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1761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 13, 2023, 03:53:06 PM
In the next match I think Cagliari will have difficulty because their opponent is a pretty tough team even though Napoli have not had good results lately but Napoli's opponents are big clubs, namely Juventus and Inter Milan, I think in this match Napoli will win, especially since this match will Taking place at Napoli's home ground, Napoli will of course get the full 3 points.

Teams like Napoli still play well against small teams even when they are in their bad form. You can’t compare the two teams in terms of team quality, players and full football coordination in the field of play. Napoli have the advantage of winning this game on clean sheet and that is not something we can doubt about. Napoli are also playing from home which is a bigger advantage for them secure a win smoothly.
I still wonder whether Napoli will win or not, because their situation is also not good now and it is difficult to predict even with opponents who on paper are easy for them to beat, like Cagliari in this match. But in a match, excellence on paper will not always be a guarantee that they will also win, because there are other factors that sometimes change when the match is in progress. In terms of strength, I also think Napoli are favorites in this match, but the status of favorites will not necessarily make them win.
Cagliari themselves must have realized that Napoli this season are not as scary as last season. They will learn how they were defeated in the previous match.
1762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 13, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
I read if Pochettino included 7 names in the Chelsea sale market in January. If I'm not mistaken, they include Axel Disasi and Conor Gallagher. I don't know the other 5 names. But Pochettino put the names of Toney, Osimhen and Gyokeres on his January purchase list. Indeed, at the moment Pochettino does not have the players he wants and it should be immediately facilitated by management.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/13025497/chelsea-transfer-news-and-rumours-blues-set-to-put-several-players-up-for-sale
Will Chelsea again make major changes to their squad and will again spend a very large amount of money on it? and in return they will also make large sales of the players they have.
They can be said to have failed in recruiting players in the transfer market, and they have to pay dearly because the money they spent over the past 2 seasons is a fantastic amount. with the fantastic amount of money they spent, they still haven't shown the desired game.
I don't understand their movements, because they failed and they should be able to change their strategy in strengthening the squad, one of which is by regenerating for example. It's not a guarantee and it's certainly a very high risk too, but they should at least try that way.
1763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 02:49:42 PM
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It will be hard for Manchester City to repeat what they did in the Premier League last season because Kevin De Bruyne will be with the Manchester City squad for the long term and it is affecting Manchester City's performance. Liverpool is the real threat to Manchester City this season, Liverpool will want to be at the top of the Premier League till the season ends.
Kevin De Bruyne will probably be back by January next year so we shall see how that's going to change their form. Man City is still looking good despite his absence and I doubt they will drop further since they have "easy" matches for the rest of December. Their rivals like Liverpool will still have to face Man United and Arsenal so I expect Man City to close the gap or even take the lead by the end of the year.
They still performed well, but we can see the difference when they don't have an attacking creator like KDB, so I can't help but say that it affected their performance. From here we can start to see where Manchester City's weak points can then be exploited by their opponents, namely in the midfield. That way, when they can play with a full squad, the opponent will realize which point should be the part they should pay close attention to. Haaland is indeed a very sharp player, but when he is not supported by a good supply of balls coming to him, he also cannot do much as usual. So opponents will begin to strategize so that Manchester City's midfield can be suppressed.
1764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 13, 2023, 02:34:53 PM
This season we have clubs that have such appeal that the attention is centered on them. Usually we always talk about Real Madrid, Barcelona or Atletico Madrid which are the three clubs that always compete in the top flight. But this season a new club has emerged and this is even their second season in La Liga after being relegated, Girona.
No half-hearted, they are even at the top of the standings and with the composition of the players they have, obviously it is a very good achievement. Their existence in the middle of a big club is certainly a different threat than usual, and who would have thought they would be able to survive this far. For me when they can survive until the first round ends it is already something good, and hopefully they can survive until the end of the season.
1765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 13, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
Just trying to get the communities opinion based on their experience about the topic.

Personally, a a bettor, I find it very stressful when watching the game you are betting especially if it will end up a losing bet.

If we have the same experience, how do you cope up with that problem, after all, gambling should be fun but why we have this kind of feeling that we feel disappointed when our bet loses?

I am sure many will agree that watching with a bet is more fun but for me personally when I am watching my favorite team playing I love watching without a bet.That for the simple reason that when the bet goes wrong we tend to get mad and we lose the real enjoyment of watching our team playing.Yesterday I was watching a team I love to watch without betting as they did not win and I would be mad double the amount,one for not winning and one for not winning the bet.

