Yes, I remember. I think a lot of people listen to your advice, but either don't write here/give credit back.
It seems that the bulls were the scammers after all.
I dont know about scammers, they just deluded themselves into believing these price spikes were naturally occuring and not the product of manipulation by mt gox and other exchsnges. They will keep calling bears stupid while they hold and tell themselves they are the "stronger hands" And if GOX, an exchange that was the largest and trusted by many was capable of this, who knows how many others are just shaking the market like an apple tree. After all 90% of bitcoins is owned by less than the number of fingers and toes we have. I know. Just think what will happen when the next exchange goes down ( maybe btc-e) which is notoriously shady?? Looks like we are headed nowhere but down. |
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show a chart.
 There you go. The evidence is irrefutable. The "upward trend line" still factors in mt gox price manipulation. Take that out and btc is headed back down to where it was before last falls bubble: $100-200 at most and will probably stay there for the near future |
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Most people here have deluded themselves into thinking btc is going to skyrocket sue to "imminent mass adoption!" Clearly this is not the case, and lots of former bulls are now facing the facts and turning bearish. One of the ways people tell themselves they are right is saying anyone who sells is a "weak hand." Funny because you should be calling them "smart hands."
I'll admit I had high hopes for btc, but the last bubble has no reason to repeat itself: There's no new money coming in from anywhere in the world, adoption by merchants just essentially creates lots of sell pressure, and the media is doing its job scaring people away from btc by associating it with illegal activity.
Good luck to holders though.
So is your suggestion to sell all the bitcoin now ? I think this is not the real solution  . The price will raise ( I think) in the next block reward halving ( 2016) . 2016. 2016. 2016. We're in 2014. Everyone will have plenty of time to buy back in before 2016, so why mindlessly hodl while Bitcoin is crashing? I love cryptocurrencies. I think they will succeed big time. Decentralized digital currency is here to stay. However, we're currently in the midst of a crash. People who convert to fiat will be able to buy back more bitcoin during the next rise, whenever that rise happens. As someone who is looking to maximize the number of bitcoins I own, the last thing I would be doing right now is hodling. In fact, I'm shorting, so that when bitcoin rises again, I can not only buy more coins because they're cheaper, but also buy more coins because I have more money. I agree. I think the technology behind btc is incredible, but the price right now is showing that it was just manipulated to the ath last winter. Still no demand for it, and definitely no "imminent mass adoption" any time soon. Yes the mainstream media may unfairly connect btc with drug trade, isis (clearly anti btc propaganda), etc, but its scaring off people and giving btc a bad rep. Oh well, I think those saying btc will drop to the 100-200 level and trade in that level for quite somr time are right |
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You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.
Really how so sure? What price did I buy? "Weak Hands" are looking like "Smart Hands" each day that passes the way things are going. By the way the "Calling the bottom at 350" threads are now outdated, lets get some more "Calling the bottom at 300" threads going until Monday. Thank you. Clearly the amount of price manipulation dine by mt gox has still not been priced in. I think prices will continue to sink diwn to around $200 or more by the end of the year. There is just absolutely no demand for btc at all. Only in the minds of the bulls in this forum. I dont think overall usage is up either. Yes more wallets are in existance, but coinbase creates a new ine for you like every week or so automatically. Using the "more wallets in existance" is a very bad way to track usage. I think all the new metchanys have done is get some holders to spend some btc, while not managing ti attract any new interest by the general public |
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Yes, I remember. I think a lot of people listen to your advice, but either don't write here/give credit back.
It seems that the bulls were the scammers after all.
I dont know about scammers, they just deluded themselves into believing these price spikes were naturally occuring and not the product of manipulation by mt gox and other exchsnges. They will keep calling bears stupid while they hold and tell themselves they are the "stronger hands" |
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Actually anyone with half a brain would know not to start taking off when a cop pulls up directly in front of them. Anyone with an iq above 50 would know you dont stick ypur hands down ypur pants and pull them out quickly when a cop has a gun aimed at ypur chest 5 feet away. I guess you dont fall into either of those categories.
If he didnt take his hands out he could have lived through that. Just a good lesson why you dont screw around with a cop. Honestly im not trying to defend the cop, but you throwing around the term "murder" shows how ignorant you really are.
Murder is the unjustified taking of a life, which sounds much closer to the circumstances of this case than not. Victim-blaming here is a frequent tactic for someone defending police brutality. 'Anyone with a brain knows not to disobey a cop when he gives you an unjustified order because of racial prejudices.' That's unreasonable. As a free citizen in a free country, you have a right not to be murdered by police. Or subjected to unreasonable searches or orders. Police are granted the power to use force when it is warranted with the expectation they are qualified enough to know when it is warranted. This cop did not. Being a police officer involves known self-sacrifice, in that you are agreeing to put yourself in potentially dangerous situations. That is not an excuse or a justification to be trigger-happy. You still have a duty not to be, and you are still answerable to the public for your actions when you are. If you can't handle that responsibility, DON'T BE A COP. A dictionary would benefit you guys: Murder: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (straight from Merriam-Webster) Like I said, murder is premeditated. Again I'm not defending him, but you cant call it murder becasue that is completely 100% not accurate. To say the cop should have waited a fraction of a second more is to say you think cops should wait to get shot before shooting. I doubt they are trained to do that. When you deal with criminals every day, what do you think he expects when soeone reaches their hands down their pants? Honestly, next time you get pulled over, would you even think about sticking your hands down your pants and pulling them out quickly?  ?? Especially if the cops gun was already drawn? ? Come on! |
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Another innocent person murdered simply because he had his hands in his pocket.
