Semi interested if price is negotiable. Is it possible to run it in the US? (Power draw question)

Your compliance label has a typo in the word "physician"

Ah my bad, I'm going to change my strategy.From here on out, I'm going to win the auction. 1.25BTC (shakes fist at fellow bidders)

Chain of possession for this coin
Casascius sold it to Nubbins who sold it to me who sold it to Blazedout

Lets see if I can win it back 

1.1BTC (ok now everyone stop bidding)

My review has been left here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896134

Big thanks to Spondoolie.

Intro:   Hey guys, as part of the Spondoolies SP20 legendary promotion, I was sent a SP20 unit free of charge, with the agreement that I would write a review about my experience with the machine.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887807.0

this is a link to the photos in the thread, if you want to see them larger: http://imgur.com/bi0Q12Z,1iHRoCp,izPBwI8,VMRGqDO,aLl5ugr,iZes4YJ,MYWvQ5r

As a general mention, I will note, my feedback is completely accurate to my experience with the machine and in no way biased. While I am pleased to have received my test unit, I will do my best to explain various features that I have experienced. In the end, Spondoolies wants customer to buy their hardware, but they don't want people purchasing units that they won't be completely satisfied with. Having unhappy customers is worse than having no customers. I hope to provide potential buyers with the information that they are looking for so they will know with complete confidence whether Spondoolie products and by extension Mining, is for them.

I have never been a big miner, but my introduction was with GPU mining. In addition, I have used every generation of Asic from various companies. As far as my total mining experience goes, I'd say I am proficient in setting up and operating mining equipment. I have operated various Antminer, Asicminer, Zeusminer, and BFL Asics, but no more than a few machines at a time in the past.


Shipping/Packing:   Shipping straight from their Israel location to the East Coast US, I received my SP20 in 3 shipping days. The packing was impeccable, very sturdy yet it didn't require a plasma cutter to open it.




The Setup Process Overview:
1) Obtain and Jump your power supply by connecting the green and black wires of your 20 or 24 pin Mobo connector. This allows the power supply to supply power via its PCIE 6pin Molex connectors without being connected to a standard computer Motherboard.

2) Plug in four 6 pin PCIE connectors into the Asic (Shown in pictures below)
3) Plug in your ethernet cable to both the Asic and your router
4) Turn the power supply(s) on and let the juice flow! ITS ALIVEEEEEE!
5) Log into the Miner's Web UI by typing myminer.io into your browser
6) Navigate to "Go To Miner"
7) You are in, tinker around with settings as desired.


Hardware Setup   It took me 3 minutes and 46 seconds to Open the box, Pull out the Miner, hook it up to a wireless router that I had prepared prior to receiving the unit, unpack two Corsair 850W PSUs (I will mention this in a moment) plug everything in, and access the UI interface.











Software Setup/Results   After everything is connected, you can enter myminer.io into any browser which redirects you to a Web UI list of all of the Spondoolie miners on your local network.



After clicking on "Go To Miner" you are brought to your miner's overview which shows your miner's current status.



The User interface is incredibly handy, giving the owner a huge amount of customization options to fit their needs.



Noise:   One of the most important features now a days when considering the purchase of an Asic, is the noise. Unless you have a data center, you don't want to be kept awake at night or irritated during daily activities by a box of roaring metal and chips. The place I chose to place the SP20 is my utility room. It is approximately a 10x12 foot room right off of my living room. I took a series of measurements to read exactly how loud the unit was. The measurements that I read are for a SP20 that has been running stable for a few hours, at 80% stock fan speed.

