Or the people getting offended could realize that the people whose posts they're reading think differently from them and are very likely not trying to offend.
That's irrelevent. It's not like it's so bad that I'm never going to get past it, but it's still bad form to offend your readership, even by accident. Common sense doesn't come cheap, and that little pair of words has very different semantics value for different people. I don't know anything about Austrian economics, so I didn't find it funny nor offensive. I do, however, try hard not to be part of any 'group'. I find no particular group fits my exact thoughts or feelings because there are, you know, other people with opinions in them. Taking offense because a joke was publicly made referencing whatever group you consider yourself to be part of is slightly immature, but saying so out loud sounds like you are not completely comfortable with your beliefs and feel the need to justify yourself. There, I can derail a thread too! :p PS: None of the above describes my own thoughts or ideas, at least not anymore. I tend to change my mind a lot.
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No, please be serious guys.
This logo is just horrible. Not to say it looks lame & unprofessional. Sorry to the author, but this is the truth.
Maybe the smiley made it look as if I was joking. I'm not. It looks like boobs * nelisky tilts head
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Yes you can, but in my undestanding, that offline wallet needs to have been online at least once, otherwise its public key(s) are not known to the bitcoin network.
That's not right-- the person paying you doesn't know your public key, they just know your bitcoin address (which is a 160-bit hash of your public key). You can (and I have) send bitcoins to ANY 160-bit bitcoin address, whether or not there actually is a public/private keypair corresponding to that address. Are those coins lost? Or if someone were to magically get a wallet that corresponded to that public key, would it then be deposited into their account? (Chances of course very small) [/quote Could that be an attack vector? I know chances are very *very* slim, but what if I was to put 100 high powered machines generating keys at random, would that potentially net me access to someone else's wallet, or part thereof?
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I like the coin part, but am not digging the B
One word? Boobs! Now if that's positive or not comes down to personal taste
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"PayPal sucks. Bitcoin sucks less."
"PayPal sucks. Bitcoin sucks less." by several orders of magnitude and then a little more. 15 words.
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I really think he (she?) wants to buy my house... still no PMs though...
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He seems to want to buy a house or just make the value of a bitcoin increase by selling them at a high level. Since by the looks of it no one else is selling as that high levels its safe to say he will have a semi monopoly for a while.
Am I going to get the first bid for the house? No PMs yet...
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That is exactly like my ring! Well, I guess I almost scammed someone Great catch, ribuck, thanks for saving me the awkward situation.
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I must say the photo looks exactly like those chunky "gold" rings that the gypsies use for their gold ring scams in Paris. (The photo in that linked article is not of the actual scam ring). So the price people bid should definitely depend on how confident they are that this ring is made of gold. Well, I actually found it on the ground, though not in Paris. But the description fits that bill perfectly, it is too big even for me, and I'm not the smallish type. So all bids are off until I get this analysed, ok?
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4 million bitcoins in circulation at this time.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I have read this is hard coded number in the system. If this is true, the btc economy is far lower than it nowadays. This number was not reached yet as the network is still mining coins. I will bid 1 btc for the house photos Valerius Hard coded to 21M, we're at 4.43 right now. I didn't put photos on purpose. They will be provided to real prospective buyers with good reputation Ya know, privacy paranoid. I will try and come up with a few that don't give too much on the exact location though.
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These larger transactions make the currency stronger, as any sound currency does. If I went to MtGox and bought up 200,000 coins and drove the price to $1.25 each, would you consider 200,000 coins? (I am not bidding on your house, only example)
In a fiat regime, you just print up what you need, and let everyone else worry about the debasement.
I don't think I could trust a spike in the price as basis for negotiating. If you would do that and a week passed, bcm and mtgox both had solid volume on that price range, sure. Also, according to the values you provide you would be paying 2.5x what I requested originally, which obviously gave me a buffer to work with, but I would have to see how the markets reacted for a few days before accepting, I guess.
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I'll buy a chair near the lake for 100 BTC!
It's great for fishing! You get a seat by the lake with 1Kg fish in it But you'll have to discuss that with whoever buys the house.
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Honnestly I don't understand you guys. When I buy or sell something, I don't really care much about the spot price.
If I sell something, it's because I need money. I don't want to spend time and effort to make sure I get the best possible deal.
