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1481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: March 07, 2024, 07:32:15 PM
Having patience is one of the characteristics of a good gambler. We don't have to rush time just because we want to be making fast profits from the market. Gambling is good and sometimes we do things that would make us to look like we want to be making faster profits from the market. It is good when we have the patience of things and using a better strategy before we start gambling. There are some bet that need some patience to think and prepare before we go in and gamble. A patient gambler would always have a positive results even though it's not immediately. Being positive is one of the ways we can keep prospering and benefiting from what we do.
Patience is the key to all success. no one can do anything good without patience. It is foolish to panic and do anything. when one panics and makes a sudden decision, it is a bad decision. and in all cases bad decisions only hurt us. Panic means loss, especially in gambling.  Investments should always be made after a deep thought. Because there are many risks in financial matters. If one chooses to make a sudden decision then one must be able to accept loss

Yes and patience is something that can make the situation much calmer, for example when something happens to you in any case such as in real life or especially when experiencing emotions in gambling due to a losing situation, I understand and I admit that patience is quite a difficult thing to do when such a situation and most people are unable to withstand the emotions that dominate in themselves so they decide to do things that are actually beyond their control, such as putting a larger amount when gambling with the intention and purpose of recovering something that has been lost.

But it is a fact that if you do such a thing then usually the final situation will be even worse, in the sense that instead of achieving recovery, what happens is that the amount you lose is even greater. However, healthy gambling is when you gamble with composure, because then awareness will be the basis of all the decisions you will make, and if they are unable to be patient and restrain their emotions due to losing then maybe I would say that they are not responsible gamblers.
1482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction on: March 07, 2024, 06:58:28 PM
I think this depends on the culture of your country because here in my country, Asian country specifically. You can’t continue your addiction without receiving heavy scolding from your family and criticism to your neighbors. You can’t become a gambling addicts here without noticing by others or being ignored since everything here can be gossip against you.

Actually being ignored when you have problem sometimes works well since you can’t affect them. They don’t think about your problem which means you’re the only one affected and not your family. On this topic, I’m skeptical why a gambling addict will show his problem on family while this problem typically being kept and not shown since it’s nothing to be proud of.   Huh

That is true that addiction,when someone becomes truly addicted he forgets everyone and cares for nothing except gambling and fueling this devilish passion which brings nothing but misery in the long run.

I have said it some other times but repeating is always good for this,when I was young and used to go to the biggest lotto club/casino I remember well 2 persons who in life had lost everything because of gambling,wife,family,work and they were the true image of failure in life yet they kept staying in that casino every day since morning till evening.

Yes, that is the worst stage in gambling when someone really can't keep their involvement well, none other than because the impact is as you said that it is very bad, there will be a lot of problems that occur when someone enters the addiction phase, they will lose everything they have, especially the valuables they have and for financial problems it is clear that they will have a concerning financial situation that sometimes they even have difficulty meeting needs such as food costs, and when someone who is married has financial problems due to gambling addiction then obviously the next problem will spread to family relationships which in the end there will be no harmonious words anymore and can even end up with separation.

That's right, there is nothing wrong with repeating the idea of advice because after all this is the best that we fellow gamblers should do in order to stay in a safe and comfortable situation, there are many examples of other people's events that we can make as lessons and one of them is like the incident experienced by the 2 people you described here, it is a very concerning situation and I'm sure we all don't want to have the same fate as them, therefore of course treating gambling activities with the recommended approach such as always limiting gambling according to our abilities is always the best choice for long-term security.
1483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: March 07, 2024, 06:38:10 PM
Gambling has largely ruined the lives of many people in various aspects especially in terms of finances, and perhaps I would not blame casinos for this problem at all because obviously they only provide the possibility or chance of winning and not the exact reality of the results at the end of the session, and obviously with this then perhaps it is more appropriate for us to blame the gamblers themselves because they are wrong or too serious in treating an activity that is actually nothing more than a playground.

