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1481  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [ASK] question About Bitcoin on: March 25, 2019, 02:46:32 PM
4.When Node Are Verifying A Block, Is it verifying (Checking For Double-Spend) it From The Whole Blockchain? If That Right, Is That Mean The Node Requirement Will Be Higher In The Future?

nodes aren't checking for double spends. (unless their operators add code to do so)

They do implicitly. While nodes don't check the mempool for ongoing double-spend attempts they won't accept blocks that have double-spends in them (ie. blocks that try to spend inputs that have already been spent are invalid).
1482  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proposal Ethereum as the layer 2 to Bitcoin on: March 25, 2019, 10:02:09 AM
2. Ledger should be resistant to changes. Ultimate goal = immutable ledger

Running a privately owned blockchain is the way to go.

Private blockchains and immutability are exclusive, you can't have both. Ethereum's DAO debacle is a prime example of what happens to immutability when certain parties have too much power within an ecosystem.
1483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Technical changes Bitcoin core to 0.17.1 on: March 21, 2019, 12:38:52 PM
and 0.18.0.rc1 is the same? format not changes?
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.18.0rc1...master

AFAIK there's no fork planned in the foreseeable future, so also here the block and transaction format will remain unchanged.
1484  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proposal Ethereum as the layer 2 to Bitcoin on: March 21, 2019, 10:36:41 AM
Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying but... I don't think that this is how any of this works. You can't just graft one blockchain onto another to get the best of both worlds. Especially not in the way described.

If you're really interested in how to get separate blockchains to benefit from one another look into atomic cross chain swaps of what the future of cryptocurrency may entail.
1485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin stolen instantly? on: March 21, 2019, 10:04:42 AM
[...] I do use this PC for almost everything I do online (mainly youtube watching, wikipedia) including xxx and, rarely, torrents but I did deep scans and couldn't find any virus or malware anywhere. [...]

Maybe you caught something on one of the torrent sites. While porn sites are supposedly surprisingly safe, torrent and streaming sites can't be quite as choosy as far as advertisers are concerned, so sometimes you'll get nasty little malware just from entering the site. Happened to me a couple years back, I wasn't sure whether to be pissed off or impressed. Either use ad blockers / disable JavaScript or use a VM when visiting any piracy related sites.

Also note that well written malware doesn't necessarily turn up on virus scans. Actually malware doesn't necessarily need to be well written to remain overlooked, it often suffices if it's just rare enough to slip under the radar. Accordingly I'd probably consider reinstalling my OS from scratch if I were you.

Do you have any spell checkers installed? Turns out they potentially leak your seed and other sensitive information:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/cryptocurrency-wallet-caught-sending-user-passwords-to-googles-spellchecker/
1486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Is there a way to automatically forward received coins to multiple addresses? on: March 21, 2019, 09:32:33 AM
Your best bet is probably to run either a Bitcoin Core node or an Electrum instance and use their respective JSON-RPC APIs to create the logic you are looking for.

Here's the list of API calls for Electrum:
http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/protocol.html

Here's the list of API calls for Bitcoin Core:
https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#bitcoin-core-apis

For the latter here's a list of a few wrappers for various programming languages:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_(JSON-RPC)
1487  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Bluetooth and Biometric Crypto hardware wallet on: March 20, 2019, 04:26:01 PM
Having biometric support is a little bit too much and unnecessary in my opinion. It's pretty much just a little bit of convenience in exchange for less security, which isn't really worth it in my book. Bluetooth as well; though someone doing a man-in-the-middle attack on you while using your bluetooth hardware wallet is quite unlikely, it just adds an additional attack vector. The Ledger Nano S and the Trezor One is still the best in my opinion.

Pretty much this.

