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1221  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: July 20, 2013, 07:40:36 PM
Not cool spamming BTCT with partial facts about other securites.  There should be a policy against this type release on btct.

I don't think there is a need for regulation. We are all friends in this community, I hope. I wrote Garr a PM and appealed to his respect for other asset issuers. He doesn't seem to be a bad guy and thus I'm sure he won't do any bad mouth talk in the future anyway. Smiley

I kinda feel the same way as some of you and it seems the latest update came a bit short of notice. So my suggestion: when every miner is up, it might be a good idea to publish another news post on btct.co which summarizes all the sweet stuff from the last days: doubleing the hashrate again and hashing with more than 900 GH/s, everything running smooth, another Avalon waiting, 1k in reserves etc.. Pictures are always a good thing, too.

But it's up to creativex though. Wink
1222  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 20, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
Vbs, Streets 2.0 and the others: great job!

The next barrier to overcome will probably be the convertion of Bitcoin -> USD. One of the reasons (besides expenses) for the issuing of the last 500k shares was a falling BTC/USD price and KS last calculation was done with 93.30, but he also mentioned he has a puffer now.

Such huge amounts create a wide spread, potentially move the market and there is the probability, that KS gets goxed. Furthermore and this is very important as well: there are daily and monthly withdrawal limits and large amounts need additional verification, i.e. notarized documents.
1223  Local / 挖矿 / Re: 【深圳雨版工厂】Avalon芯片第一批到货!第一批avalon量产!超频测试稳定107G! on: July 20, 2013, 06:05:32 PM
Another episode of ASIC PORN... wow! Sorry to interrupt the discussion and hijack the thread, I just wanted to say: great picuteres! Good luck with your project!
1224  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 20, 2013, 02:05:00 AM
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. Hopefully Ken will reconsider listing these new shares, or at least list them at a higher price (0.0028) to make up for all the people who bought at 26 or 27 thinking that the 25 wall was done for good.

It's loss/loss now, as this would hurt those who sold after his announcement of new shares on the weekend at 0.0025. Anyway, let's move forward and improve next time.

Great (smallish) portfolio by the way. Smiley
1225  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: July 20, 2013, 12:07:58 AM
For example, the "796 Exchange" account would have a hash "1271", but the "xchange796" account would have the hash "4252". If the hash is required to transfer, it would be very unlikely that someone could transfer to the wrong account by mistake because the hashes wouldn't match. It would also be very difficult for someone to spoof an account using a misspelling .

Just some brainstorming on this idea (still not sure if the idea itself needs to be done):

 - Every user has a second identificator (4 char hash for example)
 - Sender starts transfer to username as usual
 - btct.co asks for confirmation and displays username and second identifier

This would eliminate the need of entering the second identifier with almost the same outcome.

The current two times input + pin is much more than we get from a Bitcoin tx though. I tried to send a share to a non existing username and all it shows is "invalid user", so this case is covered already and they don't get lost in limbo.

xubingde: I don't understand the loophole you mentioned and I feel sorry for your loss. What would you like to happen to "solve" your problem?
1226  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Stealth dark pool orders on Mt. Gox, Bitstamp, and BTC-E on: July 19, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
Unless the order is actually sitting there on mtgox's book, the only way I can think to implement this is to wait until the book crosses the "dark" order, and then send a real order to mtgox.

First thing that came into my mind, too. I'm still wondering...

So it's a "if price is x, place order" bot, correct?
1227  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2013, 05:17:22 PM
Just did a quick adding up of our funds.  Converted @ 93.40 we have ~$890,000, so I am going to add 500,000 shares to the wall.  We need funds to cover the 40-60 machines we are building, to finish paying for our prototypes, finish paying for the engineering of the prototypes, and some for general operating expenses.  Also, we need some room just in case the price of bitcoins goes down.

Would you confirm that you are going to sell roughly about 10k Bitcoin? When would that happen? Are you aware, that you won't get the current highest bid price, as such an amount (if sold as market order) would have a large spread? Or do you intend to place a 10k wall on 93.40?
1228  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2013, 04:19:03 PM
The problem with this math is if in fact AsicMiner is overvalued. I will not speculate on this as I've been burned in the past when I doubted AsicMiner's resilience and momentum.

I don't want to create an OT discussion, but only one fact: Bitcoin land is "oversaturated" with Bitcoins to spend and use, implying "overvalued" assets.
1229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 04:10:49 PM
To be paid in BTC, but maybe the buyer/s are using Dollars to buy BTC to pay? or you are 100% sure the buyer/s already had 135,000 Bitcoins in their pockets before signing the payout....? since we dont know who the buyer/s is/are - you can't know that.. furtheremore that anouncement of "batches" sounds to me like money will be coming from fiat to BTC

SD holders received the payout in Bitcoin via MPEx in 20 batches within 5-10 minutes 13-14 hours ago. It's unclear, when the BTC were purchased and if at all as we only could spot 20-30k coming into MPEx in a shorter timeframe before payout and more chucks some days and weeks before. I'm not very familiar with the amounts on MPEx, but people say it's not something very special, when such amounts arrive there.