There are other gamblers that are winning when they're gambling therefore it's not the casino that's making them to lose, they're the ones losing as they don't gamble correctly or aren't just lucky when gambling. Gambling will only ruin your life when you're an addicted gambler and gambling addiction isn't born with any individual but we develop the habit as we keep gambling irresponsibly. When gambling don't put all your attention on only wanting to win as it'll make you a loss chaser.

If a gambler gets into a financial problem as they're gambling, they're to receive the blame as they weren't forced to gamble but they decided to gamble as they want to make money and aren't careful to avoid things that'll make them to lose money instead of making the money they were after that made them to begin to gamble. Some individuals, gambling doesn't fit them but they don't realize this on time.

Yes you have said it that it is not entirely the casino that makes the gamblers lose, because even though the gamblers have won but they have done some actions that are not recommended such as applying greed which ends up losing everything they have earned, and obviously this means that most of the blame lies with the gamblers themselves, so of course it is an absurd idea if there are gamblers who try to blame the casino in any way such as making accusations. On the other hand yes I do agree with your idea that gambling is likely to ruin your life in many aspects when you treat the activity wrong, as I said above it is wrong thinking and wrong action to put too much seriousness into what is really nothing more than a playground, the problem is that there is always the possibility of risk that cannot be tolerated.

Gambling is for everyone but not everyone can really treat gambling as suggested, so in the end there is an addiction, it's quite natural because basically the victory in gambling is money and we all always need money, but the problem is that they don't really understand that gambling is not a place to make money because all wins will only happen by "chance", one of the reasons is because from the start they only focus on the idea of "winning", they don't really understand that all of that is nothing more than a "possibility" which means it can't always happen.
1484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: March 07, 2024, 03:49:52 PM
Things are unpredictable right now. The league is very competitive. On paper, Liverpool must fancy their chances. Of-course they need to continue with positive result this weekend. Mo Salah is back, and there's a chance he'll make a major difference on Sunday. Even without him, Liverpool game shouldn't be impacted for Sunday's clash against City. They've been in top form recently, even without Salah.

We don't know the outcome ahead of Sunday's meeting between Liverpool and Man City, but we're definitely waiting for a magnificent game of football.
City played their Champions League match with Copenhagen yesterday and Guardiola rested several players from the main squad: Silva, De Bruyne, Foden did not play. And Liverpool will play their match today, that is, they will have one less day to rest, and besides, I’m almost sure that Klopp will be forced to play with the main squad, because this is the first away match, and he doesn’t want to lose it.
So I think City may have an advantage in the match they play on Sunday, even a slight advantage, but it's all about the details. Although it will be a home match for Liverpool, which will be an advantage for them.
We'll see who will be superior in this match, because it is difficult for us to predict who will be able to win the match considering that both of them have the same chance of winning this match. And you must also remember that this match will be very heated because the result of the match will really determine their position in the future, unless they get a draw. However, if they play with a draw, then Arsenal will really benefit.

Apart from the players who will compete on the field, the two coaches will also battle tactics and strategies so that they can emerge victorious. Both Liverpool and Manchester City have the same coaches who have good strategies, but who will be more effective is the question. Sometimes the situation on the field will also greatly influence sudden changes in strategy, this must also be prepared for by Jurgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola. Their intelligence in formulating strategies will be our spectacle in this match. The advantage is in Liverpool's hands, but that is not a guarantee that they can win.
1485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 07, 2024, 02:58:24 PM
Lens will host a club that is ranked 2nd in the standings this week, namely Brest. Lens are still having quite a hard time maintaining their stability this season, repeatedly they have had results that are not at all satisfactory. Now they are in 6th place in the standings with 39 points, from 11 wins, 6 draws and 7 defeats from the 24 matches they have played this season. With this situation, I think Brest still has a big chance to win even though their status is the visiting team.

