Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things-outside-the-universe is unknown, scientifically.  ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? You fail to remember that things don't make themselves... at least not in our universe. So, whatever it is that is outside the universe, is what made the universe. One outside-the-universe. One God. ''One outside-the-universe. One God.'' Why one? |
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If you think rocket launches are fake, show it. It should be easy if you think they just land after a while, show the landing. Easy peasy.
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copy of wikipedia
I see lots of information you likely didn't even read, copy and pasted (that is against forum rules to plagiarize BTW), but I don't see your premise, retort, or argument... What do you want me to say exactly about well known documented data? Should I do a brief comment after each report? The argument that vaccines aren't safe or that the government doesn't care is simply false as shown above. Simple because they lost some reports somewhere it doesn't mean the whole thing is a hoax and they are trying to kill people. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, we have stopped plenty of diseases thanks to them. No one is arguing that vaccines are 100% safe because nothing is, any drug has side effects, you can die from eating too many paracetamol pills, it doesn't even take that many. Science will prevail. Nutjobs wont. You're right. People's lives and health are important, especially when injecting stuff into them. They must have done a test. Anybody can lose a test report. What? Oh, they did two tests, and lost both reports? That can happen. How many times does a person lose their car keys. Oh, oh, oh... You said 3 tests. And they lost all three reports? Hmmm. Well, I guess it is easy to lose 3 reports. But this stuff is rather important. They should have been able to find at least one of those reports. What was that? They did thousands of tests just to be sure, and lost all those reports? Wow! This is starting to sound like some kind of coverup. I know why they lost all those test reports. The tests were bad! They showed that vaccines kill people, and the ones that they don't kill come out sick... even if the illness shows up many years later. And they did it all for money. Why has it taken so long for this to come out into the open? They must be using a good percentage of the money from patients to push this coverup. Wow, just wow! If those tests showed vaccines kill people, surely you can find more, no? Oh wait, literally every other report that exists shows the exact opposite, you are just a fucking moron, get out of my face. Go pray to your god nutjob. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, show me the evidence that they don't. |
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copy of wikipedia
I see lots of information you likely didn't even read, copy and pasted (that is against forum rules to plagiarize BTW), but I don't see your premise, retort, or argument... What do you want me to say exactly about well known documented data? Should I do a brief comment after each report? The argument that vaccines aren't safe or that the government doesn't care is simply false as shown above. Simple because they lost some reports somewhere it doesn't mean the whole thing is a hoax and they are trying to kill people. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, we have stopped plenty of diseases thanks to them. No one is arguing that vaccines are 100% safe because nothing is, any drug has side effects, you can die from eating too many paracetamol pills, it doesn't even take that many. Science will prevail. Nutjobs wont. |
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. So god has a cause? I thought you always said god has no cause because ''I'm the best and I know what's outside the universe and how it works'' Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things outside the universe is unknown, scientifically. ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? |
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Of course it's hard to admit when you are wrong. Your article is simply false, the government did not lose any lawsuit. They settled and then it was dismissed, so yes, your article is proven to be bullshit, end of the story, if you can't even admit this, there is no point in talking to you, you are intellectually dishonest.
Either it was settled or dismissed, it can't be both. So I checked for myself. It was settled, because it was a FOIA suit, and the requested records simply did not exist, even though they were required to be created by law. Essentially the government had responsibilities under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 that it was not meeting. This does in fact have serious implications. It does not, obviously missing reports isn't good but it happens, they were meeting every other requirement though. Ok, now that you are past the point of trying to dismiss this source, and that you have been provided a premise with a source to back it up, what is your evidence this is NOT something that has serious implications? On what evidence do you base the conclusion that they are meeting every other requirement?  The Health and Medicine Division (HMD) division (previously known as the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine has published a number of vaccine safety reviews and reports under commission of HRSA, an agency of HHS the National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC), established in 1987, has had regular meetings and published regular reports about vaccine safety a number of other vaccine safety oversight advisory committees and government groups were established, including the Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), the Microbiology and Infectious Diseases Review Advisory Committee (MIDRAC) of NIAID, and the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, with the Vaccine Interagency Group of the National Vaccine Program Office providing overall coordination. They all report to the Secretary of HHS. the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) and Vaccine Safety Datalink were established in 1990, but it is important to keep in mind that VAERS was created from a merger of the CDC Monitoring System for Adverse Events Following Immunization (MSAEFI) and the vaccine reports contained in the FDA Spontaneous Reporting System (SRS) programs. It’s not like we just start following adverse events following immunization in 1990. a Task Force on Safer Childhood Vaccines was established and completed a report, “identifying key issues and enhancing collaboration on behalf of vaccine safety” in 1996. Did someone forget to send it to Congress? the Salk inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) replaced the oral polio vaccine (OPV) in 1996 because of a small risk of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP), beginning with a sequential IPV-OPV vaccine schedule and then going to an all IPV schedule in 2000 the DTaP vaccine, which is supposed to have fewer side effects than DTP is licensed, and replaces DTP for all required doses by 1997, although DTP is never actually shown to have caused seizures or brain damage RotaShield, the first rotavirus vaccine is licensed in 1998 but is soon withdrawn from the market in 1999 after it is associated with an increased risk of intussusception, a form of bowel obstruction the Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment (CISA) Project was established in 2001 So hey, if you want to continue acting like nutjobs go ahead but stop hindering science like you have always been doing, science will always prevail because it works, religion does not. |
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If by "the entire planet" you mean everybody except the Jews that edit wikipedia, then okay. Observe their entry, it says the Nautical Mile is defined as one minute, a mile by very definition is a minuet of angular size.
