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1641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: March 28, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
Best about bitcoin for me is bitcoin a new form of public savings were applied to a system that is not a hassle.

In addition to saving bitcoin, all the usual financial intermediaries at banks can be eliminated.
The holder is also no need to pay a service fee and registration.
that's true, decentralization really have a lot of benefit. people can't accept that as a full of benefit thing , they prefer to consider bitcoin system as a dangerous one and even scam scheme lol . banks really greedy when they have a regulation to take fee here and there , they are monster , sucking people money . people need some financial revolution and bitcoin ready to make it happen.
1642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: March 28, 2017, 07:42:48 PM
Nowadays i can see the future of gambling where there are lots of gambling website everywhere in the internet most of the time people will choose this than going to real gambling people will want to hide their identity for their safety. But here in my country central bank already considered bitcoin as our secondary currency.

A very smart thinking, it is basically people who want to do gambling will hide their identity, because after all, gambling is a place that has a bad disebagian of the people in the world. But not denied as well, indeed with gambling right we can get great benefits. Just to be able to achieve all that we should be able to control myself and not too large in the thinking of the benefits, because that will make us get big loss
 

I do love that too, anonymous gamblers and transactions right? But as I said to the thread, there are now casinos that requires your information, well, it is their security measures to avoid scams and something like that. But we cant still remove the fact that the future of online gambling is really bitcoon, and many gambling sites and casinos now are accepting them.
not really sure about it , can you imagine what would happened when you see the bitcoin price dropped to below $10 ? or maybe skyrocketed to $10,000 or so? i doubt a common fiat casino would ready to accept that risk to adopt bitcoin as their currency to play. need a lot of times to considering bitcoin to fully accepted as online casino currency.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 28, 2017, 07:20:40 PM
Every person in this world would want to benefit from everything that they do, it's always for profit, not generalizing everybody but still, if you would play and has the chance to win, then that's great. Win win if ever you win always.

Yeah even me, I am going to choose for profit and I will always get into profit. Fun is just a second choice but I'm not that greedy enough because of it. But sometimes it is fun if you are entertained with gambling and whenever I'm in losing streak I just ride it and had fun for it, instead of making my head hot, I go for fun sometimes.
I also want to earn money in gambling but of course there are no guaranteed that we can always win in our game every-time we play, and I know that when we enter gambling there is always a risk, like opening your own business, there is always a risk so if you don't know how to manage that risk then better not to start a game or enter any kind of business.
a tough call when you have decided to chasing for profit in gambling , you want having fun too actually , but the situation never let you to make it happened. so those people who made profit successfully in gambling are the one who have skills enough or the one who really lucky to have it. still i don't think gambling are the right place to make profit , isn't it?
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: March 28, 2017, 07:07:05 PM
At least a month or so.  I would invest in an established casino that's been around for a long time and put your money in for at least a couple of months  before you consider withdrawal.

I've been already investing for almost a year in 3-4 different sites, in a month you can expect from 2% to 5% on average, having higher profit than that or a loss is not likely. This can only be applied to established casinos with big enough bankrolls to be stable. Also I started recently investing in YOLOdice, they allow up to 10x leverage on investments, which I'm using and currently finding it pretty good for relatively small investments.
it's requireda lot of patience to collect a profit from an investment like that , 2% to 5% monthly with nothing guarantee the site would live for long time enough or maybe exit scam? if you put small amount only then that investment would not worth , but when you want to put bigger amount to invest , the problem are you really want to trust that big money to a strange people? a strange site? well it's up to you.
First thing before you are planning to investing your money, you must make sure these site are reliable and trustworthy (Well, you can read other's feedback regarding these sites, check their ANN thread, or google it). I will invest my money without any doubt if the owner is e.g Baryom, Dooglus, Dean, Ryan, or Stunna. Investing your money in strange gambling sites without do any research first is a very stupid move.

even if you have found a site have a lot of reviews and excellent feedback , you can't really trust on something online, not for 100%. no matter how trustworthy they are , an online casino could run anytime for some reasons. that was the risk of make an investment online , so just makes sure you have know about it already. the profit for an investment really high there , it's due the house always win rules . worth it actually with the risk there.
1645  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: March 28, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
Currently the us dollar is the most popular currency in the world. Many countries keep their reserves in dollars. This makes America's economy stronger. No, bitcoin will never be able to compete on an equal footing with the dollar.