Meanwhile, Brest is in 2nd place, their performance is much more stable than the opponents they will face now, in fact they had 3 consecutive wins before this match. Brest has advantages apart from the visiting team's status, but even so, as I said before, they have the opportunity to make Lens have to suffer defeat in front of their own fans. However, it is possible that in this match both clubs will play equally well and the match will end in a draw. I'm not interested in betting on this match, I feel it's a very big risk, so it's better for me to avoid it.  
1486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: March 07, 2024, 02:31:19 PM
It's over for al nassr. What can we expect from this club in SPL? Al nassr is obviously losing SPL trophy this season. The most possible thing for the club to win AFC champion league but im not sure if al nassr will able to do that since al hilal will be waiting for nassr to come after hilal beat al ittihad in the second leg.
Current standings awhile, Al Nassr remaining 9 points left from Al Hilal and both team will face each other but its can't help more for stopping Al Hilal winning the domestic league tittle this season. I think the same with you about Al Nassr opportunity for winning domestic league have been over regarding impressive performance from Al Hilal keep unbeaten until 22 matches.
Difficult waiting Al Hilal losses three points with 12 matches left, most of opponent teams difficult for defeating Al Hilal with their achievement keep unbeaten and won 20 of 22 matches in domestic league. Cristiano Ronaldo have try to the next season for winning domestic league tittle although not close yet but bit possibility for winning this season behind 9 points left.
Actually, a distance of 9 points is a distance that can still be achieved, but the problem is who will be able to beat AL Hilal this season? I don't see any club being able to do that, unless they are very lucky and at the same time Al Hilal are very unlucky, that might be one way to see Al Hilal taste defeat. Al Nassr, who is their rival club, could not beat Al Hilal in the 2 matches they played, in fact Al Nassr had to suffer 2 defeats.

Al Hilal are very strong this season, they are so superior and very difficult to stop. Their statistics this season alone are the best statistics of all existing clubs, they are the most productive club, they are also the most solid club in defense. Their winning streak will be very difficult to break, they will also want to set a record where they go without defeat in one season, which is something that rarely happens in the world of football. But now they have the opportunity to do that, they just need to maintain their consistency in every match and I'm sure they will be able to do that if they don't lose.
1487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 07, 2024, 02:15:05 PM
You know a lot of clubs are actually ready to spend a lot of money for him. So it might be a problem for them.
But to mean the bigger question is that, is he actually willing to go to Chelsea or Manchester United?
Chelsea or Manchester United? my answer is PSG. Tongue

Even both Chelsea and Manchester United afford to buy out Osimhen, but they need to pay his high salary too, so this is why I say PSG is more realistic. PSG can buy out him and able to pay high salary.

It just depend on Osimhen decision, will he want to play for career or play for money.
In my opinion, he should study and see about players who join Paris Saint Germain, indeed if we talk about money, Paris Saint Germain can pay him more than any other club. However, if we talk about career, I would not include Paris Saint Germain as a club that can make a player's career better. Let's see what happened to Mbappe after joining Paris Saint Germain. Indeed, he got many privileges, but he couldn't get anything special in his career, even though players would definitely want that.

Chelsea is not very good at the moment, so it is quite risky for Osimhen, Manchester United is also the same, but Manchester United is slightly better than Chelsea. If there is another club that is better and interested in him, I think he should consider that. The reason is that the situation of a club sometimes also influences a player's performance, unless the player can be at a very good level of stability, that might actually be what can take the club in an even better direction. But I haven't seen that from Osimhen.
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 07, 2024, 01:53:08 PM
I wouldn't be too sure about the assumption that Napoli is out of business for the top four. Roma has been playing great lately and it looks like the change of the coach had some effect. Actually, I admit that I thought it might have a short-term effect and then Roma would start losing games again that they should actually win. But no, apart from the game they lost against Inter Milan, which is totally understandable, they have been performing way better than anyone expected after they sacked not any coach, but Mourinho himself.

Now for Napoli the job is a good bit harder I admit. But I think that they are still in distance to strike back and to make up for some points if they can win some games in a row. So nothing is over yet for them and by the way they are still in the Champions League. The first game didn't look all too promising, but let's see.

in my opinion, in all honesty and sincerity given the total crowding for the last place in the champions league I think it will be tough, we have Roma, Bologna and Atalanta, and they certainly have a better performance than Napoli
in my opinion Napoli can`t manage to be fourth
It will be difficult for Napoli to be in the top 4 of the standings at the end of the competition, because there are several competitors whose competitors are showing something better than them, so their job will not be easy, especially since they still have inconsistent performances. . In my opinion, Bologna is the strongest candidate at the moment to finish in 4th position, because compared to other clubs they have a better performance in my opinion.

