topic here. I believe that is suchmoon’s primary intent. To dispose the matter, I have therefore belatedly tagged suchmoon and a few others—as I intended yesterday with this post, and would have if the new 500-character limit did not make accurate tags more time-consuming to create. Also now goldkingcoiner. I will leave it at that. No sense arguing with a psychopath who believes that having emotional attachments to one’s friends is “irrational”.
Now, suchmoon, do you have anything to say on the topic of Dabs, or not? Aren’t you at least a wee little bit worried about how someone who’s run a charity thread for nine years has been caught PM-begging and lying about it, as shown in OP? Among other concerns... Re: Feed Some Children by Dabs (Donate Bitcoins)I am certainly in favor of your cause. However it is sadly an oversold and often scammed sector, [...]
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Despite the fact that MASS shooting is on the rise in USA, there is very little USA government is doing to stop these MASS shootings in future. Joe Biden too not very much in favour of gun law that let anyone buy a gun hut still there is no legislation from federal government.
So what you're really asking is why authoritarian restrictions aren't being passed against the popular will of the people *and* the supreme law of the land in a representative democracy. Another issue: The one-sided blaming of political opponents for mass shootings. Glenn Greenwald hits the nail on the head about that (2022-05-15). https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-demented-and-selective-game-of
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Godwin’s Law is only a logical corollary of this type of thinking: My late Dad's (a born and bred Englishman) description of the American revolution...
The Colonialists...they were all Brits (George Washington was a colonel in the British army) verses the English, who were mostly German Hessians. So it was really the Brits verses the Germans..... and the Brits won.... One way to spin it I suppose....
That is fantastically ignorant ethnic disinformation, albeit typical of Perfidious Albion. And the “mostly” is a flat-out lie: The Hessians comprised only about a quarter of soldiers on the British side (much less if you also count naval forces). There is also the small problem that a significant percentage of colonists were ethnic Germans (especially “Pennsylvania Dutch”, etc.). The primary fighting was Englishman versus Englishman. Rebels versus Redcoats—plus a civil war waged by domestic terrorists against Loyalists. The French intervened on the rebel side. Without French support, the insurrection would have failed. That made the rebellion more authentically French than some auxiliaries made the British government “German”. But if you want to play your dad’s logic all the way, it was really a war between French and Germans. The British do not exist: Q.E.D.Then go back in history to the H.R.E.—or even to the Carolingian Empire—and conclude that the French are Germans. Add the fact that Anglo-Saxons are German immigrants in Britain. The American revolution was just a bunch of Germans squabbling amongst themselves.
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Insofar as is relevant here, my “style” is faithfully to continue applying Lauda’s style. I offer hereby to serve as an executive editor, not to rewrite the thread from scratch. I have no desire to create my own wallets thread; frankly, I would rather spend the time writing my own wallet. I have been intending that for awhile.
I think you and suchmoon are right, what I understood from suchmoon post is that you can come up with a new thread about 'bitcoin wallet for newbies', the rest is left to you, you can do whatever you like, if you want to edit the thread, but distinctly referenced it to the original work of Lauda with the link available on the new topic that you created, I think you have nothing to be worried about. I may not be totally right, but I think you can send PM to theymos about this before any edition to give you the conditions to meet before the thread will be eligible to be pinned. I think if you have done this before without any notice until you created a new topic about it would be better, distinctly referencing it and stating that it is the original work of Lauda will make it credible if your work is actually credible. If it deserves to be pinned, it would be pinned. It occurred to me that this should be resolved administratively.
My point exactly. Instead of telling us how well you'd do it, you could have been halfway through creating a new thread and actually showing us how you'd do it. You missed the point. I want to keep and preserve something that has served the community well for years. I do not want to throw it out and replace it. Creating a new thread would be counterproductive to what I seek to achieve. With that being said, perhaps I may make a new thread if there seems to be too much of a danger that this thread will be replaced rather than preserved. Or perhaps not: Although I care about the existence of a good wallets thread, the desire to preserve Lauda’s thread is what decisively motivates me to undertake a commitment that I take very seriously. I haven’t decided, and I hope that I won’t need to. You clearly just want to get rid of this thread. Bury it. Slide it away.
My suggestion is to create a better replacement thread and then ask moderators to unpin this one. Calling it "burying" is disingenuous to say the least. By what disingenuous pretzel-logic does replacing and unpinning the thread not result in burying it? Unpinning it means letting it slide into oblivion, with its 99% still-good information that only needs to be maintained against obsolescence. You don’t know how I handle technical issues, since you are practically nonexistent in the technical forum.
This is a newbie board. This is a thread where technical competence is required to collate and edit the information in OP. It is fundamentally a technical thread, delivered at a newbie level. Treating it otherwise is to invite misinformation. It's a thread. About wallets. Your irrational emotional attachment to a long-gone forum member makes no sense here. I have never seen such an overtly psychopathic statement anywhere on this forum. You are celebrating psychopathy! Some of us believe that people matter. Some of us are loyal to our friends. Some of us do not treat those who were kind to us as disposable things, to use and to throw away. Yes, some of us have emotional attachments to human beings. When you contemn that as “irrational”, you let your mask slip. Classic psychopathy.
With that, for the time being, I will ignore further replies here unless something new and interesting arises. This is a waste of time, not constructive action. Lauda’s thread is probably the wrong place for this discussion, anyway—especially since she’s not here to delete anything that she deems not a useful addition to her wallets thread. She always did that, without hesitation and without apology.
