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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: sudo apt get litecoin on: November 21, 2013, 07:02:08 AM
i am on ubuntu, and want to download the litecoin wallet.  i'm not an expert though and dont really understand how to unpack these tar files etc.

is there a simple command i can use like "sudo apt-get litecoin_qt" which will set the wallet up for me?

Not in the actual ubuntu repositories. You'd have to look for a third party repository which might be maintained by someone who isn't necessarily friendly to your interests.

The safest option is just downloading the official tarball and building it yourself. It is safer by leaps and bounds.
162  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Patrick Strateman - Buddy wants his Bitcoins. on: November 21, 2013, 12:50:31 AM
Yeah, Amir is the most likeable person I'm ever going to have arrested

The idiots tend to be likeable until they make you head desk.
163  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: PLAYTIN Wallet on: November 16, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
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Since you are already posting in here, is there some official statement from you/MPEx/Trilema/Mircea regarding this redlist/validation craziness?

You can check the #bitcoin-assets log here, he said something.
164  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] CryptoSource.org Launches Earn & Be Heard Program! - EARN Bitcoin! on: November 16, 2013, 01:10:01 AM
The first article published from this program should give you a good idea of what we are looking for. Keep the submissions coming, we are approving articles every day!

http://cryptosource.org/why-worldcoin-is-a-top-five-coin/

If you like the article, why not send the author a tip?

Want to earn tips yourself? Go ahead and submit an article: http://cryptosource.org/submit-news/earn-be-heard/

This kind of justifies the concerns expressed herebelow:

This is merely a program so people can write about what they are passionate about and earn a few bucks while doing it. Simply by looking at the numbers, it simply wouldn't make much business sense to pay out more than the article would generate. Also, we're simply asking for a 400 word article here, we're not looking to award anyone a Pulitzer prize Wink

Explain why you think bitcoin needs or would somehow benefit from excessive mediocrity.

That which is worth doing is worth doing well, why are you promoting halfassedness?

Now consider the proposition you offer here: cryptosource.org/submit-news/earn-be-heard/

Compared to what your OP offers:

Payment
  • Payment amount for the articles are at the discretion of CryptoSource.org staff.
  • Payment will be made once an article is posted.
  • Articles can be held by CryptoSource and posted at a later date. Just because you submit an article today, does not mean we need to post it today. The posting date is at the discretion of CryptoSource.org and is dependent on our current budget.
  • Full pricing information can be found on CryptoSource.org

These things where an author submits everything to the whims of your discretion is unattractive unless you can establish some sort of WoT presence.

I'm looking for opportunities to write for other venues but right now your terms and the impression your content leaves me with is unattractive.
165  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: PLAYTIN Wallet on: November 16, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
No need for this, our site already works perfectly Wink

And as long as we can help fighting this blacklist bullshit by supporting off-chain transactions we are doing the right thing.

Inputs.io was the last chance for people to offer off-chain as a justification for using a web wallet sort of arrangement. This shit's dead.
166  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ITTY BITTY EXCHANGE on: November 16, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
I see a lot of accusations of potential foul play.


The only real accusation is that you aren't forthcoming with information and people who have been around are pointing out your presentation sucks.

Your presentation isn't even as good as most people who engage in foul play. Maybe with actual verifiable information you can fix this, gradually recovering once people know you have a team and who they are.

The web wallet functionality you have advertised though is brain dead.
167  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ITTY BITTY EXCHANGE on: November 15, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
As for WoT, we did not feel it relevant to our size of business however we recognize its importance to smaller traders. Our market research has indicated that the average person will not use WoT.

Generally it is the larger traders who are more concerned with the WoT. People unoncerned with the WoT at all tend to be smaller traders or simply people who haven't oriented themselves to Bitcoin yet. By eschewing the Wot in search of attracting "the average person" what you are actually accomplishing is getting written off by people knowledgeable about this space and instead appearing merely to target the more vulnerable people. It isn't a good impression to be making.

Herp Derp "AMAZING PROMOTION" Derp

Right. Ignores the relevant questions, makes various vague assurances about "our research" and "our team", and stuffs in calls to action aimed at noobs.

You're officially in scammer territory. Get lost.

I've already responded but it appears the answers weren't read or ignored. Can't seem to find them

Let me re-iterate: I will discuss with the board at our next meeting what has been asked. If they vote to disclose, then we will. This was the non-answer. That the answer should have long ago been "Yes, lets disclose these things" suggests legitimacy in that most scammers usually already have this part planned out already.

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Anyone else, you are most welcome to use our service. You will find that we are not scammers. But I do encourage to judge for yourself. This asking to be trusted so that you can be seen to have been trusted is the problem. Making an "exchange" and then working on getting the trust later is problematic. The bettet way that avoids much of this criticism is having the "we" and the "board" you have been referring to explore the space first while building trust, reading, and learning things. This showing up as nobody then unveiling an AMAZING Company is doing things in the wrong order.