All it takes is for you to have your hands in your pocket and if you don't respond to the officer within 2-3 seconds they will kill you.
And they will get away with it.
This country holds cops to the same standard as trained monkeys, apparently.
are you kidding? he wasn't just walking with his hands in his pockets. he put them into his pockets, turned around and took them out. cops need to think in a split second, or he could have been dead, and potentially others that were in that parking lot. yes its unfortunate, but put yourself in that situation. I'm sure hes seen 100 other situations like that where someone DID have a gun in their belt. Dont say you wouldnt have done the same thing. Bullshit. The cop coulda waited half a second to see if there was a gun in his hand or not. Blindly MURDERING the kid for NO REASON was completely unnecessary. He had headphones in, he couldn't clearly hear the officers. So now turning around to face an officer when you just realized they were talking to you and then taking your hands out of your pockets so you can talk to them warrants a death sentence? Haha... God Bless America. The copper should be in jail or at-least barred from ever being a cop again. a split second would have been too long. the kid saw the cop pull up, and decided to play games. yes its sad, but he acted stupidly to try to play games with a cop. I don't think he was playing games. He was walking away with headphones in, unaware of what was happening. Then he turns around and sees a gun in his face.. probably not sure how to react. Then a second later he is dead. Clearly the cop over-reacted and there should be consequences for the cop, otherwise it sends a message that they can get away with murder whenever they want. thats hardly murder, clearly it was not premeditated. I'm not saying this kid deserved being shot, but he saw the car pull up, and decided to run off. and anyone with half a brain knows you dont try to do jumpy stupid things like stick your hands down your pants when a cop is trying to talk to you. its sad, yes, but not murder anyone with half a brain knows the difference between "running off" and "walking casually" away still. It is murder. They are supposedly trained to make those split second decisions and see a weapon. Not just shoot because the person did what they were told to do. So if they didn't take their hands out of their pockets than what? Actually anyone with half a brain would know not to start taking off when a cop pulls up directly in front of them. Anyone with an iq above 50 would know you dont stick ypur hands down ypur pants and pull them out quickly when a cop has a gun aimed at ypur chest 5 feet away. I guess you dont fall into either of those categories. If he didnt take his hands out he could have lived through that. Just a good lesson why you dont screw around with a cop. Honestly im not trying to defend the cop, but you throwing around the term "murder" shows how ignorant you really are. |
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Just please don't off yourself when BTC skyrockets in 2016 okay. I'll save 1 milibtc just for you.
haha, holders are getting more ridiculous by the day: "yeah we're only 3 months out from the next spike, no 6 months, no 2 years just wait!" |
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make me an offer, would also trade for silver bullion (eagles, maples, etc)
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Wallet creation means nothing, I've created hundreds of wallets, and I just played with bitcoin for a bit as a small time interest. People can make as many as they want, and routinely do for security principles.
variation over time obviously means *something* ATMs, circle etc at least are a necessary part of infrastructure should anybody ever decide to use Bitcoin. A reduction in barriers to entry. The only true fundamental that matters is the fact that bitcoin does not solve any problems for average people.
in the 1990s, the www did nothing for average people either. I could list problems it solves and opportunities it creates, but it's boring doing that for the hundredth time. You would be correct in saying they do not all exist *yet*. But I'm betting with my wallet that they will within a few years. but the internet solved a problem of information availability that was not currently being solved. BTC doesn't solve a problem, just makes certain monetary transactions slightly easier (once you know what your doing). I really dont think the comparison between the early internet and btc right now are valid. BTC is not doing something new and different like the internet was doing. I mean heck even walmart allows walmart to walmart money transfers now! |
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they are losing money if they are holding btc.
You only lose when you sell for less than you paid. Nobody has ever lost money by holding. Please stop with this already. It's an unrealized loss, which doesn't make it any less real. Like I said in the op, people defending holding are delusional. Yes your losses this year are real, but good luck if you are continuing to "strong handedly" take your losses  |
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Wrong section. Or are you asshole just posting in Speculation to gain more attention like a dumb facebook attention crackwhore?
"you can't handle the truth!!!!!!!" |
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Most people here have deluded themselves into thinking btc is going to skyrocket sue to "imminent mass adoption!" Clearly this is not the case, and lots of former bulls are now facing the facts and turning bearish. One of the ways people tell themselves they are right is saying anyone who sells is a "weak hand." Funny because you should be calling them "smart hands."