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Snip off-topic sigspamming: https://archive.ph/Joafp#selection-7095.0-8213.14The topic of this thread is Dabs.Attempts to derail the thread with off-topic shooting-the-messenger are unconscionable and reprehensible. Don’t you care that the forum community is sending “feed starving children” donations to someone who has a behavioural pattern of sneakily begging in PMs?At best— at best—it calls for great skepticism. I call it probable cause to accuse Dabs of scamming. It shows concrete red flags giving cause to believe that anyone dealing with Dabs has a high risk of losing money: Runs charity, handles escrow, begs behind the scenes, and lies about begging as shown in OP. Keep the thread on-topic. suchmoon, when will you retract and apologize for your own false, malicious, and defamatory claim on 2022-06-18 that this was a matter of “nonsensical accusations”, i.e. a lie? https://archive.ph/AV4BR#selection-451.0-743.42You have made many such lies yourself, lately; but on the thread about Dabs, the on-topic discussion is about Dabs’ begging PMs. What have you to say about those PMs, and about Dabs? goldkingcoiner, your refusal even to admit that you were wrong about this shows much about you. However, this is not a topic about goldkingcoiner. What have you to say here about Dabs?
Without wishing to be baited into thread-derailment, I will state a few things for the record, for my own protection. The following is simply information for people who do not know the facts, who may be misled by a pile of lies and half-truths standing unopposed. I will avoid derailing the thread with arguments about this. A.I myself have never begged, and never will. I have also consistently refused paid signatures—including a sweet offer to advertise FJ a few years ago, which I politely declined despite being quite tempted. In the past, I have also defended suchmoon and others from attempts to get Chip to drop them. I simply choose not to accept paid advertising in my signature. Numerous forum members who eschew paid advertising have tip addresses in their signatures—including theymos. By smearing me for linking from my signature an under-construction tips webpage, where I have yet not even published any cryptocurrency addresses, goldkingcoiner and suchmoon imply that theymos is begging and/or scamming people. B.The accusations of “extortion” or “fraud” are beneath reply, save for a simple, detached and objective recitation of facts that can be verified by anyone who cares to read the relevant thread: death_wish positively claimed that he had certain knowledge that Dabs had begged in PMs. He positively claimed that evidence would soon be public, some way or another. goldkingcoiner claimed he was “sure” and “more than sure” this was false; and he very rudely insulted death_wish with clear insinuations that he was a liar. death_wish publicly challenged goldkingcoiner to “put [his] money where [his] mouth is”. death_wish positively claimed, without even a shadow of a doubt, that he had certain knowledge that Dabs had begged in PMs. He evidently did have such knowledge; and he never concealed the fact that he did. He positively claimed that evidence would soon arise, and/or that evidence could be brought out on a deadline. If death_wish had said that he was guessing, or that maybe this could be the case, and if he actually had nonpublic knowledge amounting to certainty—that would be an altogether different scenario. But to the contrary, he explicitly claimed definite knowledge that would be made public. As it was, the discussion is fairly summarized: I tell the truth—I challenge you to bet against me that I am a liar.One of the classic five elements of “fraud” is materiality. death_wish’s identity is immaterial, and it is entirely irrelevant to this thread. death_wish evidently told the truth. Two (and counting?) people have disclosed Dabs begging PMs, from 2019 and 2020 respectively. Whereupon: Keep this thread on-topic. Thus far, not even one reply from others has been on-topic. Rather, there is only classic trolling, shooting the messenger, and thread-derailment from people who evidently don’t care about probable-cause evidence to investigate a potential long-con charity-scam.
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And notice that we still miss OP_CAT to make it complete. We miss it, because it can be used to do quines, and other naughty stuff, [...]
I see what you did there. That describes me perfectly. 😿Thank you for the interesting technical discussion. Any new ideas for how to solve the puzzle? I won’t give any more hints; and I don’t want to pry about anything you are secretly thinking may let you win. Nonetheless, I myself am a curious cat.
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For those wondering how I wound up here: I have made some minor contributions to this thread before. Very minor, compared to some who spent a huge amount of time and effort actively helping Lauda with this; as I said, I do not have broad experience using many different wallets. Nonetheless, Lauda trusted my technical judgment; and she admired my skill as a writer. She sometimes bounced things off of me. Credits: [...] Additionally a huge shoutout to everyone who privately or publicly contributed to this thread. She had many contacts here, including technical experts; I doubt I was the only one who contributed that way. Anyone who actually knew her would know how she worked. I am keenly aware of this thread, in case that was not obvious. Newbie wallet guidance is an important part of promoting Bitcoin mass-adoption. I have also sometimes sent people links to this thread.
The thread is about wallets, not about someone's legacy. That is a fallacious false dilemma; and it is a slap in the face to anyone who contributes here with the expectation that they will be remembered when they are gone. I believe that I have appropriately balanced two important considerations: The important practical need of the community to continue having an excellent wallets guide for newbies, and the recognition of someone who provided that guide as a part of her years-long devotion of time and effort to this forum. The latter is an ethical consideration, even a matter of simple decency. You clearly just want to get rid of this thread. Bury it. Slide it away. Based on what I know about your writing style, your version would be ludicrously complicated, boastful, and too verbose for newbies, but feel free to surprise me. You don’t know how I handle technical issues, since you are practically nonexistent in the technical forum.In technology generally, I optimize. I have a reputation for keeping technical topics tightly focused amidst attempted derailment by Bcashers, et al. Anyway, my own style is irrelevant here. Insofar as is relevant here, my “style” is faithfully to continue applying Lauda’s style. I offer hereby to serve as an executive editor, not to rewrite the thread from scratch. I have no desire to create my own wallets thread; frankly, I would rather spend the time writing my own wallet. I have been intending that for awhile. OP and #2–4 are extremely long for forum posts, but well-organized and clearly presented. They need maintenance. Needless to say, I would add an appropriate note briefly recording the thread’s original authorship, with links for those who want to know more about the original author. When people who have some positive, constructive interest in this thread are attempting to find a solution to the problem of maintaining it, I suggest that that discussion should not be derailed.