Exactly, there are many powerful hands behind who have control on dollar and they don't want bitcoin to replace dollar because the main reason is bitcoin is decentralized and there is no central power who control bitcoin and one thing more dollar is accepted as a direct payment method in different countries of world and more people are familiar to dollar so it will never happen, that's what i think.
people really naive keep thinking and compare a new thing like bitcoin to a super power currency like dollar , both are in different level you guys can't seriously talking about this topic more deep. the expectation was too high to realized. i don't want to call it as impossible or something like that , but so far there's no reason to make bitcoin replace dollar, not now .
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 28, 2017, 06:45:23 PM
There are ways on how you can make some profits on gambling but always remember to take it at your own risk. To make a good amount you need to a have a big bank roll so you can play in a long run of course you should know how to manage it very well and also try to limit your bets.
If you are looking to make a good amount of money in a short period then gambling is the only option and yes it has its risks and you could make a good amount of money even with a small bank roll if you can parlay some good matches.I had win some pretty good parlay's when it comes to soccer games and i could make 10 or 20x wins with it,which is pretty decent with low bank roll,so the risk factor is negated with that .
yeah i have got a good winning with low amount stake like $10 and make it $400 on super high odds sportsbetting so there's nothing impossible for anyone to get profit in gambling with limited/low amount bet. just the matter of chance that of course really low, the odds shows it all. big bankroll aren't necessary.
1647  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • 2 BTC Blackjack Tournament! (new) on: March 28, 2017, 05:38:25 AM
Hey guys, thanks for providing all these useful feedbacks for the tourney. We're definitely listening. Keep'em coming.

We're already working on our next tournament and we'll announce it on Monday. Wink

On which Monday you are going to announce it? It is Tuesday already, did you mean first Monday on April? Or there is a delay for the competition?
if you look at the latest post of victorhing you will find that he has announced it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845325.msg18359621#msg18359621 , the next tournament of 2 bitcoin prize roulette mania that would be held in next week April 3rd . it's says ' April 3rd and Sunday April 9th ' idk what exactly he means about it , is there two tournaments? or the period of tournament from April 3rd to Sunday April 9th .
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 28, 2017, 05:26:29 AM
If you jump into trading without any knowledge and skills then there will be no difference between trading and gambling as in both cases you are depending only on luck to make profits which can be really risky so its always good to get into trading only after learning and gaining some knowledge about the market.

Yeah that's acceptable to consider that you are actually wasting your bitcoin and as well as your time, the same thing with gambling. As we gamble, we tend to aim for profit no matter how does the game goes if you lack of those things then in the end you are just doing the same thing.
If we think for those things which you mentioned then yes at that point we come together in gambling and trading. If a person will have knowledge and skills then there is no any risk in trading the same also happen in betting for sports in which if we have knowledge about the team and sports then we will win depending on our skills and experience.

If a person does have enough knowledge and skills with trading still there's a risk for it. We may not know that we are guaranteed to had good profit as we trade. As you mentioned with sports betting, look on it though we had exceptional prediction skills and analysis still we can't say that we have guarantee to earn a lot from it.
as long as you put your money on certain event you could always consider it as gambling , that's my opinion. in trading a lot of people believe that the market are really predictable if you do a lot of research based on many factors , then it wasn't uncertain as it closer to predictable with its analysis/research . but when you trading with zero knowledge and zero effort to do research you may have to consider it as gambling.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 24, 2017, 10:42:31 AM
Yes, I use analysis for gambling, that I did for this kind of sports gambling such as soccer, NBA, boxing, F1 and many more. Without the analysis surely will make me often lose.

