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1461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Brainstorm] Implications of Blacklisting DPR's Seized Bitcoins on: October 28, 2013, 03:00:17 AM
Output scripts are contracts. The contracts precisely specify what conditions are both necessary and sufficient for an output to be spent.

If the Bitcoin network ever stops honouring these contracts, then the currency and the network have a value of zero.

Correct. This idea of blacklisting bitcoin addresses is the most stupid idea ever, including even the stupidest ideas in the stupid film Dumb and Dumber.

The $2,200 million valuation of Bitcoin would be flushed down the toilet if the stupid idea of blacklisting ever got any traction.


1462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: October 28, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..

100 msc per btc, plus 10% extra per week before the deadline.
1463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 19, 2013, 10:18:35 AM
Bloody hell, gox is on a screamer. Is this the stampede for the door we have been thinking might happen over the last few months?
BTC-E is $26 adrift. Massive lag.
1464  Economy / Economics / Re: Chase Bank limits withdrawls, Bans international wires on: October 18, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
Quote from: Singlebyte link=topic=312559.msg3356339#msg3356339 date=1382024305

FYI

--Also the article has now been updated with additional information--

[i
"We are now receiving reports from business partners who we know well that they are being told by their banks that similar regulations to those adopted by Chase are coming within the next few months."[/i]

It is this type of crap which makes me an even bigger Bitcoin believer (which I didn't think was possible). Fiat is in its death throes - Bitcoin is the future!
1465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 16, 2013, 07:48:14 AM

post-april-crash high is 166 on gox. While one might argue we should rather look at bitstamp for clearing this, it's still the case: next stop after 166 would be all-time-high.


Agreed. 166 might be the stop for bitstamp, but 180 is more likely the next stop for mtgox. The extra $14 being the gox-premium for degraded fiat, which wasn't the case when gox was last at 166
1466  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 08, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
Watch This and start to panic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hgA9j-4dB0

Former World bank Person Speaks out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and she buys Bitcoin

170,000 TONS of gold in vaults in Hawaii?  Is this the profits of the "superentity" which controls 60% of the biggest 43,000 companies??

Wild stuff, so might be more than 1 screw loose in her head.
1467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 08, 2013, 06:29:25 AM
Dat action. Below 6k vol again. If it hits 4k we are well over-due for some real volume.

Bitstamp volume today at 11.3k approaching double that of gox, and BTCE at 4.5k closing in too. This is a worrying sign for gox HQ. They really are circling the drain...
1468  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 08, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
I Just got a >90000 CAD swift withdrawl fram Sept. 9 although it was less
that 90000 because i paid the 5% emergency fee.
Everything seems good with Gox. They are an upstanding business
having temporary problems due to governments and third parties.

i paid the 5% now standard withdraw fee

They are an "upstanding" business having permanent problems due to incompetence

fixed that for you

Agreed oyvinds.
CAD $4,500 fee for a single wire transfer is a painful eye-gouge.  Being happy with that makes me think of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
1469  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 08, 2013, 12:58:52 AM
My wire withdrawal in USD to a European bank from 2 Sep hadn't processed after over a month. I elected to use a manual transfer for a 5% fee. Eventually I was told they couldn't manually transfer USD. They said they could instead transfer AUD to an Australian bank. I cancelled, bought BTC and transferred those to another exchange and withdrew the USD from there. Doesn't look like USD wires work to any country atm.

Consistent with the earlier explanation:

[07:42] <cyro432> I am aware of a number of delayed wire transfers over 3 weeks old
[07:42] <@MagicalTux> cyro432: not much we can do right now because of US govt

Now 2 months since Mt Gox's last official statement on the matter.
1470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 04:33:05 AM
On topic. The rapid recovery from the SR news shows massive support in the market for the $130-140 level on mtgox ($120-125 on bitstamp).
1471  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: SECRET: This is how a bitcoin mining pool makes big money on: October 02, 2013, 07:29:24 PM
(free gift from his royal highness b!z)

How to triple your money

Dice 1 BTC at 3x and win to get 3 BTC
Dice 100 BTC at 3x and win to get 300 BTC
Dice 10 000 BTC at 3x and win to get 30 000 BTC

This method is completely flawless!