I'll admit I had high hopes for btc, but the last bubble has no reason to repeat itself: There's no new money coming in from anywhere in the world, adoption by merchants just essentially creates lots of sell pressure, and the media is doing its job scaring people away from btc by associating it with illegal activity.
Good luck to holders though.
So is your suggestion to sell all the bitcoin now ? I think this is not the real solution . The price will raise ( I think) in the next block reward halving ( 2016 ) . I'm not trying to give anyone trading advice, but people here seem to think calling others "weak hands" somehow makes it ok that they are losing money if they are holding btc. Obviously it has potential to rise, but there is no logical reason it would be soon. |
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love it but no enough BTC to buy  I can accept paypal/ Western Union too. This is the last day if anyone wants it if you cant return it or have to sell let me know, my offer still stands. |
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Most people here have deluded themselves into thinking btc is going to skyrocket sue to "imminent mass adoption!" Clearly this is not the case, and lots of former bulls are now facing the facts and turning bearish. One of the ways people tell themselves they are right is saying anyone who sells is a "weak hand." Funny because you should be calling them "smart hands."
I'll admit I had high hopes for btc, but the last bubble has no reason to repeat itself: There's no new money coming in from anywhere in the world, adoption by merchants just essentially creates lots of sell pressure, and the media is doing its job scaring people away from btc by associating it with illegal activity.
Also, what happens if another exchange (maybe btc-e??) goes down. BTC couldnt handle that.
Good luck to holders though.
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YES
No need for btc, only in the minds of 99% of people in this forum...I mean yeah its a cheap way to send money, but other than that there is no buyer protection, its hard to get and too hard to use for your average joe. the only way it will go up is random whale activity.
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Wobber, how about you show me the TA that signaled the Nov 13' runup.
anyone claiming to use TA with btc is lying. its too easily manipulated. this past year has proven it. the only way to get in on price movement is to have a tip off from a whale. this is shown by the 3-4 hour price plunges, followed by quick price recovery. there is also not a long enough history to support any TA at all |
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No I think you 100% missed my point. I don't care at all if you or anyone else on here get screwed over by this guy, and I don't really care that I did. It was a small amount of btc, and then I looked into why these were being offered at such a "good deal."
I 1,000,000% x infinity understand your point and your point is taken. MY POINT is YOU MADE YOUR POINT. ENOUGH ALREADY!. If Sophia doesn't want to sell "for me" <sic> that's fine. ok, I just know what its like to get ripped off. I once was scammed on eBay, and although I got my money back, it was tied up for months and I didn’t know what paypal would decide to do. Now when I see scammers I cant stand that people are ok with stealing directly from other peoples credit cards. Someone is paying the price somewhere. |
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I think the only people that can the de beers people  Otherwise like many people said diamonds worth nothing. Its still great that you can sell it back to someone . People usually buy it directly from diamond sellers , not second hand hence there is no second market diamon ring market , and the one that exist is so tiny it doesnt compare to retail. If I were you I would face the fact that It worths about nothing and go to place you bought and sell it back to them for fracture of its price and be done with it for 2 reasons , 1- you will not get a good price anyway , 2- get rid of it so you would not remember what it was for. unfortunately used jewelery is worse than new cars in terms of immediate depreciation. The second it leaves the jewelery store, it loses most of its value. Good luck with your sale. |
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Another innocent person murdered simply because he had his hands in his pocket.
All it takes is for you to have your hands in your pocket and if you don't respond to the officer within 2-3 seconds they will kill you.
And they will get away with it.
This country holds cops to the same standard as trained monkeys, apparently.
are you kidding? he wasn't just walking with his hands in his pockets. he put them into his pockets, turned around and took them out. cops need to think in a split second, or he could have been dead, and potentially others that were in that parking lot. yes its unfortunate, but put yourself in that situation. I'm sure hes seen 100 other situations like that where someone DID have a gun in their belt. Dont say you wouldnt have done the same thing. Bullshit. The cop coulda waited half a second to see if there was a gun in his hand or not. Blindly MURDERING the kid for NO REASON was completely unnecessary. He had headphones in, he couldn't clearly hear the officers. So now turning around to face an officer when you just realized they were talking to you and then taking your hands out of your pockets so you can talk to them warrants a death sentence? Haha... God Bless America. The copper should be in jail or at-least barred from ever being a cop again. a split second would have been too long. the kid saw the cop pull up, and decided to play games. yes its sad, but he acted stupidly to try to play games with a cop. I don't think he was playing games. He was walking away with headphones in, unaware of what was happening. Then he turns around and sees a gun in his face.. probably not sure how to react. Then a second later he is dead. Clearly the cop over-reacted and there should be consequences for the cop, otherwise it sends a message that they can get away with murder whenever they want. thats hardly murder, clearly it was not premeditated. I'm not saying this kid deserved being shot, but he saw the car pull up, and decided to run off. and anyone with half a brain knows you dont try to do jumpy stupid things like stick your hands down your pants when a cop is trying to talk to you. its sad, yes, but not murder |
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