True, especially if they bet on their favorite team then obviously it will be very fun and more adrenaline, I think for this problem it comes back to everyone's choice about whether they will watch while betting or not, but on the other hand it is better in my opinion like the way you do, because gambling is nothing more than entertainment then if you can already get entertainment from your favorite team's match that you watch why do you still put a bet at the same time? like I said above that it's a choice and also depends a bit on one's point of view on gambling, if indeed they see gambling as a place to earn then obviously I think they won't miss to put money on a match like this.

What you said is quite reasonable my friend, your action is very good by choosing to just watch and not accompanied by betting, because if your favorite team loses then obviously there will be two regrets that you experience at the same time, which is disappointed because the team loses and the second is losing betting money, that's clear, it seems like this is worth making an example and understanding.
1766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 13, 2023, 11:39:58 AM
That is why we should not come up with goals that are not recommended in gambling such as getting involved to earn, lately I see very many people who see gambling as a place to earn, I don't know what is the reason but what is certain is that they come because they are encouraged and motivated from people who managed to get a big win without them knowing how much the person has spent before managing to get such a win.

Wrong thinking and misunderstanding makes you always overreact because you are tempted by something that looks like tempting, and after that without realizing that you have entered the addiction phase where you always put greed when you win and curiosity when you lose. I think this is a really dangerous addiction cycle, there is no set time limit as long as you still carry that mindset, but what is certain is that you will continue to suffer tremendous pressure from the losses you always experience, emotions and depression are certain and I think some of these things make people desperate to commit suicide like the case described by the OP.
1767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 13, 2023, 11:15:02 AM
If we are gambling because we want luck, it will be a never ending argument on which one either we want luck or we just want to play to entertain ourselves. If we want luck, I think this the beginning of something like chasing the luck and we might end up overspending. 😅

Well for me gambling isn't all about luck because not every one are opportune to win bets so I just fell that sometimes winning bets is dependent on the kind of game that one is gambling with like there are some games that requires puzzles and calculations so if you follow the right instructions then you'll win and there are some that isn't too dependent on how you predicted it but just that you may be lucky it played without much stress being involved

Honestly, I don't understand what you said about luck, you said that not all gamblers have the opportunity to win gambling is true but it is not a matter of choosing the wrong type of game but rather refers that basically they are just unlucky in that session. So the conclusion is that in my personal opinion no matter where you play it is basically very simple that if you are unlucky then obviously you will lose even if you try some other games.

One example might be sports betting, there you can apply the skills you have to increase the percentage of luck with the understanding of the world of sports that you have but still even so the final result still refers to luck, not infrequently we see some top-class teams can be defeated by weak teams and it's all unexpected and that's what is meant by no luck. So in essence I think if you really want to gamble then gamble normally with a calm feeling and not by putting too much hope, use your feelings in choosing some games and if you do lose it means at that time you are unlucky, as simple as that.
1768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 13, 2023, 10:38:50 AM
How about you do you wrap up your sessions and how many minutes or hours and do you think it's ok to do a wrap-up?
I usually spend one to two hours gambling and that's only on weekends because I don't gamble on weekdays, so I divert all my weekday hours to the weekend, sometimes I can spend more than that sitting in front of me. my laptop to play some casino games just to wait for the football match because I also gamble on sports betting as my main gambling compared to the casino which I usually play just to accompany my free time.

But to complete a gambling game session I usually not only measure it by time but also the budget that I have limited, sometimes I still have money left in my budget so the game continues as long as I haven't reached my gambling budget limit, not everything is determined by time but also to see if I still have a budget to play, if I still have it I will still play it until it runs out
The importance of the budget we have in gambling will really help us in determining when is the right time to stop and I also apply this in my gambling. Maybe many people continue to gamble even though their budget is small and in the end they cross the line and find it difficult to stop. Unconsciously, they continue to spend money without being able to stop and this could be detrimental to themselves in the future. So here it is very important regarding the budget that we use when gambling.

Here I also only bet on football matches and sometimes if the result is a win then I will use 30% of the winnings to play slots and if in that case I lose, I don't mind because it's just for entertainment and I don't think too much about the results.

Maybe what you mean is the importance of limiting the budget we have to bet on each gambling session. It is true that the amount of the budget can really determine how long we will gamble, for example if you put a small amount then obviously your gambling session usually won't run. too long unless you are really lucky with a good spin that can increase the money in your gambling account, apart from that what is also important to be able to complete the gambling session is understanding and the limits that are applied, because on the other hand it is very possible even if you put the amount small but basically you don't have a healthy understanding of the concept of gambling which should always be able to apply limits in terms of budget and time so what will happen is that as you said they will just keep making deposits and not know when it's time to stop.