It's become an old adage in security circles that biometric data should only be used for identification but never for authentication. There's simply too much downside on using biometric data for the latter (e.g. biometric data is easier to spoof than most people are aware of, it can't be revoked and exchanged for new credentials). Accordingly I have my doubts about the security awareness of any hardware wallet vendor following this approach.
1488  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: March 20, 2019, 03:26:41 PM
USD 3100,-

I don't think we're out of the thicket yet, there's still too much hope around. The way I see it Bitcoin will try and fail to break USD 5000,- and as a result we'll see one (hopefully last) plunge towards the previous bottom. Come to think of it USD 4100,- is probably the more likely next bottom, however I'll stick with my more pessimistic prediction guess of USD 3100,-.
1489  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: March 20, 2019, 02:26:35 PM
I don't think that IOUs are that bad a comparison, it's just misleading in that IOUs imply counterparty risk which LN pretty much nullifies (assuming you keep an eye on your channel for adversarial behaviour). While this simplification may lead to fundamental misunderstandings (as simplifications always do) I'm also not sure what other metaphors would be suitable to explain LN to the layman or laywoman.

And the issue we currently find ourselves in is that because there isn't a simple analogy, purely becuase it's radically different to anything we've done before, it's easy for people to spread FUD about it and make it sound worse than it actually is. 

I hope people can keep an open mind and weigh up the cost/benefit ratio for themselves, rather than just taking these people at their word when they are oversimplifying things.

I mean that's pretty much what happened when Bitcoin entered the scene as well. Lots of misconceptions and nuances getting lost but the general understanding improved over time. Bitcoin went from "How is this different from Microsoft Points?" to "What prevents people from making their own Bitcoin?" to "Bitcoin is obsolete, it's all about blockchain the technology". All misunderstandings in their own right but at least somewhat getting closer to an actual understanding of cryptocurrencies (if ever so slowly). I presume the public's understanding of LN will undergo a similar evolution.
1490  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Transfer of bitcoins, sold as a "service" on: March 20, 2019, 01:23:30 PM
The question is more so,  if Party A(customer) pays Party B(service provider) a fee to locate a certain item (as an example we will says it's a digital asset with monetary value, something that can be converted into bitcoin somehow),  is it illegal for Party A(customer) to pay Party B(service provider) in fiat currency to obtain this digital asset that may have monetary value in which could somehow be converted to bitcoin.

Are you trying to get around money transmission / AML / KYC regulations by selling services as a broker, rather than as a seller of cryptocurrency? I guess it might work under some legislations but in general I wouldn't bet on outsmarting local law based on a technicality. At least not without consulting a legal professional first.
1491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should bitcoin be limited to 21 million? on: March 20, 2019, 11:10:04 AM
Viewing bitcoin as an investment asset gives investors the impression bitcoin has 21 million supply (technically it does) but when you consider bitcoin as more of a currency then you'll realize the 21million total supply isn't a limitation since it can be divided by 0.00000001 sat [...]

We know that's the total of bitcoins but don't forget about the zeros after the point... 8 zeros have the trick. [...]

Bitcoin's fungibility changes nothing about its deflationary nature. Fungibility allows for practical usage despite deflation.

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As far as fiat currencies are concerned I've come to appreciate their inflationary nature (within measures, obviously) as our current economic system would be unsustainable without an inflationary money. Inflation allows for credit and thus growth and progress, without it mankind would stagnate. Needless to say inflation has its downsides, but all in all it appears to be indispensable for the way our economies work.

That being said, I don't believe Bitcoin necessarily needs to be inflationary to be useful and stable in the long run. An economy where Bitcoin would be the one and only money around would suffocate but that is not and likely never will be the case. However as long as Bitcoin lives side-by-side with inflationary currencies (regardless of them being alts or government issued fiat currencies) I believe a mutually beneficial equilibrium can be achieved.

