iamnotback ........you had me at ICO  (had me skipping this thread). I seem to understand why no coin other than Bitcoin and Monero is dominating the scene, the moment you start with an ICO you act like a for-profit company, no one will help your coin else for dosh, if you are an extremely hyped project like Etherium your premine will multiply your wealth and pay for many developers, all on the back of greedier fools, if you are Dash, Zcash or Bytecoin no one will want to help you and you will be viewed as a failed scam, in Bytecoin the tech was good enough to be forked and fair-launched, cryptocurrency is an unique kind of software in intersection of finance and opensource I don't believe, and the data shows that, an ICO or premine is acceptable for any kind of pretended mass-use. But lets hope iamnotback make many millions with his vaporcoin for now so he can sail happily in sunset, why not, worst people have become rich in this "business". Thanks for the well wishes, but regarding your criticism, you didn't read the thread. Try again. Satoshi got his 100,000 to 1 million BTC premine. Go re-read my responses about any ICO and keep that fact in mind. Sorry but how did Satoshi premine any coin? As far as I know, he started mining after announcing and releasing the code on the crypto mailing list. To qualify as a premine, the software must not be released to the public. Of course, back then no one gave a fuck so he mined a lot at the start. Dude I just hope you are right and can deliver a great coin that makes us rich. The bitcoin boat already sailed, and I dont want to wait 30 fucking years to make a million. And then we have the shitty altcoins that have already also pumped and just stagnate for life now. Theres nothing I can think of to get rich, nothing new or exciting. Yup and he had to or it wouldn't have fucking worked LOL Uhhh dumb ass's why do block's get found again ? man people are smart around here hahahha And him claiming BTC was premined is the least of it.. He also made it clear he thinks some conspiracy about who made it. He thinks it's some sort of clandestine NWO Illuminati US govt organized plot to over throw the traditional financial world and cause chaos etc. Based on what ? Your guess is as good as mine LOL Yeah I also think the theory of BTC being a creation of the NSA or whatever other 3 letter agency is a little bit farfetched... where is the proof? And what does the NSA gain by developing a tool that is used to move money around the world outside of their control? And even if they created it, it can turn against them. US Army created Tor, now they can't control Tor as they admitted in leaked Snowden documents. No one has ever been caught using Tor as far as the person was using updated Tails and no javascript. So even their creations can turn against themselves which is ironic. Shouldn't have they predicted that? I have no idea how the Tor thing works or it was released but that is the fact nowadays. |
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iamnotback ........you had me at ICO (had me skipping this thread). I seem to understand why no coin other than Bitcoin and Monero is dominating the scene, the moment you start with an ICO you act like a for-profit company, no one will help your coin else for dosh, if you are an extremely hyped project like Etherium your premine will multiply your wealth and pay for many developers, all on the back of greedier fools, if you are Dash, Zcash or Bytecoin no one will want to help you and you will be viewed as a failed scam, in Bytecoin the tech was good enough to be forked and fair-launched, cryptocurrency is an unique kind of software in intersection of finance and opensource I don't believe, and the data shows that, an ICO or premine is acceptable for any kind of pretended mass-use. But lets hope iamnotback make many millions with his vaporcoin for now so he can sail happily in sunset, why not, worst people have become rich in this "business". Thanks for the well wishes, but regarding your criticism, you didn't read the thread. Try again. Satoshi got his 100,000 to 1 million BTC premine. Go re-read my responses about any ICO and keep that fact in mind. Sorry but how did Satoshi premine any coin? As far as I know, he started mining after announcing and releasing the code on the crypto mailing list. To qualify as a premine, the software must not be released to the public. Of course, back then no one gave a fuck so he mined a lot at the start. Dude I just hope you are right and can deliver a great coin that makes us rich. The bitcoin boat already sailed, and I dont want to wait 30 fucking years to make a million. And then we have the shitty altcoins that have already also pumped and just stagnate for life now. Theres nothing I can think of to get rich, nothing new or exciting. |
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Its just usual that bitcoin will fall from 910$ to 840$ since it is volatile. Right now, it's price on preev is 872$ and no one can predict bitcoin's price a month from now it might rise more or dump but in my opinion it will dump. That's just a wild guess though let's just wait and see what's the future price of bitcoin this will be a good month for bitcoin and it will have a very volatile price thats what im certain of.
Dude it did not fall to 840$, it just hit 787$ only because some news of chinese exchanges about to be investigated. This is price manipulation by whales, or people panic selling because they are fucking pussies and will panic sell at the smallest FUD news. It's ridiculous. |
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I hate the chinese now. Stop crashing the god damn price you stupid chinks. Im never going to put a single penny on a chinese exchange, I'll keep using other exchanges. Then again if it wasn't the chinese it would be some other exchange crashing the price. Theres always some bullshit happening triggering panic sells. I hate this bullshit.
