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Im tired of arguing. As I mentioned, it both PDs and Spixels fault. Stunna, please fix this error.
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Come on pls , u still had 20% chance to lose , UR CHANCE WOULD BEEN THE SAME even if seed did not changed. I rely can't argue more. There is just no point. What u are saying doesn't make any sense at all. Ur chance to win that bet was absolutely the same regardless the seed change, yes 99.99% outcome of bet would be different but ur chance to lose is EXACTLY the same !
I dont think you understand. The SEED makes a HUGE difference in the roll. Yes it makes 99.99% chance that bet outcome will be different. BUT UR CHANCE AFTER THE CHANGED SEED is exactly the same as if u did not change it ! I am assuming the server seed stays the same throughout my explanation just for simplicity. Lets assume he is doing 2x and to win he has to roll under 49.5 If he sets the seed to "Hi" he might have rolled a 91 and would have won, but because PD made him refresh, the seed changed and he rolled a 19 and lost. The same thing can be applied to server seeds (assuming he set the same client seed). When he refreshed, the server seed had changed. |
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Well if house always win, they don't need the edge then.
They only "always win" because of the house edge. The saying "the house always wins" has 2 parts. The first part is the mathematical part, and they will eventually make their money back. The second part is that people keep on betting if the win. They only stop once they lose their money and learn their lesson! |
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Come on pls , u still had 20% chance to lose , UR CHANCE WOULD BEEN THE SAME even if seed did not changed. I rely can't argue more. There is just no point. What u are saying doesn't make any sense at all. Ur chance to win that bet was absolutely the same regardless the seed change, yes 99.99% outcome of bet would be different but ur chance to lose is EXACTLY the same !
I dont think you understand. The SEED makes a HUGE difference in the roll. |
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Nahtnam, thanks for showing some degree of support. I don't agree it was my fault though, sure it was a risky bet.. but its not true that the house always wins otherwise nobody would win a bet  I'd have accepted this loss as my own (despite some initial grievance) had the technical error not occurred. I think PD should take responsibility for it since its likely to have caused such a detrimental loss. This is true. PD should fix this error. |
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I really don't think I lost this bet fairly. The client seed was forced to be changed because of a technical error. I did not realise this happened because of a page reset at the time of betting.
You wouldn't be complaining if you won. You might've lost if no error happened as well. That's not the point, the point is there was a technical error at pd which caused the client seed to be changed. I lost only 12 bets later and had based my bet on previous rolls on the old seed. U based ur bets on previous rolls. Google gamblers fallacy coz that is what that is. And like i said ur seed doesn't remember ur previous rolls even if it stays the same. I will wait for support to reply because there was a technical error at PD. My betting strategy is irrelevant. So question. If that client seed had won with the technical earlier causing the client seed to be changed, would primedice have a right to say "Uh the error caused you to win thus were taking back your bet"? No. And you don't have a leg to stand on either. No, because is was their error. If you want, I'll offer you a 1:1 wager that primedice does not return your BTC from that bet to you. Choose an escrow if interested. Up to 1 BTC bet. But there's possibility you might have lost too. It's probably your responsibility to check things are as they were before you make the bet. I don't think you're gonna get your money back here. I don't want to argue but I really don't see how this is fair. There's nothing for me to have checked. I guess some people just like to argue against the 'sore loser' Primedice's error most likely resulted in me losing over $500 worth of btc. I'm hoping for the best anyway, I appreciate your input but would you think the same if it happened to you? Guys its both PD's fault and Spixels fault. Its PD's fault for tech issues, and Spixels fault for betting in the first place (the house always wins) Thats life. |
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Guys I'm very upset I deposited .91 earlier, proceeded to roll a few bets and won. I got to .96, planned to get 1btc then cashout. Only 20 rolls or so after my deposit I noticed a bet didn't go through. I decided to bet again and got an error popup. I was forced to refresh the page and continued betting. 12 rolls later after refreshing the page I had lost everything on 80% win chance. If the site had not bugged out, the client seed would have been different and I likely wouldn't have lost. Not very impressed, how can these errors appear out of nowhere? This was all my BTC and I'd just recovered from another big loss  I can't believe it. First of all that thinking about if client seed did not changed i woulda won is so slim thinking  . Its like saying if i bought another ticket for lottery i woulda won . And for those errors its something to do with ur browser or internet connection, i bet there full day, and leave autobet over night , never got any error. And third, u should never bet more than u can afford to lose. Actually you are wrong, its technically PD's fault. Once the error comes up, you have to refresh the page which resets the seed and the server seed. I was betting 0.045 once and the error came up 3 times. Then on the fourth time I lost because I didnt set a seed. U rely believe in that . Every roll is independent . No matter if u change seed or not. That is only superstition . Yes, every roll is independent, BUT changing the seed makes the site ACTUALLY provably fair. If you dont change the seed then the site is not provably fair. |
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Btw, Mattyon send us personal message and he would like to give away 0.01, 0.05, and 0.05 BTC to some ED's players . Thanks Matt! So, on his behalf, how about a little challenge, woohoo... - Matt's favorite number seems to be '9' (since he creates 4 Id's ended with 9, 99, 999, and 999
 ). - Whoever got a roll number contain at least three '9' with min. bet amount of 0.01BTC and replying in this thread first with the bet ID is eligible to win. For example 89.012 is roll contains only one '9' and 91.992 contains three '9'.