Of the many types of gambling, I think sports betting is the more effective thing to do, it's nothing because you can slightly increase your luck percentage with the skills you have in the world of sports and with that you won't suffer as many losses as usual. we find in slot games. In slots you have to be firm and alert, the results are always disappointing because the randomness in them often makes us emotional and lose control.
1769  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 13, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
I don't regret knowing about gambling. When I've had bad losses I don't blame it on others because we are all responsible for our own actions. I consider gambling a fun hobby. Certain people might have a propensity for addiction. In that case they should acknowledge when they have a problem and modify their behavior to avoid causing financial harm that can be difficult to recover from.

It looks like you have a pretty good approach in your gambling involvement, actually for the matter of regret it goes back to each gambler, especially about addressing the adverse effects they experience from the gambling they do, I think usually they will not regret or will not regret too much if they always bring limits or mean gambling in a healthy and not excessive just by putting a small budget. The key is the correct understanding of gambling itself, if from the beginning you already understand how the chances of winning and the risk of losing work then I think you shouldn't regret it because if you know everything and then get involved from there it is also certain that you have a sense of responsibility for whatever will happen, especially risks.

If you blame others for your downturn in gambling then I think it's really absurd, how can you blame others while on the other hand you yourself do everything, gambling is really nothing more than a place to seek entertainment alone that's true because the fact is the more often you try because of curiosity, the more you will lose and you will have the same fate as those who are already addicted. For you I hope you can maintain this understanding so as not to be carried away by negative currents.
1770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 12, 2023, 05:14:02 PM
The next match Bilbao will host Atletico and this will be quite a tough match for Bilbao because Atletico will try to steal points at their home ground so they can continue to maintain their position against Barcelona and I think Bilbao will lose this match later and Bilbao will also be shifted in position by Real Sociedad.
Yes, agree with that because Atletico Madrid need the full three points to keep their position in third place, that's why they will definitely try their best to win the match, Atletico Madrid's position with Barcelona has the same points, that's why Atletico Madrid must really can maintain their position there and Barcelona will certainly regain third place in the standings if Atletico Madrid fails to beat Bilbao.

After holding Madrid to a draw in the previous match, of course Bilbao is also very much taken into account, maybe it won't be easy for Atletico Madrid to beat Bilbao at home, even though many people are favorites for Atletico Madrid to win and get full points in the meeting in the next match. I also predict Atletico Madrid will steal points by winning narrowly.
Yes Atletico Bilbao are a force to be reckoned with in this mtch, they are a club full of surprises and can do anything when they are in good form. Atletico Madrid is indeed in the position of the standings above Atletico Bilbao, but that does not guarantee that the victory will necessarily be obtained by Atletico Madrid, especially in this match Atletico Bilbao will act as the host.
in their ability to score goals can also be said to be the same, but here Atletico Madrid is better in terms of defense. But with the great motivation instiled by Atletico Bilbao it will be a real threat to them.
1771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 12, 2023, 04:54:35 PM
Last season he performed very well and everyone was happy with him. Let him complete two seasons before we can say something about him being fired. He brought champions league game to old Trafford and he won manager of the month of November which means he is doing something good, but not to the expectations of the fans. Let him finish this season. January transfer window will soon be open, let him buy players and do his magic.
I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.
True, I am also someone who believes in process, but that process must also be accompanied by something that is enough to make us believe that there will indeed be improvement. What happens now is that I don't see that improvement, unlike when he first came, he seemed to build his own philosopy of the game, but it's not enough just like that, what I see now is even the same as their previous coach.
I'm not a fan of the club, but as a football fan, of course I can feel something that their supporters feel.
It's not enough to stop there, I mean the coach is not the one who is completely at fault here, because the role of management to support the needs of the coach must also be something to be considered.
1772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 12, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
Madrid is the only way for Mbappe to continue to extend his brilliant career  but that doesn't mean Mbappe has an important role for Madrid.  Now the position has reversed because since Mbappe rejected Madrid first offer everything has changed completely. Madrid can still look for other player options that are cheap and even  more suitable. Rumors  are circulating  that players  from Brazil are being targeted in  the transfermarket next season and I hope that Madrid will continue to create stability  in every line. Vinicius and Rodrygo just need to continue to develop and  for strikers it's up to Florentino Perez  to decide.
I actually prefer to say that Real Madrid is one of the paths for his career, because in this case it is not only Real Madrid that can provide a future for Mbappe, but there are other good clubs as well. But maybe it can be said that Real Madrid is the best choice for his career.

