Once again I am, as a father, a husband, a brother, and a son, absolutely disgusted and terrified by the things that apparently some guys find tolerable.
I am, as a father, a husband, an uncle, a brother, and a son, absolutely amazed at the level of stupidity and naiveté continuing to be exhibited by young ladies in situations where their instincts should tell them to have their guard and radar up and functioning. Honestly, just about all of them understand what it's like to fear violation. I think this is really why so many go to such great lengths to excuse this sort of thing when it happens. He admits that forcing women to have sex with him is the only way in which he can get laid. Au contraire. There is no fun in forced sex. All that crying, screaming and physical restraints. I just pay cash to get laid. Female escorts bring no emotional baggage to the table, or bed as the case may be; I don't have to listen to their problems, they listen to mine; and best of all, they can give most porn stars a run for their money in the sack. And all I have to do is give up a few hundred bucks. Not a bad investment, right? In this thread you admit you cannot have sex with women unless you pay them ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi2Yqcm78sYFace it, all men pay women for sex. Some, like me, pay with cash. Others use barter goods such as food, shelter and clothing. Many additionally pay with their dreams and souls. others are ordered by courts to continue to pay for sex long after the woman and sex are gone. Cash is king. You only pay for what you need, when you need it. |
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Once again I am, as a father, a husband, a brother, and a son, absolutely disgusted and terrified by the things that apparently some guys find tolerable.
I am, as a father, a husband, an uncle, a brother, and a son, absolutely amazed at the level of stupidity and naiveté continuing to be exhibited by young ladies in situations where their instincts should tell them to have their guard and radar up and functioning. Honestly, just about all of them understand what it's like to fear violation. I think this is really why so many go to such great lengths to excuse this sort of thing when it happens. He admits that forcing women to have sex with him is the only way in which he can get laid. Au contraire. There is no fun in forced sex. All that crying, screaming and physical restraints. I just pay cash to get laid. Female escorts bring no emotional baggage to the table, or bed as the case may be; I don't have to listen to their problems, they listen to mine; and best of all, they can give most porn stars a run for their money in the sack. And all I have to do is give up a few hundred bucks. Not a bad investment, right? |
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To those saying she is faking it or she wasn't really raped or this and that, you should know that Columbia has taken NO action whatsoever against the rapist, no investigation, despite there being reports of three other women being serially raped by this privileged student. In other words, the woman must have wanted it or precipitated the violation on some level, because the idea of being so utterly powerless as to stop someone from penetrating you is so threatening that most males cannot conceive of finding themselves in such a situation. It doesn't even occur to them that the victim wouldn't have taken every precaution possible, up to and including not making oneself attractive, to avoid being violated, because most males would if they thought violation was possible.
Rape apologist I didn't said that she fake it ,i was saying that on this planet exist "the woman must have wanted it" |
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In other words, the woman must have wanted it or precipitated the violation on some level, because the idea of being so utterly powerless as to stop someone from penetrating you is so threatening that most males cannot conceive of finding themselves in such a situation. It doesn't even occur to them that the victim wouldn't have taken every precaution possible, up to and including not making oneself attractive, to avoid being violated, because most males would if they thought violation was possible.
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Once again I am, as a father, a husband, a brother, and a son, absolutely disgusted and terrified by the things that apparently some guys find tolerable.
I am, as a father, a husband, an uncle, a brother, and a son, absolutely amazed at the level of stupidity and naiveté continuing to be exhibited by young ladies in situations where their instincts should tell them to have their guard and radar up and functioning. Honestly, just about all of them understand what it's like to fear violation. I think this is really why so many go to such great lengths to excuse this sort of thing when it happens. |
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Henry Ford learned of a process for turning wood scraps from the production of Model T's into charcoal briquets. He built a charcoal plant, and the rest is history. The Kingsford Company was formed when E.G. Kingsford, a relative of Ford's, brokered the site selection for Ford's new charcoal manufacturing plant. The company, originally called Ford Charcoal, was renamed Kingsford® Charcoal in his honor.
Today, the Kingsford Products Company remains the leading manufacturer of charcoal in the U.S. More than 1 million tons of wood scraps are converted into quality charcoal briquets every year.
Barbequing with charcoal has become immensely popular since Ford's time.
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hey bitcoininformatin I got payment but I didnt want to leave the campaign, how come I got payment?