They (Napoli) experienced quite a significant decline after they managed to become champions last season, which is what made it difficult for them to at least be in the top 4. Even now, they still often get unsatisfactory results, even though the opponents they face are actually very capable of beating them. However, I would not rule out the possibility that they will be in that position, especially when luck is on their side. It is possible that the club that is above them is currently experiencing consecutive defeats, although that is quite difficult for this to become a reality.
1489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Indirect victims of gambling addiction on: March 06, 2024, 11:38:49 PM

As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.

Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?


Society, in general, will also be affected by gambling addiction. It's a big failure of society and the government if they have a huge number of gambling addicts. There will be a significant rise in criminality perpetrated by those addicted to gambling who, because of gambling addiction, commit robbery and crimes just to sustain their addiction.
Peace and order are very important in a society but if they cannot sustain and maintain peace and order, there will be chaos which is why the government prohibits, restricts, and regulates gambling because it can lead to addiction that will eventually lead to a rise of criminality and everybody will suffer.
Yes there are many scenarios that can occur that can connect between a gambling addict and a person who is initially completely unfamiliar with gambling and over time a gambling addict will be able to have an indirect impact on others which in turn makes people enter and fall into consciously and unconsciously, and scenarios like this happen in several places or what it means is that it doesn't just happen once but this kind of scenario will continue to occur over time so that the population of people involved in gambling and also gamblers who enter the addiction phase is increasing.

However this is a concerning situation, the worst thing or possibility is yes as you said that there is a potential to increase crime in a country, this happens and is done by most of the addicted gamblers where they want to gamble but do not have the money to fund their gambling activities, so obviously as we know that addicted gamblers always do not hesitate to do things out of control, They seem to justify all means just to get money to fund their gambling activities in the way that you mentioned, namely robbing, stealing or deceiving others and obviously this will cause a lot of chaos, and the hope is that we hope that the government can pay attention to matters of concern like this and build new rules that are effective enough to reduce the population of gamblers so that the crime rate can decrease.
1490  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you feel excited while gambling on: March 06, 2024, 10:49:23 PM
I feel only in the beginning of any session as the exitement is what keeps us coming back yet it can also disappear lightning fast when we are playing and we happen to hit a very bad session since early into the session there is nothing left of being excited when gambling.What I have noticed is that the RTP of most games is changed in any reputable casino and I have absolutely 0 doubts about it that is why I shifted my focus to sport gambling only.

But sometimes there are some gamblers who are excited not because of the excitement but the intention and hope along with the feeling of getting a big win and they are typical gamblers who are too serious in pursuing victory, on the other hand no matter whether you come with the excitement to get a lot of fun or victory in the end still everything will look and feel annoying when the situation changes as fast as lightning as you said where the spin goes so bad that it makes the session very short and ends with a loss, This is a situation that is not easily accepted by gamblers who have the intention of earning in gambling, they are like losers who want to win but are not prepared for the fact of losing and the idea of "chasing the win" to restore something that has been lost is the action they usually choose.

With what I see from your statement it seems like you are one of those gamblers who often fixate on the RTP machine, or simply you always look at the RTP percentage before you bet and honestly at first I was the same as you which when I was just getting to know gambling like slot machines I always looked at the RTP first to see which games were good. but sometimes over time I feel like I'm getting better, But sometimes over time I feel that there is a lot that does not match the RTP, meaning that when the RTP is a high percentage but when I play the game the spin looks very bad and that means not all RTPs match the game provided, this is according to my personal experience.
1491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you had this gambling experience? on: March 06, 2024, 10:29:05 PM
Look gambling always gives you money when you don't expect it but any day you would be ready for it there will be no winning or possibility for it, so as gambler while gambling just stake what you think is fairly enough to lose not because you would want to empty yourself to play bet in order to win big without knowing you are gradually emptying your self. Gambling is a game that gives joy when you least expected it and it comes up, to keep energy running you need to set some restrictions to yourself were you don't have to gamble because of the money coming out but at least to keep you on the system whatever amount that comes you can easily support yourself with the winning.