Then stop derailing it with your cringy Lauda worship. You are clearly acting in bad faith here. I think that you followed me in here to attack me— just like cryptohunter used to do to people, and as you are now doing in multiple threads. Your very first post here consisted only of a suggestion to bury this thread, and a substance-free childish insult to me ad hominem. And you have been seething for at least two years with a thinly-veiled dislike for Lauda. Unfortunately, I think you may find a few supporters amongst those who may simply be jealous of Lauda’s thread. My goal here is to keep this thread as close as practicable to what it has been for almost six years. Just keep it updated, with a level of effort similar to what Lauda did behind the scenes. Edit it with a scalpel, not kill it with an axe. Those who love the thread as-is will appreciate that.
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I am not going to tell you again. Stop smearing my good will and reputation. I did not smear you. Moreover, you will never “tell” me anything. I am not going to tell you again: The public posts, which are all archived, speak for themselves.The public posts, which are all archived, speak for themselves. [...] The posts speak for themselves; I do not intend to comment on them. Other posts, and archives of posts, are available if needed.
I believe that you are grossly mischaracterizing the discussion in WO, but that is off-topic here. Anyone who so wishes can click through and read it. Your objections are off-topic. If you ridiculously believe that I have slighted your reputation, please feel free to open a topic in Reputation, which I will feel free to ignore because it’s not worth my time. The topic of this thread is Dabs. No surprise that suchmoon is unable to stay on-topic. It doesn’t bother me. cryptohunter’s meltdown and loss of reputation started with him following people around with wild personal attacks on them ( e.g., smearing Lauda as an “extortionist”), just like like suchmoon is now following me around with similar viciousness. I do appreciate the symmetry of suchmoon’s absurd accusation that I somehow tried to “extort” goldkingcoiner;
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Noise and objections are being raised here by someone with exactly zero prior contributions in the first 11 pages of this thread (unless Lauda deleted her prior posts *)—who practically spat at Lauda’s departure, and at those who was grieving—who has been obsessively harassing and trolling me. suchmoon’s only apparent purpose in this thread is to follow me around, and to attempt to stop me from engaging in positive activity with the forum community. I generally ignore her, so she needs to try to find a way to get a rise out of me. Her grand entrance here, her very first contribution, was to suggest that Lauda’s thread be unpinned (thus burying the cat’s legacy here), then immediately to insult me in a childish way. When people who have some positive, constructive interest in this thread are attempting to find a solution to the problem of maintaining it, I suggest that that discussion should not be derailed.
BlackHatCoiner, Charles-Tim, and JayJuanGee all showed significant interest in this thread after Lauda left, and before the current discussion arose. If I were to take up maintainership here, I expect that I would probably be working with them, among others. Before Lauda left, there were some other regular contributors to this thread. They worked with Lauda before. I have had cordial prior contact with some of them; I worked with some of them on technical education topics back in early 2018, on terms of mutual respect. I would reach out to them, if I were to take up maintainership here. My interest here is Lauda and Bitcoin—both. This, hereby, is both. This thread is a legend in itself, with >130,000 views. It has helped many newbies to get set up with their first Bitcoin wallets. That was characteristic of Lauda—of a side of her that some Reputation regulars never saw. She loved helping people. (Heaven knows she helped me, and thus got a tenacious puppy following a cat.) It was her motivating purpose on this forum; all else followed from that. Accordingly, I wish to preserve some of her best and most cherished work here. My biggest concern is, frankly, that certain parties may try to seize any opportunity to efface or to bury Lauda’s legacy of community contributions here. Lauda touched many people’s lives here; she had friends and admirers. But she also had many enemies—some of whom are as underhanded and duplicitous as they are petty and spiteful.
* Lauda was generally ruthless with her self-moderation powers, to a degree that shocked even me. She sometimes even trashed posts that she didn’t dislike, simply to make her threads less cluttered and more readable. At the time she left, this wallets thread had ≥313 posts self-mod deleted (probably many more, from the years before that counter was implemented), and 96 posts remaining. Naturally, I would do my best to follow her example in her own thread—although I don’t know if I could bring myself to be quite as trigger-happy as she was. 😼
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Notice: This whole thread is kept snapshotted. Any attempts to cover up one’s own posts here are unwise.
In a minor lapse of judgment, I let myself be drawn into this thread when it was started almost two years ago. For that, I must apologize only to myself. I should have ignored this sick thread altogether. To the public, and for the record, I should explain why I lowered myself beneath my usual standards of poise and professionalism. When this thread was started, I was still grieving over the disappearance of a dear friend. I was in an uncharacteristic state of emotional vulnerability and reactiveness. I should never have stooped to take suchmoon’s disgusting trollbait. Despite many allegations to the contrary, I suppose that I am human after all. And over the years, lapses of being “all too human” have happened here two or three times with me—sometimes due to circumstances that are nobody’s business. This forum has been a significant part of my life. Occasionally, when hit with major life events, I have not always behaved here with a stone-cold, robotic adherence to my usual reserve. I never did anything wrong as a result of that; but I sometimes vented or reacted in ways that were decidedly inelegant—beneath my station. Now, more recently, suchmoon and her canaille have been incessantly attempting to bait me and drag me back into this thread. As to the smear-attacks against me, I will say only generally that some—particularly, suchmoon and DireWolfM14—have hereby and elsewhere recently spoken malicious and defamatory half-truths and falsehoods about me. They are dishonest characters. I will not stoop hereby to parsing whatever they have said to separate it into “true”, “half-true”, and “totally false”. I will simply dismiss them altogether, with the note that this very page contains several patent lies about me—at least one of which can be debunked in about ten seconds by anyone who cares to check. I would not ordinarily lower myself to engage in a public dirt-fight with such degenerate anthropoid scum as suchmoon and her playground pals, sirazimuth, DireWolfM14, and nutildah. They are each personally permabanned from any thread that I self-moderate, and shall be banned from any venues or services that I may ever create as adjuncts to Satoshi’s forum. They are the types who are toxic to any community. It is a disgrace to this forum that they run wild here, and nobody will say “boo” to them. In case I may ever deign to bother with them here, I have amassed not inconsiderable archives of the moments when they worst exemplify their own viciousness and dishonesty. Otherwise, they are generally beneath my notice. I will not make the mistake of feeding trolls and wrestling with pigs here.