As far as miners are concerned I agree that things may become tricky. High variability caused by the majority of mining income being provided by transaction fees rather than a stable block reward could lead to some challenges. I don't think that this problem is unsolvable though. At any rate we should have plenty of time to consider our options, considering that the block reward will be reduced gradually over a very long timeframe, allowing for an ongoing observation of how miners behave and what security issues we might face.
1492  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: March 20, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
What? IOUs in Lightning? That's why there's a lot of misinformed newbies in the forum who believe, and argue that the Bitcoins in Lightning are IOUs or "pegged tokens". Because there are more misinformed people, who didn't do their research, writing about them, and publishing them.

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/11/19/what-is-lightning-network-scalability/

I don't think that IOUs are that bad a comparison, it's just misleading in that IOUs imply counterparty risk which LN pretty much nullifies (assuming you keep an eye on your channel for adversarial behaviour). While this simplification may lead to fundamental misunderstandings (as simplifications always do) I'm also not sure what other metaphors would be suitable to explain LN to the layman or laywoman.
1493  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: May be a dumb question: MultiSig wallet Electrum on: March 19, 2019, 12:53:28 PM
So, I have a multiSig wallet created using Electrum.
2/2
I have 12 words seed and extended seed for extra layer or security.

I have the addresses but since this is a multiSig wallet, the addresses do not have separate private keys.

Hypothetical question:
If anything happen with Electrum wallet (Let's say they stop working for the community) then how will I recover my wallet?

I hope I am not asking a stupid question :-P

Cheers :-)
Hi,

you should be able to recover your private key using any wallet that support bip39.

Heisenberg_Hunter posted a handful of wallets supporting BIP39 over here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112183.msg49832671#msg49832671

Alternatively there also tools such as this:
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

However I only would use an online tool handling private keys after disconnecting from the internet and with the intent of moving coins onto a new allet.

However I'm not sure whether Electrum (especially older versions) use the same standard for extended seeds / passphrases as for example Trezor and Ledger hardware wallets. That is, while 12 / 24 word seed phrases are standard, I'm not quite sure whether the usage of a 13th / 25th seed word is the same across all BIP39 wallets. Maybe someone else has deeper insight on Electrum's implementation of BIP39 in this regard?
1494  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Private blockchains connected to bitcoin's pow on: March 18, 2019, 01:45:21 PM
I did write a small article about privately owned blockchains. https://medium.com/@hosseamin/privately-owned-distributed-ledger-why-c685b81df7d

I fail to see the "private blockchain" aspect of what you are describing above. What's the difference to colored coin / token approaches such as OMNI and XCP?
1495  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Modular Scaling on: March 18, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
While modular arithmetic sees a lot of use in cryptography I don't think it can be meaningfully applied to compression as information is lost and reversal is not possible. In this regard you could compare it to a cryptographic hash function (or any hash function) -- while the output gets reduced to, say 256 bits in the case of SHA256 regardless of the size of the input, you can only use it for validation (as is the case with Bitcoin) but not for compression (because multiple inputs will by necessity lead to the same output, even though the chance of finding a collision is currently infinitesimal).

In terms of compression in general the information always has to go somewhere, so given highly random data (as pointed out by mda) any amount of information that is taken away from the data to be compressed moves to the function required to compress it (as pointed out by odolvlobo). That is, the filesize of compressed high entropy data + the compression function can never be less than the uncompressed high entropy data that serves as its input [1]. While Bitcoin transactions have elements that can be fairly well compressed AFAIK those are already mostly accounted for (ie. compressed in one way or another). What isn't and can't be compressed is the signature data (ie. the witness data that has been segregated as part of... well, segregated witness, aka SegWit). However that's where e.g. Schnorr signatures come into play, which stand to significantly reduce the size of aggregated signatures [2] (e.g. when multiple small inputs are aggregated into a single large output; it is however even imaginable to aggregate the signatures of multiple, unrelated users).

That being said, have a look at MimbleWimble [3]. I think MimbleWimble's cut-through method is pretty much what you are looking for. Essentially it reduces block sizes by getting rid of intermediary transactions once they have become obsolete (eg. Alice -> Bob -> Charlie gets reduced to Alice -> Charlie) while gaining privacy without sacrificing security. It is a fundamentally different transaction / block approach from Bitcoin however, so you won't see this beyond alt coin implementations (Grin and Beam, respectively).