From a distance of one foot away, I read 59 dB
From six feet, I read 55 dB
From 8 feet (the doorway of my utility room) 50 dB
From 8 feet away with the door closed 35 dB
And my house's ambient noise was 31dB
And as a comparison, I measured the volume of my Television from 8 feet on medium low volume 41dB

My Experience and Notes:

So here is what I'm sure you really wanted to see, my opinions, and individual experience setting the SP20 up. As I mentioned, shipping time and quality of packaging is unmatched. Setup time was quick, taking only 3 minutes and 46 seconds. Something I will mention however, is that tinkering with the settings is mandatory. Its not difficult, but straight from the box, minor tweaking (no pun intended) is needed. When I first hooked the miner up, I used two Corsair 850W PSUs (overkill I know) with completely stock settings. I was getting 1.6-1.8+ Thash, however it was unstable, shutting down every hour or so which required a hard reset. While I can't be completely sure it wasn't one of my PSUs misbehaving, I believe it had more to do with overheating. Stock settings are set at a maximum of 288W per PCIE, 80% fan speed, .69 min Volts and .75 Max. When I changed it to 250W max per PCIE and switched in my Corsair 1250W PSU, stability improved incredibly. I have maintained a constant 1.6 THash hash rate at 1000W (slightly underclocked) for 12+ hours. As far as the noise goes, it is bearable. I am currently about 15 feet away from it with the door to my utility room closed, and it is almost unnoticeable. I would not recommend putting it in your bedroom or living spaces, but if you have a little space to tuck it away, it is very doable inside of a home.

Overall I'm very pleased with the SP20, a small profile with very reasonable hashrate and powerdraw, while it does require a bit of tinkering to get it working to its best potential, the very clean UI and ease of Over/Underclocking  makes it a very versatile machine. If you have that data center or an isolated basement where noise isn't an issue, overclock away. If you need to keep it close to your habitation areas, you can keep it stock or underclock it to keep the noise and power draw down. I'm glad that I was given an opportunity to test the SP20, and can safely say it is the overall nicest Asic that I have used so far. I am currently considering purchasing another  

If you have any questions at all, I'd be happy to answer.

Orrrrrrrr before people throw money into a coin, they could actually read and see if its stupid and non innovative or worth evaluating further as a possible candidate for investment. There is no such thing as a scam coin (with the exception of viruses which are banned here). If the dev is incompetent, or the coin is nothing special and doesn't have a future, DONT BUY IT! [sarcasm on/]We should also disallow threads having to do with Bitcoins because people could potentially lose their money with it. [/sarcasm of]

Take a bit of self responsibility, and invest smarter. If you have some primal urge to waste your money you could invest in my happiness and send all of your coins to me 

I'll do one better, if you invest in me, I'll even send you a pm saying thank you. That's more than you will get with a sinking coin!

Hehe, its been a while hasn't it? I only dabble with nuclear plants nowadays since DHS shut down my last one.

Something to note, I was having major stability issues with 2 Corsair 850 PSUs (overkill I know) I swapped those out and went with a single Corsair 1250W and my hashrate has stayed completely stable for a few hours now, The SP20 UI is showing a bit under 1.6THash, but Eligius has been reading it as 1.8 Thash consistently. 80% feed capped at 1000W max.

Haha, thats pretty funny. I dont see why people even try that? Anyway, I believe that all of the asics are sold. I have reached an agreement with a buyer and just waiting on finalizing details. I'm going to close the thread.

Got mine as well, took me 3 minutes and 46 seconds to set it up, including unboxing, unpackaging PSUs, jumping them, configuring the miner status, and then running. Pretty happy with that so far. I didn't do anything with IP/Mac Addresses, I just plugged it in and went to myminer.io

edit* about as loud as a low powered vacuum cleaner. However I haven't tinkered with the fan settings or anything else yet, its just been running at 80% fan. Like most asics I suppose at stock settings, its fine if you have a basement or a room out of the way, but I probably wouldn't put it in a living space.

Thanks for the info. I'll contact everyone who has shown interest when I know one way or another.

Just an update, I have a pending offer for everything. I believe the shipping costs out of the country to be prohibitive, so I doubt the deal will go through, but that is up to the buyer to decide I suppose. I will contact everyone who has made an offer or submitted a question when I know for certain.



I would highly advise against the VMC Asics if you aren't an experienced Asic user. (This coming from the seller must mean something   ) If shipping anything out of the country is feasible, it would be the VMC card, as it weighs about 1 lb itself. As far as how much power they use, the box rates them @ .70-.99 Watts per GHash, so between 525 and 750 Watts. These being rare asics I can't say for certain, so I'm marketing them at 750 Watts to be safe.