We really need analysis even in deciding whether we will play or not, if we will bet or not and if we will continue when we lose. Analysis in terms of playing whether to bet that amount especially if we think its our day and the momentum attracts. Analysis in sports betting is really in need, while in cards or dice we depend on luck mostly.
Gambling really need analization to decide when to bets and when to place big amount to win big but sometimes you can easily know in odds of the game where the most low odds is about to win the game 70% im agreed in luck when playing is dice game not only for those skilled players or master or even v.i.p is loosing too.
lol if you say so then there must be a lot of people get profit and a lot of bookies bankrupt , gambling not working with that way. low odds doesn't mean you will win , having higher chance on bigger percentage doesn't guarantee you anything to win , everything done randomly in gambling , even with 99 percentage to win you still have a chance to lost , i have lost on that 99 percent chance when the roll are on 00.00 , super unlucky right? analysis sometimes work , but also sometimes not , just makes sure you gamble with the amount you can afford to lose no matter if you use analysis or not.
1650  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: March 24, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
this is actualy the hardest part in trading.
and there isn't realy a manual for it, since minds are so diferent form person to person.
You learn by time. you lose all your money once. some even twice. and than, if you don't give up like most people do, you learned your lesson
don't look up , always look down , it was the key for you to make a profit steady even it's small you have to be grateful everytime you won and get profit , then you would handle your greedy to not appear in your mind. look up sometimes could be a motivation , but mostly people gone wild and turn it to greedy , really there's almost no difference between motivated and being greedy it's in the same line.
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 24, 2017, 09:42:21 AM
I want to have a quality time with my family, relatives and friends instead of playing gamble games all over the day. If you have already a lot of money then no need to bet anymore, there are other legit opportunities that can help you to keep your money growing like having own business or applying for investments.
Not all gambler gambling for money some of them gambling for fun, money can add excitement to the game, but gambling without care about money is also quite fun for me, and don't expect to grow your money from gambling, it is an impossible things to do
no i guess , in the end people would feel they have to gamble for money! even though at the first impression you have planned to gamble for entertainment purpose and you do it long time enough gamble and really enjoying the game , have no care about losing money . but as time goes by oneday you would feel bad keep getting lost and tired , thinking about how to win it back as in deep inside your brain you don't want to lost! it's happened to me.
1652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 23, 2017, 09:23:17 AM
I really don't dream on becoming rich through gambling and so i am not having these sort of vague dreams.There might be people winning a huge amount of money through gambling and it is because they are lucky enough to win them .Since i do not dare to win money like that i am not a rich person through gambling.

The way you're good enough. But than I had ever experienced, that sometimes what you say can make you do what you really forbid it. Because in the gambling no one can control themselves, without the presence of a strong self encouragement to get out of gambling. If you've done gambling for 4 hours a day, then it is certain that you can get a disaster if you are not in control of myself
 