No, I mean every educated person in the world knows a sextant cannot be used to measure distance.  Wait, so I haven't been following too much lately, you are using a sextant to measure the angular distance of the sun, which is around 0.5 or 30 arcmin. So what? |
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Of course it's hard to admit when you are wrong. Your article is simply false, the government did not lose any lawsuit. They settled and then it was dismissed, so yes, your article is proven to be bullshit, end of the story, if you can't even admit this, there is no point in talking to you, you are intellectually dishonest.
Either it was settled or dismissed, it can't be both. So I checked for myself. It was settled, because it was a FOIA suit, and the requested records simply did not exist, even though they were required to be created by law. Essentially the government had responsibilities under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 that it was not meeting. This does in fact have serious implications. It does not, obviously missing reports isn't good but it happens, they were meeting every other requirement though. |
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I thought this post was a joke, no?
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. So god has a cause? I thought you always said god has no cause because ''I'm the best and I know what's outside the universe and how it works'' |
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If you did a bit of research, you would find that the whole premise for vaccines is false. Simple cuts, or injecting water or simple H2O2 into the blood, has the same, basic effects of vaccines, without the side effects. What do cuts or water injections do? They activate the immune system (and H2O2 even kills off disease and neutralizes toxins). But they do it without the side effects of things like mercury which are found in vaccines. How in the world goofy are you? In some public places, if florescent light bulbs that contain mercury accidentally break, they evacuate everybody in the building until they can decontaminate. Back a few years ago, mercury in fish was warned about by government in a big way, and the warnings are still there. Decades ago they got rid of mercury in thermometers because of how dangerous it is. You can check it out with simple Internet searches. Now even the CDC and government warn us that there is mercury in at least some vaccines. What?!?!?!?!? How in the world crazy can that be? That they would even allow stuff injected into people to come near mercury. But they don't simply, accidentally, without-proper-care, mistakenly allow it. Rather, they PUT the mercury into the vaccines intentionally! And here you are, trying to tell people that vaccines are safe and good for you. You and a bunch of people like you are all menaces to society. What's your real purpose? Are you trying to promote the formal policies of people like the Illuminati, who are trying to reduce the world population formally? The populace needs to be warned about people like you. No no, don't try to run away from your article which was proven to be complete bullshit, don't switch like you always do, admit the article was trash. The article I listed wasn't proven to be BS. Rather, the article you provided simply shows how government and the medical often try to make it look like they are doing something, when they are not, really. Anybody who sits down and takes your article apart, word by word, can see that there is nothing that is actual proof for vaccines in it. The only proof it shows is that there are a bunch of people, both in government and the medical, who set up methods for supposedly finding vaccine proof, and supposedly for protecting the public. But the proof is not proffered. If it were, the people who won in my article, would not have won, because government would have shown the proof of the vaccine tests. That's always the way it is with you and the medical. You make it sound like you have proof for the medical point in question. But it winds up only being proof that you set up guidelines to find the proof. It takes court actions like the one I showed to prove that you, the medical, and government don't have the actual proof - https://phibetaiota.net/2018/09/rebecca-campbell-us-government-loses-vaccine-lawsuit-has-lied-to-the-public-for-decades-vaccines-not-tested-autism-will-drop-if-parents-use-this-case-to-legally-challenge-mandated-vaccinatio/. Of course it's hard to admit when you are wrong. Your article is simply false, the government did not lose any lawsuit. They settled and then it was dismissed, so yes, your article is proven to be bullshit, end of the story, if you can't even admit this, there is no point in talking to you, you are intellectually dishonest. |
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A sextant measures angles on a plane and 1 minute = 1 mile; this can't be refuted.