Or you could do 1767 BTC at 92% re-staking the lot 10x over - and double your money.
1472  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 02, 2013, 04:32:43 AM
We are not talking chicken feed here so it would be worth teh hassle to setup a shell in a wire friendly location ..ireland,cayman islds, swiss ...the countrys are endless and do 1 tx to this account and then distribute en masse

Absolutely! As clearly the Japanese banking system still uses the abacus and carrier pigeons then why doesn't mtgox do exactly this ^^^ (unless they don't have the money  Huh)
1473  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Catchup Attack - An Attack on the Bitcoin Blockchain - Is such a thing possible? on: October 01, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
This thread answers this one: "What is all this computing power used for?" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=305182.0
1474  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2013-09] Video - FEC to vote on Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Hmm. Is the FEC "shutdown" or "essential"?
1475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: October 01, 2013, 09:11:17 PM
A wagered amount of 3,773,544 with a house edge of 1% implies expectation of bank profit of 37,735.
JD is 40,000 below expectation. That is 3-4 Nakowas. Rather strange.

Indeed. And then consider the investor bankroll is approximately the same as 37,735, and that JD has only been running a few months. So, is it reasonable for all the investors to expect a 100% profit after a few months?

Or is it more likely that there is not 37,735 of coins in gamblers hands which are prepared to be lost and the 3.7m total turnover is much higher than would be supported by organic growth because for some reason the 1% edge is not having the expected effect of draining the supply of gambler coins.

1476  Economy / Economics / Re: Real money vs debt, and the value of bitcoin. (Mitchell-Innes credit theory) on: October 01, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
Each time the Fed prints a dollar it is producing a paper claim on a dollar worth of future taxes to be paid to the US Treasury by the US taxpayers. The Treasury has sub-contracted the monetizing of its tax income stream to the Fed. The "loaning" in this situation arises because the tax income does not yet exist, so is a Treasury debt to the dollar holder (since 1971 repayable only in printed dollars  Smiley)
1477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 01, 2013, 06:37:14 AM

The handle is ready to fire!

1478  Economy / Speculation / Re: U.S. Debt Default Bullish for Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2013, 03:33:58 AM
One also has to consider the impact of QE ("printing" of USD) by the FED. I mean will the FED keep buying the defaulted US Government obligations?

That QE printing is exactly the source of money for the 40% deficit spending which is what keeps the USG going. Basically the shutdown is the result of Congress finally ordering the Fed to stop printing.

The USG cannot go bankrupt because it has massive tax revenues which exceed bond obligations (at present). However it has so much committed to other spending plans that pruning those will be an austerity path of Grecian proportions (without any ECB "assistance").

IMHO, in a few days either Boehner or Obama will wimp out and deficit spending will continue as per normal. Dollar debasement to continue, Bitcoin UP.
1479  Economy / Speculation / Re: U.S. Debt Default Bullish for Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2013, 02:42:36 AM
Anyone who thinks "shutdown" = "default/bankruptcy" is drinking the kool-aid of the dumbed down mainstream news channels.

The USG is receiving tax receipts for 60% of its budget, and borrowing 40% to tick over. As long as they don't shut down the IRS then tax receipts will come in. It will not default on its bonds, it can pay those obligations. What is at stake is going cold turkey to a balanced budget. Ideally this should happen over a 10 year period. Not overnight. But doing this overnight is better than allowing the existing borrowing trajectory to continue until the point of systemic failure.

What is at risk of being cut is social security (which is unfunded), medicare (hugely wasteful), defense (currently 40% of the world total military spending), food stamps, continued bank and wall street bailouts, ongoing Fannie and Freddie and FHA bailouts, Frankensteins like the DHS and NSA.
1480  Economy / Speculation / Re: U.S. Debt Default Bullish for Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2013, 02:16:11 AM
Debt defaults and bankruptcies are bullish for fiat currencies as these events make fiat more scarce (deflation).

This isn't true when it is the  issuing government (as opposed to a private bank) defaulting. It undermines trust in said government which sort of renders the entire currency meaningless.

It is the opposite.
This stalemate is good for the dollar because it shows that a number of politicians are serious about reining in spending. The USG will stop entitlement spending before it stops bond redemptions at maturity and interest payments.  The equity markets are high in recent years only because of money printing. People think that markets crashing because of the stalemate is "bad" whereas it is a pricing in of the necessary economic (painful) medicine which needs to be taken now instead of an (agonizing) Zimbabwe-like currency collapse taken later.
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