I haven't heard any more news about Perez now, usually he appears with his statement, but if he has said he wants to buy a player, then he will try to buy it even he is willing to spend deeply to realize his wishes. The news about Mbappe is still a wild ball, there is no certainty where he will go and could even stay. Unclear rumors will definitely be a seasoning when the transfer market comes, and that will definitely happen to Mbappe.
1773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 12, 2023, 04:22:51 PM
The league is almost halfway through the season and the race for the title is still very competitive. Juventus and Inter are really competing with a difference of only 2 points. I agree with you that Juventus is a team that is good at finding gaps in opponents' weaknesses. Even though Juventus' weakness here is in their strikers, this can be seen from the number of goals scored which is only 23 goals, but they can play very well with their defense so they often win with narrow scores.
The target of the Juventus team itself is to be able to win even if it is only by a narrow score, because only with that can Juventus continue to stick to the leader of the standings with a very close number of points even though there are shortcomings in terms of the number of goals. I'm still quite confident that Juventus will continue to be consistent until the end of the season because Juventus is only thinking about Serie A this season so Juventus doesn't need to put their minds on other competitions.
The main target of a club is definitely 3 points, no matter how little they score in a match the most important thing is that they can win and get 3 points. But to win, there must be goals that they can create and as much as possible they do not concede more than the number they can create against the opponent's goal.
I have a good example at the moment in Nice in LIgue 1, they have a very good defense, they just have the problem of not being able to create goals very well or in other words they are not productive. Even if they don't concede but at the same time they can't create goals, then it won't be a win for them.
Now Juventus have a number of goals that is not bad, but it cannot be said to be good either, they must be able to improve their ability to attack and create goals.
1774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 12, 2023, 04:07:45 PM
I don't think Sevilla has a chance to continue in the champions league.I don't think they can win their clash with Lens.Lens is likely to get a draw here at worst.Arsenal-PSV will be played as a bit of a formality.I expect both teams to continue in the champions league.It could be a game with a lot of goals and a draw seems likely. As for the score, the match may end with a score like 2-2 or 3-3, of course this is my prediction.A match in which both teams can enter plenty of goal positions will be waiting for us.
Sevilla will certainly not be able to continue in the Champions League, their chances now can only be in the Europa League, even then they must ensure they can win this match with any score.
But the problem is that this will be a home match for Lens, of course as the host Lens will benefit more, because they will get full support from their supporters. In the first meeting that played at Sevilla's home at that time, the match ended with a draw and they could only share points and also overall their game was balanced.
With that, it is likely that the same result will happen again in this match and if that happens then Sevilla must be eliminated and cannot continue at least to go to the European League.
1775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 12, 2023, 12:09:16 PM

In the event that you're not a fan of this, you'll be able to't afford to spend a lot of money on it, but it's not a problem because it does help at least to increase the budget of your personal money in gambling. It makes sense that usually such referrals are more widely used or utilized by stremers or influencers who certainly have followers or a large number of followers on some of their social media, and with the power of human resources like that it will allow them to get a fairly decent or even large bonus amount if 80% of followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals they share.

I think this is pretty much utilized by people who are quite famous, if you are one of them then there is nothing wrong with experimenting, because in this way the amount of money you will allocate to gambling each session may not be too large as before because obviously the bonuses you get are quite large if the scenario above really happens.
It true that the small amount of bonus you can get depends on how many followers you have, but having lots of followers doesn't guarantee it because the profit percentage is still calculated from how many people use the link shared to register and deposit money to bet.
The more people use the link and the more they deposit money to bet, the greater the bonus profits that streamer who is also an affiliate can get.
But it not easy and not everyone can do it because it requires the trust and liking of all followers towards them so that every time they share link, the link can be used more.
In reality, many fail, many cannot survive and they decide to stop being streamer or affiliate who shares referrals on various social media.

Well, that true because usually those who can use it more quickly to become or share referrals are famous people with social media accounts who already have lots of followers.
It can also be proven that nowadays many celebrities or artists are starting to do things like that to be able to have quite large additional income from referral bonuses.
Moreover, spending some money to make more profits is very pleasant thing and of course it is not loss because just by broadcasting you can get paid plus bonuses, this is clearly very profitable.