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When you see the word Eternal in the Bible it refers to God, or all things related to God. So we did go over this, the Eternal fire is a synonym for God, its not a fire that burns forever. If you review the thread you will see what death is, you will see the wicked are destroyed, devoured, not left root or branch. Eternal Punishment is death for eternity, no hope of life again
Psalm 68:2 ...'As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.'
Why do the wicked perish at the presence of God? because God is the eternal fire, all consuming
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President Obama has killed more terrorist leaders than any President before him. He's ALWAYS taken terrorism seriously.
Also killed more innocent civilians don't leave out that part…Also without a whisper from the left…And actually, has he killed more terrorist leaders?Keyword leaders… |
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They will be instantly put to death by fire( 2 Thess 2;8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:)at the first resurrection, for those who believe in 2 resurrections, the second death is the judgment where each answers for their works. It would be consistent when seeing such things as "it will be more tolerable for some than others", BTW, some may be consumed instantly, but some won't
Revelation 20:12 ...'and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,according to their works.'
Revelation 21:6-8 ...'And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.'
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Right, a period of time which is not eternal. The term forever found in the bible translates 'aion' in the Greek meaning a period of time. It could be though some, depending on how great the sin, takes more time in the fire
Cor 3;13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Malachi 3:2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap
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The beast and false prophet are works of satan which could mean his works are destroyed before him, thus where the beast and false are
Is your question leading to proving eternal torment in some way?
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The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Notice, was, is not, and yet is which means we can't know when all this takes place really, just some time table only God knows. However the bottomless pit is still only in reference to wicked angels as some prison, but maybe a more restraining prison then tatoros. So even if this can be seen as a 4th hell (which i don't believe it is) it still is for demons not mankind
Now, is the author agreeing or not that the beast and false prophet have been there in lake the entire 1000 years? They were put there at the start, and they are still there after 1000 years. I can't speak to the 1000 years because i haven't decided what it means exactly, but i'm leaning toward a future time, because the beast and false prophet in my mind still exist here. |
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The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Notice, was, is not, and yet is which means we can't know when all this takes place really, just some time table only God knows. However the bottomless pit is still only in reference to wicked angels as some prison, but maybe a more restraining prison then tatoros. So even if this can be seen as a 4th hell (which i don't believe it is) it still is for demons not mankind
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So,Sana8410,From what the book is sayign the word abyss (Greek abussos) is found nine times in the New Testament.
Translated seven times as "bottomless pit' in Revelation.
The other two are in Luke and Romans.
Luke 8:31 - They were imploring Him not to command them to go away into the abyss
Romans 10:7 - or, Who shall descend into the abyss? (That is, to bring Christ up from the dead.)
Romans 10;7, the word 'deep' is in the KJV for Abyss and the context is talking about a desire to see Israel saved so i don't know what that would mean in that context In luke 8;31 the demons don't want to go into the Abyss, which is the bottomless pit we can conclude. In Revelation an angel comes from Heaven with a key to the bottomless pit, he opens it and smoke comes out, and a beast comes out and makes war against the 2 witnesses. So the Abyss at some point becomes part of the prison for the demons, and at some point they are locked and sealed back in this pit, but revelation tends to span through a time period that we can't understand. An example of this is maybe in REV 17;8 |
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Three hells! The starting point for such an investigation can be none other than the very book from which Christians profess to derive their doctrine of hell - the Bible! By scrutinizing its pages, one can strip away the theological trappings of ancient and medieval myth and fabrication and discover the true teaching on the subject. One's first surprise is that the Bible speaks of not one but of three different "hells"! In the widely used King James Version, three totally different Greek words - words with totally different meanings-are translated by the one English word hell. The three words are hades, tartaros and gehenna. In biblical usage, the Greek word hades - used only II times in the New Testament - is roughly equivalent to the Old Testament Hebrew word sheol, meaning grave or pit (compare Acts 2:27 with Psalm 16:10). Hades may be likened to a hole in the ground. In the Bible it has nothing to do with fire. Most modern biblical translators admit that the use of the English word hell to translate hades and sheol is an unfortunate and misleading practice. Why? Because in seeing the word hell, many readers impute to it