I disagree that no one can control themselves in gambling. If you have enough willpower and the right encouragement from the right people could really help a lot. Don't make yourself addicted because it could lead to destruction of your relationships.
gambling always makes your natural attitude come out and it was greedy. when talking about money , make profit we are as an ordinary human would always feel never enough , that's why when you gamble regularly it's very often you just ended up with a losing instead a winning. greedy always there messed up everything.
That completely depend if you are gambling with a small amount of money, gamblers who have only a limited amount of bankroll tend to be unrealistic because they want a bigger return for a small amount invested. The thing is, gambling does not work that way, we need to play with strategy and the right bankroll together, they are vital for success and if we are really serious with gambling we have to raise a good bankroll.
no that's not true , if i remember correctly there's leicester fan who placed bet on pre-season leicester city to win the premier league last season $100 at odds 2,000 and in the end of the season cashed out $200,000 , sometimes gambling work with that way , yeah unexpectedly!  no strategy , don't have to think about bankroll or something , just place a bet and voilà!
1653  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 23, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
There is very very low chance of bitcoin going below 700$ or 800$ forget about 100$ mark. The moment 800$ mark is touched in downward movement people will start buying more n more. Causing upward movement. There is new generation of users, buyers in market. The bitcoin market is more versatile now.
yeah just happened to one of my colleague , he looking for the bitcoin price dropped down to $250 at least since last year as he suffering quite huge lost back in mid 2015 . but hey instead the bitcoin price dropped it's keep growing until right now and he has a plan when the bitcoin price reach $1,500 he would go allin ! so yeah better to keep buying now while it cheaps rather than waiting for something that unlikely happened for now.
1654  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: March 23, 2017, 08:58:07 AM
when there of manipulation in trading you still have funds but in gambling when there was manipulation your funds will be lost and nothing left so I think skill-based gambling more risky
Even it's called with "Skill" based games that isn't 100% relay with skill, about 50% is reserved for luck (Good Card and Turn or something like that). In gambling, if you were lose you'd lose all of your money but trading is not. However, we can't tell these are same because they are pretty different in terms of mechanism and market.
yeah it's actually depend on how good you are on , when you have no idea to trade properly then it's just same as when you gamble on pure luck games. and that's true even a skill based games in gambling there's still required luck , as gambling always about something uncertain , a skills or a strategy just a way to make it more possible to win , to make bigger chance to win not to make it guaranteed to win.
Me, when I lose in gambling I do not directly think that I am unlucky, I always consider reviewing my strategies and find our what is wrong. Actually, luck is requires but it is only a small factor or to be realistic it should not be considered at all as we do not have the hold on it, what we can rely to be with us in the long run is only our skills and we have to continue developing what we have.
lol yeah luck are something not visible , can't even prove its existence but people keep believe on it , that luck takes big role on determine whether you would lost or win, soundslike makes non sense at all right? scientist would never believe on something like that . there's no harm actually, but at least better do something like figure out about strategy and improve skills rather than rely on luck only.
1655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 23, 2017, 08:46:43 AM
I consider both reason. I play it for fun and also for profit. But most of the time, running after money or profit through gambling brings a great negative effect actually. In fact, i faced much losses.

So if it is not for money, it cannot be not for fun. Because, once you have invested into this, you will be addicted to this.

But if the emotion can be controlled by fun instead of profit, there will be no risk of losing money i think as i have did it before.