In fact in the two situations between you expect or not to win the victory can actually come by itself with a note when you are lucky at that time, but maybe the difference is when you win but on the other hand you are one of the gamblers who are too hopeful or too serious in pursuing victory then usually there will be further actions that you will take and that is "greed" which in the end from most of the cases that occur it often leads to results where you lose all the winnings you have got before, or simply greed can make you end up losing even though you initially won.

While when you don't really expect to win, it means that you are not too serious in gambling and maybe your arrival only brings the intention to fill spare time and also to get entertainment then when luck comes to bring you to victory then that is the real victory because usually you will prefer to cash out rather than apply greed when you gamble without expecting victory. We must understand that everyone likes the name of victory and does not mean that people who are not too serious in gambling will not cash in on the winnings when they are lucky regardless of the amount, and also the difference is that there are some gamblers who are too forced to win to come like those who are too aggressive who are ultimately addicted and there are also those who keep gambling in moderation and reasonably without exaggeration, in these two types of gamblers actually victory can come suddenly when they are lucky, but for the problem of bad impact, obviously those who are too forced to win will usually lose much more money without realizing it.
1492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: March 06, 2024, 10:09:20 PM
Remember that gamblers are cool when they are playing without being greedy but once they turn this attitude ? addiction will come for sure as we have seen those addicts that are greed in winning so much .
when we can earn while having small wins and get out of the table but its now in which ending? they are losers and will always lose more.
If you are someone who doesnt set those kind of limitations whether on those losing or winning moments or conditions then you would really be that bound into that losing in the end kind of condition.
This is why it would really be always recommended that you should really be having that kind of control if you dont like to mess up your life with gambling. Being greedy is something the most common
behavior or trait of a human being specially if we do speak about money on where it would really be that a common approach that we would really be thinking up about on how to accumulate or get it
as easy as we can and since gambling could give out that kind of opportunity or chance then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having those kind of
condition or assumptions that dealing with it would give out that kind of opportunity.

Gambling has largely ruined the lives of many people in various aspects especially in terms of finances, and perhaps I would not blame casinos for this problem at all because obviously they only provide the possibility or chance of winning and not the exact reality of the results at the end of the session, and obviously with this then perhaps it is more appropriate for us to blame the gamblers themselves because they are wrong or too serious in treating an activity that is actually nothing more than a playground.

Most gamblers who eventually enter the addiction phase are those who misunderstand from the start what gambling really is especially in terms of "winning opportunities", they are too tempted to end up putting seriousness along with the hope of winning and obviously with this then it is very possible if they apply the greed aspect in their gambling sessions which actually always leads them into a much worse situation. On the other hand, I quite agree with your statement that it is quite natural for someone to act rashly like that in gambling because the winnings from gambling are money and everyone needs money so they even claim unilaterally that they think gambling can change their financial fortunes for the better, and the mistake is clear as I said above that they misunderstood the name "winning opportunities" from the beginning so it seems to override the fact that gambling is a risky activity in addition to the chances of winning.
1493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 06, 2024, 05:17:50 PM
If this happens, it will make the Bundesliga League competitive and interesting to watch because Bayern Munich will have clubs that will rival them for the Bundesliga trophy. I see this as not happening because Bayern Leverkusen will want to sell their best players to raise money for the club, and Bayern Munich will want to buy some of their players so that they will not be a threat to them next season. 
This probably won't be a big problem for Bayer Leverkusen because the team can buy other players to be trained well by a coach who is currently quite successful. I think there are many teams who really want a coach like the one Bayer Leverkusen has now, which makes Leverkusen unbeaten to date in the Bundesliga. Next season, Bayern Munich will not only be targeting new players, but will also be targeting a new coach to make the team better so that it can continue to compete competitively in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
It's no wonder that the Leverkusen coach is currently in the spotlight for his fine performances in the Bundesliga and even in the Europa League. And it's no wonder that many clubs want Xabi to be their coach, especially Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich will always target players and even coaches who pose a threat to them, this is one way they can continue to dominate in the Bundesliga. Some people, especially fans who have to lose their mainstay players because they were bought by Bayern Munich, will definitely think it is something cheating, but this is football, sometimes the strategy must be done not only on the field, but also off the field must play a strategy.