Space is made up of an infinite number of planes, all of which are either parallel to each other, or at an infinite number and variety of angles to each other. This is precisely why a sextant is not accurate for measuring distance and sizes of very distant objects in space. Where is the distance limit on FE? Does FE go on forever in every direction? Even if there is a dome, why wold space not go on forever in every direction, right on through the water above and outside of the dome, just like FE might go on forever past the point where the dome touches down on the ice/land outside the ice limit that GE people call Antarctica? Or do you think that the flat earth is a simple plane, made up of an infinite number of points that have a length/width relationship to each other, but no height relationship to each other? You seem to be missing a lot in your primitive calculations. The Sun's diameter is 32' (arc minutes/nautical miles) and this is a direct measurement with no calculations involved. Only when the question of distance (from viewer to Sun) comes into play is trigonometry involved and, the margin of error in either case is not millions of miles for God's sake. My proof stands and can't be refuted. How can you measure a projection? Impossible, the sun is nothing, it's just an image, you said that. |
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A sextant measures angles on plane and 1 minute = 1 mile; this can't be refuted.
Show me the projector of the sun!! |
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Sounds like you like science fiction. It's quite easy to understand. We know at least this galaxy exists, you might know the cause of everything that is in this planet but there are still hundreds of other planets out there and millions of other objects, how do you know they have a cause? We know through observation that some things out there have causes. The light, itself, that comes to us was caused to come by the stars and other things out there. To say it isn't is a contradiction to all astronomy. Combine that with the knowledge we have on earth of all the multitudes of causes, and the fact that we don't have even one example of anything without a cause, and all you have is more cause and still zero spontaneity without cause. We might have evidence that there are a few hundred other planets out there, but outside of our solar system, we still don't have proof for them. Until we actually get pictures of them, there could be other causes for the effects that lead us to believe there are other planets. If you want to be that critical, you might as well conclude that nothing exists, and that everything that we think that exists, including our thinking and identity is all spontaneous imagination of nothing. Scientifically speaking there is zero causelessness. In fact, causelessness doesn't even fit within the parameters of anything that makes sense. Check into it. It simply doesn't follow like that. It doesn't matter if you know the causes of objects or planets, the universe is as a whole is way different, you can't solve the problem like this, otherwise science would have done it already. We simply don't know if everything has a cause or not, you can keep claiming we do but we don't. ''Scientifically speaking there is zero causelessness'' No. Sounds like you think that just because you have the ability to think something up, that it must exist somewhere. Well, it does. In virtual form, in your head. It's called art, not science. Show some proof for causelessness. Nothing in the universe indicates that such is even possible. The fact that we don't know that something is possible or is not possible, isn't scientific proof that it might be. Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible because of the infinite odds against it - countless trillions to zero - and, because it doesn't even make sense. Scientifically speaking, that is proof... by the odds. People like you would rather look at the odds against winning a lottery, and suggest that you might win it because somebody has to. The odds against causelessness are way more than those against you winning the lottery. But you like to go on to say that it might be there somewhere. Get a grip. ''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe. |
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So what, what the fuck is your point here? Nothing will ever be 100% true, ever. You can't prove anything with an 100% certainty. Saying that is useless, that's why we use the best we have, the best we can do, which is scientific theories. Yes they are up for debate, if that's what you really want me to say, but not any debate, some idiots saying evolution isn't real shouldn't be seen as a debate. The evidence for gravity or evolution is so overwhelming that you basically have to accept it as 100% truth. We have been using and applying scientific theories for a variety of things and it works, science works. Someone who is unable to accept well established scientific theories just because he doesn't like them should NOT discuss anything related to science, and that's a fact heh.
Yeah pretty much. Everything is relative. That doesn't mean there is no truth, just you are statistically unlikely to ever see or know it. We can make educated guesses about things. That is literally the best science has to offer. That doesn't make it useless or something we shouldn't strive for, but if you don't understand this, what you are practicing is not science, it is religion. I don't really give a fuck about any of the other points argued here so don't bother arguing them with me. I am not here to defend them. '' That is literally the best science has to offer'' Which was my point all along? What's your point exactly? Do you think scientific theories are useless or not? I literally answered your question in this post, but you didn't stop frothing at the mouth long enough to actually read it. Loving the personal attacks in the reputation section because you can't handle a legitimate debate too.  If your point is that scientific theories are the best we have, then why are you arguing with me? That has been my position all along. My point was that badecker is a moron who dismisses scientific theories, calls them a ''hoax'' You can certainly disagree on some aspects of any given theory, gravity, evolution but calling them hoaxes simple makes you an idiot. |
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Hate is a disruptive feeling.
And atheists and believers need to get rid of the hatred towards each other.
Each person lives his own life independently and has the right to choose whether to believe in God or not.