Kind Regards
168  Economy / Securities / Re: [CryptoStocks][Bitcoin Arbitrage Fund]Get lots of profits by arbitraging now !!! on: November 15, 2013, 06:53:58 AM
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All this aside : you can’t invest with Cryptostocks for the same reason you can’t swim in the desert, you can’t invest with Cryptostocks for the same reason you can’t sunbathe at night. You can’t invest with Cryptostocks because it can’t be done, nobody can do it. It’s a gamble, and as my PR aptly pointed out for the benefit of the forum muppetry long long ago, if gambling is your idea of “investing” then you’re much better served “investing” in one of the dice games. You can roll for “dividends” as often or as rarely as you can stomach it, you can set your “dividend” ratio in advance, and most of all you are actually playing a provably fair game. Which is a much better deal than the sort of crap computer-illiterate dorks with a ready software package and zero business experience can ever offer.

Full text on Trilema, chronicling for those of you who either missed it or weren't paying attention Cryptostocks' subconscious spelling out of why investing does not and cannot take place on its "platform", from the guy's defective self-IPO all the way to the recent listing of Dragon's Tale by some random scammer with no actual affiliation with the game.

Ah I see, so it's not a problem with the exchange itself, just for the investors looking for legitimate businesses?

Cryptostocks has been around for a while. The operator has a long history of his altcoin exchange getting "hacked" and his securities exchange had nothing happening on it because who wants securities demoninated in devcoins, or shares of the Altcoin exchange that was hacked at least twice this year.

Cryptostocks is only finally attracting attention because every similar zoo in their marginally better iterations: GLBSE, Bitfunder, and BTC-TC have died. The only thing that seems to have insulated Cryptostocks from that fate was its nearly complete disuse.

The Vircurex IPO was their one big thing so far. Vircurex is also run by the Cryptostocks guy. That  cryptostocks's one big dance was such a shit show suggests the operator is actually incapable of providing the services he purports to.
169  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any online wallets that you can use through Tor without Javascript? on: November 13, 2013, 03:39:51 PM
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I don't plan on trusting anyone. What I intend to do is generate a bunch of offline wallets by (for instance) downloading the html of bitaddress.org and using it at an offline computer. I'll transfer BTC to them and keep them offline until I need them. When I do need them I want to import the private key to an online wallet and immediately send out all the BTC in to a cashout account. The odds of that site being hacked or disappearing in the 2-3 minutes it will take me to do this are fairly low.

As far as using Tor, I want to err on the side of caution. Losing the BTC in any given wallet is less important to me than compromising my anonymity. That's why I'm paranoid about not using Javascript, given what happened with Tormail. I'm don't know much about Tor other than the basics though. Do you know of a way to route an local wallet client through Tor that would provide security comparable to using Vidalia with Javascript disabled?

And getting back to my original question, does ANYONE know of an online wallet that will work without Javascript, or does one not exist?

There is no online wallet that does this.

By demanding a web wallet you do seem to be demanding to trust someone.


Honestly BTC sucks at anonymity in the absolute. Have you considered pseudonymity as a substitute?

170  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any online wallets that you can use through Tor without Javascript? on: November 13, 2013, 06:53:04 AM
Regarding inputs.io please keep in mind that this was not a hack. It also didn't suddenly make online wallets more unsafe than they always were.

Due to properties of Bitcoin the truth of this at the moment is indeterminate, though I seem to lean in the direction you do. This is largely due to inherent properties of Bitcoin though.

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People will jump into online wallets again as soon as a new one that looks reliable appears, just because it is convenient. If you are the next scammer, here is my tip for you: get a good website design and people will automatically trust in giving their coins to you. Be sure to include the phrase "really safe, verified by blahblahblah" and then a link to a site like coindesk or any clueless news place with a paid story about the site.

I don't think an anon can set up an arrangement like Inputs.io anymore. That seemed to have been that last opportunity a venture like that could have had.

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Answering the original question here: how do you expect to generate private keys in a browser through some site without any javascript ? Do you know that HTML is a Markup language ?

Just use a fucking local client already.
171  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading on: November 13, 2013, 06:31:26 AM
Problem 4 : Permeating all the foregoing and sufficiently so to become a problem in its own right is the incredible arrogance of the recently liberated corporate slaveboisxi working as independent coders. Seriously, start working on the BTC securities trade system of the future without ever having worked for MPEx, without having humbly presented your inept ideas to the most grandiose master Mircea Popescu (ie, me), without anything like that ? O, why, because you’re a special little trainflake of brilliance and genius who can ? Really ?

LOL.....

I thank the guy who brought this quote up because the first time I read that garbled mesh of nonsense I barely made it past "problem 2".

I cant tell if Mircea Popescu is serious or just trolling at this point.

How goes mining BTC with a kiln?

172  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any online wallets that you can use through Tor without Javascript? on: November 13, 2013, 02:45:24 AM
You can use javascript empowered wallets if you use Tails.

Atruk's advice above is better than this though.

The only web wallet vaguely worth trusting anymore is blockchain.info, and only because it uses javascript to ideally allow you sole access to your private keys hough it is still potentially vulnerable to malicious javascript.

