Yes, but if the difficulty increases every two weeks, then wouldn't people with AMD cards hit a wall eventually too?
Hmm. This Bitcoin thing sounds like US Treasury bonds - yields keep going down and down...
I pay roughly twelve cents per kilowatt hour.
Yes, AMD cards will hit a wall too. But right now AMD is the most efficient hardware to mine, so everybody will hit the wall and it will get to some kind of equilbrium where the people with the higher electricity rates are priced out of the market and the more efficient stay but with very low rates (obviously if new hardware is discovered then situation changes). And you can imagine that Nvidia being so inefficient will be priced out quickly even with very cheap electiricty rates. Maybe they are alredy priced out, I have not made the math. |
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Looking forward to working with everyone whos interested in this project. Don't be scared. And if your not into the porn industry, don't worry about it. Let us handle that. This environment will be very clean, and professional, and I will not ask any of the people working on this to participate in the porn related promos/scouting/ or anything to do with sex. Just had to get that out of the way 1st and foremost.  What? That looks like the best part of the project!  Seriously, I think this has a great potential. I am a programmer but not a web programmer. If I was I would love to join your team. |
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The problem with Nvidia is that you might end up paying more for the electricity they consume that what you get worth of bitcoins. You will have to do the math, use a bitcoin generation calculator, but keep in mind that the difficulty goes up every 10-14 days.
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Im using this http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6662 . It has 8 pci-e connectors, 1000W and is powering 4 OC 5870 with ease (a total of 805W). It has an efficiency of 90-92% (which is an important factor if you are going to run it 24/7). Its very quiet too, but this is not important in this case with the 4 cards making a lot of noise. Worth the money. |
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I just read that the new version of the linux Catalyst drivers, the 1.6, lets you overdrive the cards over the bios limits. I dont know if they are included already in Linuxcoin, but if they are not it would be a nice addition since it removes the need to flash the bios of the cards. EDIT: For reference: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19776.msg258398#msg258398Thanks for the info A risky one !! Most if the hardware testing had been done with 11.4 I'm testing 11.6 as we speak  if I think it's stable enough I'll add it as an option via the package manager. I dont know if you are done with this, but it seems to be a false rumor. I just tested it in my XFX and the 11.6 drivers do NOT allow me to go beyond the bios limits. |
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Catalyst 11.6 in Linux allows you to bypass the BIOS limits now. 11.5 didn't. Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Core (MHz) Memory (MHz)
Current Clocks : 975 300
Current Peak : 975 300
Configurable Peak Range : [600-875] [900-1200]
GPU load : 99% I've tested it on both Sapphire and Gigabyte 5830 cards. Cheers, Kermee I just installed Catalyst 11.6 on Linux (Ubuntu 11.04) and my XFX is still limited by BIOS settings. 11.6 does NOT allow me to go beyond bios settings.Ok, I stand corrected. It does work. |
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@ $397 it's $49.63 per slot. GA-990FXA-UD7 is at $250 and has 6 slots which works out to $41.67 per slot... Hmmmm.... very tempting!!! You can get the GA-890FXA-UD5 that is way cheaper and has 4 long pci-e slots and 2 pci-e x1 slots. Since you are going to have to buy adapters anyway, it does not matter if they have to be x16 to x16 or x1 to x16, and the card is way cheaper. |
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The difference is Keynes emphasis on distribution and consumption of wealth, versus those that emphasize saving and investment. Keynes seems to be more interested in how income flows around the economy, even through make-work projects that everyone gets to wet their beak in. You'll probably disagree with that if you beleive that spending should not take place unless it is efficient and profitable. One could see this as a matter of paying as few people as little as possible for as much work as possible. But that may undermine the ability of people to buy the stuff you've invested in making. In the Depression the income stopped flowing, seems this affected Keynes thinking. This make absolutely no sense, as I have tried to explain to you. You need to go deeper into keynesian though to understand its flaws. You just took a quick course and took it as faith and that is a problem. Even in the case that you are paying people less, you are also producing cheaper, thus the level of consumption of the people does not get affected. In reality what happens is that because prices are