To CryptoTourist: Thanks for standing up for me here. Please don’t waste your time with these trolls anymore. They are not worth even three seconds of your time. I think you’re awesome. Let’s make some new threads about Bitcoin, Greek, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and other beautiful things. To everyone else except CH, addressed below: Normal, decent human beings do not participate in Internet forum threads designed as vulgar smear-attacks and harassment against constructive, intelligent members of the community. Please think twice before you feed this trash. If you wade into garbage and roll around in it, you will also stink. I also think this thread is exemplary of why some people need seriously to reconsider their trust lists. But that is beside the point here. Ultimately, just as the people of a nation usually get the government they deserve, the forum community as a whole gets what it deserves—for now, I will leave it at that.
A concluding message to the putative cryptohunter alt, whom I acknowledge may not be CH at all:I can now see that CH was right about some things, even if he was quite wrong about others. In my opinion, his worst mistake was to descend to suchmoon’s level of behaviour. CH, please look at this thread, and then look at some of the threads that your alleged alts have raised. Do you want for people to take you seriously, as I believe you deserve for at least some of your arguments? Stop behaving like suchmoon! You are better than that. In retrospect, I would even almost suspect that someone who dislikes you had created alts to get blamed on you. Actually, I think that has probably happened a few times, with a few of the alleged “CH” alts that did not fit the same pattern as the others. CH, if you are out there—if you are reading this—please take the high road. Always represent yourself with consummate professionalism. Mind always the proverb about wrestling with a pig: You get dirty, and the pig likes it.I think that you probably had much to contribute. Too bad it went the way it did. It may not be too late to turn that around, at least. Success is the best revenge—and he who laughs last, last best. Who gives a hoot what suchmoon says about you? Please do not take that as condescending. I mean it quite otherwise. I owe you a virtual beer. And I don’t forget that you kindly backed off attacking my friend when I was grieving over her. I actually think that maybe, just maybe it’s possible that you and Lauda could have eventually worked things out, if some things hadn’t gone the way they did. Too late, too bad. Cheers.
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Initial version of post: https://archive.ph/DT9U4#selection-3665.0-3847.91More recently, Dabs had someone publicly begging on his behalf in the Wall Observer: archive.ph, Wayback:[...]
You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?
I DID NOT "beg on his behalf". I truely thought he was in sincere trouble. And never having known Dabs (a veteran WO'er with nothing but green trust) to be a habitual begger, I felt empathy for him so I thought WO should know of the troubles of a fellower long term WO'er. And as someone in the thread said they had tainted BTC that they did not wish to hodl, trade or sell, I proposed it go towards him. I did not go out of my way to ask for people to dig into their savings. I would ask you to stop your disgusting insinuations that he had engaged me to beg for him. Instead of accusing the accuser and trying to shoot the messenger, I advise that you should apologize to death_wish for how you essentially called him a liar. And if you would have acted differently had you known of Dabs’ past begging, then your anger would be more appropriately directed at him, not at me. Rather, you should thank me for coming forward with something I was reluctant to touch for over two years. The public posts, which are all archived, speak for themselves. And you spoke for yourself, when you called for “any and all help” for Dabs, and you asked that “WO should help him out”. I will not waste my time on your dishonest wordgames, when everyone can see exactly what you said. The posts speak for themselves; I do not intend to comment on them. Other posts, and archives of posts, are available if needed.
But thank you for adding to the record what you edited into your post, when I was about to post the foregoing. I will let that record speak for itself. https://archive.ph/rtaEb#selection-3639.0-3990.4 Edit: For the record, I reported some relevant PMs to admins/global mods about half an hour ago, with a request for verification of authenticity in this thread. Report times, according to the forum: “July 04, 2022, 12:40:27 PM” and “July 04, 2022, 12:40:36 PM”. Report text: Please verify the authenticity of this begging PM in this Scam Accusations thread, where it is excerpted in Post #1 and fully quoted in Post #2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405127.0 I also request verification of other PMs quoted there by pmsg#—including my replies (which I cannot report—especially pmsg=10061085), and the PM that was publicly quoted by Wilhelm (of which I have no first-hand knowledge). Thanks.
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Reserved for my conclusions. Blank for now; I want to see what other evidence may develop, before taking any trust system action.
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Reserved to gather any further evidence that may arise.
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Following are full, unedited quotes of some public posts. The posts speak for themselves; I do not intend to comment on them. Other posts, and archives of posts, are available if needed. 2022: Dabs’ public begging by proxy:Post archived in multiple places ( archive.ph, Wayback), because it is drastically changed from the original ( LoyceV, backup, more backup): Just refreshed my neurons with my passphrase on my Trezor. Everything is as I left it, except for some dust amounts of BTC that some unknown entity has been regularly depositing to my wallet. I guess this is done to "mark" my wallet and track any future movement of my coins. Well, FUCK YOU, whoever you are, your dust will never be moved from there, so feel free to send more...