I play for fun and I use my own money to do this. The meaning of playing for fun is actually you enjoy the game and you dont really play to be rich in a single night because of it. Sure , I do loves winning some money however the amount that I win is quite low therefore Im not really obsessed with being rich from it
you don't have to always get a winning to having fun in gambling right? if you know well how to enjoy the game you would understand. it's indeed addictive game , but as long as you stay on the limit lines i guess nothing to worry to become addicted gambler. just gamble and walk away with smile no matter what the result in the end of the game better than have to gamble like a mad to earn profit.
Other people are always thinking and threaten gambling that can be source of bitcoin that they don't gambling are made only for entertainment.. if you can notice it in the first time you will be attracted because you are thinking that you can be win but the truth is hard to win.. that can gamble you back in the gambling . I realize people who are addicted and experience of regrets about their money since i am a gambler too who lose a lot before that i thought i can make a big money in gambling but i realize its not as place for making money its just for entertainment purposes..
yeah mostly those people who interested in gambling due they think it's the easiest way to make money but they are forgot about the risk that they have to take. it's worth indeed but a lot of case show that people can't stick to the rules , they gamble crossed the limit and always looking for profit which it's just lead them into a deep lost in the long run , if you didn't realize early you could ruin your whole life.
1656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 23, 2017, 08:24:52 AM
Yes the Dice game is not a profitable game in gambling. This game is nice time pass, but we can not make a profit in this game. If you play a long time, I am sure you will lose more money in this game. Sometimes the long run will help us to win some money in dice game, but our greedy will make us lose our all winnings in that same day. So I don't have trust in Dice game. It is nor profitable for me.
I used to have my profits while rolling in prime dice and i made a good amount of money with a low deposit of just 0.2 btc and went on to win over a couple of bitcoins and then i have withdrawn everything and after that i was not that lucky enough to win like that but over all i am in profit considering the lucky run i had.
You are really lucky to make your 0.2 btc grow and atleast you experienced how to win in dice game. unlike me everytime i play i always lose. i guess im not lucky when playing dice so i switch to sports betting. if you dont win in a particular game better to stop playing for a while or choose other game.
believe me if you keep playing dice in the long run , there is no profit for you. at some point you would suffering unexpected lost and deeper amount to lost, in the end it force you to exit to play in negative profit or even continue playing to get more losses. dice game are the creepy game for me , wuick cash and quick way to make you broke enough .
1657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even now in 2017, why is bitcoin *still* not accepted as a major currency? on: March 23, 2017, 08:12:27 AM
Doesn't make any sense TBH. We should've seen it starting to replace conventional currencies by now.
Because there are lot of people still don't know the real catch of bitcoin. Especially, the volatility of bitcoin is the reason sometimes why some of the business company don't like to absorb and accept bitcoin, due to maybe they are afraid of the fluctuation that they might gonna lose in the end.
people especially common people who have a lot of fear about how bitcoin price at the highest price among any other currency make them worry and have to think more than once to start adopt bitcoin technology as their new financial system. to make a mass adoption we can't expect it in the near future , it cost long time . so far so good but the time is not coming and right yet for now.
1658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: March 23, 2017, 07:58:50 AM
Yes, I would like playing in low rollover casinos like 30-35x rollover/wager requirement. You know too high rollover will bust our deposit and bonus easily, therefore the lower the more likely to earn money from bonus.
sportsbetting always offers lower wagering requirement it's around 10 to 15 i guess , just check coinbet24 they offering sportsbet deposit bonus. no wonder why they offering lower wagering req rather than casino bonus , sportsbetting has bigger house edge actually if you know well. but if you have special ability to place a bet in sports then you might have to try non casino deposit bonus.

The lowest bonus for sportsbook is bet365, only 3X rollover and 1.8 odds, which can be very profitable, but they don't have bitcoin betting. We need some sportsbooks have such low bonuses in bitcoin gambling industry.
yeah some of my local sportsbooks have 3 to 5 times rollover with similar rules for the first deposit bonus up to $400, but well it's always different when talking about casino bonus rules , it has high rollover make anyone lazy to do it. but sometimes when you have a free money and a lot of spare time , to take this kind casino bonus quite good enough to fill your time and having fun with it , and who knows you clear the rollover and get the whole amount + bonus Cheesy .
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: March 23, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
I will say with all sincerity that there is no easy way to making a profit from gambling as the same effort you put in making a profit will also sometimes amounted to loss and its simply because its based on chance and nothing else. Looking for easiest way is not going into it in the first place because when you do, its never easy neither harder...
If you follow sports then you can make some safe bets and can win some and people are doing that for a long time,for you to be successful you have be a sports follower in order to make profit,i usually make a good profit with soccer bets,so is the reason i am telling this.
but still even you are an expert sportsbettor there will always a time you got unexpected result , because it's the real gambling. but yeah at least when you have a good and a lot of knowledge & experience in sportsbetting it gives you better chance rather than gamble blindly based on nothing just roll the dice or something. nothing easy especially when you want to make profit in gambling .
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: March 23, 2017, 07:28:32 AM
Nowadays i can see the future of gambling where there are lots of gambling website everywhere in the internet most of the time people will choose this than going to real gambling people will want to hide their identity for their safety. But here in my country central bank already considered bitcoin as our secondary currency.
things make people should love to use bitcoin as a currency to gamble online are when they don't have to provide their real name like when you have to upload the documents as KYC procedure. also moving the money with bitcoin much more faster , easier and flexible from a casino to another casino not like when you use fiat , it cost a lot of time and also fee everywhere , with that reason feel enough to make people interested and call it as the future.
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