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1741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Lisk about to explode! on: February 17, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
Lisk is crashing. What's going on?
A healthy correction.
1742  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 17, 2018, 10:02:03 PM
^^^ you've failed to understand that gravity isn't real. Your question isn't valid. Sad
Lazy troll is lazy. What a snorefest.
1743  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 17, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
You could visit a mining site and go down haha. How flat do the believers think the world is? Is it supposed to be 2 dimensional or are they saying its a few miles wide or what?
I actually never heard about how they think about the depth of earth.

@Batman: Can you dig "through" earth and fall off?

If you go up to the top of a building - don't make it a tall building; 3 stories high is enough - and you jump off, do you fall up or down? You fall down, of course.

The point? If you dug through the earth to the other side, and you fell out of the hole you dug through, can you call that falling up?

 Grin
If you could actually dig a whole through a (real world) earth and jump through it without getting molten you would eventually move from falling down to falling up, because the center of gravity is in the center. On a flat plane that would be different, hence my question toward the flat earth "truther".

You've got to understand gravity is not for real. The force pushing you to the ground is caused by your body displacing the atmosphere and the reactive pressure pushing your dense body down.
It doesn't matter what name you choose to assign to the phenomenon of "stuff" being attracted to massive bodies. You could call it a force of repulsion from low mass/energy regions to such with more. It doesn't matter. The fact is that there's some kind of gradient that has predictable effects on our environment. And this kind of gradient would, regardless of how you choose to label it, cause a change of direction to be well defined in the event of something falling through a spherical body.

You still haven't really responded to the "flat/plane" scenario.
1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
this thread is sucking dog balls right now

wtf?
Did you think that threads could somehow be perma bull markets ? Smiley

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.
Even with the internet around today, the vast majority of people still doesn't know about the most basic facts about how modern society has come to be.
1745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: February 17, 2018, 09:19:49 PM
It's blazing fast and quite cheap when WuVer aren't flooding the blockchain in conjuction with BCash wash trades though?
1746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: February 17, 2018, 09:14:55 PM
Is the wallet out yet? If not I would expect some delays on the DEX. Which is fine. I'd rather have a strong DEX late, than some Parity style crap early.
1747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 09:08:53 PM
Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Most Americans don't know that in 1913, a permanent Federal income tax was passed into law primarily because it was sold to the American citizens as a "tax on the rich". And they bought it.

Ever since then, the rich have been lobbying Congress to pass tax loopholes to enable the massive shift from taxing the rich to purely taxing the middle class and the poor.

Smart fuckers. Learn to play their game, or get left in the dust.
The irony is too strong. Bunch of dweebs trying to legally steal money from "the rich" getting screwed. I genuinely love the world that we live in.
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: February 17, 2018, 09:02:01 PM
BTC is NOT dead. The plan is a shift to Ethereum. Maybe. In future.
There is no such plan. They will likely exist alongside. But in either case, there are developers who are working on implementing smart contracts on the Bitcoin blockchain, and tokens already exist on it (such as NVO and Counterparty).
1749  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 17, 2018, 08:51:57 PM
You could visit a mining site and go down haha. How flat do the believers think the world is? Is it supposed to be 2 dimensional or are they saying its a few miles wide or what?
I actually never heard about how they think about the depth of earth.

@Batman: Can you dig "through" earth and fall off?

I think there's too much current flowing through the ground and temperature is too hot to penetrate that layer; imagine puncturing a can of molten rock and metal under high pressure that comes into contact with cold water. That's more than just falling off if you get through.
Right. What is that current contained in? And what are the dimensions of the container? What is on the other side of it?
1750  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 17, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
You could visit a mining site and go down haha. How flat do the believers think the world is? Is it supposed to be 2 dimensional or are they saying its a few miles wide or what?
I actually never heard about how they think about the depth of earth.

@Batman: Can you dig "through" earth and fall off?

If you go up to the top of a building - don't make it a tall building; 3 stories high is enough - and you jump off, do you fall up or down? You fall down, of course.

The point? If you dug through the earth to the other side, and you fell out of the hole you dug through, can you call that falling up?

 Grin
If you could actually dig a whole through a (real world) earth and jump through it without getting molten you would eventually move from falling down to falling up, because the center of gravity is in the center. On a flat plane that would be different, hence my question toward the flat earth "truther".
1751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 08:47:20 PM
Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

"getting" ?
The US was one of the countries that I was considering moving into for tax reasons. But the fact that they have a fucking exit tax on top of the already criminally high tax rates put me off. Not to mention all the fucking idiots that feel like starting shit in public for no good reason (retards like the dipshit in Vegas, Antifa, etc.). Having to look up if there's some stupid event that should best be avoid whenever I go out doesn't seem particularly fun.
1752  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 08:34:08 PM
So since trillionaires are almost a given in the coming decades, how much longer do you think until the global economy could feasibly produce the first quadrillionaire?
I am saddened to know that I will never become more than a billionaire   Cry
Are you that old? Or just no ambition to try and shoot higher?
There is no hard limit to how much one bitcoin can be worth, but there is a soft limit. And I only have so many of them.
So it's the latter (aka no interest to invest, trade, or start ventures).
Sure, maybe, but that's not really my thing.