[1] https://marknelson.us/posts/2006/06/20/million-digit-challenge.html
[2] https://medium.com/@SDWouters/why-schnorr-signatures-will-help-solve-2-of-bitcoins-biggest-problems-today-9b7718e7861c
[3] https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/blob/master/doc/intro.md
1496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: massive feb visitor collapse in Bitcointalk and Coinmarketcap founding websites on: March 18, 2019, 08:57:48 AM
I do find it interesting how rarely Bitcointalk is referenced by other sites. All the dogshit crypto 'press' prefers Twitter, Reddit or some press release. Threads here are hardly ever picked up on by other users on Twitter or Reddit either. It's been that was for as long as I've been here.

IIRC in early 2013 reddit still occasionally referred to Bitcointalk threads. I guess it's been mostly overshadowed by the deluge of shovelware crypto blogs and crypto news sites that followed the 2013 bubble(s) though.
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Help!] How to receive bitcoins (I am a beginner!) on: March 13, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
If the person sent a donation to you, shouldn't he be asking you to create a wallet beforehand? Any wallet address that isn't created by you should never be trusted, assuming you are the end user.

There's nothing wrong with accepting payments as a private key, assuming you immediately swipe the amount into your wallet as described by nc50lc and Pamoldar. It's true that similar angles get used for scams though.
1498  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: About most likely an scam BTC mining on: March 13, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
I'm afraid you've been scammed and someone is trying to get even more from you.

Apart from most cloud mining services being scams and those that aren't being unprofitable, searching for Zkong leads to a "company" website that has been registered just one month ago. So that company is most likely fake and an attempt to scam additional money from you.

Searching for iswift card leads to what appears to be a legit company, however the first website I find is less than half a year old, which is an additional red flag that you are not looking at a real company website. Moreso if they "recommended" Zkong for delivery.

That is assuming you posted the wrong link for iswift card:

Could you please have a look www.iswift.com as well?

Because that site is gone.
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: massive feb visitor collapse in Bitcointalk and Coinmarketcap founding websites on: March 13, 2019, 09:32:40 AM
it may take time, it may resist death, you may still see new ones pop up (like the ICOs these days) but the death is inevitable. what you see on both bitcointalk and coinmarketcap is the death of altcoins and mainly ICO scams.

Still I wonder what the "next big thing" is going to be.

In 2013 it was simple Bitcoin clones and centralized securities / mining contracts.

In 2017 it was spezialized / innovative alt coins, Bitcoin hard forks and ICOs.

Short of a complete and utter death of crypto 20xx should be interesting, if even more or less a variation of what we've already seen before.

I don't think alts will die that easily though. Even DOGE got pumped during the last hype cycle, regardless of it lacking active development and being little more than a meme. That's the beauty of crypto though. Easy to conceive, hard to kill. I doubt that this will hold true for abandoned ICO tokens though.
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: massive feb visitor collapse in Bitcointalk and Coinmarketcap founding websites on: March 12, 2019, 08:32:45 PM
To be fair, Reddit's Bitcoin community has also largely stagnated compared to 2017. Its subscriber base grew by the thousands every week during 2017. Now it's been "stuck" at just a bit above 1 million for the last year. Which is still pretty good compared to the 100-200k of early 2017.

And it's kept alive more by the spammers trying to promote their yt channels and cypto "news" websites.
Discussions have died there also, posts with more than 20 comments are becoming scarce.

Very true, but seeing how abysmal r/bitcoin submissions have become it's no wonder that discussions have died down. And is it just me or is r/bitcoin in a worse shape than it was pre-2017? Maybe it's the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia, but I remember much more focus on upcoming Bitcoin tech being discussed. Right now even the memes are r/comedycemetery material at best.
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