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1381  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 24, 2018, 02:40:35 PM

Oh please do go back into my statements in this thread and quote EXACTLY anything I stated that is not a hard fact. I will wait. All your horse shit that you are attributing to me, that I never said does not count.


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And just FYI, grampy TS, I'm over 50.

Adult diapers count as short pants too...

For the sake of aurgument, let's grant that you have this unique ability to emit exclusively rock solid facts and nothing but.  So what?  What are they even good for without some sort of a hypothesis to test?

You've got some puzzle pieces to play with but you don't know what to do with them because you don't understand the concept of a puzzle...or more likely are conditioned to deny the existence of such a thing or at least have an allergy to the act of working on one.

You many get lucky and live to be my age, but it is more likely if, somehow, you become a little bit more skeptical.

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BADecker is coming through with more and more hard-hitting facts.  I followed one of his links to a story about the so-called 'Spanish Flu' of 1918.  Even before I was a 'conspiracy theorist' I'd read about some oddities with that one.  Some years ago I was reading a hypothesis that since it originated in Ft. Riley where they where raising a lot of livestock for the war effort it probably came from that operation.  It was news to me that the Rockefeller Institute was also there and busy injecting some of the troops with horse pus in order to see what happened to them.  Not terribly surprising news though.



And when did I say either of you were wrong? Who said it was a unique ability? This is simply the method of debate I choose. How about you stop mindlessly postulating about my personal character and level of conditioning and get back to the topic at hand Captain Shortpants?

Rofl, I don't think you understood what he said. It's like me saying the average height in USA is 5'9 and frogs are animals and then yelling HARD FACTS!!111 But what was the point of any of those ''hard facts'' what's the conclusion?
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1383  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 22, 2018, 07:19:08 PM

None of those reasons prove god unfortunately, otherwise science and people would have come to an agreement by now.

The only reason scientists don't understand God from science is the same reason that you don't understand God from science. They and you simply don't want to. Science easily proves the existence of God in the machine-like qualities of nature. Machines have makers.

Cool

Not only scientists but more than half of the world do not agree with you. There was a time people believed the earth was flat, we proved them wrong, experiments/tests and eventually went to outer space. Now everyone (except a few nutjobs) know the earth is round. The bible had thousands of years to prove god exists and yet here we are, more than half of the people in the world do not believe in god and more and more atheists are born each year.

Scientists are normal people like you and me, they just have more knowledge, unfortunately there is no experiment/test or slight of evidence for god that can be examined and so science cannot accept god as real.

Scientists don't even agree with themselves. That's why scientific theories exist. It's the engineers who make things happen.

It's not that people don't believe that God exists. It's that they have given up on pinning Him down to their understanding, to make Him give them the things that they want the way that they want them. You are the perfect example of this. You have told yourself for such a long time that God doesn't exist that you have convinced yourself that you believe it.

Normal people die. None of them understand how life can exist. That makes life a God thing. Simple observation of the universe and life points to God without showing Him directly.

Cool

''Scientists don't even agree with themselves. That's why scientific theories exist.'' That should win an award to the stupidest statement in 2018. Scientific theories are by definition an agreement of the best explanation of a phenomenon LOL.
1384  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 22, 2018, 05:01:04 PM
^^^ Why would God not need a switch to turn the light on an off?

Your god seems to have a lot of limitations...

- Can't control light
- Can't control gravity
- Needs to rest after six days of light activity
- Can't give followers intelligence.

 Cool

Controls you entirely, giving you the limited mental function you crave so deeply.

Cool

Perhaps another god is controlling you and making you think this way, how would you ever know?
1385  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 21, 2018, 10:49:40 PM
It's just not something a regular person can claim to understand. Nor can we directly experience it's impact.

But they do. Go back through this very thread, you will see dozens of people wailing about how hot it is and that it's climate change, and carbon emissions was obviously the reason....

Oh, wait...that was in the summer....

.....Climate change is too abstract to have an opinion on.

I find that every few years the secular world comes up with an end times prophecy.

Amusing, isn't it?

The concept of something being too abstract to have an opinion on I'm going to have to mull over. Offhand I believe the abstractness INVALIDATES statements of opinion.

Do you have an OPINION on p versus np?