My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do. That's why I went all in on bitcoin in the first place, to make enough money so I wouldn't have to work and could focus on my hypothetical future family, because that's what kids need to develop properly. They need their parents around. So if it's a choice between having enough money to support a woman and five kids, or having twice as much money and seeing them a quarter as much, then it's an obvious choice.
How are we not designed to work 24/7? That's what people were doing when they lived in the woods and that has changed only fairly recently as far as I'm aware.
No, the actual work in a tribe is maybe 4 hours a day or so. The rest of the time is spent socializing, fucking, and relaxing.

Agriculture allowed us to feed... say 20 times as many people on the same amount of land. But it also meant a lot more work. And the resulting population growth gave us a whole other set of problems.

I do share the sentiment of making sure to have enough money to be able to freely ignore the world whenever I choose to. But I don't see myself not spending most of my time working on something, regardless of whether or not normal people would consider it work. I find picking up instruments and composition, science, cooking, investing, traveling and whatever else highly interesting. So the reason for me wanting full financial independence for life would be to the ability to learn and experience as much as I possibly can. And while I really want kids that I can homeschool and learn stuff with together, I'd need to make sure that the wife was perfect for that kind of lifestyle. Don't want someone nagging all day about how they know better when they don't.
But in either case, whatever you do, unless you're just consuming 24/7 you'd be "working" in my book. Life seems more of a choice between doing something fulfilling and mindlessly playing along.
What we today call a job is, effectively, slavery. Yes people can choose what kind of work they do, but they can't decide if they want to do it - they have to work.

Jordan Peterson said it perfectly. If you can't say no, you can't negotiate. And if you can't negotiate you are a slave. Jobs are slavery, even if we are determined not to think of them as such.

And it's not like I do nothing but sit around, now that I have the option to do so. I have been studying anthropology for the past... almost 7 years now, and see myself doing it for perhaps the rest of my life. It is endlessly fascinating and there is always more to learn, and it has practical utility. But it is not a job. It is something I choose to do, and for which I receive no direct compensation. And that makes all the difference. I could not do it to the same degree if I was saddled with a Job.
Fair enough. I was only thinking about the actual process of a job vs the process of learning something else. The lack of choice was always the most important factor in my dislike of jobs and formal education though.
1753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: February 17, 2018, 07:24:19 PM
What update are you waiting for? I font Want any. I just want the price to be up as m holding many tokens. N I will hold till they gets double the price than that of the ico
That's how you lose all your money. Remember BitConnect? Exactly.
1754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Lisk about to explode! on: February 17, 2018, 05:41:21 PM
Looks like the rebrand has been mostly priced in already to me.
1755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: February 17, 2018, 05:37:46 PM
at time that i bouhgt cl they were .27 per coin, so they are charging like $80 flat withdraw fee, wow that is just criminal
looks like no airdrop for me lol to send 2000 CL i would be losing 300 to HITBTC fee, unbelievable

I, too, lost my CL tokens. Moreover, I did not see a warning about such a large commission in advance on the website of the HITBTC. This is robbery.
Isn't HitBTC that scam exchange?
Yes HITBTC forces to store coins on their exchange, it upsets me, and looks suspicious
What do you mean forces to store coins on their exchange?
1756  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you smoke weed? on: February 17, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
There a lot of good health claims about it but i don't see any reason to smoke it. I would rather drink alcohol than smoke weed.
Alcohol does significantly more damage than smoking cannabis ever could.

Weed is making damgae in other way, man. It's springboard in drugs world.
That's nonsense. And even if it was true (which it is proven not to be) that wouldn't matter. Not to mention the fact that just about anybody who has ever taken drugs recreationally started off by drinking alcohol.
1757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Helping with calculating taxes on crypto trading on: February 17, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
why you need to pay tax? simply do not turn to fiat and spend your coins on shopping rather then paying tax.
Be smart and do not pay tax
If you'd ever like to buy a house or some lambos with your crypto profits you should look into ways to legally minimize your tax liability.
1758  Other / Off-topic / Re: Daily Bitcoin Memes on: February 17, 2018, 05:09:16 PM
That last one's brutal. Just like crypto volatility.
1759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SONM • Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: February 17, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
I bought sonm on 16 june 2017 and keep tokens until today. if the project is developed further and finished later, the course will rise very high. but that will take a few more weeks. there are still a few super updates missing. When they finally arrive, the way up is clear and early investors will be happy
Im in the same position , SONM token is rising far far less than market itself but if they continue to give us updates I believe in it and will hodl

Wait..wait..wait. Just wait and be patient Wink SONM is a one of crypto projects that has a big potential to grow. Lets wait to a new bullish run. All crypto with a good background will start mooning.
$1.20 ATH can be expected around August when the mainnet goes live. Perhaps more, but at the very least $1.
1760  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you smoke weed? on: February 17, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
There a lot of good health claims about it but i don't see any reason to smoke it. I would rather drink alcohol than smoke weed.
Alcohol does significantly more damage than smoking cannabis ever could.
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