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I'm looking for the best books about blockchain technology that you would recommend me, that would help me expand my knowledge of Bitcoin's underlying technology. I know that there are many books about the subject, but I want to know which books are the best that you would consider worth reading. Any help would be greatly appreciated with this.  I would read all the work from Andreas Antonopoulos , mastering bitcoin is probably a good start, it goes pretty technical, then I would probably read cryptography books and other related books to crypto and not only blockchain stuff if you want to become a master. All the guys working in bitcoin have strong backgrounds in math cryptography etc...its a crazy field, I would never be able to do it. |
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Any day i would go for the Klitschko but age has caught up with him for sure and if you look at the records ,Anthony Joshua (18-0, 18 KOs) and Wladimir Klitschko (64-4, 53 KO) i really do think experience do count in boxing and it all depends upon how determined Wladimir Klitscho is as if he wins this match i am sure he will be having a rematch with Tyson Fury and win the match and he would retire if i am not wrong and that is what i am hoping to see from the Klitschko brothers.
I think Wladimir Klitschko has never been moer motivated than he is now. He hasn't faced a real challenge for ages, and with Tyson Fury he finally remembered what losing feels like. I think his loss has made him stronger, contrary to the case of Ronda Rousey where losing destroyed her confidence. I think Klitschko wins this and then he wins the Tyson Fury rematch, but I have my doubts Fury will fight again, he is a trainwreck. |
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Great news. LTC will be great again
75% consensus for segwit activation, F2pool already said they support ltc choice in development.
Where can I follow the % of segwit acitavtion? In bitcoin we have this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/versions.htmlSo it would be cool to see how much activation does litecoin have right now. I think it's great that litecoin is going so fast, 75% already? Damn, for Bitcoin is going to take ages at this point, unfortunately... I wish we could have segwit activate as soon as possible. Maybe I buy some LTC just to show some support. |
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ETH is popular altcoin, it is NR.2 after Bitcoin, altcoin with a lot of users - it is very important, when you considering buy/sale. ETH price can go up, see time graphs here - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/. This time problem can be - what would be the profit, if you buy ETH now and sale later, let say after 3 months. But we want to get rich in here. The coin may have a good marketcap, but at the end of the day you need a high price on the asset, and ETH doesn't look like an asset that is even designed to give massive gains due his inflationary nature, and the fact that is not an ideal way to store money long term because of his technology being too risky (turing complete is a big mistake to store coins long term). So this makes me thing ETH will never see massive prices like BTC.. |
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i did invested to chronobank a month ago. they are legit with the reputable people from crypto are involved. I'm a freelancer from job sites and so this should be a good crypto for me. if you happen to be one of those employees online who will take 6-8 hours aday for a rate, you should also consider chrono because of their LH tokens. It say that the Australian government is supporting it, where's the proof?
i don't think they will scam though but they may be able to show it later. But why the hell would you need an additional token for that? why not just create a website to list people offering freelance services for bitcoin? in fact im pretty sure this already exists. I just don't see why we would need an additional bitcoin for this, why not just get paid in bitcoin? having to deal with more tokens just adds more stress to people. Each country has different rate for labors/ professionals and so if a person from US recieves $10/hour, then i think there should be a token for it and these tokens are goona be created by companies under chronobank to which these tokens has stable value unlike the TIME token which serves as shares of investors to whcih we shall be trading as well. Thats how far i understood it. Its almost the same thing to cryptos with 2 coins to distribute. But with bitcoin once we have sidechains it could be possible to create smart contracts that release amounts of bitcoin that fit within the desired amount like "US recieves $10/hour" or whatever. Once we get sidechain, my fear is that if I invest on ETH related smart contracts like Iconomi or Chronobank and so on, they all will become deprecated once sidechains kick in. |
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40 years old against 27 years old and obviously in terms of experience Klitschko is more better but i think he has already through his golden era and maybe that is the cause why the odds for Klitschko is very high
Anthony Joshua @ 1.4
Wladimir Klitschko @ 2.84
Draw @ 32
Never count a Kltischko out. Age is just a number. Bernard Hopkins was a champion in his 50's, sure we saw im recently getting KO'd out of the ring but that doesn't matter, Klitschko is a freak athlete with long arms and great technical skills, he is taller and has a longer reach and a deeper understanding of boxing, all Anthony Joshua has on Klitschko is age and probably explosiveness but that isn't everything to win against him. Im giving K a big win. The odds for Wladimir Klitschko is attractive and i do not want to miss that.May be the high odds is because Anthony Joshua is British and he is undefeated with 18-0 is impressive but he has to battle and win against the veteran Wladimir Klitschko to cement is place and things are not easy for Joshua as he will be facing Tyson Fury if he wins this one or we are going to see Tyson Fury Wladimir Klitschko 2. Tyson Fury was supposed to happen months ago, but Tyson Fury broke his ankle or something during training, this caused the fight to be constantly delayed. I think Tyson Fury will eventually fight Klitschko again. I hope Klitschko wins this, I want to see a rematch, and after the rematch I want to see Josua fight Tyson, also Deontay is another HW that I want to see fight against Tyson. |
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Just like what happened in Newyork, Chinese exchangers are all about to be hunted down.
