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The COIN etf if approved opens up btc investment to a multi trillion dollar capital pool. It allows non accredited investors to buy in using a tax efficient wrapper.
It will be potentially be the most incredible surge in the history of bitcoin.
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My assumption is bitcoin has at least one more bubble in it even if it fails as an alternative private currency.  Not exactly a ringing endorsement from one of the biggest bulls around these parts... Just one more spike to unload your bags? I think bitcoin or a descendant will disrupt the world. Its pretty clear it is the best form of money ever invented and a block chain based crypto currency should cleave apart money and state. I won't touch most of my coins until 2020. If it dies I go down with the ship! But I will sell a small % on the next spike, sure. That's how the coins distribute, right? At least that's the plan. It was the plan last time, too |
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But it doesn't sound like you are back in yet. What you waiting for, the exp trend line to break?
At least breaking 315. All prices below are (nearly) meaningless. Same for prices above 210. Within this range I only trade with peanuts and wouldn't dream of trading with leverage. Fair enough. Sensible. I probably should have dumped during q1 2014. Still I bought in a lot lower with most my coins so its OK. I have been accumulating heavily since we breached 300. My assumption is bitcoin has at least one more bubble in it even if it fails as an alternative private currency. |
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Bears are quiet since you Bulls managed to rise to 260?
Yes. You have it exactly. Unlike you and I, they are playing with leverage so a rising price means losing money  Nice one on your trade. But it doesn't sound like you are back in yet. What you waiting for, the exp trend line to break? |
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The massive amount of anti-bitcoin trolls on this forum, reddit and twitter is a blatant sign to me that we are on the right path. Since we're encountering so much opposition we must be doing something right! Bitcoin will rule the internet of monies in a few years then we can all sit back and laugh at the old days doubt and speculation.
No, it only shows that the "trolls" are trying to tell new people that come to read this forum the truth, possibly avoiding them with financial ruin and a future of obsessed gambling addicts. For the permabulls there is no hope, the "trolling" is not for them, those will just baghold for the end of eternity. How do you know the truth? If you mean the future then your last few predictions proved totally wrong. Will you make another call for new lows then disappear whilst the price rises 30% again? Lawl, inca blaming others for failed calls. At least you tried, inca.  IIRC you have a habit of disappearing back under your bridge during price rises, too. 1. You seem to have a very weak memory (you should practice it in some senior-memory-training) You forgot about your last ~1504390 false calls, but you blame others for their false calls. Furthermore you forget about that the dump3er is always there. I don't care about this weeny bounces, what results in point 2: 2. You call THIS rising prices??? Feel free to dig up those innumerable calls!? |
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All the bulls that like to ridicule people for not being bullish have probably costed newbies lots of $ in the last 15 months. I think a lot of newbie investors probably would have sold a lot earlier if it wasn't for all the bulltards in the last 15-18 months on this forum. I wonder how many people bought at 1000+ and still hasn't sold yet.
How much did you cost people on here in 2011 by arguing bitcoin was overpriced at 2 dollars? The price subsequently rose more than 500x higher. If there is one thing we know on this forum, it is that your pathetic attempts at manipulation (when you are short) are to be ignored entirely. You are right you don't need to explain that obvious and somewhat irrelevent point, no. Who exactly is saying the price is going to rise 500 fold from here? It can rise 5 times just to reach the previous ATH however. My point is very relevant, as that is exactly where Bitcoin is atm. Bitcoin has proven to be successful experiment so far, bringing the price to three digit territory. Further growth requires substantial and really mass adoption, which we don't have at the moment (and we are quite from atm, actually). Maybe to be achieved in the future, but only under the condition of some really serious developments. Having said all that, I am not saying Bitcoin can't have another speculation bubble. Of course it can, but that would be rather the last one of that kind, after which there won't be much to fix. Mass adoption is certainly not required. Bitcoin has been into 4 digits without it and can easily return there with investment demand alone. |
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The massive amount of anti-bitcoin trolls on this forum, reddit and twitter is a blatant sign to me that we are on the right path. Since we're encountering so much opposition we must be doing something right! Bitcoin will rule the internet of monies in a few years then we can all sit back and laugh at the old days doubt and speculation.