the traditional connotation of an ever-burning inferno - when this was never remotely intended in the Greek language or in Old English! In its true biblical usage, hades does indeed refer to the state or abode of the dead - but not in the sense of spirits walking around in some sort of "shadowy realm." Hades is simply the abode we call the grave. All the dead go to this hell. The Second Hell The second hell of the Bible, tartaros, is mentioned only once in scripture - in II Peter 2:4: "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell[tartaroo], and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment. Following their rebellion to unseat God from His throne (Isa. 14:12-14; Rev. 12:4), the archangel Lucifer (now Satan) and a third of the created angels (demons) were ejected from heaven (Luke 10:18). They were cast down to tartaros, a place or condition of restraint that God has imposed on the mutinous angels as they await ultimate judgment (Jude 6; I Cor. 6:3). Tartaros, then, is a "hell" that applies only to evil, rebellious angels or demons. It is interesting that the ancient Greeks used this word to describe the place in which Zeus confined the rebellious Titans. Nowhere in the Bible is there any mention of men being put into this particular "hell." The Third Hell So far, we have seen that the first hell of the Bible - hades - is simply the grave. The second hell -tartaros - a place or condition of restraint for demons. What, then, is the third hell of the Bible? Surely, it must be the old fashioned Bible "hell"- the literal ever-burning inferno, the place of eternal torment of the damned! Or is it? Did you ever notice that the Greek word used by the writers of the New Testament for this third hell is gehenna? It comes from the Hebrew Gai Hinnom, meaning"valley of Hinnom." Hinnom is a deep, narrow ravine located to the south and southwest of Jerusalem. It is to this hell that I recently traveled. But what does this valley have to do with the traditional Christian concept of "hell"? The answer may surprise you! Lunch in Hell Gehenna - the valley of Hinnom - is today a relatively pleasant place. In recent years, grass and even some flowers have taken over portions of the valley floor, and there are plenty of trees to provide shade from the scorching sun (see photos on these pages - {Editor's note: Sorry, pictures not included.}). I descended into the valley by means of a rocky dirt path. A small dog - no three-headed Cerberus! - barked briefly, then returned to scavenging in a small cave near the path. Further on down the valley two boys were kicking a soccer ball between them. I sought refuge from the heat of the noon sun under a large tree, and took out my lunch. A few birds came by for a handout. The surroundings were not unlike those of a typical city park. After enjoying a leisurely lunch, I headed up out of the valley and proceeded unimpeded toward the Jaffa Gate. My memory of the valley is one of a pleasant and relaxing haven in the midst of a hot and tiring walking tour of Jerusalem. Gehenna, in short, is a far cry from the hell of Dante or from what this valley was like in Jesus day! The valley was not always such a pleasant place. In the Old Testament it was a place of abominable pagan rites, including infant sacrifice. It was there that the apostate kings Ahaz and Manasseh made their children "pass through the fire" to the god Molech. The rites were specifically celebrated in Tophet, the "place of abhorrence," one of the chief groves in the valley King Josiah of ancient Judah finally put an end to these abominations. He defiled the valley, rendering it ceremonially unclean (II Kings 23:10). Later the valley became the cesspool and city dump of Jerusalem - a repository for sewage, refuse and animal carcasses. The bodies of despised criminals were also burned there along with the rubbish. Fires burned continuously, feeding on a constant supply of garbage and refuse. Aceldama, the "field of blood", purchased with the money Judas received for the betrayal of Christ (Matt. 27:  was also in part of the valley of Hinnom. Gehenna-and the Lake of Fire What, then, does this valley called gehenna have to do with hell? Notice. At the end of this age, at the crisis at the end of this world's civilization, the prophesied Beast of the book of Revelation - a Satan-inspired political dictator and a miracle-working religious figure, the False Prophet, working with him will resist the re-establishment of the government of God by fighting against Jesus Christ at His Second Coming. Their fate is revealed by the apostle John: "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet.... These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (Rev. 19:20). Where will this temporary lake of fire - this "hell" - be? The prophet Isaiah wrote of this lake of fire prepared for the Beast: "For Tophet [in the valley of Hinnom] is ordained of old, yea, for the king it is prepared, he hath made it deep and large, the pile thereof is fire and wood, the breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it" (Isa. 30:33). One thousand years later, Satan himself will be cast into this rekindled fiery lake where the Beast and False Prophet were cast! (See Revelation 20:10.) But what of the wicked who have died over the many millennia? Does the Bible say that they are now suffering fiery punishment for their sins in a lake of fire? Absolutely not! In the sequence of Revelation 20 - read it for yourself - the incorrigibly wicked are resurrected to be thrown into the lake of fire after Satan is cast there! Read it, in Revelation 20:15. What, then, will become of these wicked? Will they writhe in flames for eternity? No! The wicked will be burned up in the intense heat of the coming gehenna fire on earth. They will be consumed, annihilated, destroyed! This punishment will be everlasting - permanent and final. The