Here's a bit of a primer on why you don't want a random third party having your private keys, one on what constitutes a wallet, what happened to the last web wallet that tried the secure shared wallet model, and finally some extra credit reading because reading is informative.

Any time you don't have sole access to your private keys you don't have Bitcoin. How closely what you have to Bitcoin depends on the reliability of the counterparty to which you have made a deposit. Web wallets have been unreliable. Tor web wallets have been especially unreliable.

Honestly I don't really know that using tor to send a bitcoin transaction provides especially more privacy. Saying a BTC transaction was sent by IP address X is a daunting task to prove. More so than which pool relayed a new block first and even that is a challenging problem.
173  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any online wallets that you can use through Tor without Javascript? on: November 12, 2013, 02:06:30 PM
I'd like to use Tor with Javascript disabled for all my bitcoin transactions, but I can't find any online wallet out there that will both allow the import of private keys and work without Javascript? Anyone know of one? It can be a wallet, exchange, tumbler, anything really that would allow me to send BTC from an imported paper wallet.

Give up on this online wallet thing. The death of Inputs.io should have killed this being a desirable thing.

What you can do though is fire up a local client and route your computer's connection to the internet through tor when you want to fire up your Bitcoin client. As bad as online wallets have been on the clear web, tor wallets have an even worse history.
174  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Encrypted info found??? on: November 12, 2013, 07:35:45 AM
IDK but i was searching for someone on Google and found this

http://cryptolingus.net/dls/hashes/Raw_Dumps/PasswordFile_12.txt

can anyone tell me what it is?? I'm scared to say it may be our info but idk and hopefully everyone has changed their passwords ASAP.

This appears to be the Mt Gox dump from way back.
ok so no harm correct?

No idea. Is your username in there?
I didn't get to check cause after i saw Theymos i assumed it belonged here

Jed being user number 1 seems like a giveaway that it is the old MtGox dump.
175  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Encrypted info found??? on: November 12, 2013, 06:55:27 AM
IDK but i was searching for someone on Google and found this

http://cryptolingus.net/dls/hashes/Raw_Dumps/PasswordFile_12.txt

can anyone tell me what it is?? I'm scared to say it may be our info but idk and hopefully everyone has changed their passwords ASAP.

This appears to be the Mt Gox dump from way back.
ok so no harm correct?

No idea. Is your username in there?
176  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Encrypted info found??? on: November 12, 2013, 05:30:04 AM
IDK but i was searching for someone on Google and found this

http://cryptolingus.net/dls/hashes/Raw_Dumps/PasswordFile_12.txt

can anyone tell me what it is?? I'm scared to say it may be our info but idk and hopefully everyone has changed their passwords ASAP.

This appears to be the Mt Gox dump from way back.
177  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255 scammed me out of $2080 plus 27 BTC on: November 11, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
Where is kakobrekla when you need him?
178  Other / Meta / Re: Building a new trust list... Why should I trust you? on: November 11, 2013, 05:28:20 PM
After my most recent trimming and additions my trust list consists of:

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Gavin Andresen
kakobrekla
Micon
pankkake
greyhawk
rini17
MPOE-PR
DannyHamilton
ThickAsThieves

Getting Theymos and DefaultTrust off of the trust list too some trimming, but if kept to a depth of 1 this list should work for that.

I can't recommend this list though. A personal web of trust should be well, personal. It takes time to cultivate a good personal list of your own.
179  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Inputs.io Is Gone I'm Calling It A Scam on: November 08, 2013, 09:00:06 AM
I moved to this section from the Donator section a topic which I created to scrutinize Tradefortress activities:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211169.0

Please, read all carefully. You will find out that Tradefortress is involved in fraudulent activities since his inception in this forum. The tragic part is that Theymos, the administrator of this forum, gave special treatment to him, even after I produced the evidence which shows Tradefortress has been involved in the creation of sock puppets to dupe the forum participants.

Jesus there's a lot of shady stuff there..

Would have been more useful if us plebes who came into the coin after the GLBSE collapse and saw no reason to trust Theymos with coin could have seen this shit earlier...
180  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BTC machines Trade (advanced trading tool for crypto currencies) on: November 08, 2013, 07:17:24 AM
Hi OP

In what way have you secured your service?
Inputs.io was just hacked.

By now you should know that the answer for this is completely and totally irrelevant.

The failure of many to do something right does not mean the right thing cannot be done. The question of security always was important, it's just taken a lot of bullshit to get at least a few people to start insisting.

I feel like you missed the point, entirely. I hope and expect any service to do the best to protect itself and their users, by all means try to achieve that when making your new super-service-x.

Then the trust issue kicks in, you can't even know for sure whether a supposedly cold storage is actually cold storage. The moment a service starts using cloudflare providing ssl is close to pointless. You have no clue whatsoever about the code quality in the server, as well how well administered it is. If you ask the question "how safe is(are) your server(s)?" it is very likely that the least knowledgeable person will anwswer "it is the most secure thing ever!" and then sites like coindesk will happily reproduce such answer.

Maybe the answer is to stop using web services in general?
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