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Well that was long overdue...
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I don't understand... it's flying through these $200's as fast as it flew through the $20's before... my head hurts
Exponential growth. However, it's going even faster than that. Indeed, we are having a double exponential function. |
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Anyone else that has a surreal feeling? I thought I was staying cool under all of this, but today is just too much  . |
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This is insane!
For every moment that goes by, those 13BTC I lost on a buggy mobile client 2 years ago seems like a bigger deal.
Try 5000 btc to a corrupted hard drive  My 125 to the bitcoinica and mt gox current disaster are not looking too bad compared to this. I honestly feel really bad for you. I still got 40 coinz though on me, so  The dude stlll has 5000 coins, he is a fucking millionaire now, don't feel bad for him  Didn't know that, but it really doesn't matter. Still burns. I ld swap places in an instant  |
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This is insane!
For every moment that goes by, those 13BTC I lost on a buggy mobile client 2 years ago seems like a bigger deal.
Try 5000 btc to a corrupted hard drive My 125 to the bitcoinica and mt gox current disaster are not looking too bad compared to this. I honestly feel really bad for you. I still got 40 coinz though on me, so The dude stlll has 5000 coins, he is a fucking millionaire now, don't feel bad for him |
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Holy fuck guys, that action today |
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I don't think so but it wouldn't make any difference. Central banks don't make more money from average consumers' spending habits.
Huh? Why do you think I am talking about something like that? |
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sorry, but I think Voorhees has some very rational, level-headed advice. for sure he believes bitcoin is going to go astronomical, and he is devoting all his efforts in support of this belief. but he's also correct in the belief that it could easily falter. in the short term +1 What the fuck OP, you want some of the most influential people in bitcoin land to go full pumper-style on bitcoin as an investment? What happens to the people who take out student loans etc. to buy bitcoin should the price go down 15x like it did in the previous bubble/correction ? Yeah sure, anybody that held back then is now a whole lot richer, but some disillusioned people sold too. Honest to god, if I were Gavin or Erik I would be getting so fed up with having to defend yourself all the time from whatever venom some people feel they need to spit out next... I said they should keep quiet. Ok, sorry, I reacted too quickly and made an ass out of myself. |
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Hallo
Heeft er iemand wat kennis over of (en zo ja hoe) winst op verkoop van bitcoins moet aangegeven worden in Belgie?
Ik heb al gelezen dat meerwaardewinst op aandelen niet belast wordt, behalve als het 'speculatief' is. Wat dan precies 'speculatief' is, daarvoor kan ik geen duidelijke criteria vinden, maar ik vermoed dat bitcoins hier wel onder zouden vallen? Tenzij bitcoins als iets anders dan aandelen onder andere regels vallen?
Alvast bedankt voor eender welke relevante informatie.
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Looks like we're having another bear tantrum!  If that pic doesn't make you smile, I don't know what does . (well, maybe the bitcoin price  ) |
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entire post
Well said. I think you are a great spokesperson for the bitcoin community. |
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No idea how it happened but states have got damn good at pushing up to the point of revolt without ever actually crossing it these days. Now the precedent's been set they've all seen free money.
Yeah, first you do it in a small place that is 'exceptional', aimed at 'evil russian money launderers'. But every cypriot with a deposit has to pay, so there is protest. Then you change it so the small depositors don't have to pay. Much better right? Most people aren't affected, they are small savers and they live in a 'normal' country, so they don't care that much. Then, when people have somewhat gotten used to the idea of deposits getting taken, you expand the area. If it was fair in Cyprus, it's fair in other places too... All things considered, I actually don't think it is fair to put the burden on taxpayers with bailouts, but if I understand correctly, they skipped the bondholders in the bankruptcy laws, which is not cool, not the mention the fact that everybody 'in the know' gets to transfer their funds to safety before the shit hits the fan, and bank executives still get their big-ass bonusses.... |
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Why make a thread like this without a source?
I figured news like this would be all over the place fast, couldn't find a decent english source. You heard it here first guys |
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If you know dutch, belgian national television: http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/videozone/programmas/journaal/EP_130408_JO7?video=1.1598543newspaper website: http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20130408_004Google translation: The plan of Commissioner Olli Rehn to bring savers to pay for the rescue of banks is not always warmly received. SP.A Chairman Bruno Tobback talks about an "absolutely dangerous piste, and economist Paul De Grauwe, the plan 'stupid'. Minister of Finance Geens sees the plan, however, sit, like merchant organization Unizo and Banking Federation Febelfin.
SP.A Chairman Bruno Tobback finds it "absolutely dangerous slope 'to the big savers to help pay for a bank rescue. "This is contrary to the relationship between the bank and the depositor," he stated in a comment. Tobback also find it worrying that Finance Minister Koen Geens (CD & V), the idea is not unwilling.
Tobback indicates that the depositor expects the bank invests money wisely and safely. That he should pay for the mistakes of the bank, the world upside down. The recent banking crisis, according to Bruno Tobback lessons drawn. It is the role of government to banking supervision and rules to work out correctly.
Tobback finds it worrying that Finance Minister Koen Geens logical thinks big savers help with the rescue of a bank. "The Minister of Finance should provide supervision so that no accidents happen," he says.
Minister of Finance Koen Geens (CD & V) does not exclude large savers are addressed as a bank in serious trouble. For taxpayers, it is indeed "unfair" to help pay 'for wrong choices that some depositors have made. "
He finds it "not unreasonable" that the big creditors of a bank would contribute after a possible failure.
Febelfin does not comment explicitly on the measure Rehn. Who wants savings of over 100,000 euros guaranteed by Europe partly be used to finance the rescue. But the industry is pleased that work is of a uniform guideline for all of Europe. "We want to contribute to a European solution", it sounds a reaction in the Radio 1 news.
Unizo chairman Karel Van Eetvelt goes one step further. He calls the proposals 'logical'. "There is a choice between consumers themselves a part of the risk pay, either the taxpayer to pay for it there." From Eetvelt believes that both in Belgium and in Europe there is only little support.
De Grauwe
Economist Paul De Grauwe is not to speak about the European plans. "Such a measure increases the probability of a banking crisis," said De Grauwe. "When individuals and companies remove their caps at their bank, the banks are in trouble. If you go so far that you punish savers and banks as the abyss send, send on the duration of the entire economy into the abyss. "
De Grauwe calls the statements Rehn 'contradictory'. Rehn referred to the Cyprus crisis since as 'exceptional'. "If Cyprus was a special case, then you no tax on savings deposits above 100,000 euros for the whole of Europe."
De Grauwe is unlikely that Europe is so late sending by Germany, which in the case of Cyprus refused to German taxpayers to pay for the bank malaise on the island. |
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The title says it all: Olli Rehn apparently said he is considering the Cyprus template for all future bank failures in Europe (depositos above 100k euros contribute).
More fuel for the bitcoin rocket.
Didnt see another topic about this. If this is a double-post, I'll delete it.
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Ok, europe is now officially considering the Cyprus template for all bank failures in the future. Bitcoin about to get even crazier !
Anyone know when this was announced?
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