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1421  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 08, 2014, 05:14:10 PM
Ok, then give me facts, why it is a ponzi? Or why it is not a ponzi? You see, we know nothing, only assumptions.... Wink

It is a ponzi scam because they use incoming payments from new customers to pay old customers. It is fraud because they aren't even paying out the correct amounts anymore. These are both well established facts.
1422  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 08, 2014, 05:14:02 AM
Where they explained that the payouts 10(!)  times lower now?

we changed our formula to include other factors.

Your payouts are now based on "other factors". Factors like "PBMining wants to buy a new Lamborghini" means you get lower payouts.
1423  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 08, 2014, 04:04:40 AM
Let PBM come to the table and explain to us what is actually going on.

They already explained. They didn't like paying out the old rate, so they cut everyone's payouts.

Assume the position... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ
1424  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 08, 2014, 01:33:00 AM
Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.

Ever hear of Mark Karpeles?
1425  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 07, 2014, 11:14:40 PM
My point stands though : You do not and cannot KNOW how their Payouts are calculated, but yes you are free to make an Educated Guess just like everyone else ...

It used to be posted on the website but have since removed it so they can change the terms of the contract anytime they want.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140719195343/http://www.pbmining.com/

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At Piggyback Mining, we cover the electricity costs and all pool fees.

Oh, look, they removed that from the website also. Anyone who ordered a contract before that was removed from the website is being stolen from.
1426  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TERABOX - Cheapest mining contracts - from 0.0012/Ghs! on: December 07, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Based in Israel if yo must know Smiley

That's a start. What is the company’s name or its corporation number?
1427  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 07, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
All i care are my weekly payouts. Not what they mine, where they mine, who they mine. I not want to know.

All you care about are partial weekly payouts. Since you like getting paid less than 100%, how about you send me 10% of every payout you receive?
1428  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TERABOX - Cheapest mining contracts - from 0.0012/Ghs! on: December 07, 2014, 08:24:23 PM
Hardware specs will not be discussed as I'm not allowed to talk about it yet. Miners will be available for sale, some limited amount and all info will be posted in January.
My understanding when reading posts here in this forum is that some people are never satisfied with given info. We have posted photos of miners and DC and this is whey more then any other company did. Now you want to know spec, mining addresses, if we give this info another person will ask if they can visit facility, then if they can take apart miner....seems this never ends as there will always be people sceptic about it....answer is simple...order a miner and do all your work yourself

Ok, so we've established you aren't mining. Maybe you can answer a simplier question. Where is your business located? I'd like to know where to search when you run away with the bitcoins.
1429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans. on: December 07, 2014, 08:14:27 PM
Is the class dead because I added my orders to that? Who's got the details for lawyers working on the case?

It has not been certified as a class action yet. You can find all the relevant details at the docket:

http://ia600704.us.archive.org/31/items/gov.uscourts.paed.489513/gov.uscourts.paed.489513.docket.html
1430  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 07, 2014, 07:57:57 PM
well, at least we got paid

No, you got robbed around 15%.
1431  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TERABOX - Cheapest mining contracts - from 0.0012/Ghs! on: December 07, 2014, 06:01:59 AM
you make no sense, we are not PB mining and we do not do things like they did. There is  no single payout or deposit address and not all members would get paid with freshly mined coins. Same thing as with ghash and cex. Every user has it's own wallet on terabox for deposits, so you are saying that when someone buys GHS for 1BTC we should take this 1BTC from the site, and put back freshly mined coins into the system for payouts? Makes no sense to me to be honest. If hot wallet get's empty for some reason we will fill it with new coins, investigate them as much as you like but sooner or later you will be track their origin, we are not using any mixing services.

If you have a mining farm, you will have freshly minted coins. Prove it. Show your mined blocks.
1432  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Definitive proof pbmining owner is a scammer on: December 07, 2014, 05:21:22 AM
I know that there are a large number of cloud mining sites that probably are a scam one way or another. Short of having a whistleblower inside the company I don't think anyone is going to be able to provide proof of such until they decide to scam and stop paying.

PBMining has stopped sending out full payments. They are skimming the payouts. They are now absolutely confirmed as a scam.
1433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: December 07, 2014, 03:26:42 AM
I tried to sell this pile of shit to anyone who would take my order way back before they missed the may deadline cause i saw the writing on the wall sadly so did anyone who was looking to buy a miner.

This one's for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBUL7epV4h4
1434  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Pics of Large Bitcoin Mine Under Construction on: December 07, 2014, 01:39:48 AM
Hey guys, I thought I'd give y'all a sneak peak of the Bitcoin mine we're building.
I'm excited for when we'll open our doors January.

If you have any questions about the build let me know!

Looks good. How certain are you on the opening date? What if you are delayed?
1435  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What mining companies are recommended? Re: BFL fucked us over again on: December 07, 2014, 01:32:18 AM
Which mining companies are recommended now? and does others use Amazon EC2? I'm renting for m7m algo, need some opinions for others tested mining rigs.

There's only 2 worth considering:

1. Bitmain has the price advantage.
2. Spondoolies has the quality advantage.
1436  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TERABOX - Cheapest mining contracts - from 0.0012/Ghs! on: December 07, 2014, 01:11:11 AM
Who's got a payout address? Let's see where they are getting their coins (because we all know they aren't mining).

1FdTPYVKD176xPyJiK3ekswHf7M9i1F7Vm

No surprise there. No mined coins in recent history. Ponzi. Good luck.
1437  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 06, 2014, 11:58:05 PM
If you had a strong suspicion that our business is fraudulent then you should have taken that up with legal authorities

Good idea. Let me check your website for your business info so I can have you served ...

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PB Mining is a fully trusted business in SK, Canada

Well, that's pretty minimal results. Let me try the CA business search page ...

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpSrch.html?locale=en_CA

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Results: 0 of 0

Please post your official business registrations:

Corporate Name:
Corporation Number:
Business Number (BN):
1438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans. on: December 05, 2014, 09:25:30 PM
News flash: If you haven't filed a lawsuit, you aren't getting anything.
1439  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TERABOX - Cheapest mining contracts - from 0.0012/Ghs! on: December 05, 2014, 08:48:39 PM
Who's got a payout address? Let's see where they are getting their coins (because we all know they aren't mining).
1440  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 05, 2014, 08:42:16 PM
Oh well, that´s how it goes

increased demand leads to higher prices.

And of course the extremely consistent and reliable service will fetch
a certain premium I guess.

You mean paying out lower than promised payouts? You call that reliable?
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