I guess to be a bit more accurate, what I'm getting at it's hard for an intellectually curious person not involved in these fields to have a genuinely strong conviction based on their understanding. I tried looking at the data a couple of times. It's so heterogeneous that you'd need to know a lot about the technical details of measurement techniques to even start evaluating it. And many of these things you can't easily look up, and without significant resources you won't get around to play with. I'm sure many of us have an opinion or a gut feeling one way or another and that's fine.

With something like P/NP, at least the "insiders" have less of an edge which is mostly access to other smart people thinking about it I guess?

Couldn't agree more, there is not much you can do by yourself to check any of this shit. Unlike something like the flat earth, where you can actually do tests/experiments by yourself and you don't even need a lot of scientific knowledge. I would give you merit for this post but I have 0 to give Sad
A lot of people here act like they know everything about it because they read a few articles here and there.
1386  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 21, 2018, 06:54:20 PM
They're actually pieces of the dome; it's a long grain Damascus type of manufactured nickel-iron steel alloy with a gloden oxide.

Why is the dome falling apart?

Well, why you have to ask those questions, come on... If notbatman says it's made of ''bla bla'' and it's falling, it is. Notbatman should build a rocket and crash it into the dome, easy proof.

Oh yeah... so maybe it's all those fake NASA rockets going up and crashing into the dome and making chunks of it fall down?

Come on, notbatty, we're helping you out here with the excuses. Quit slacking off, entertain us.

Sometimes pieces of old, and even new buildings break and fall off.

   "And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree." -- Isaiah 34:4, KJV

So one day a big piece of the dome will fall off and kill a lot of people? Or is it always small pieces, hmm. Also, we rebuild or repair buildings, is someone repairing the dome?
1387  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 21, 2018, 06:42:37 PM
Ya know I hate to admit it, but this thread has become my favorite on btctalk. Thanx battyboy.( or possibly battygirl, who knows...)
And I don't even need no stinkin hat.... (inside joke... apologies to the WO gang)

Maybe we should start wearing some avatars based on this thread, we could be the flat earth gang.
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1389  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 21, 2018, 04:35:35 PM
They're actually pieces of the dome; it's a long grain Damascus type of manufactured nickel-iron steel alloy with a gloden oxide.

Why is the dome falling apart?

Well, why you have to ask those questions, come on... If notbatman says it's made of ''bla bla'' and it's falling, it is. Notbatman should build a rocket and crash it into the dome, easy proof.
1390  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 21, 2018, 04:26:13 PM
if you really want to know if it's flat or round.. just go to the outer space and look it yourself.  Wink
Many people doesn't believe on this, but it was proven many times that the earth is round! Hope that helps!

No, no it doesn't help. Outer space is a hoax and there isn't a single shred of credible evidence we're on a spinning ball in a vacuum. Every so called "proof" of a globe is based on manufactured evidence, logical failicies, baseless assumptions and conflating facts.

I realize this is a stupid question, but are meteorites and such also hoaxes? I forgot to add that to my list of hoaxes you believe in...


Duhhhh! I never realized till now that OP started this prank thread on April Fools Day.

Coincidence? I think not.....

Oh man, I feel pretty silly now. You got us Notbatman. Kudos to you sir.

Meteorites are obviously parts of the dome falling DUH. That's why they are so hot, because the dome is electrified with trillions of volts and so when it breaks, it gets hot.

edit: HAHAHA I FUCKING KNEW IT, I knew he would say they are part of the dome, lmao, so predictable.
1391  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 21, 2018, 01:06:30 PM

None of those reasons prove god unfortunately, otherwise science and people would have come to an agreement by now.

The only reason scientists don't understand God from science is the same reason that you don't understand God from science. They and you simply don't want to. Science easily proves the existence of God in the machine-like qualities of nature. Machines have makers.

Cool

Not only scientists but more than half of the world do not agree with you. There was a time people believed the earth was flat, we proved them wrong, experiments/tests and eventually went to outer space. Now everyone (except a few nutjobs) know the earth is round. The bible had thousands of years to prove god exists and yet here we are, more than half of the people in the world do not believe in god and more and more atheists are born each year.

Scientists are normal people like you and me, they just have more knowledge, unfortunately there is no experiment/test or slight of evidence for god that can be examined and so science cannot accept god as real.
1392  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 21, 2018, 01:02:37 PM
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The Earth is motionless and this is an observable, repeatable, testable, documented, empirical fact:

    Aiy's Failure Experiment. -- Empirical proof the Earth is motionless.

   The Michelson & Morley Experiment. -- Empirical proof the Earth is motionless.