Same thing as always but he has changed the nicknames to actual readable nicknames (remember he used to use nicknames like FhiF4Rq or something which where easily noticeable. Now he's posting with normal nicknames so it's harder to stop, but just keep reporting it anyway. |
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garbage can
That's quite an arrogant statement. Ethereum is good competition for Bitcoin. Ethereum will help to speed Bitcoin's development and force it to make better decisions. A small hedge in Ethereum makes good sense. Piling everything on to Bitcoin with increasing levels of uncertainty is not a good idea. I think it can help bitcoin devs to not get too confident, but ethereum itself is not a competitor of bitcoin... ethereum can never be real competition because the technology is not viable to be a long term storage option. As we have seen, ethereum is too prone to hard forks and stuff, also the coin supply is inflationary which makes it useless to hold long term. |
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Poloniex always adds coins later in the game. A lot of coins get instadumped as soon as they get added in Poloniex because people did their buying in other exchanges that added the coins earlier. Bittrex I think it's one of the best exchanges to get coins faster than most people, they definitely add coins before Poloniex does. Of Course Poloniex got the best volume out there, maybe yobit can challenge it but im too lazy to learn how to use yobit and chinese exchanges in general. |
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We have seen thousands of attempts at setting up a successful group-buy system.
Microsoft in 2010, Google and Facebook in 2011.
I think an altcoin that doesn't promise huge returns, and from the start has a model that follows a grassroots approach, which naturally grows as a movement, will succeed where tech giants have failed.
I am thinking of organizing the creation of a new coin. With the community powering it's' growth.
I envision those involved starting off trying to get something like trash bags for half price. Then, branching out from there. **Trashbags just being an example, but it could be a good start.
Imagine buying all common household items through a crypto platform, saving $1000s a year.
I think this may be a possibility.
What about you?
How are you going to save $1000's a year exactly? If it's a centralized coin, the stablishment will simply tax the coin when you purchase stuff with it. You can already get discounts with bitcoin (purse.io), you are not going to get anyone's attention unless the asset isn't going to perform good price wise. If it's not going to make you rich people will use regular fiat to buy crap. |
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Can we expect any significant rise in the price of Ethereum or not? There has been a lot of negative publicity and sometimes it seems that the coin is just slowly dying. Is that true?
It's impossible to know... by looking at the all time graph, you can see how the all time high is far now, since 2 years the coin has been stagnating. Then we recently saw the 0.008 bottom. Question is, is this really a bottom, or is this another fake pump and it will keep stagnating under 0.008? your guess. |
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As of bitcoin being centralized... yeah we got some problems going on, the thing is, I don't see any other alternatives, and if im going to risk money in a digital asset, I feel more protected with Core devs than with anyone else, in terms of "if I hold money on this coin... will it still be here in 10 years?" no other coin gives me this feel other than Bitcoin CORE.