My advice to cold storage HoDLers: refresh your neurons with your passphrase/PIN/whatever you use to protect your wallet, by viewing your cold storage balance every 6 months or so. You never know when your memory may fail and you end up not being able to remember the key(s) to your precious coins.
Everything's in order, waiting for the dip to end, and for a slow, organic, healthy UPpity movement to commence.
GTCTTWW. This is fine. HoDL.
You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out? Is this now acceptable behaviour? Asking “because reasons” I have been evasively not replying to Jay’s advice that I should DCA $10/week. Same reasons I had earlier flipped out when bitebits told me to use my fiat to save my BTC (sorry, bitebits... you didn’t know me). “Uncomfortable financial situation” does not even begin to describe it. I lack food security going forward. It is not the first time for me. I rebuilt my life from scratch around assets that are now gone, when I am in poor health with other difficult circumstances that are nobody’s business but my own. It was a hell of a struggle. And the decisive (un)reason why I started getting stupid a few months ago was time pressure. It was not greediness: It was neediness. Young, spry folks can afford to have patience. I cannot afford to scrimp, save, and build up assets for another five years to be “set for life”—I do not have it in me! I ran out of time long ago. I am supposed to be bloody retired, with zero pressure... write code when I can, or read some books... otherwise, just rest. I need it right now— right now. Dabs has PM-begged in the past. He has history about that, so this is not even a one-off problem caused by the market crash which affects us all. It is habitual for him. I am concerned if he is asking around for money now—while showering merit blindly (including on a merit-abusing bounty spammer account!). If taking up personal donations for “uncomfortable financial situations” is now acceptable behaviour in WO (or anywhere on this forum!), then this is another example of me getting burned for being too principled. I would have real money now, if not for principles. It is not only my saying that; I have sometimes had friends yell at me for it. Now, hey, I am a privacy expert. I have no qualms about coins from any source—I don’t care if a coin comes straight from the CEO of Chainalysis—no one would ever find where the money goes, LOL. Oh, no... I say to burn the precious money in OP_RETURN, or donate it to miners just to get rid of it. Then, I get to watch someone incite someone else to pass the hat around WO, due to whatever sob story of needy needy needs. Fuck me, I’m stupid. I like to eat, too. I must emphasize that I have been at pains to avoid any implication whatsoever of seeking money from people when I am clearly in financial desperation. I am not here for that! When I made Jr. rank and set a signature, I did not even put in a tip address—as you have in your otherwise unpaid signature, Jay, and as you are entitled to. I am likewise so entitled; I often spend an absurd amount of time and effort writing posts that people value, on topics unrelated to the state of my personal finances. I may put up a tip address sometime, but I am especially reluctant to because of my current financial situation. I do not want for anyone to get the wrong idea about me. I mercilessly report beggars for violation of forum rules.
I am 0% jealous of people who did it right, who now have cash on the orderbooks as their wallets swell with cheap bitcoins. Congratulations. But if anyone starts getting free money thrown at him because please sir I have needs, I will be... understandably not amused. Just to see that is a slap in the face to me.
For the record, I am not asking for money. I will proudly take my reputation to my grave. I think my point is clear. 2019: More of Dabs’ PM-begging:I was not begging for him, I was asking WO if we could help him out and suggesting any unwanted BTC can go towards that goal. Neither am I sure whether or not he is sincere. But why would an old member with so much trust, merit and history on his profile on Bitcointalk be lying about a despicable situation that he is trying to get out of? And all that for a few peanuts? That does not make sense to me. Report me if you want, you're still a jackass in my book either way.
Consistently with the note that I appended at the end of my prior post before I saw your reply: I am not accusing Dabs of lying about whatever situation he claims to be in. You are inserting that here as your strawman, goldkingcoiner. Some people repeatedly get themselves into desperate situations. (I know this, all too personally.) Maybe he was telling the truth before—maybe not. Maybe he is telling the truth now—maybe not. It is irrelevant to anything that I said. I said that Dabs has PM-begged before—and now, you are publicly begging on his behalf. Right in front of someone who is clearly at least as desperate as Dabs, but who is taking the high road. You’re the jackass. Don’t you care about my desperate situation? Incidentally, this is why begging is against forum rules. Lots of people are genuinely in need.
So, are you a betting man, goldkingcoiner?
Edited to add, for the record: goldkingcoiner is also lying about his own post when put it in terms of “any unwanted BTC”. His post started with that, then segued immediately into a general beg. (Not that asking for “any unwanted BTC” would be ok, but that’s not even what this was.) Post archived in multiple places ( archive.ph, Wayback), because it is drastically changed from the original ( LoyceV, backup, more backup): [...]
You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?
I said any UNWANTED BTC (In this case accumulated BTC DUST) can go to him as a donation. And then I said he could use any and all help. Help can be in many forms. I am helping him find a job, for example. And then I said maybe WO wants to help? I do not see the part where I begged on his behalf. I wanted to do a good thing for a good man with a green trust reputation who has been doing good deeds on this forum for a long time. Here is Dabs doing charity for kids: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631.0is this considered "begging" in your book, too? Do you report the hungry children or dabs for "begging" for them? Go ahead, report the whole thread. Were you unloved by your parents and now you want everyone to be as miserable as you? Edit:
Death_wish, lets see who else can back up your claim of dabs "begging" per PMs in the past. If you are making reputation-damaging accusations without providing witness or evidence, that is called slander Libel. An action seen as illegal in many countries. And I will also not let that pass if your accusations are untrue.