This is easy for Bayern Munich because they have good financial strength, so that helps them realize what they want. Borussia Dortmund is a clear example of something done by Bayern Munich, we can count how many players who eventually became Bayern Munich players after performing brilliantly for Borussia Dortmund. Moreover, Borussia Dortmund is also a club that likes to sell players.
1494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: March 06, 2024, 04:51:10 PM
HERE WE GO

Jude Bellingham got suspended for two games by La Liga following his red card in the match against Valencia. He needs to be careful because this isn't the first time he's had disciplinary issues. Bellingham is a talented player, but his behavior could harm his football career if he's not careful. However, this suspension won't affect Real Madrid's chances of winning the league. Whether Bellingham plays or not, Real Madrid is still likely to win. Since the suspension doesn't include Champions League matches, Madrid can feel relieved.

Indeed, Jude Bellingham must be careful how he speaks to people because it will negatively impact his career. We all know that when we are angry, we sometimes say things we regret, but let's face it: the referee officiating the match between Real Madrid and Valencia is not qualified. He should also be suspended for his actions because, had the match taken place somewhere where the fans were unhappy and easily enraged, he would have been bullied before leaving the pitch. However, this is football, where there are many rules.

Real Madrid is unaffected by Jude Bellingham's two-game suspension because he will only miss the matches against Celta Vigo and Osasuna, both of which are inept opponents of Real Madrid. Instead, Real Madrid will use Brahmin Diaz or Joselu, two goal scorers who can also play the position, and Bellingham's suspension did not prevent him from competing in the Champions League, so Real Madrid is not concerned about the suspension. However, Jude Bellingham should be counselled on appropriate field.
Jude Bellingham still has a lot to learn from his seniors in controlling emotions, otherwise it could be detrimental to himself. He is a young player, and as a young player I actually understand when he still can't control his emotions, but now is the right time for him to be able to control it because he is surrounded by senior players who can be used as teachers to control his emotions to be more stable again.

It's unfortunate when young players who have abilities like him have to accept punishment from things that can actually be very controlled by him. and he also can't see himself, but there are clubs that also feel the loss because he can't play. I am sure he can control his emotions in the future as long as he is willing to learn and not hesitate to learn from his seniors at Real Madrid. It's a pity if he doesn't want to learn at this very big club. And one more thing, we know that Real Madrid is one of the clubs that has a firm attitude from the actions of its players, do not let just because of that Jude Bellingham did not even get a place, even though he is a talented young player.
1495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: March 06, 2024, 04:29:26 PM
Don't forget that today Sporting will face Atalanta. And actually Sporting are in their best performance this season in the Portuguese League. In fact, Sporting is currently at the top of the Portuguese league standings. So I might bet on Sporting for today's match.

This is the game I'm most looking forward to today, and I'm going to be able to watch it  Grin
I'm very excited and very confident about Sporting, I'm curious to know the result

Sporting are on a good run of results, leading the Portuguese league and scoring a lot of goals
Atalanta have had two bad results in recent games and haven't won for three matches, so this could affect the team a little

2.05 odds to Sporting victory  Wink


It's a bit difficult to predict this match, because I see both clubs have an equal chance of winning this match. But here I am more interested in favoring Sporting, they seem to benefit more from playing as the host in this match, besides that because usually the club that knows the field well will be more able to take advantage of it.