I agree. I know I have a decentralization (and instant transactions that isn't technological BS like Dash's or Lightning Networks) design solution which is not bullshit, but there is a hella long way from a design to a functioning, robust ecosystem and code. The fun of being a developer is actually the challenge and then making it happen step-by-step, enjoying the challenge and creativity along the way. Then you don't think about the mountains of work in front of you. You just enjoy it along the way, come what may. But if you are sick and can't enjoy the daily creative process, then it is nearly hopeless to make consistent headway. The fun of developing is being immersed in it, but one can't get immersed if they are distracted by feeling like shit. When I used to code, I would forget what time of day it was. I would be at the computer non-stop for 10 hours and not realize 10 hours had transpired. So yeah, you are 100% spot on. Maybe Monero is a legitimate code base nearly challenging Bitcoin, yet much smaller ecosystem. Maybe a few others that can nip at its heels. The only way an altcoin is really going to make that leap to the development and ecosystem resources of what Bitcoin Core has, is to have the momentum of a rapidly growing ecosystem. Remember this. This will be very important litmus test if ever I am able to get serious. Dash is trying to foment an ecosystem, but frankly I don't think they have to chops to understand what they need to do, nor the technology chops, etc.. But who knows, maybe we are incorrect. They are free to try. Do you think Monero has a chance? I don't know how they can solve the problem of the bloated blockchain.. Monero's blockchain will grow like 8 times faster, nodes will become centralized at some point. If I understood it correctly, they'll try to control with with a dynamic fee but I fail to see how they control the blockchain from becoming too big. At some point it will be too big for people to bother with downloading it. Even if they come up with something like LN... bitcoin's LN is better cause the nodes are smaller. I don't know much about Dash, I just heard it was heavily premined which I dont like, also that the masternodes were exploitable, so doesn't sound like a good long term bet to me in principle. |
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When hasn't Bitcoin been being influenced by those things you mentioned? It always has been. Do you have links to the rumors of Chinas new legislation? Pretty interesting stuff, I did a search and couldn't find anything recent. The links you are looking for are tweets by people that is in direct contact with china: Charlie Lee @SatoshiLite Jan 6
Charlie Lee Retweeted Charlie Lee
Ok, in all seriousness, I spoke to a relative in China and he says it's not any meaningful news. Just PBOC FUD. So China has not banned BTC! @SatoshiLite is a good tweeter to follow, he is the creator of bitcoin and has contacts within china and china's mining comunity. He confirmed it was just a rumor. https://twitter.com/bobbyclee/status/817371073108815872https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/817370542000877574Those two are also good to follow. So as you can see it was all a big misunderstanding... Chinese government releases a warning about volatility and causes volatility... funny actually. |
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pereira4, women are easily influenced by what others tell them. That is why I said trying to accuse a women of not being totally rational is asinine. They by nature are more socially influenced than rationally influenced.
So perhaps her social circle was convincing her that Bitcoin was doomed or co-opted or what ever. Hey and I sort of believe that too to some extent although I haven't committed much time to try to research the thoughts. I just see Bitcoin as a clusterfuck of centralization. The devs probably think they are trying to do what is best.
The definition of scammer is becoming so broad that I think all of us are scammers. Humans leverage their situation to their advantage. That is nature.
What is this thread hoping to accomplish? Discredit Amanda and Dash? Who fucking cares. It is a tiny microscopic zit of a marketcap and who has time to waste on such irrelevant crap.
I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics. But as for trying to discredit Amanda, that should be reserved for people have nothing to do with their life. I think someone wants to be self-important in a tiny microcasm.
Hey I did it in the past (discredit Dash). I guess it is a right of passage. The only thing I am motivated to do is to explain why Dash's technology sucks but in a white paper setting (not in endless debates on these forums). Because how can any one appreciate good technology if they don't know the difference. But as for what people choose to do with their funds and about individuals in those ecosystems, I am not interested in wasting my time being the altcoin police.
You are right, I don't think Amanda B Johnson is a bad person conscientiously attacking on other project, I think she was convinced that it was the best thing to do so, and of course she was getting paid to do "the right thing" which was to shit on Core devs and Blockstream and shill the second comming of Jesus Christ himself (Bitcoin Classic at the time... now Bitcoin Unlimited). As of bitcoin being centralized... yeah we got some problems going on, the thing is, I don't see any other alternatives, and if im going to risk money in a digital asset, I feel more protected with Core devs than with anyone else, in terms of "if I hold money on this coin... will it still be here in 10 years?" no other coin gives me this feel other than Bitcoin CORE. |
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I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.
I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next. Any link? Well maybe not explicitly, but look at the video history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOkShe started making videos on Bitcoin Classic and ignoring all developments on Bitcoin Core. They ignored the big updates like when 0.13.0 was released, if it was not for the Andreas interview segwit would have never been mentioned... tons of Classic videos which was the opposition, also reported on Unlimited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Sf7kcbDWkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2pD68KvnnsBlockstream FUD making it look as if all core devs are in Blockstream etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oowBF70HxMHere full FUD begins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFsNSpQsEUBU shilling starts promising delusional ending of blocksize problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfRTpqoYzM"age of altcoins begins" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkh3b_ykTAThen she stopped the channel and started promoting Dash fulltime... I dont know, seems clear to me. It started as a good, neutral program that had good videos. But it's clear as that as the subscribers and ad revenue grew, the channel took a certain direction and that was to hate on Core+blockstream while shilling Classic, then Classic was a failure, so Bitcoin Unlimites shilling started and so on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOk |
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I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.
I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next. |
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