No, it only shows that the "trolls" are trying to tell new people that come to read this forum the truth, possibly avoiding them with financial ruin and a future of obsessed gambling addicts. For the permabulls there is no hope, the "trolling" is not for them, those will just baghold for the end of eternity. How do you know the truth? If you mean the future then your last few predictions proved totally wrong. Will you make another call for new lows then disappear whilst the price rises 30% again? Lawl, inca blaming others for failed calls. At least you tried, inca. IIRC you have a habit of disappearing back under your bridge during price rises, too. |
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The massive amount of anti-bitcoin trolls on this forum, reddit and twitter is a blatant sign to me that we are on the right path. Since we're encountering so much opposition we must be doing something right! Bitcoin will rule the internet of monies in a few years then we can all sit back and laugh at the old days doubt and speculation.
No, it only shows that the "trolls" are trying to tell new people that come to read this forum the truth, possibly avoiding them with financial ruin and a future of obsessed gambling addicts. For the permabulls there is no hope, the "trolling" is not for them, those will just baghold for the end of eternity. How do you know the truth? If you mean the future then your last few predictions proved totally wrong. Will you make another call for new lows then disappear whilst the price rises 30% again? |
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What if Winklevoss Twins' bitcoin ETF (NASDAQ) would be the same as GBTC (Barry Silbert's Bitcoin Investment Trust, OTCMKTS): 1: NO trades two weeks after official launch, unlikely for ETF, because Winklevoss Twins can't wait to sell their bags (1 million shares = 100k bitcoins), so there would be sell orders soon as ETF goes live! 2: The ETF will only got less than total 75 bitcoins buy orders like GBTC does (GBTC only has 750 shares bid list = 75 btc demand http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote). If thing comes out like this, does it mean neither wall street nor average joe is waiting to get in and in fact nobody care about bitcoin? Why don't you ask hypothetical trolling questions with your main account instead of using a throwaway? |
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On the 27th and 30th August 2013 Markus bought a lot of BTC, further faking the bull market (total net BTC bought by Markus = 297628). From the Willy report:
In this table, the first two trades (buy/sell pairs) are by some regular user with ID 238168. In the second trade, this user buys 0.398 BTC for $15.13. The next trade is some large market buy by Markus (ID 698630): note how the “$15.13″ value from the previous trade seems to “stick”; regardless of the volume of BTC bought, the value paid is always $15.13. This is speculation, but perhaps for Markus, the “Money” spent field is in fact empty, and the program that generates the trading logs simply takes whatever value was already there before. In other words, Markus is somehow buying tons of BTC without spending a dime.
 I took that to mean speculation concerning the mechanics of the bot: the actions themselves are not in question. that db dump was doing the rounds last year, im sure you can still download a copy of the raw data if you are interested. Until we have the outcome of an official investigation Mt Gox and the mysterious trading bot is idle speculation. A file floating round the net or a 'blog' do not constitute a smoking gun. If it turns out to be true then the price then there should be criminal prosecutions. But either way the price has been unsupported by that bot for over a year and is now rising from a protracted bear market without it. Bears need better FUD. Perhaps it is time for another China ban or another dark net market running with their funds. I am sure you will come up with something. Because with shorts at all time highs you need it in the coming days. |
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In the 27th and 30th August 2013 Markus bought a lot of BTC, further faking the bull market (total net BTC bought by Markus = 297628). From the Willy report:
In this table, the first two trades (buy/sell pairs) are by some regular user with ID 238168. In the second trade, this user buys 0.398 BTC for $15.13. The next trade is some large market buy by Markus (ID 698630): note how the “$15.13″ value from the previous trade seems to “stick”; regardless of the volume of BTC bought, the value paid is always $15.13. This is speculation, but perhaps for Markus, the “Money” spent field is in fact empty, and the program that generates the trading logs simply takes whatever value was already there before. In other words, Markus is somehow buying tons of BTC without spending a dime.
Mt Gox closed over a year ago and was irrelevent to price discovery long before that. What next? Blaming the guy who exchanged a pizza ten thousand btc? He should have charged more, he falsely overpriced bitcoin for the rest of eternity!!? PS. what proof do you have other than a 'blog' that the Mt Gox 'bot' wasn't legitimate? There is a country called China that existed during the last bubble you might want to look it up. |
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DO NOT BE AFRAID TARMI
of what? of sneaky bulls that are trying to start something on easter sunday? no. they will fail miserably. 1. Short at 255 2. Watch it become quite profitable, dropping into 23X. 3...  Oh wait now he covered in the 230's. LOL. |
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1) point out which part of those statements were rubbish
What? Your whole post was personal!!  2) given the majority of my coins were safely locked away in march/april 2013, who cares if i did?
