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1341  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: December 22, 2019, 01:07:38 PM
we have collaborated with 37 websites "Top 10 mixers" ranked on google search and we  have ommited chipmixer from the list as they practice unmoral advertising strategies . The signature campaign AdolfinWolf and TryNinja just goes around making unjust remarks on other mixers without actually testing the services is a very bias marketing strategy thats tarnishes the good image of ChipMixer

On the contrary, you will find that the ChipMixer campaign is the most respected on the forum because of the quality of its participants and their posts. Check out how many merits their posts have earned and then compare it to any other campaign.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207219.new#new

Therefore the can just go claiming on every other services is a scam ?



We been tested and proven legit :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129376.0


We respond badly to negativity and we are on Chipmixer sanction on google search , this is the response to chipmixer's marketing agent's unjust remarks. We will personally contact all other mixers owners as a join force sanction on chipmixer and we will play with SEO. Lets play

lol. So says the idiot launching a new mixer using a "Top 10 mixers" amateur hour webpage that omits the number one mixer because they they don't like being challenged with difficult questions.
1342  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: December 22, 2019, 07:23:06 AM
we have collaborated with 37 websites "Top 10 mixers" ranked on google search and we  have ommited chipmixer from the list as they practice unmoral advertising strategies . The signature campaign AdolfinWolf and TryNinja just goes around making unjust remarks on other mixers without actually testing the services is a very bias marketing strategy thats tarnishes the good image of ChipMixer

On the contrary, you will find that the ChipMixer campaign is the most respected on the forum because of the quality of its participants and their posts. Check out how many merits their posts have earned and then compare it to any other campaign.
1343  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 22, 2019, 07:19:02 AM
I saw it minutes ago and this is my first time I saw the advertisement of FreeBitco.in in the forum ban ads. 34M. registered users is an impressive figure and I hope that the team will get good results from their first (maybe) advertisement round here, then they might decide to keep running the other rounds later.

By the way, I thought the image in above post is overlarge, and should be resize or adjust with width, height options.

I agree, I uploaded it on mobile and its large af.

How do I resize this thing?

Code:
 
[img width=350]https://your_URLjpeg[/img]

1344  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 19, 2019, 01:04:36 PM
One major diff in FBC is that while the odds is like a bookie elsewhere, it has nothing to do with actual payout. Payout depends on how many people bet on your outcome, and how much they put. Then your bet is calculated as the share of that amount. If you win, you win the equal percentage share of all the other amounts bet on the wrong outcomes. Minus house commission of course.

So if I am the ONLY one to bet on outcome 1.01x estimated odds. But everyone else bets on the 99x, and I win. I get eeeeeverybody elses money which will not be 1.01x.

Correct me if I'm wrong FBC:)

You're not wrong. The only thing my opinion would differ on is that it isn't really a major difference. Fixed odds bookmakers constantly adjust their odds as bets are placed to make sure they still can pay the winners from they have taken from the losers (minus their cut) whatever the outcome is. Parimutuel betting just leaves the calculation until the end rather than doing it constantly.
1345  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 18, 2019, 11:59:15 PM
This is exactly how odds work in different sports betting platforms I know. But I think there is a difference in Freebitco and the odds can change even after you make the bet.
Here is what the website says about outcome odds.
"Estimated odds for this outcome. Actual odds will be calculated after betting ends for this event."

It also says:
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Bet on the latest events against other FreeBitco.in users and win a share of the prize pool if you pick the winner!

Which describes how a parimutuel betting system works rather than a fixed odds system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_betting
1346  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 294 on: December 18, 2019, 11:54:53 PM
4 @ 0.03
1347  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 18, 2019, 05:33:07 AM
Before that, please consider lowering your House Edge to at least 2%.

No.

From every thread that discussed "House Edge", freebitcoin had always been mentioned for having a ridiculous HE (Sry for the word).
IMO, it's the major factor why others didn't like the casino part of the site.

In our opinion having a higher house edge allows us to give away much more than all the other crypto casinos and that is the major reason why we are the most successful. We're not going to change what has been working so well for over 6 years.

https://decrypt.co/11005/bitcoin-casino-third-largest-internet-gambling-site-in-the-world
1348  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 15, 2019, 02:39:34 AM
Is it just me or is there a certain campaign by members wearing the signature of a particular site trying to discredit freebitco.in?

I think that's just a coincidence. I'm a long time customer and investor of that site. In all my dealings with the owners and their signature campaign manager, they are the last people I would expect to engage in any activity like that.
1349  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 14, 2019, 04:39:28 AM
this is a cheating thief! 100% Embarrassed

Yes. Just like you, @em1ny is another cheating thief I caught. We have been constantly improving our abuse detection systems during the last year or so I have been managing that side of freebitco.in and have significantly reduced the amount of theft occurring. This helps us keep the rewards higher for our honest users.
1350  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 14, 2019, 12:49:19 AM

Is this accurate? Every time the website refreshes, the countdown starts from the exact same numbers, which means it's either a complete fabrication, or its simply outdated?