So: Can anyone other than death_wish confirm prove that dabs has been "begging" via pm in the past for personal gain?Checked my PM and I've got a dabs begging PM. Death_wish is correct. I've reported this to the admin because begging is not allowed IMO. I sincerely feel for dabs but I and many have lost it all and had to rebuild. I've lost coins in cryptsy and btce and have never begged. Proof: My stack is significant... but won't let me buy a ship like that .... yet ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Hey there, hello fellow Wall Observer thread poster ... How significant is it for you? For me, I've lost everything since last year, but somehow managing to survive ... it's not easy. I am hoping against hope that maybe perhaps you'd like to help those less fortunate than you. Dabs P.S. I don't know if you've read my little story here the past few months.
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My full, unedited exchange of PMs with Dabs in February 2020After I create this thread, I will report some of these with a request that a Global Moderator or Administrator confirm the authenticity thereof in this thread. 0. pmsg=10060960: My initial PM to Dabs—entirely of a non-financial nature:Thanks for your engagement with the in the Project Anastasia discussion. I have a small request: Would you please delete this post, and re-post it? I was trying to get in a long reply with an important announcement at the top of the new page. It took me just a little bit too much time. :-) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.msg53778518#msg53778518In his own words: "Welcome to law."
Cheers. 1. pmsg=10060989: Dabs’ reply, with shocking and unexpected begging for money:Done! Okay, that will be 10 bitcoins. Cheers! Just kidding, LOL, but .... since you PM'd me already, short of begging, perhaps you can send some financial assistance my way? But i'm not really, I already have a job and trying to get in on another campaign as the last one just died on me, and there are just so many bills to pay, and I lost 95% (maybe more) of my coins (they were in alts, so yeah, everything crashed huh.) Dabs Thanks for your engagement with the in the Project Anastasia discussion. I have a small request: Would you please delete this post, and re-post it? I was trying to get in a long reply with an important announcement at the top of the new page. It took me just a little bit too much time. :-) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.msg53778518#msg53778518In his own words: "Welcome to law."
Cheers. 2. pmsg=10061085: My response to Dabs’ begging. Unfortunately, this reveals some private information that I wish I had not leaked. Historical note: This was indeed when I deleted the tip addresses that I had had in my profile since 2017–2018. Earlier today, I created a new tips page. I make positive contributions. Some people value my creative efforts (or, as hereby, my time and energy that I invest to help protect the community). I need to stop being ashamed of having a tip address like theymos and other high-profile forum members, just because I am poor and I don’t want to be perceived as needy. I have never begged, and never will. I would rather starve to death or kill myself than be a beggar—and I have suffered sufficient hardship to know what it means to say that. Thanks for your engagement with the in the Project Anastasia discussion.
I have a small request: Would you please delete this post, and re-post it? [...] Done! Thanks. Okay, that will be 10 bitcoins.
Cheers!
Just kidding, LOL, but .... since you PM'd me already, short of begging, perhaps you can send some financial assistance my way?
But i'm not really, I already have a job and trying to get in on another campaign as the last one just died on me, and there are just so many bills to pay, and I lost 95% (maybe more) of my coins (they were in alts, so yeah, everything crashed huh.) I have had the thrilling past experience of running blockchain daemons on what was then a 5-year-old netbook-level machine souped up with about €40 in extra RAM, while literally homeless and connecting through public wifi hotspots. (Thanks, Core, for keeping down the damn blocksize and thus, the resource-consuming UTXO set size.) That is over, but I am still not rich—especially not after I lost most of my minuscule crypto-fortune messing with “privacy coins” that I bought for privacy, without even thinking about their soundness for “investment”. If I want to stop being so stupid, I should probably do something to earn money. But meanwhile, I am gratuitously devoting huge chunks of my life to the Bitcoin Forum for free—no, for freedom—because I believe in Bitcoin as a movement for freedom. Some of my best essays take hours to write, edit, polish, format, preview, bugfix, and proofread one last time before I post. I do it to give to Bitcoin, not to get Bitcoin or even to get merits. (Protip: To swim in giant pools of merit, shoot out your personal energy until you almost die.) I have always refused a paid signature. I have told several campaign managers that I do not want a paid signature at this time. Between you and me, I would only take a paid signature if, without exaggeration, it were to become the only way that I could avoid literally starving or becoming homeless again. In that circumstance, I would take a paid signature for the purpose of permitting myself to continue existing so that I can continue to give to Bitcoin. And I just deleted my old tip addresses from my profile page, because I do not want for you to suppose that I may be begging under the pretext of not-begging. “Wir Wahrhaftigen” do not beg. I would red-tag anybody who showed me pity or the sick popular euphemism for pity, “empathy”. I am not joking—I mean it: Insulted me with pity. For the same reason, I request that you keep the foregoing information strictly confidential. Cheers! Now, please, let’s all work together to protect Bitcoin from liars, scammers, and identity thieves who want to destroy your money and your privacy. 3. pmsg=10061112: My disclosure of Dabs’ begging to a third party. For completeness of the initial record. I will NOT reveal who the recipient was, without that party’s consent. If it seems appropriate, I may politely request that that person come forward to confirm having received this PM from me; but I do not wish to cause the bother. Project Anastasia sure turns up some interesting behaviour, one way or another. WTF is happening to this place? Thanks for your engagement with the in the Project Anastasia discussion.
I have a small request: Would you please delete this post, and re-post it? [...] Done! Thanks. Okay, that will be 10 bitcoins.