But Atalanta can't be underestimated, they may not be better than Sporting in the domestic league, but we also have to look at the different levels of competition. I'm not saying that Sporting's current league is a bad league, but in terms of competition Serie A is more competitive. Anything can happen in this match, but I want to see both clubs play a game that's exciting to watch. I want both clubs to play openly and exchange attacks. For me, such a game would add to my enjoyment of the match, regardless of who wins and who loses.
Oh yes Liverkusen and Liverpool will be playing at the same time, I'm at a loss as to who to watch, and I'll probably watch both, one on television and one on my phone.  Grin
1496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: March 06, 2024, 04:09:29 PM
Anfield roars again with this huge Sunday fixture of Liverpool and Man City and whoever wins this game will ultimately take the EPL trophy too but the margin is very close between the top 3 teams.
And you will see Liverpool will stand tall against Man city in the coming Sunday fixture.
These two teams are actually still strong candidates to win the Premier League trophy this season, although currently Liverpool is still the team that occupies the top position in the standings. But basically Liverpool is still not safe at the moment because Manchester City is an extraordinary team and very dangerous too this season. So just one bad result experienced by Liverpool could be a big disaster for Liverpool because Manchester City will definitely be able to continue winning until the end of the season. And Liverpool should also be able to continue winning until the end of the season in order to maintain their position and win the title this season.
This is one of the matches we are waiting for in the Premier League this season, because this match will bring together two clubs that are competing for the Premier League title this season, not only that their competition has become very tight because the points gap between them is very tight. One point is a distance that even I say it is a gapless distance, because a distance of 1 point will be able to change the position in just one match result.

Liverpool benefited because in this match they will play at Anfield which is their headquarters. As the host they will definitely get more additional enthusiasm from their supporters who are directly present at the stadium, and indeed in football, when two strong clubs meet, the host status will be beneficial for that club. Conversely for Manchester City, this is an opportunity for them to be able to coup Liverpool's position by beating Liverpool at their own headquarters.

On the other hand, Arsenal are waiting for the final result of this match, because if the match ends with a draw score then it is very profitable for them. Arsenal will face Brentford, the scenario is if Arsenal win and Manchester City vs Liverpool draw, then their points will be the same as those owned by Liverpool, obviously this is very beneficial for them. So I believe they expect the two clubs to draw.
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: March 06, 2024, 03:47:52 PM
You will be shocked by underestimating any team in the Champions league or in football generally. When Chelsea won Manchester City in the champions league final in 2021 nobody expected it. The book makers and pundits were backing Manchester City to win the final but it turned out that Chelsea won by a goal. Manchester City couldn't score a single goal for the entire 90 minutes. Football is not always one sided all the time, that's why it's difficult to predict it. Am not concluding that Bayern Munich can win Manchester City, real Madrid or inter Milan. What am saying is that Bayern is an elite team in the Champions league and they can win any of the teams listed above.
At least Chelsea at that time was one of strong team in Premier League, the previous final match was quite similar, Manchester City is a clear favorite and Inter isn't really a strong team. Inter can give a fight to Manchester City, but Manchester City is luckier and they won with one goal.

It's a mentality, sometimes miracle could happen just like Real Madrid that mostly won via comeback in the last season.
When we talk about the Champions League, mentality is something that must be discussed as well, because in the Champions League the pressure is very different from the domestic league. I don't mean to belittle the domestic league, especially the Premier League where we know what the competition is like. But in the Champions League it's different because it's the highest championship for a club in Europe, we can't deny that. There are even clubs that do make the Champions League their main target.

We are all just predicting here, we are predicting based on their performances during this season. When in the end our predictions miss or something surprising happens it becomes something very natural, because in football anything can happen. The bookmakers must also be thinking the same thing about a club's chances of winning the Champions League. But there are also other factors that we cannot simply eliminate in football, such as luck for example, or other external factors that make the course of the match not in accordance with what we predict.
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: your perception about gambling on: March 06, 2024, 11:30:49 AM
Gambling is not restricted to anyone anybody can gamble The only thing is that some countries and the arrows and law they have some age which you can be able to allowed to gamble and they have age grad for those.com be free to play any gambling games, activities, wise and countries is just general nobody can come Pastor his game is not restricted to some kind of people alone. Anybody can gamble your more than your father your siblings you know it’s just a game of choice you can gamble from anyway, the only thing is that countries has their own It’s just depends on the country but for me anybody can gamble from anywhere