He would be removed from default trust. I just want to make sure we are still talking hypothetical, we can't prosecute a guy for something he could possibly do. Theymos could make 50 accounts, give himself fake trust, and then scam someone out of free dancing lessons, but I'm not asking to remove Theymos from default trust yet.

Shipping is not included in the cost of the hardware, I can calculate that on a case by case basis if interested.

You are correct about one thing, the staff not caring to get involved in disputes. We aren't the government out to protect bank account balances or to tell people to play nice, we are pretty much here just to keep things organized and to step in when there are major issues ie death threats, etc. This is a public forum, you can come here to chat with other people of similar ideology or that are interested in similar technologies. We aren't interested in babysitting or problem solving, if adults can't solve their own problems, then thats on them. If people don't like Default Trust, remove it from your trust lists, if you don't like CanaryInTheMine's trust picks, remove CanaryInTheMine from your trust list, no one is helpless.

I haven't reviewed the people on CanaryInTheMine's list, nor do I care to. Because as above, its not really my problem, people can work out any issues with other parties involved. But I agree with their above post to an extent.

Canary is staking their reputation on the people they add. If there is an issue with the people they add, its on Canary to handle. Self interest is the best motivator to keep a corruptible system honest, and every system is corruptible.

price dropped on everything.

But as you said, those with a direct interest have reason to keep the default trust list under control. Thats fine and dandy for a "Default" Trust group. I honestly think that for new members joining the forums, Default Trust isn't a bad way to start off. By the time they are no longer newbies and can gauge the community, they can build their own trust groups. There is nothing stopping a decentralized trust network from starting in tandem with Default trust. If people are too lazy to switch from default trust to their own systems, that would be the case regardless of whether Default Trust was in play or not. By the time you are around a while, you realize trusted trust and untrusted trust don't make a difference, you find yourself looking for specific names as references rather than green letters. For example Mabsark under CanaryInTheMine. I don't care if they are on default trust, I had no idea who they were before this thread, so I'm not going to value their feedback anymore than someone else I dont know. I'm looking for feedback from longtime members and businesspeople before I trade with someone.

Having multiple accounts is something we can't enforce, so it would be irresponsible to say that its disallowed. The number next to someone's name is pretty irrelevant, if anyone is using the trust system solely by the green or red number, thats their fault. Its like Ebay feedback, before you buy a yacht from someone with 100 positive feedback for purchases, you should probably check and see what that feedback is for. Allowing people to leave more than one rating really isn't a big deal. I haven't seen any issue with people spamming feedback. Giving someone positive feedback does not mean that they are on the default trust list, I have done many deals with people, but if you check my sent feedback it accurately describes the transaction so that people can gauge what my feedback means for themselves. I have added four people to the default trustlist and left probably 50 different positive feedbacks. Mr. CanaryInTheMine gave positive feedback to people he had a positive transaction with, not a problem. That goes back to the point of reading what someone has gained feedback for and the Ebay example. If someone has 50 positive trust for buying things from group buys, that doesnt mean they are trustworthy to sell you something. The feedback system is a tool, there is no preventing it from people that use it wrong. The default trust system just means that someone in the line trusts that they will give others accurate feedback. If not, changes are made.

People with multiple accounts would then have greater weight. With your proposed system, you just make 100 accounts, age them, and then become very trusted, and start scamming, or ruin/build up other's trust. That would also give people a free pass to scam newbies and jr.members because they couldn't voice their opinions. As it is now, the trust system is not moderated. Allowing staff to alter trust in any way would leave it completely useless. Staff members could then be influenced to do shady things for others or themselves.

As it is now, the people on the default trust list have a vested interest in the forum. First Theymos, those he picked, and from there those that the 2nd layer has picked, etc. If someone does something wrong with the trust system while on the default trust list, it effects the person above them, discouraging abuse, and encouraging those in a position to add others to the trustlist to think carefully about who they add, and act quickly to fix any situation that comes about. If you don't like the default trust system, individuals can remove the Default Trust list from their own account preferences, and replace it with people they personally trust.

If you have a better solution please speak up. As it is the current system is the most stable that we have had. Find a plan for forum trust that can't be exploited, or has a lower risk of being exploited, and I'm sure it will be adopted.