The counter updates from time to time. What you see live, changes when the page reloads. Probably the live counter will update every few to several minutes. The live counter was made not to cheat us, but to show how quickly the project is developing. It just looks nicer and is more eye catching this way Wink

The stats page is cached on Cloudflare and it updates hourly. The counter just runs at the current rate of increase so when you refresh the page you go back to when the page was last updated.
1351  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 13, 2019, 04:45:29 AM
For this, I already make a screenshot and do you want to see it?

No. When someone is making false claims against us as you are currently doing what I would like to see is some real evidence.

What a feeling that some thing are going to happen from your say and luckily i captured it with my post being the last. You are not answering directly straight to the point but drive the story to something else and will just telling other "bullshit, idiot, liar, blah blah" after starting to lose to defense it.

You were the one trying to deflect by changing the subject not me.

The example given just to let anyone else reading this to read and verify himself and my main point is "getting 10000 is not the same chance or 1/2 chance of getting other numbers" despite your marketing terms but technically people need to know what is the real chance behind it.

There is nothing to deny that I purposely tried to drive you to "admit that the system is really rounded of to the nearest integer" with your examples too (hope they are still there). So that I can prove that it's not and it's also not 1:20000 as per your saying to get the $200 prize number, but it's much more than that which is 1:4294967295, and also not 1:492496 as you argued with me.

You said 1:492496, I said 1:20000 so please do not misrepresent my words.

Where is your evidence that proves this? Show me a roll that was 9999.5 or above that was rounded down.

Look at the last post I paid the $5 bonus to:


Click the verifier link and you'll see this:

Server seed: c06eeac41f469fc56e262f9090794904f33ddbc1843485c8a7e5ae954f2e5889
Client seed: pZ3Pu2ITmFbnrzCe
Nonce: 70355

So:
STRING1 = 70355:c06eeac41f469fc56e262f9090794904f33ddbc1843485c8a7e5ae954f2e5889:70355
STRING2 = 70355:pZ3Pu2ITmFbnrzCe:70355

Use SHA 512 to hash string1 with string 2 as the salt https://www.online-convert.com/result/17e14142-0ebe-4fa2-a06a-134bc70dcc7b

Gives hex:
FFFE565B8A43FD180EE58F94C095D91405E268760E22D49752B4DB1420402B40EDB7BAE56CE188F 496F059AB9CC09CA1A36336881264281E21510FE05B5A5788

First 8 digits converst to decimal: https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/number/hex-to-decimal.html
4294858331

4294858331/429496.7295 = 9999.746298417

Which was rounded up to 10000 and the lucky freebitco.in customer received $200 in Bitcoin.

Base on simple math you can't give out 30,000,000 / 492,496 = ~ 60 * 200 = 12000 USD a day understanding that this is free and your main income is not from Free Roll as well as can't effort to pay out this amount since it's only a gateway to other things.

Let me correct that for you. Based on the wildly incorrect false assumption that there are 30,000,000 free rolls a day.

Numbers of user accounts and total "free roll" count per day will definately huge and you simply can't and won't pay on the 1:492,496 but 1:4,294,967,295 is more realistic. I dare you to show a reasonable proof of "total free rolls played per day" and total number of rolls that hit 10000. Definately you will not because it will yield the true odd as I said.

Let me give you a far more relevant number. 142.313. That's how many BTC were wagered yesterday and 5% of that is our theoretical income which comes to 7.11565 BTC = $51,659.61 so even if your rediculous assumption was correct $12,000 would not be a problem to us.
1352  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 13, 2019, 03:57:41 AM
@TheQuin what's happened to account em1ny@yandex.ru??

The same thing that happened to your other 180 accounts.
1353  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 12, 2019, 08:03:42 AM
If the website does follow the convention of rounding up fractional numbers over 0.5  I dont see a big point to argue over.

He's just trying to obfuscate the fact he couldn't understand the difference between "rounded off to the nearest whole number" and "rounded down" or "rounded up". The same tactics The Village Idiot uses. When proved wrong just make a lot of noise complaining about something else or just keep making the same complaint ignoring that I've already explained why they are wrong.

1354  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 12, 2019, 07:28:53 AM
So that what I say is correct, it get doubled, first the already house edge 5% and the next is 1 sat. Too aggressive in this case.

Are you for real? Are you really complaining about rounding of up to 0.000072 USD. I just explained why it is essential. Why do you just ignore that. Is it because it shows you don't have a complaint? Or is it because you want to change the subject after I just proved you incorrect?

How about apologising for this?

OK so I can confirm that your statement of:" to get a result 0 or 10000 there is 1/2 lesser chance of getting other numbers" is COMPLETELY WRONG.


Why did you just go back and edit your previous post after I had already answered it? Are you trying to make look like I ignored you latest bullshit?

This post up above sums it up perfectly.

Seriously how did someone finally figured out a way to complain about something that is free? I know it took years for them to figure out a way but how can someone really complain about something which is absolutely free?