True, everyone is free to gamble or that means gambling for everyone who does have money as a requirement and also readiness to bet to reach one of the two possibilities that will occur at the end of the session, namely between winning or losing. And yes it is true as you said that every country has an age limit for everyone who wants to gamble, or that means usually gambling is only allowed for someone who is over the age of 18 which is already starting to enter the maturity phase if the country allows its people to gamble.

There is no stratification in gambling or gambling is specialized for some groups, but as I said above that if you have money as a requirement to participate in betting then you can start whenever you want. On the other hand I think it is quite rare for countries to legalize gambling activities for their citizens but even if there are regulations that do not allow it it is still a fact that most people do not like rules and this means that the population of people involved in gambling between countries that legalize and countries that do not legalize gambling is probably the same.
1499  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most Traders are Not Profitable on: March 05, 2024, 02:20:42 PM
I have also noticed this trends. If traders are profitable in what they're doing, why are they allotting a huge amount of time composing a course for trading if they can just use that same time to go 100% on trading instead? That means they are not that profitable, and they have to do other things in order to make money. If I were them and I'm getting a lot of money in trading alone, I'd probably lay off the rest of my time to relaxation or expand my trading ventures even further.

Rich people do not share their secrets to other people that's why they are rich. They don't want to disturb their income stream because that's how they make bread. If a lot of people suddenly goes to their spot and compete for the same resources because they pointed out where the source is, that rich people will eventually notice that it thins out their yield and will probably have to move somewhere else - if that source is really profitable to begin with.

Yes that's the logic, if they have a way that they think is accurate to actually make good money in trading then why don't they do it themselves? I think we should be able to be rational in responding to this situation which means that there is something they are looking for, I understand that by telling others it is a good and kind act but I can't think that positively in things that involve money in it, and means that maybe they are trying to make more money by hiding behind the idea of "helping others".

Life is a competition and sometimes there are cases where people even put each other down, and this might be the reason why it's more advisable to keep something you've earned for the struggle you've done, such as knowing the right way to trade to get a lot of consistent profits. On the other hand, many rich people are invisible and there are also some people who try to always look in the public eye that they are not actually rich but are someone who is taking advantage of the situation to gain a lot of profit.
1500  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you feel excited while gambling on: March 05, 2024, 02:01:04 PM
Every gambler will feel the excitement of the games, and that is a given fact. Try sitting on any of these luck-based games like hi-lo, dice, roulette and you will understand that sometimes you don't want to get up and just continue playing. Either you are enjoying or just want to recover your losses. One should contain himself while playing so you won't go to the extent of using your money for your bills and other important things. Without discipline, it is very easy to go down the rabbit hole of gambling.
Excitement is normal during gambling because at that time everyone feels the same thing whether he will win or lose.  I feel excited myself. many people use gambling for fun and many for income, but no matter what purpose they use it, there is excitement in everyone. and from this excitement comes fun. But when the result of gambling after all the excitement is win then there is a lot of joy.  And loss feels a bit bad, but those who gamble for income become emotional

I think the excitement you will really feel when the results at the end of the session match what you expect, and if you are still at the journey stage of running the session then I think what is more likely to happen is maybe some tension, but there is also excitement if you look at gambling as a fun activity and that means that tension along with some pressure will usually be felt more by gamblers who always expect to earn, in the sense that when the game round looks bad enough then that's where the tension will occur because they feel worried about losing.

Yes, I quite agree with what you said that whatever the gambler's goal is, at least they will definitely feel pleasure, but maybe as I said above that a gambler who comes with the intention of earning usually they will feel more tension and pressure than pleasure because they are too serious in putting expectations, while for responsible gamblers who are based on a correct understanding of gambling in my opinion will not feel too much tension and pressure like that because usually they only put the amount they can afford to lose.
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