Since there are different versions of a worldview, then there are different people and vice versa.
Just accept it.
And never consider yourself smarter than everyone, it is meaningless.
Do you believe HexHronoExus is inside you? If not, why not. I feel offended. HexHronoExus doesn't exist except in your imagination. If it did, most everyone would know about it. But few people have ever heard of it. The point? Stop offending yourself by using false proclamations of being offended. Most people thought the earth was flat, turns out they were all wrong, your point? Most scientists think evolution is a fact, yet you don't believe it. |
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If you did a bit of research, you would find that the whole premise for vaccines is false. Simple cuts, or injecting water or simple H2O2 into the blood, has the same, basic effects of vaccines, without the side effects. What do cuts or water injections do? They activate the immune system (and H2O2 even kills off disease and neutralizes toxins). But they do it without the side effects of things like mercury which are found in vaccines. How in the world goofy are you? In some public places, if florescent light bulbs that contain mercury accidentally break, they evacuate everybody in the building until they can decontaminate. Back a few years ago, mercury in fish was warned about by government in a big way, and the warnings are still there. Decades ago they got rid of mercury in thermometers because of how dangerous it is. You can check it out with simple Internet searches. Now even the CDC and government warn us that there is mercury in at least some vaccines. What?!?!?!?!? How in the world crazy can that be? That they would even allow stuff injected into people to come near mercury. But they don't simply, accidentally, without-proper-care, mistakenly allow it. Rather, they PUT the mercury into the vaccines intentionally! And here you are, trying to tell people that vaccines are safe and good for you. You and a bunch of people like you are all menaces to society. What's your real purpose? Are you trying to promote the formal policies of people like the Illuminati, who are trying to reduce the world population formally? The populace needs to be warned about people like you. No no, don't try to run away from your article which was proven to be complete bullshit, don't switch like you always do, admit the article was trash. |
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Sounds like you like science fiction. It's quite easy to understand. We know at least this galaxy exists, you might know the cause of everything that is in this planet but there are still hundreds of other planets out there and millions of other objects, how do you know they have a cause? We know through observation that some things out there have causes. The light, itself, that comes to us was caused to come by the stars and other things out there. To say it isn't is a contradiction to all astronomy. Combine that with the knowledge we have on earth of all the multitudes of causes, and the fact that we don't have even one example of anything without a cause, and all you have is more cause and still zero spontaneity without cause. We might have evidence that there are a few hundred other planets out there, but outside of our solar system, we still don't have proof for them. Until we actually get pictures of them, there could be other causes for the effects that lead us to believe there are other planets. If you want to be that critical, you might as well conclude that nothing exists, and that everything that we think that exists, including our thinking and identity is all spontaneous imagination of nothing. Scientifically speaking there is zero causelessness. In fact, causelessness doesn't even fit within the parameters of anything that makes sense. Check into it. It simply doesn't follow like that. It doesn't matter if you know the causes of objects or planets, the universe is as a whole is way different, you can't solve the problem like this, otherwise science would have done it already. We simply don't know if everything has a cause or not, you can keep claiming we do but we don't. ''Scientifically speaking there is zero causelessness'' No. |
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Did anyone ever believe Craig Wright is Satoshi? He is clearly a fucking fraud lmao, it's like he is not even trying, he had a simple way to prove his identity and he refused, after that it's game over.
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Finally we are starting to see where you are messing up. These are government and medical charts. Who knows that they are true, now that the https://phibetaiota.net/2018/09/rebecca-campbell-us-government-loses-vaccine-lawsuit-has-lied-to-the-public-for-decades-vaccines-not-tested-autism-will-drop-if-parents-use-this-case-to-legally-challenge-mandated-vaccinatio/ court has proves that government doesn't have vaccine proof? You are so silly. You get the proof right from a court case, and you want to go on believing fictitious charts... that even if they were true, there is no proof that it was vaccines and not nature that kicked in and got rid of the disease, and the vaccines were simply taking the credit because they used timing rather than doing the job themselves. Go on back to that website where vaccines produced more polio than nature. Probably polio was induced by some other medicine, so that there were outbreaks, so that the vaccine could be used to make more outbreaks, so that it could be shown later, when the natural drop came about, that it was vaccines that did it, even though they didn't. Lies all over the place about the effectiveness of medicine. So, I don't blame you for being skeptical. But when you won't accept facts, you must be part of the medical, and this must be one of the ways that you make money. If you did a bit of research you would know your post is full of bullshit. https://vaxopedia.org/2018/07/22/did-the-us-government-lose-a-landmark-vaccine-lawsuit/But of course, if it's anti vaccines it has to be 100% true always, right? |
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