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1201  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [270 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 09, 2013, 10:51:24 AM
Edit: Speakin of difficulty, is there a guide that says what is best to mine at with a given hash rate ?

Ex. I finally get to 6.5 GHs so what difficulty should I choose in the worker setins area to ive best chance of good earning.

Many suggest setting your difficulty to your hashrate in GH divided by 1.4.

Follow my link in the previous post for info on earnings and worker difficulty. Average earnings unaffected. Variance affected - read organofcorti's analysis to learn how (you find it if you follow the link above).
1202  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [270 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 09, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
Your average earnings are affected by your hashrate and the current bitcoin difficulty.
See, now I am confusd becuause that basically sounds like what I said before where say a guy with 2.2THs will earn more than someone with say 22Ghs. Then you pointed out that "document" that basically said no no no.... earnins are fair and even. More power / hasrate just means you can work better difficulty to tale stress off the server.

Bitcoin difficulty is currently 510,929,738. Lately this keeps going up and reducing your earnings. This site visualizes the countdown until next difficulty adjustment: http://bitcoinclock.com/. It doesn't help to switch to a smaller pool. It doesn't help to switch to a bigger pool. When more mining hardware goes online the difficulty will go up at the next adjustment and then your earnings will drop. This may seem harsh, but this is one of the mechanisms that keeps bitcoins from being spammed the way "Helicopter Ben" is spamming US Dollars right now.

What you are talking about is individual worker difficulty. That is something else. If you get a proof of work at difficulty 8 then that counts the same as 8 proofs of work at difficulty 1. Worker difficulty does not affect your average earnings, but higher worker difficulty does give a little more variance. You can learn more about worker difficulty here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27062.msg3142713#msg3142713

Yes, with higher hashrate you earn more. The document I linked to doesn't say that earnings are even. And whether something is fair largely depends on your point of view.

It's important to note the difference between:

Daily average earnings: what you get per day when averaged over many days
Daily variance: how much your actual daily earnings deviate from the average from day to day due to the lottery-like nature of mining
1203  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [270 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 09, 2013, 08:39:28 AM
Your average earnings are affected by your hashrate and the current bitcoin difficulty. That's why a simple bitcoin mining calculator only needs to ask for these two numbers. Take this one for instance: http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator - although it also asks for the BTC/USD exchange rate so it can show earnings in USD. Of course this is a little simplified, it doesn't take into account extra income from transaction fees and merged mining, or expenses like pool fees.

The pool hashrate affects how close your actual earnings will be to the average calculated above. The larger share of the global hashrate that the pool has the more the good and bad luck swings will be evened out. Time of course also evens it out. The longer you mine the more the luck swings disappear into the average.
1204  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [270 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 09, 2013, 02:09:50 AM
Edit: With difficulty oing up and people in BitMinter with 200+ GHs, I'm not even sure if this pool will be a good fit for me with pay being based on participation and I'm t best doing 6.5Ghs

The pool hashrate affects your variance. Your average earnings are not affected.

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/10731/mining-pool-hashrate-effect-on-a-miners-income

Everyone tells me "aw, you pay to  much to mine at the Guild", but then finding out about the perks and  you are actually paying fees equaling to almost that of the Guild it almost doesn't make much sense to switch pools for a lesser fee, right?

Welcome to Bitminter! You decide if you want the use the perks. That's entirely up to you.

Bitminter used to be based on only donations and most miners didn't donate at all. I was basically paying to run the pool. Now you can choose anything between 1% and 3%. And if you pay more than the minimum then you get some perks as a thank you for supporting the pool.

Since I'm dealing with so little amounts here, it is nice to have a manual payout process. Maybe Bitminter has it and I'm unaware of it?

Sorry, manual payouts are still on the TODO list.

Anyway, I switched over to Bitminter around 5pm EST today and I'll see what kind of rewards I have tomorrow around this time. That should at least give me an estimate of a 24 hour earning period, right?

There's a delay of 10 shifts from the time you do some work until that work is fully paid. Currently that's taking about 10 hours. So after 24 hours a lot of the work is still not fully paid. There is also variance to consider - some days are better than others. Comparing the luck of two pools isn't really all that useful, because today's luck has zero influence on tomorrow's luck. Since BTC Guild added the same PPLNS we have, just with a different shift size, the reward system should be pretty familiar to you. There's more info here though, if you're interested: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27062.msg2769824#msg2769824
1205  Local / Skandinavisk / Re: Svar fra Skattetaten i Norge on: November 08, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
Fra skatteetaten:

Quote
Hei,
Vi mottar mange mange publikumshenvendelser om bitcoin. Beklager sen besvarelse.

Vi håper følgende gir svar på din henvendelse:

Bitcoin

Skatteetaten mottar løpende spørsmål fra publikum og media knyttet til skatte- og avgifts rettslig behandling av bitcoin.

Vi vil nedenfor kort redegjøre for etatens tilnærming til den skatte- og avgiftsmessige behandlingen.

Skatt:

Bitcoins er betegnet som "virtuell valuta" og har mange likhetstrekk med vanlige valutaer, selv om den ikke faller inn under definisjonen i valutaloven. Gevinst ved omsetning av bitcoin beskattes med 28 prosent. Gevinsten blir vurdert ut fra verdien av bitcoins ved kjøps- og salgstidspunktene. Bitcoins som eies ved årsskiftet er formuesskattepliktig.

Merverdiavgift:

Omsetning av bitcoin er ordinær avgiftspliktig omsetning av elektroniske tjenester.

Unntaket for betalingsmidler kommer ikke til anvendelse (mval. § 3-6 d).