If I buy something, it's because I want to own it. I give whatever price the seller is asking, if I can afford it and if my desire to get the thing overcomes my reluctance of losing the required amount of money.
The spot price is only valid in a short period of time. If you don't intend to sell back or buy back during this time frame, the spot price doesn't matter much.
I believe that was just for my own advantage, as I explained that I had absolutely no clue as to the worth of this ring. I appreciate the information, but that doesn't change the fact that this ring has no value to me other than getting some coins for it. I wouldn't sell it for money, as the simple effort of going to a pawn shop would offset any profit I'd make out of it, but here I can add a little bit to the btc ecosystem *and* gain a few coins. Highest bidder takes it, I don't have any reserve price whatsoever other than making sure I don't loose money when mailing it and France is ok, as is any other country that the post office will ship to.
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http://btco.in/2s is a gold calculator for scrap gold, based on the carats. 18k in the US is typically 75% pure, meaning the .750 should be it's purity. Can you do some tests for us to insure it is gold and not a chinese fake? Time frame... you're the auctioneer, set it how you would like, but it would be nice to have some idea, even if it is block 90,000 that's better than an open ended, I'll end it when it's high enough. Wow, and here I was questioning if it was worth the shipping What kind of tests should I do? Do I need to take it to a jewelry store and ask, or is there something I can do at home? As for the end, you seem to be the only immediately interested party... how about till next Tuesday, noon GMT? I'll have to hit the post office that afternoon so it seems like a good target.
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When does the auction end When the bids stop? Say 24h without any bids? Or would you rather have a specific date, or even a block like that new trend?
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So this is a ring I found a few years ago, and has been sitting around. It is quite big, there is no shininess about it but I'm pretty sure it's gold In the pictures below you can see it and the inscription on the inside which, as far as I can make out, says '750' '18k'. I don't have a precision scale but on the kitchen digital scale, which should be good to the gram, it weights 10g. I will sell to the highest bid, postage included in the bid please. I can send it registered for about 35btc, so why don't we start there? I have absolutely no idea how much the ring is worth, so if you are knowledgeable on this, you might get yourself a sweet deal!
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I don't have 500 kbc, but I'm in for 1,500 bc. However, you don't seem very serious about selling this house.
Well, for 1.5K no, I'm not serious at all It's not an auction because I will not sell for less than what I paid for, which is what I advertised. I am dead serious about selling it, though, as it is on the market already. I do not know if I will sell it for bitcoins, because right now it is very hard to convert them to cash even for small amounts, and I will need the cash. I could be persuaded to do part bitcoins though, and even all bitcoins if the market trend continues in the upward direction, but you are right, this is just a discussion starter, not (yet) an actual proposal.
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Of course timezone differences may become a problem for some so a 12 hour period is probably a good idea...
Why is timezone timezone difference a problem ? The length of the block chain is geographically invariant. I actually chose 90,000 only because it was the closest round number I could see. I meant if you were only taking the bids during the 10 blocks that precede the 90k. It might end up at unusable hours for some, like 9am
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So I have a house on the market... it's in southern Brazil, near Joinville, about 500 Km south of São Paulo. It's a spacious 2 bedroom house (with 3 bathrooms, go figure) and has a detached house to rebuild, a place for the car and bbq and washing machines as an annex, has almost 10000 square meters of land, a lake, etc. Would you buy a house for Bitcoins? Is it too early in the game? I haven't spoken to the missy's about that, obviously, but if there was real interest (from someone with enough coins) I would certainly be game ~500k coins is the direct dollar to bitcoin conversion, but I'd probably want a little extra margin, for the risk (and because I will need to eventually cash in those coins, and fees for these amounts are a pain) So folks, is there a market this big already?. EDIT: Proposals using bitcoins, money and other commodities and currencies will be considered, but bitcoins should always be there, if modestly so
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Wouldn't it be smarter for us all to hold our bids until near 90,000 for when the value of bitcoins rises dramatically? I never understood the online auction thing, especially when people bid early and often... I thing advertising way in advance is a great thing, very much needed, but shouldn't the auction be more of "between blocks 89990 and 90000 (about one hour)"? Of course timezone differences may become a problem for some so a 12 hour period is probably a good idea...
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