Cheers!
Just kidding, LOL, but .... since you PM'd me already, short of begging, perhaps you can send some financial assistance my way?
But i'm not really, I already have a job and trying to get in on another campaign as the last one just died on me, and there are just so many bills to pay, and I lost 95% (maybe more) of my coins (they were in alts, so yeah, everything crashed huh.) I have had the thrilling past experience of running blockchain daemons on what was then a 5-year-old netbook-level machine souped up with about €40 in extra RAM, while literally homeless and connecting through public wifi hotspots. (Thanks, Core, for keeping down the damn blocksize and thus, the resource-consuming UTXO set size.) That is over, but I am still not rich—especially not after I lost most of my minuscule crypto-fortune messing with “privacy coins” that I bought for privacy, without even thinking about their soundness for “investment”. If I want to stop being so stupid, I should probably do something to earn money. But meanwhile, I am gratuitously devoting huge chunks of my life to the Bitcoin Forum for free—no, for freedom—because I believe in Bitcoin as a movement for freedom. Some of my best essays take hours to write, edit, polish, format, preview, bugfix, and proofread one last time before I post. I do it to give to Bitcoin, not to get Bitcoin or even to get merits. (Protip: To swim in giant pools of merit, shoot out your personal energy until you almost die.) I have always refused a paid signature. I have told several campaign managers that I do not want a paid signature at this time. Between you and me, I would only take a paid signature if, without exaggeration, it were to become the only way that I could avoid literally starving or becoming homeless again. In that circumstance, I would take a paid signature for the purpose of permitting myself to continue existing so that I can continue to give to Bitcoin. And I just deleted my old tip addresses from my profile page, because I do not want for you to suppose that I may be begging under the pretext of not-begging. “Wir Wahrhaftigen” do not beg. I would red-tag anybody who showed me pity or the sick popular euphemism for pity, “empathy”. I am not joking—I mean it: Insulted me with pity. For the same reason, I request that you keep the foregoing information strictly confidential. Cheers! Now, please, let’s all work together to protect Bitcoin from liars, scammers, and identity thieves who want to destroy your money and your privacy. 4. pmsg=10061167: That party’s response.[REDACTED]
5. pmsg=10061216: Dabs’ surreply, still telling me his sob story even though now, he knows I am poor:That gets harder if you got a wife and three children you have to take care of, moved to different country, and have no other social support. Anyway... we'll figure it out. I don't usually beg either, haven't had to in 30 to 40 years, so ... but if times are dire, ... ahhh. we'll figure it out, and make bitcoin great again .. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do escrow, of course every transaction with me is confidential. Cheers! while literally homeless and connecting through public wifi hotspots. ... And I just deleted my old tip addresses from my profile page, because I do not want for you to suppose that I may be begging under the pretext of not-begging. “Wir Wahrhaftigen” do not beg. I would red-tag anybody who showed me pity or the sick popular euphemism for pity, “empathy”. I am not joking—I mean it: Insulted me with pity. For the same reason, I request that you keep the foregoing information strictly confidential. Cheers!
That concludes my correspondence in February 2020 with Dabs. To the best of my recollection, I have had no further communications with Dabs.
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User: Dabs #54791 ( trust) These are excerpts of Personal Messages that I received from a user who has made a career of running allegedly charitable collections, and who runs an escrow business:Done! Okay, that will be 10 bitcoins.
Cheers!
Just kidding, LOL, but .... since you PM'd me already, short of begging, perhaps you can send some financial assistance my way?
But i'm not really, I already have a job and trying to get in on another campaign as the last one just died on me, and there are just so many bills to pay, and I lost 95% (maybe more) of my coins (they were in alts, so yeah, everything crashed huh.)
That gets harder if you got a wife and three children you have to take care of, moved to different country, and have no other social support. Anyway... we'll figure it out.
I don't usually beg either, haven't had to in 30 to 40 years, so ... but if times are dire, ...
Atop the begging, Dabs is outright lying. This is an excerpt that of a beg-PM that, upon information and belief, Dabs sent an awful lot less than “30 to 40 years” before February of 2020: My stack is significant... but won't let me buy a ship like that .... yet ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Hey there, hello fellow Wall Observer thread poster ... How significant is it for you? For me, I've lost everything since last year, but somehow managing to survive ... it's not easy. I am hoping against hope that maybe perhaps you'd like to help those less fortunate than you. Dabs P.S. I don't know if you've read my little story here the past few months. More recently, Dabs had someone publicly begging on his behalf in the Wall Observer: archive.ph, Wayback:[...]
You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?
Following OP, this thread shall begin with the following posts: - Post #2: My full, unedited PM exchange with Dabs in February 2020.
- Post #3: Full quotes of the most relevant public form posts from 2022, which are briefly excerpted above.
- Post #4: Reserved to gather any further evidence that may arise.
- Post #5: Reserved for my conclusions. Blank for now; I want to see what other evidence may develop, before taking any trust system action.