1206  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Mint Race #5: Win a KnC Jupiter 550 GH/s ASIC device! on: November 08, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
subseaguru has taken over the lead. An even smaller miner, with just 17 GH/s.

What are the odds?
1207  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [240 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 07, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
We need some more hash power.

The Bitminter hashrate is falling behind the BTC/USD exchange rate.
1208  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Mint Race #5: Win a KnC Jupiter 550 GH/s ASIC device! on: November 07, 2013, 06:48:58 AM
The blocks are just rolling in this morning.

bitmeme's first place was beginning to look secure - that hash had been sitting first for some time. But from out of nowhere comes KPR120, a miner with 30 GH/s hashrate, taking over the lead.

Is it the revenge of the small miners? Can a Butterfly Labs Little Single beat piles of the fastest ASIC devices in the world? Is mining just one big lottery? What's happening!?!?
1209  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [240 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 06, 2013, 09:57:46 PM
DrHaribo, somewhere recently I thought I saw you post a link to the top miners on bitminter - but I can't find this link anywhere from the bitminter website.  Would you mind sharing it again?

https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
1210  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [240 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 06, 2013, 09:45:21 PM
btw any luck on getting the red/blue fury beta program working.  I get the same errors as the other posters on multiple machines and multiple hubs

Strangely my fury device runs perfectly on both my windows 7 and os x maverick machines. Haven't tried on Linux yet.

I'm not sure what the problem is.
1211  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [240 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 06, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
Take it easy, this is supposed to be the civilized part of the forum.

Good to have a discussion on hubs. I wish those selling USB mining sticks would inform the buyers better about how to run multiple sticks. I'm getting a ton of support requests. I'm asking some of them to ask their questions here because I have no hands-on experience with the issue myself.

By the way, I can't reply to those who mistype their email address or use an anti-spam service that require me to type in things I don't know. If you didn't get a reply then try again and make sure you avoid those two issues.
1212  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 06, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
doc you have a working blue fury stick .  I can't get my red fury to work.   As is the same for a lot of other miners on this thread.

I think they are the same, just different color. The one I got is just regular grey metal for the heatsink and green circuit board. Wink
1213  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter.com * Optional Custom Miner, PPLNS, Merged mining, Newbie-Friendly! * on: November 06, 2013, 03:18:59 PM
I've been trying to mine with a BFL LS on Ubuntu 12.04 using the latest stable Bitminter. It works perfectly until it has to "ditch stale work", then it stops asking for new work or doing queued work, but still reports hashrate and temperature at a constant level. Also, the website says it has 0 hashrate.

That's very odd. If you hit engine start twice, does it start hashing again? Or do you have to shut down the client and restart it?

That looks like a very nice miner

Thank you kindly, sir.
1214  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [240 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees + MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: November 06, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Pool hopping seems to be mostly dead now. It was based on switching pool when you could tell in advance that payouts were going to be low in your current pool. It worked very well with pools using the proportional reward model, and somewhat less effectively with Slush's score based model. The point is that you can tell in advance with those reward models when low payouts are coming.

With PPLNS you can't tell in advance what future payouts will be. Trying to pool hop based on payouts from the past does not work. Thinking past luck influences future luck is called gambler's fallacy. It does not work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
1215  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Which is the best pool for mining? - A guide for choosing the right pool on: November 06, 2013, 02:20:39 PM
I just bought a blade with 10ghash, and I plan to
run 24/7. My internet is pretty stable. Which type of payout method would work best for me? Any specific recommendation for certain site?

Wow, you resurrected a 2 year old thread. Wink

Your hashrate doesn't matter for choosing a pool or reward method.

I would recommend Bitminter. It rocks.
1216  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 06, 2013, 07:22:51 AM
okay what mac osx mountain lion?  what browser firefox?

OS X Maverick. I just put the red fury in the USB port and everything just worked.

Apple seems to block Java in Safari by default these days. You can use another browser, try to get Safari to accept Java, or start from the command line. From command line, open a Terminal window and type:

Code:
javaws https://bitminter.com/beta/beta.jnlp

As I'm typing, it is chugging along at 2.3 g, with 280 proofs accepted and over 800 miscalculations.  I think this may be the same hardware error rate being discussed in one of the support threads:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319419.140

Yeah, that's normal for these devices. Apparently for every job it reports one bad nonce even when it is working OK. I'll see if I can stop counting those in the next beta version. That should make the error count more accurate. It will still be high though.
1217  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 05, 2013, 11:04:22 PM
What if you only have one of the non-working ones plugged in? It's still not working?
1218  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 05, 2013, 10:45:54 PM
Yep.  Still working through all of the possible permutations, (i.e., moving each unit from USB port on laptop and two a couple of different hubs), but so far, the client only ever picks up 1 of the three.  Can see all three in the device manager though.

Maybe they are not getting enough power. Some laptops don't have good power on USB ports.
1219  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 05, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
I'm on win7, and after installing the BF1.ini driver, the client is able to see and hash with only 1 of my 3 BF1 units (COM56) but times out on the other two (COM57/58).  This is using the most recent beta client above.  Thoughts?

Did you try unplugging them, then plugging them back in the USB ports and probing all ports again?
1220  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, BFL ASIC, Block Erupter USB) on: November 05, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
Did you install the bf1.inf ?

On Windows 7 I had to do that. On Mac OS X I didn't install anything, it worked out of the box.

There's a blue fury support thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319419.0 with installation instructions.

If you are using Bitminter client on Win 7, you'll need to download the bfgminerwin.zip file and install the bf1.inf from there. You don't need the rest of the files if you're not using bfgminer.
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