The only reasonable scenario I see for buying those 130+k BTC after the payout would be a super whale who has both large amounts of BTC and fiat and who speculated to cause a selloff with the payout - 130k coins which could possibly be dumped on BTC/USD.
1230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: July 19, 2013, 03:46:55 PM

Click it!

But CB could get a bit larger.. there are still some pixels in height left, before interfering with the surrounding layout.
1231  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 19, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
there was a whale pushing it down yesterday.  I watched the big buy order at 4.611 for 350+ shares go through almost all at once.  So, someone wanted to put the price back down closer to 4.5, yesterday.

Another big someone was buying a bunch a bit before, trying to hit 4.9.

So, it was just whales fucking.

^ This..  Cheesy

There was a >600 bid wall which was finished by the above mentioned 350+ shares sell.

Edit: could also be someone with a huge stack of coins and shares who just wanted to sell and buy back lower. Wall set up to drive the price higher, sell into the wall, to induce a selloff. But half of it got eaten before.. hmm.. well. Wild speculation only, I guess.
1232  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 19, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
It was before the SDICE payout.

Maybe that's related.

1233  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: July 19, 2013, 01:29:48 PM
I might have spotted some strange behavior in availability checking. I could reproduce this:

1. Own shares
2. Write call options
3. (optional) Cancel options
4. Recall options

= Shares are still reserved.

But they can be placed via API and after canceling the new placed API order, they are available again.

I did this with all shares of an asset. If I only place a portion of them as option and recall, they are still shown as reserved in the order placing window, but the order gets placed the same as via the API. It's problematic, if it's done with all shares, because "there is no way to force the placement" because the buttons are disabled.
1234  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Eyes to the horizon: A bitcoin ASIC project will be announced in June on: July 19, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
1 ,Our IPO will start soon (in 2 weeks)

+1 for btct.co.. Smiley
1235  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: July 19, 2013, 12:47:46 PM
That's not a very pretty depth chart.

Update.. Smiley



I think the 381 wall was a bit scratched and then pulled, wasn't it?
1236  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: July 19, 2013, 04:40:58 AM
Av1 *IS* still online btw so we're actually right around 800Gh/s. Tomorrow I will rig some way to get more cooling in there and/or vent the exhaust outside and get our other two Avalons back online.

Nite all.

That sleep is well deserved. Good night! Wink
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 01:50:52 AM
SatoshiDice shareholders received the final payment: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.DICE

Let the fun begin...
1238  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: July 18, 2013, 11:04:28 PM
A wild ask order appeared.. or to be more precise: 381 @ 0.779990 BTC on the book now.
1239  Economy / Securities / Re: Active Mining Speculation Thread on: July 18, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
We are about to drop below 1.3 million shares

13/21 Shares left.

I'm not sure how BTC-TC handles this, but I think FIFO. There are multiple ask orders sitting on 0.0025:

Code:
"52": {
    "ticker": "AMC-PT",
    "timestamp": "1372334090", << 27.06.2013 - 13:54:50
    "amount": "0.00250000",
    "quantity": "791378",
    "buy_sell": "ask"
},
"53": {
    "ticker": "AMC-PT",
    "timestamp": "1372895784", << 04.07.2013 - 01:56:24
    "amount": "0.00250000",
    "quantity": "500000",
    "buy_sell": "ask"
},
"54": {
    "ticker": "AMC-PT",
    "timestamp": "1373922798", << 15.07.2013 - 23:13:18
    "amount": "0.00250000",
    "quantity": "1",
    "buy_sell": "ask"
},
"55": {
    "ticker": "AMC-PT",
    "timestamp": "1373798561", << 14.07.2013 - 12:42:41
    "amount": "0.00251000",
    "quantity": "1",
    "buy_sell": "ask"
}

The one getting chewed is #52 with ~1950 BTC total left. So.. maybe, just maybe (I didn't read through the AM thread), someone placed another huge load on 0.0025 to create the impression, the wall is higher as it is. Well, the height is the same, but ... I think you get my point.
1240  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: July 18, 2013, 06:54:25 PM
There are 9000 call options available for S.DICE-PT on btct.co with a premium of 0.00001155 and a strike of 0.03100000. That's 10x too much, because of a missing 0.

1000 were already sold and exercised...

Quote
2013-07-18 18:44:45   Call Option   1000   BTC 0.031   BTC 31

That poor guy paid 27.5 Bitcoin too much.
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