Forgive me if I think that is just a big bitcoiner porky pie... So you were in bitcoin since early '13, squirreling away those cheap coins. eh?
Inca Date Registered: November 10, 2013, 02:10:27 PM
I think you might have come a little late to that party... Yep that is right NotLambChop deserves your support. Where have you been for the last year? lol. Lets just say the biggest financial mistake I ever made was opening my bc.info account in nov 2012 and watching the price for a few months before jumping in. |
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So, apart from that ad hominem rubbish, Did you buy at the top???
1) point out which part of those statements were rubbish 2) given the majority of my coins were safely locked away in march/april 2013, who cares if i did? |
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<troll crap>
NLC, I worry you might be mentally ill. All you do all day is talk to yourself on a bitcoin forum. The point being talk to yourself, as after this message I will ban yet another of your pathetic alts. Maybe you can talk about child pornography with yourself (another favourite of yours). Why aren't you posting from your main account instead of 'sporket' again? Perhaps you could have a chat with yourself about how you sold your entire stash at 600 dollars and watched the price double in the following months becoming more and more bitter each passing day. Eventually posting 8000 times in 9 months trying to troll the price lower. But feel free to keep posting that I bought one coin on december the 4th 2013 to your heart's content! Back to ignore my feeble friend. EDIT: oh and dec 4th was nowhere near the top, but i am pretty sure 160 was the bottom |
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WOW !!! i cant believe my eyes, we break 260 !!! where are the bears...  They are here writing crap, because there's nothing left to do on exchanges. They know their orders won't get filled so they have a lot of free time to dick around. Like that guy above who said the pump is small - 6000BTC bought on Bitfinex only in a few minutes is not worth talking about. I've seen them partying here when 1000 was being dumped... Oh, the denial You want to see denial? Wait until we break the exponential trendline on heavy volume. To think this lot could have bought coins (i know i did) at 170 or even 160 |
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i know this will happen, good news and the whale will dump, bad news and the whale will buy.
Meanwhile thousands of holders buy and accumulate as much as they can each day at these levels regardless |
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Do not panic!!!
These are just shorts panic closing
We are going back down tonight!!!
Add more shorts
DO NOT BE AFRAID TARMI
Actually shorts are still rising. That was buying. (lol) Edit: cannot say tarmi wasn't warned well in advance. he probably covered. |
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Do you seriously think that there's over a 50% chance that the halving will be delayed??
No, I do not know whether the top miners will try it, or any other "little abuse". I believe that they could -- not just in theory, but even taking into account the possible reactions of the community. Those 4-5 miners would postpone the halving to sell twice as many coins at less than a quarter the price? The halving is priced in and if it doesn't happen there will be a crash. Everybody knows this.
Who says that it will be a quarter of the price? The past halvings did not have a visible effect on the price. So why would a delay in the halving have any effect -- unless the ideologues go out screaming "BITCOIN IS WORTHLESS" to the world? Now they wouldn't do that, right -- because "destroying the value of the thing you sell is just bad business." The ideologues would react the same way they have reacted to previous bad news, like the MtGOX collapse, the confiscation and sale of the SilkRoad coins, the China bans, etc.: they will say that bitcoin is "antifragile" and will survive this third fork like it survived the previous two, or even that the change is "good for bitcoin". In fact, that fork would probably be less traumatic than the previous two, because it would be deliberate rather than an unexpected bug. There is nothing magical about the current halving schedule. Satoshi could have just as well picked a schedule that skipped 2016 and antecipated the following halvings, and it would have been just as good (or just as bad) as the current one. If he had done that, and we were discussing the opposite change, I am sure the objections would be the same... yeah, if you had half a clue about the hardcore of bitcoiners (none you mention) you'd be more worried about protecting your own assets than spending time spouting arrant nonsense, bordering on slander, on backwater threads of bitcoin forums ... you've had a pretty easy ride so far trolfi but the clock is ticking friend.
Wait, are you accusing me of slander? Of whom exactly? Or is that a threat, "stop warning people about the problems of bitcoin, or else"? You are really scraping the barrel now Stolfi. You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation. Solution? Find a hypothetical problem by changing the protocol. Lol. You need to get out more. |
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Bid side support building .. |
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