   The Trouton–Noble experiment.  -- Empirical proof the Earth is motionless.

   The Sagnac Experiment. -- Empirical proof of the aether.

   Prunier & Dufour's replication of The Sagnac Experiment. -- Empirical proof the theory of Special Relativity is not consistent with experiment.

- Airy’s Failure is an 1871 experiment that George Airy undertook which attempted to measure the drag on light that would change the stellar aberration of light from a suitable star that was almost overhead. The result of the experiment was that there was no evidence to support the existence of the Aether which is why its called FAILURE. The notion of a stationary Earth is not proved or denied by this experiment.

-  The Michelson & Morley Experiment: ''The Michelson-Morley experiment in 1887 indicated that if the Earth was in orbit, as other observations confirmed, then Aether could not exist''

- Sagnac: What he detected was actually the Sagnac effect and a measure of the angular velocity of the device, the Sagnac effect provides a simple demonstration that the Earth is in fact rotating on its axis, and you can measure this with a suitable gyroscope.

So basically you believe Airy's proved the earth is motionless, although at the same time it proves aether doesn't exist hen you also believe Michelson proves the earth is motionless but also proves aether doesn't exist and the at the same time you think sagnac experiment proves aether exists. This is the problem with you and the flat earth, all the ''theories'' you have contradict each other.

So we can conclude that the earth is not flat from this, thank you. Unless you can replicate and interpret each experiment by yourself, notbatman. You shouldn't believe any of that ever happened.
1393  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 20, 2018, 11:17:25 PM

Well since there is no way to know which god is the real one, allah, jesus, zeus, etc etc there is no point in trying to believe in any of the, not that you can force yourself to believe anyways.

It's true that your post doesn't say much of anything regarding which God is the real God. But there are ways to find out which one.

One of the ways is to count the numbers of hand written copies of the books of each of these. The Bible beats out all the rest hands down, which would be impossible if it weren't backed by God.

Scientific examinations of the writings prove the Bible in many ways.

The fact that there are way more copies of the Bible being spread around the world, helps.

The fact that the nation of Israel has been around since 1500 BC, helps.

We can see that the God of the Bible is the real God.

Cool

''One of the ways is to count the numbers of hand written copies of the books of each of these'' And why is that arbitrary reason the best way to find which god is the real one? Who decided that's the best way to know?

''Scientific examinations of the writings prove the Bible in many ways.'' Scientific examinations of the bible indicate it has many scientific flaws, anyhow muslims claim their ''bible'' is the best one, just like Hinduism, Judaism, etc etc, they all think their book/understanding is the best.

None of those reasons prove god unfortunately, otherwise science and people would have come to an agreement by now.
1394  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 20, 2018, 08:17:07 PM
Oh shit. Notbatman got busted for real this time. I'm still waiting for the day where he says that all of this was a joke, it will be epic.
1395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 20, 2018, 05:35:58 PM

You two knuckleheads almost got it, but not quite yet. One need to try harder...

Hint:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+23%3A39-43&version=NASB

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But if that isn't enough to prove you are a sinner, just walk through a cemetery and look at the dates. Most of them couldn't figure out how to live over 100 years. And there aren't any records of anyone presently alive who is over 200 years. You ain't good enough to not sin.

But you will rise in the resurrection.

Cool

You never know man, maybe god gets mad again and kills everyone with another flood, that guy is bipolar.

You're just as dead if you die of old age. So, the point isn't dying. The point is where you will stand in the resurrection... with or against God.

Why would you think that there won't be a resurrection? The only facts that we have that prove that life is possible are that life is here. We don't know why or how it could come about. Since we are so ignorant, why would you think that it can't happen a second time, since it couldn't happen the first time, scientifically?

Why do you think God is bipolar? I mean, if you buy your poor kid a dozen houses, two dozen cars, several jet planes, and give him a bunch of women to play with, and you do it with the best and greatest of your funds...
... and the kid burns all the houses down, crashes all the cars and planes, and beats and kills the women, what would you think about him? How much more could he dishonor you and all your gifts? Wouldn't you just about be ready to go out and eliminate him from the earth?

But that is the way people treated God after he made all things for them. And you take it one step further. You won't even honor God enough to admit that He exists. You above all people don't deserve any of the good He does for you. And you know it. That's why you are worried about another flood.