Bible calls it the "second death" (Rev. 20:14; 21: - from which there is no possibility of a further resurrection. The Bible does teach eternal punishment, but not eternal punishing. The prophet Malachi provides a graphic description. "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, and the day that cometh shall burn them up…(4:1). To the righteous, God says that the wicked shall be "ashes under the soles of your feet . (Mal. 4:3). http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/tohell.htmI actually read recently of five words for hell and as zimmah mentioned . One Hebrew, four Greek. The above is just referring to the Greek, so the difference between the two is the word 'Abyss'. Sheol (from the Hebrew) Hades, Gehenna, Tartaroo and Abyss. Abyss is found nine times, and is translated 'bottomless pit' in Revelation, according to Perry Stone's 'Secrets from Beyond the Grave'. Got the book last summer when camping, but, lost the driver in reading it, so I have not gotten far with it. The bottomless pit, or pit is as far as i know only found in revelation, Abyss a couple times in other versions in the NT. I would say its the same as tartaros since it always refers to fallen angels. Good luck trying to figure out what is in revelation when referring to bottomless pit, its all symbolic. None of it suggests mankind ever spends any time there |
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I'm not suggesting that should be enough to land a conviction. It shouldn't. The deck is already stacked against defendants as it is. I don't think making it easier to convict people would be a step in the right direction. I think first acknowledging that we live in a rape culture and then addressing that problem by creating an environment in which girls can talk about being victimized without everyone immediately assuming they're lying would be a better direction.
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Every time this topic comes up I find myself wondering how these things end up in university "justice" systems instead of in courts of law, which is where we would normally deal with things like accusations of rape, murder, physical assault, etc.
I have to agree with this. I'm out of touch with this topic. Why isn't this a police/court thing rather than a university thing? Without hard evidence, there won't be a conviction. There almost always needs to be documented signs of forced penetration. Girls need to go to a hospital immediately after being raped to get their injuries documented. Most don't do this because they're scared, embarrassed, blaming themselves, etc. The overwhelming majority of rape victims are raped by guys who are close to them, which is why rape victims tend to blame themselves, assuming they must have given their friend a mixed signal or some such. By the time they realize it wasn't just some innocent mistake or anything like that, that they were assaulted and raped, it's too late to get the ball rolling. They'll have to deal with responding to why they waited so long to report it, why they didn't go to a hospital, why they may have called or seen their rapist the next day, etc. Ultimately, they're not going to satisfy the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof. |
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Every time this topic comes up I find myself wondering how these things end up in university "justice" systems instead of in courts of law, which is where we would normally deal with things like accusations of rape, murder, physical assault, etc.
Standard of proof is too high in court. Rape victims don't want to go through months of reliving the encounter in court being forced to face their assailant only for him to ultimately be found not guilty due to a lack of evidence, a verdict that is then held over the rape victim by a society that likes to imagine that girls always "lie" about being raped. |
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So where did it all go wrong? Well, it started with the Pequots. Who, you ask? The Pequot tribe have a reservation in, of all places, Connecticut. And not being subject to Connecticut law - or even US law, for the most part - they opened up the Foxwood Casino; and in doing so, bled off a fair amount of gambling traffic from NY and southern New England that had been going to Atlantic City. But the killing stroke was the legalization of casino gambling in Pennsylvania. There are now four major casinos in the city of Philadelphia, and yes, that has effectively killed the market for Atlantic City. Sure, some still go there, but mostly, the draw to AC has become the Jersey Shore crowds. And that makes it essentially seasonal. It's no coincidence that these casinos shutting down did so in September. Jersey Shore businesses - like Boardwalk stores, entertainment piers and restaurants - have long understood that they are seasonal, and that they need to make as much money as possible between late spring and early autumn to get them through the lean months of winter. Hell, many of those businesses actually shut down and lock the doors between October and April. Unfortunately, that's not a feasible business model for casino resorts.
Could the same thing happen to Las Vegas? Well, sure it could. It's just not likely. California is never going to allow LA to have casino gambling. It's just not going to happen. Not to mention that LA has earthquakes. And Phoenix? how would they ever be able to draw crowds away from the already established Las Vegas? So no, Vegas is in no danger any time soon of being wrecked by competition as AC has been. In any case, one has to be a pretty shallow and uninformed "thinker" (it really HAS to be in quotes, because the term is being used almost ironically) try and blame the failure of Atlantic City casinos on President Obama.
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