Yes, maybe what I have mentioned above is just an overall calculation if indeed most of their followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals that you have shared, the fact is that it will not always be like that either, because out of 100 people for example it is unlikely that they are all interested in gambling, we just take a few possible people for example 40 who are interested enough to get involved and this is a fairly likely scenario because there are those who are interested and there are also those who basically always avoid the world of gambling among all of them. So for the issue of bonuses from referrals even if you have a lot of followers I don't think it can be concluded that you will be able to get a lot of bonuses because we don't know about how many people are interested and who are not. And the other reason might be like you said in terms of the trust and liking of the followers to the influencer or stremers itself is enough to be a determination.

Now is the digital era, the times are modern and that means we must be able to balance ourselves with the times to survive and one of them is not only hard work but also smart work. Refferal like this can really be utilized and it depends on whether or not you can take advantage of it, on the other hand it is quite lucky for those who are already quite famous because with their investors they can take advantage of opportunities such as those in refferal.
1776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 12, 2023, 02:59:17 AM
In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

Gambling can’t be considered as a stable source for making money. Gambling is often listed as game of luck and not game of skill. Here luck plays an important role for the outcomes and not the skills. Hence if your luck is not good then you can’t make the profits. Yes there is some skill required to make a sportsbet, but still luck also plays a vital role in order to make green bet. So yes if you are gambling, then always be prepared for losses also.

That's right, there is nothing stable, stagnant and consistent in terms of results that can make them smile at the end of the session, gambling is really nothing more than an activity for profit and if you try to come with the intention and purpose of earning then you will have the same fate as addicts who always suffer from the number of defeats. Basically, there are many types of gambling, some are purely luck-based such as slot machines and some require a little skill and knowledge such as sports, I admit that but on the other hand even if you have very good skills to engage in sports betting, the final result will still refer to how lucky you are at that time, because not infrequently we see that a strong team can be defeated by a very weak team, it is a fact that is not uncommon.

That is why you may often hear some good advice regarding limits and control, none other than because it is the only thing to do and also very important for your safety in gambling involvement, but on the other hand unfortunately not many gamblers are aware of this fact, they always come with the wrong mindset and goals that even act out of control and excessive. This is gambling which means there is a chance of winning as a reward and there is also the possibility of losing due to risk, this must be understood.
1777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 12, 2023, 02:37:17 AM
Most consider referral programs to be very unprofitable and a waste of time because it will be very difficult for them to get referrals from the links they share.
While referrals themselves can earn a lot if there are also many followers. therefore many are bored with only expecting rewards from this program.

except for those who already have many channels such as social media, websites and so on to accommodate people who are interested in what we do. if they are interested, of course, they will follow us as referrals. but if there are also many referrals and bonuses, of course, don't forget about them, at least say hello or something. not just chasing them to follow and after that they are abandoned. good communication can make you find more referrals.
Very few referral bonuses are obtained so that someone does not share with others unless they have a lot of followers so that they will be able to get bonuses from the referrals they share.
If we only have a few followers, I'm sure we won't be able to get bonuses from the referrals we share. In fact, I've found that the referrals we get depend on the referrals who play and if they don't play, just taking referrals, we won't get any bonuses.

In the event that you're not a fan of this, you'll be able to't afford to spend a lot of money on it, but it's not a problem because it does help at least to increase the budget of your personal money in gambling. It makes sense that usually such referrals are more widely used or utilized by stremers or influencers who certainly have followers or a large number of followers on some of their social media, and with the power of human resources like that it will allow them to get a fairly decent or even large bonus amount if 80% of followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals they share.

I think this is pretty much utilized by people who are quite famous, if you are one of them then there is nothing wrong with experimenting, because in this way the amount of money you will allocate to gambling each session may not be too large as before because obviously the bonuses you get are quite large if the scenario above really happens.
1778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 12, 2023, 02:17:07 AM
It will not be bad if gamblers can actually wrap up their gambling for the year just as they do with business and some other things, so that they can have more money to spend on family for the holidays where they are a lot of expenses. The holiday season is regularly fun, so gambling for fun should not be an excuse to gamble unless you are already an addict to gambling. Addicted gamblers cannot stay off gambling, and this holiday season is a time where we will see many of them. Worst situation for some families, they will not be able to have a pleasant festive season because the money that should have been meant for it has been gambled away.
If they can complete their gambling well, I think they are very good at managing themselves when betting on the gambling they play and they can also enjoy the winnings they have obtained.
Yes, those who have experienced an addiction to gambling will of course not be able to stop betting and winning because they will always lose because they are always greedy in gambling. Only luck is what they can get in winning their gambling.