Cool

Well since there is no way to know which god is the real one, allah, jesus, zeus, etc etc there is no point in trying to believe in any of the, not that you can force yourself to believe anyways.
1396  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 20, 2018, 05:32:29 PM
if you really want to know if it's flat or round.. just go to the outer space and look it yourself.  Wink
Many people doesn't believe on this, but it was proven many times that the earth is round! Hope that helps!

No, no it doesn't help. Outer space is a hoax and there isn't a single shred of credible evidence we're on a spinning ball in a vacuum. Every so called "proof" of a globe is based on manufactured evidence, logical failicies, baseless assumptions and conflating facts.

Every single experiment you listed has been debunked, even by their authors. They are not facts, they are garbage discarded experiments that were proven wrong. You are a proven liar, sorry.
1397  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 20, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
I'm a shrink.
And you need to repent from your unprofitable atheism and turn to The Living God - Jesus Christ, otherwise you're at risk loosing (that's losing ,you dumbass)your soul in eternal hellfire.

Think about it.

Bonus video as my gift to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MpFn3-GFOo


You are a shrink eh?
Well brass monkeys are flying out my ass, bud.

I got thru the first 10 seconds of your "educational" video and that was a chore.
Oh, and learn the difference between "lose" (opposite of find) and "loose"( opposite of tight) ya fucking moron.
Oh yes , I'll think about it alright...
Excuse me now while I wait for your magic sky fairy to burn me in  imaginary hell....

I don't even bother clicking on his links anymore, this guy is truly nuts. I think notbatman could be a troll, exemplar is definitely insane though.

I don't understand why a god would need anyone to believe in him and 'repent'. Why is doing that better than being a good person all the time?
So a murderer that repents goes to heaven.
A person that was good all his life goes to hell for not believing in god.

Yeah..

You two knuckleheads almost got it, but not quite yet. One need to try harder...

Hint:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+23%3A39-43&version=NASB

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bonus:



But if that isn't enough to prove you are a sinner, just walk through a cemetery and look at the dates. Most of them couldn't figure out how to live over 100 years. And there aren't any records of anyone presently alive who is over 200 years. You ain't good enough to not sin.

But you will rise in the resurrection.

Cool

You never know man, maybe god gets mad again and kills everyone with another flood, that guy is bipolar.
1398  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 20, 2018, 01:34:08 PM
Have you ever heard of the Dunning kruger effect, TECSHARE?

Hard facts eh? How do you know what a hard fact is? If I present any statistical evidence about vaccines doing what they are supposed to do, you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government''

Hard facts lmao.
1399  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 19, 2018, 11:06:21 PM

I didn't defend the article, I defended the facts. If any of the statements I made were not factual, please do enlighten me.

Then don't quote me when we are talking about the article that badecker posted because thats the debate, mate, maybe you should learn how to read. His point was that because they did not file some reports they have been lying for 30 years which is simply not true as shown above. He keeps saying there are no safety reports/tests which is again simply not true.

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/del-bigtree-vaccine-safety-complaints-hhs-responds/

I don't know what your point is. Yes they did NOT file the required reports of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 but they have done all the required work to make sure vaccines are safe.

But you clearly were not just referring to the article, you were also referring to the ruling that the government has been in violation of reporting laws FOR YEARS. Sorry, if you don't like me pointing out your disingenuous arguments, don't make them.

''reporting laws FOR YEARS'' Of specific reports. If they filed 100 reports but 2 of them weren't filed, would that mean they are faking the whole thing? Shit happens, the lawsuit was settled, wasn't it? Just because they didn't file those reports, it doesn't mean they didn't take cafe of the safety of the vaccines. Pointing out they didn't file those specific reports accomplishes nothing, what's the conclusion from that?

I don't know, did you actually even bother to read it? I did. The lawsuit was only settled because it was a FOIA request, and the documents they requested, which were required to be filed by law, were never filed. As a result it was impossible to comply with the FISA request, resulting in the "settled" status. The conclusion is the government is not following the law. None of your other extremist red herring arguments matter, because I never made those arguments.


''The conclusion is the government is not following the law.'' The conclusion is that the government did not follow the law on that specific case on those specific reports. However, the first argument was ''government doesn't give a shit about safety reports because of this lawsuit'' That's simply not true as shown above. I don't know what your argument is, this thread is about vaccines being bad for you intentionally. Are you sure you know what your position is?
1400  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 19, 2018, 09:31:06 PM
So pretty much everyone is a fucking jew and is pushing the globe hoax, the pope, the government, the military, everyone, literally everyone, are you fucking insane exemplar?
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