somehow more sticky than other prices, the prices of the goods go down quicker than the wages, thus benefiting the poor people. Keynesianism is the contrary. Krugman sounds like a dick, the bail-outs have not circulated through the economy in any way I would describe as Keynesian, welfare for the banks is all it was. Would have been more Keynesian to just hand the money directly to households. I understand that some of the money made its way to local government spending (building roads and so on) but mostly in a retarded kind of way. But covering the banks asses so they can sit on it and not lend it out into the economy isn't Keynsian in my opinion, and that's not even assuming Keynsianism is a good thing. But this is another problem of keynesianism: not taking into account how the political system works. You can not give power to the government and then when the political system does not act exactly as you have prescribed complain. Politicians have their own self-interest, and if you give them power they will use it, not necesarely how you have prescribed. Maybe the only realistic solution is for the politicians to not have so much power. |
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Not true. The phatk kernel is optimized for the 2.4 SDK. I get better results with phatk + 2.4 than with any other combination. |
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Ya tiene credibilidad. El problema es que la mayoría de las persona tienen que dormir, madurar, el concepto varios dias, meses, para entender porque esto es revolucionario y positivo.
Pues claro que tiene crediblidad. Pero que salga en un diario económico y en buena luz pues ayudará sin duda. Puede ayudar mucho en el mundo hispanohablante, ojalá sea en buena luz, últimamente ha habido muchas "calamidades" y los periodistas tienden a ser muy sensacionalistas. A ver que tal... Te aseguro que será en buena luz |
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Thanks for the info A risky one !! Most if the hardware testing had been done with 11.4 I'm testing 11.6 as we speak if I think it's stable enough I'll add it as an option via the package manager. Yeah, I know drivers are always an issue. If it was just a normal update I would not ask for it, but I think not having to flash your cards is worth it. This was actually the only thing that was missing in Linux for mining. Now you can use AMDOverdriveCtrl without stupid limits. Well, one thing is missing in Linux and its being able to read the current and the temperature of the VCC's. RadeonVolt does it, but only for some 5850's. I wish there was a way to do it for 5870's. |
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I see. I wonder how people will adapt to accepting .002 as something valuable when we are currently used to paying 1.00 or 100.00 for something.
I agree with the idea of breaking the coin down, but will the common folk accept .000025 for a t-shirt one day.
They wont accept 0.000025BTC for a t-shirt, they will accept 25 uBTC (microBTC). Sounds much cooler, doesnt it? |
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I completely agree with you, but this will only be posible when the bitcoin exchange price stabilizes a bit.
The stabilization might be happening already, who knows. After the rise up to $30 and the correction back to $20, we might see some stabilization of the price, although we dont know yet because all the last events have been moving the price. When the air clears will see.
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A banner for the signatures would be great. I would put in mine.
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Just a thought experiment. My understanding is that every bitcoin can be tracked back through the list of all accounts it has been in up to the transaction that generated it. Sure there are online mixers where you can exchange bitcoins - but what if the government would not care how many hops the bitcoins go through and instead declared that if they ever were in some bitcoin account (like Silk Road sellers account or Wikileaks account) - then they are illegal. Sure maybe most users would not care where their bitcoins come from - but many would start checking the origin of theirs.
Its possible but: 1. The USA government is not the government of the world. 2. It would be really hard to make people check the bitcoins they get. It would be basically unenforceable. |
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I just read that the new version of the linux Catalyst drivers, the 1.6, lets you overdrive the cards over the bios limits. I dont know if they are included already in Linuxcoin, but if they are not it would be a nice addition since it removes the need to flash the bios of the cards. EDIT: For reference: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19776.msg258398#msg258398 |
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well, 6 of these are from btcguild at 2.3Thash/s, so they were very lucky.
Yeah, BTCGuild got very lucky. But we were coming from a very unlucky rally, so its only fair. |
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