People who are able to finish their gambling sessions and go home not in tears I think it only happens and can be done by people who still have awareness in every gambling session they do, emotions and greed are not too significant so they are still able to apply awareness in order to keep making better judgments in all situations and conditions, It is indeed better especially if in some sessions they manage to get lucky by going home with a certain amount of winnings to enjoy, but unfortunately not many gamblers can take such an approach, on average they always act out of control because their hopes and beliefs exceed common sense and logic.

Basically, it is quite difficult if someone has entered and is trapped in the addiction zone, they will not be able to accept some good advice based on facts because they already have different beliefs from normal people in terms of gambling, even though it is wrong but they think it is right, not realizing that gambling is really a for-profit activity and none other than that because it is difficult to achieve awareness in addiction situations.
1779  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 12, 2023, 01:57:17 AM
Majority of the gamblers would say yes, because they could've lost big. What they lost could've caused them big problems or it could've made them suffer financially. Some could've entered gambling just because the person next to him could've got lucky to win big. This is completely wrong and later only understands the reality. Most could've managed to invest it somewhere else or on kept safe for the future. Now they keep on trying to recover the loss. I personally regret, because I lost valuable tokens gambling. If I had kept hold I could've got good money with me.

Quite agree with your assumption about the majority of gamblers will say yes that they regret, and one of the more likely reasons is because gambling is usually according to the fact that losses are more frequent than wins that only come occasionally, especially if they come with the aim of earning then obviously they will try more often and while on the other hand gambling is not a place to earn but no more than a place of entertainment, that is why the more often you try the more often defeat will accompany you.

Of course there are many factors that make someone get involved and get into gambling, like you said if one of their friends wins then obviously indirectly it motivates them, the question is who doesn't want money? and scenarios like that are more likely for someone to end up getting involved with the aim of getting the same win. Choosing to invest and save it for the future is great but that's only for those who have never touched gambling at all, because obviously if you have the power in terms of money and on the other hand you know about gambling or have even been involved then I'm sure the first thing on your mind is to put the money on the line. Basically, regret will always come at the end, I hope you take this bitter experience as a valuable lesson.
1780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: December 11, 2023, 04:16:54 PM
Gambling knows no age, both young and old, if they still have healthy health and stable finances then everyone can gamble at any time. So there is no ideal number for retiring from gambling, especially if they still have a healthy memory and gambling is still entertainment for them, of course retirement is not an option.
And most of the people when they get older, they've got more freedom and more money and that's true which gives no boundary that anyone can still gamble at an old age.

"More money", I don't think it will always be like that, everyone especially the elderly will not always be able to have a situation with the financial level of the upper hand, maybe your idea is more referring to those who have a financially free situation for the contributions and hard work they have done in their youth so that it can make them reach the point of financial success and become rich people in old age by just enjoying the results of their struggles, not most but maybe only a few who have pretty good finances in old age. For the time issue yes I agree with you that old age is the age of freedom, just a little busy from work due to lack of strength due to age. Basically, involvement in gambling is a choice, it is true that there are no rules about when they should stop whether young or old, what is certain is that if they have money then they can gamble and if gambling does not have a bad impact on their life then please do it, there are no restrictions because this is a choice for each individual.

But this depends on the person too. There are also some of those who are old and have grandchildren, sometimes they want to spend their old age with their family, so retiring from gambling is the wisest choice. To be honest, in my area, parents very rarely gamble openly, this is because they feel ashamed that they are still gambling at their old age. This is also influenced by the culture where parents gambling is a disgrace to the family.
If the person have experienced much with gambling and he'd always ending up with losses, he had enough already and much better to have a wiser choice to retire.

But again, we go back to what you've said and combined the two of it. Anyone is free to retire whenever they think there's a valid reason and the same goes for continuing and there's no retirement age on it as long he can avail to take losses.

Actually there are still quite a lot of other alternatives that they can choose to enjoy their old age, especially if gambling activities only interfere with their lives in the sense of experiencing financial problems due to defeats that always dominate, if you are in such conditions then obviously there is no other choice but to retire and look for other activities that are also fun but not risky. Yes, that's right, it's really just a matter of choice, basically it's about whether they can bear the risk or not, if they can then please continue anyway you also feel all the good and bad effects.
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