Analogy is more like "would you accept money from strangers" which normally homeless people for example do, of course we are not homeless and this free money doesn't change anything for us but would a beggar on the street say "I think you are not being fair" to someone that gives them 1 dollars instead of 100? Do they only accept 100 dollars and reject the rest? They all take even cents they are thrown at.

So, free money is free money, there is nothing you can complain about at all, it is just free, take it and continue your life or don't take it if you don't want to but don't complain about free money not being a lot, nobody dishes out free money like freebitco.in anyway.

I will not give you any more the time of day than I do The Village Idiot from now on.
1355  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 12, 2019, 06:57:17 AM
A simple term can be understand the same way by everyone but it can be another meaning by the one whom defined it.

There is no room for misunderstanding the meaning of the word "nearest".

The reason I've asked so many time that is because on your site what currently going on an can be checked and verified is the payout of winning of Multiply BTC game which is not "rounded of to the nearest whole number" but to benefit the house it's rounded down. It's a strange thing that in any other site the rounding thing is done correctly and fair (up to the smallest unit is satoshi), but in your site despite the already high house edge, by using the math rounding, it's again "make used" to benefit the house on paying the winning payout by round down.


This is a completely different subject and I didn't reply because I didn't want the 2 issues to cloud or confuse.

There is a very simple and essential mathematical reason why the payouts are rounded down to the nearest Satoshi. If we rounded to the nearest whole number and you bet 50 sats at 1.01x the 0.5 Sat win would be rounded up to 1 Sat but you would only lose 50 Sats when you lose. That would make it a +EV bet and the bankroll would emptied 1 Sat at a time.
For anyone making reasonable size bets the rounding loss of up to 0.000072 USD isn't really of any significance.
1356  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 12, 2019, 05:49:33 AM
Don't ask me again to learn superb math if the above calculation is wrong, I only have enough math to finish my job as a seasonal Progammer, peach.

I'm not questioning your programming skills. It is your comprehension of simple basic terms like "rounded off to the nearest whole number" I am having doubts about.

I assumed everyone knew that means x.0 to x.49999..... is rounded down and x.5 to x.99999..... is rounded up. That's why the question was too dumb to answer the first time you asked it.

4294967295÷429496.7295=10000
4294967294÷429496.7295=9999.999997672
4294967293÷429496.7295=9999.999995343

etc. all get rounded up.
1357  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 12, 2019, 02:54:56 AM

The issue is we need to know what's inside the free thing,

You would know if you took the 30 seconds required to read understand the provably fair tab.


There is no information, that why I've asked and you didn't answer that key part, let I repeat, if the results are from 9999.51 - 9999.99 will it get rounded "to nearest integer" to become 10000, or it would be "rounded down" to become 9999 as similar to Multiply BTC results? If you will answer that it is truly "rounded to nearest integer" then explain why there is different in Multiply BTC game given the example: betting on 0.48% win chance or 197.92 odd, the payout would be only 196 in which equal to 197.92 less 0.92 part is stripped off (or rounded down) and less 1.00 stake.

Don't ask me to read because there is different found already, it's yours to clarify, just tell the truth.

It didn't answer because the difference between "rounded off to the nearest whole number" and "rounded down" is something anyone with primary school education will understand and comparing how the rolls are calculated to how something completely different is calculated is yet another straw man.

I will ask you to read again and explain how "rounded off to the nearest whole number" could possibly be any more clear or truthful.
1358  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 11, 2019, 03:02:40 AM
Yep its more interesting then I first thought.  I recorded my last roll details and I'll try going through till the final result so I understand better.    Some clever statistician could model this and group results to reflect the probability in outcomes.

There's no clever stats involved. The probability of any number is 10000:1 except 00000 and 10000 which are each 20000:1 chances.

Reminds me of another topic, would you teach your child gambling?  Yes I would teach my child maths because its better to know lifes risks then fear the possibilities :p

My maths teacher taught me gambling (out of the classroom) when I was doing A Level pure and applied mathematics many years ago.

The issue is we need to know what's inside the free thing,

You would know if you took the 30 seconds required to read understand the provably fair tab.

Quote
small free white powder package at the airport checkpoint
Thats a bad analogy, strawman fallacy or something.

Absolutely. There is no risk involved in taking a free roll. You can only win.
1359  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 11, 2019, 12:49:38 AM
~  Obviously most would assume 10,000 numbers reflects equally in the chances, do you have any reference or will I find this detail anywhere related to 'provably fair formula'.  

It's under the "THIS GAME IS PROVABLY FAIR!" tab right at the top of the page.

Quote
How are rolls calculated?

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

The payout table also states that possible results are 0-10000, not 1-10000 so both results 00000 and 10000 have half the chance of being rolled than any other number due to rounding.
It's free to play so I don't see any grounds for complaint that people being scammed by this.
1360  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: December 09, 2019, 09:43:34 AM
why banned me? Roll Eyes

Because of the 23 fake referrals you were using to try and steal from us.
Your friends sanyika69-54a@yahoo.com, sanyika69-55a@yahoo.com, sanyika69-57a@yahoo.com, sanyika69-58a@yahoo.com..... etc.
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