- There will be 3 winners depend on who post first, 1st prize: 0.01BTC, 2nd prize 0.05BTC, 3rd prize 0.05BTC.
- The bet must happen after this post
87444 boumalo 13:49 94.4248 <80.0000 0.01000000 1.237625× 0.01000000 2nd and 3nd prize are more than 1st prize... I prefer 0.05 than 0.01 There is only 1 9 in there. |
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Guys I'm very upset I deposited .91 earlier, proceeded to roll a few bets and won. I got to .96, planned to get 1btc then cashout. Only 20 rolls or so after my deposit I noticed a bet didn't go through. I decided to bet again and got an error popup. I was forced to refresh the page and continued betting. 12 rolls later after refreshing the page I had lost everything on 80% win chance. If the site had not bugged out, the client seed would have been different and I likely wouldn't have lost. Not very impressed, how can these errors appear out of nowhere? This was all my BTC and I'd just recovered from another big loss I can't believe it. First of all that thinking about if client seed did not changed i woulda won is so slim thinking . Its like saying if i bought another ticket for lottery i woulda won . And for those errors its something to do with ur browser or internet connection, i bet there full day, and leave autobet over night , never got any error. And third, u should never bet more than u can afford to lose. Actually you are wrong, its technically PD's fault. Once the error comes up, you have to refresh the page which resets the seed and the server seed. I was betting 0.045 once and the error came up 3 times. Then on the fourth time I lost because I didnt set a seed. EDIT: The error comes up for me frequently even though I am connected VIA ethernet at 30-50 mbps speeds. |
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8 BTC is more than enough  Starting to play right now, 0.5 BTC now 1.51 BTC How the hell do you make that much? Martingale? Yes I rely heavily on martingale but extremely high risk if you aren't use to taking losses Just got 1.92 BTC Oh damn. Whats your starting bet? Usually 0.0004 Ah, kk. |
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Heh relax lads,I know it was sold with a low price but that was the intention since this was my first auction here! I am really sorry notserp,but I promise you will have time in the next auction(I will provide gifts again really soon since I get these as rewards)
Cant wait! |
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8 BTC is more than enough Starting to play right now, 0.5 BTC now 1.51 BTC How the hell do you make that much? Martingale? Yes I rely heavily on martingale but extremely high risk if you aren't use to taking losses Just got 1.92 BTC Oh damn. Whats your starting bet? |
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8 BTC is more than enough Starting to play right now, 0.5 BTC now 1.51 BTC How the hell do you make that much? Martingale? |
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I've decided to offer this service again! Check the OP for info on how to purchase a vanity.
I'm looking forward to working with you!
How much would 1nahtnam cost? There's a very slim chance of creating a vanity with 1Nahtnam let alone 1nahtnam. I'd generate it for you for ~2BTC. (Vanity Pool's price is 8.3 BTC) Ah, damn. What's your budget? I can negotiate price wise. No, its ok. Dont really need it. No problem, thanks for inquiring! Good luck! |
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I've decided to offer this service again! Check the OP for info on how to purchase a vanity.
I'm looking forward to working with you!
How much would 1nahtnam cost? There's a very slim chance of creating a vanity with 1Nahtnam let alone 1nahtnam. I'd generate it for you for ~2BTC. (Vanity Pool's price is 8.3 BTC) Ah, damn. What's your budget? I can negotiate price wise. No, its ok. Dont really need it. |
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I've decided to offer this service again! Check the OP for info on how to purchase a vanity.
I'm looking forward to working with you!
How much would 1nahtnam cost? There's a very slim chance of creating a vanity with 1Nahtnam let alone 1nahtnam. I'd generate it for you for ~2BTC. (Vanity Pool's price is 8.3 BTC) Ah, damn. |
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I've decided to offer this service again! Check the OP for info on how to purchase a vanity.
I'm looking forward to working with you!
How much would 1nahtnam cost? |
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I wish you guys good luck. Ill make an account over there. No need to all be in one spot anyway. Hazards forum at cryptolife is really good too. Its a good idea for everyone to have accounts at a few forums, were supposed to be decentralized right!!  Thanks for signing up. Yeah, having a few accounts at different places can let you be resourceful! |
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