In February of 2020, I debated whether or not I should immediately publish these PMs. I was reluctant to do it. I decided that I didn’t want to ruin Dabs’ reputation over what may be a one-off, grossly uncharacteristic, ridiculously weak moment. I felt soft-hearted. That is always a mistake.After Dabs’ other known begging came to my attention, I awoke my account on 2022-06-29 primarily because I could not in conscience let this matter rest. (I waited until 2022-06-29, the beginning of a new activity period, because I wanted to go back to sleep without raising my activity by more than 14.) I have still procrastinated on dealing with it. I cannot put it off anymore: Every day, people are trusting Dabs for both charitable and business purposes without being informed about his sneaky begging on his own behalf. I encourage anyone else who has received any Dabs begging PMs to post them in this thread. Same as for any other relevant evidence. The community has a right to know about this. Don’t think of Dabs: Think of the poor, starving children on whose behalf he purports to collect charitable donations. The community, and Dabs’ donors, should have such information available to analyze and to draw the appropriate conclusions. Rarely would I ever encourage a big dump of PMs. In this case, I believe that it is not only justified, but imperative—an ethical necessity. As a separate issue, I should remind everyone upfront that there is no forum rule against publishing PMs; you will not get in trouble with forum rules for coming forward to inform the public here. Re: Publicly posting PMsThere is no restriction against it. PM = Personal Message, not Private Message.
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Draft/pre-alpha preview: Not yet set up, for the reasons stated below. I want to get a link set up. If interested, please bookmark this, and check back later. Skip the Nullian verbosity: “Shut up and take my money!”This page will have addresses for BTC, ZEC, and other currencies, plus a PGP-signed list of the same addresses.
Do you appreciate my writings? Do you think that I should be rewarded for what I have contributed in the past? Do you wish to encourage me to contribute more in the future? I have always refused paid signature campaigns, despite having been personally solicited with some lucrative offers in 2018 and 2020. My posts are not made for the purpose of paid advertising. Moreover, I fiercely guard my independence. I will never allow money to influence my opinions—and I will never allow fear of not being paid to inhibit me from taking a controversial stand.I want payment only from those who genuinely appreciate me. I promise nothing but to be myself: “Nobody”. In particular, I will not let desire for tips (or fear of upsetting potential patrons) influence my opinions. If you dislike my protest against a world full of shills and sellouts, then please feel free not to send me money: I do not ask nicely, for I do not ask at all. Otherwise, I will treasure your tips: I respect those who will respect this message. Rather than place a tip address in my signature, I create this thread as a linkable webpage with more information than will thereby fit. It will be self-moderated, and usually locked. Please do not attempt to reply here. Local rules: Any replies may be deleted. I think that’s appropriate, because no contractual exchange is hereby offered; this thread is only an appendage of my signature, in lieu of a more garden-variety tip address. BitcoinI am attempting to work out some better means of accepting tips without publicly exposing tip transactions, and without address reuse. If/when Silent Payments become available, I may use that here. In the future, perhaps I may set up a server for dynamic acceptance of tips. Meanwhile, I will simply “LOL” at the destruction of privacy, and switch this to a fresh address from time to time: [Bitcoin address and QR code— oh, dear, do I really need to put out another address that can be watched and tracked by blockchain spies? Yes, being fed up with a lack of privacy is making me procrastinate on giving people a way to send me money. Sorry. It is 2022. Why does this problem still exist?] If desired, you may also encrypt ChipMixer vouchers with my PGP key. Those are essentially bearer certificates. Send same by PM or e-mail. ZcashI was awaiting Zerocoin for Bitcoin since 2013. Accordingly, I have been a Zcasher since Sprout. Zcash is a great way to tip me without any worries about privacy, address reuse, and so forth. For this purpose, I am trying to get a new, long-term Orchard wallet set up just the way I want. The issue is currently being discussed in appropriate venues. I delayed making this thread for too long, awaiting a solution for my issue. To be resolved. Other CurrenciesSome other alts—to be added. Preferably things that can be used to buy BTC. 😺 PGP-signed list of addressesDon’t get scammed! The following statement confirms my ownership of the addresses listed above. It is signed with my PGP key. [Draft with no addresses: This space is intentionally left blank.]
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000000000fdf0c619cd8e0d512c7e2c0da5a5808e60f12f1e0d01522d2986a51 The nonexistent cat is memorialized on the Bitcoin blockchain forever.![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FG7jEt7H.jpg&t=662&c=ZEYMsF6ydfN1Zg) Free images of Lauda! Cool. Thanks. I’d much appreciate more. In my opinion it is just a nice trick, but I could be wrong. [...] Someday, this “mining” of txids may make for an interesting thread in the development forum. When it comes to transaction mining, it is just a nice trick, but nothing else is behind that. When I indicate that I have some practical usage in mind, I probably do. Beyond a neat trick. But I may want to keep it a trade secret. Note that what I was doing was probably more complicated than you guessed. 112f4a306f8bbe39270b0f1070751038fcf01f4a5eca42277a83e7ab3791afd5That txid obviously is not so; and at a glance, I don’t see any related txids with too many leading zeroes to be coincidental. I meant: Was 000000000fdf0c619cd8e0d512c7e2c0da5a5808e60f12f1e0d01522d2986a51 the first time that anyone had ever mined a POW txid with many leading zeroes, or any other easily recognizable pattern? Especially on Bitcoin mainnet! If my Kitty tx for Lauda was the first, I would purr. (Also, if it was the first to embed a cat emoji in OP_RETURN.) I was not even much thinking that way last year—just trying to make something fun and challenging in Lauda’s memory, like the sporting games that the Greeks played at the funerals for heroes in classical antiquity. 😺
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Guys, keep in mind that Lauda's telegram account has a new owner now. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) A year and a half after I blocked him, the account was deleted, after which someone took over this username. That is worrisome, if there is any fraudulent intent. “Grumpy Cat” is a meme, so I hope that someone grabbing “GrumpyKitty” is only a coincidence? 🙀 When Lauda stopped using that name on Telegram, she asked theymos to remove her “GrumpyKitty” custom title. I cannot now find an appropriate reference; IIRC, the relevant thread got trashed for reasons unknown to me. Suffice it to say that Lauda is not on Telegram. Or anywhere. Don’t get scammed!
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