This sounds fun and interesting. However, I was wondering, is there a way to check your clam balance (or the balance you are 'entitled' to)  without importing your wallet.dat first?

Maar die zakelijke tarieven zijn ex btw, energiebelasting e.d.

Beste yelloyello. Ik denk niet dat het van een groupbuy gaat komen, aangezien deze thread al meer dan een maand oud is, en er verder niet echt positieve reacties waren

Everyone can decide for themselves whether they want to trade everything in or not. That's the beauty of cryptocurrencies, no one can decide to pull the plug. As long as someone is mining, they coin will keep working.

Also, don't forget there are quite a few people who already supported PMC in the past. By donating to the multipool, making scritps etc. to distribute transaction fees, getting it on Poloniex in the first place, getting shops to accept it, even a charity is accepting it.

Without these people PMC would have been forgotten a long time ago, and reviving would have been pointless anyway.

Tsjah, ik heb zo'n € 500,- betaald, en er moet nog zo'n € 1200,- betaald worden. Dan zou je dus voor € 1700,- een 18MH/s scrypt miner hebben, plus nog 40MH/s cloudmining. Op zich geen slechte deal als je het vergelijkt met de huidige miners. Hoe de stand van zaken precies is op het moment van leveren weet natuurlijk niemand.

Ik ga even bedenken wat ik ga doen. Als mensen een ander bod willen doen mag dat uiteraard.

Geen interesse?

So, I was away for a day, and lots of activity here That's a good start at least!

I think I agree that PMC does not seem to bee attractive enough to keep mining/trading/using, so it would be better to create or transform PMC to a new PMC+. I don't mind using an entirely new blockchain, since that probably is by far the easiest.

We could do the swap in two ways I think:

- Ask poloniex to take care of the swap. I know Tristan did so at least for Coin2. He converted all old chain coins to new chain coins.
- Use the Androidstoken way. I saw Zackclark replying here a few times. The ADT to ADT2 move was quite nice. You had to send your coins to a specific address, with a comment containing your new chain address. Then you would automatically get new coins on your new address. Zackclark, maybe you could tell us whether this would be an option for PMC too?

What I think is important, whatever way we choose, is that there is a swapover time of at least 2 weeks. There have been coins with 24hour or 48hour swap-overs, which is just ridiculous. However, I don't think a timeframe of multiple months would be a good thing either. Multiple months is a long time in crypto, and there needs to be some certainty. For example, if only half of the current coins is being swapped, we need to know at some point what the total amount of coins in circulation will be, and 6 months is just way too long.

Another way to approach this could be like this:
- 1.000.000 coins created
- In initial phase people can register for new giveaway, but only people who swap over will get coins with some 'interest rate' (25% extra or so?). This would mean that a maximum of 625k coins will be given to 'old' PMC holders.
- After initial phase, a lot of the remaining coins are given away to new stakeholders (who registered during initial phase). There should be a maximum per person, and there should be some left for POS rewards.


So, to conclude, I think a brand new POS chain is the way to go. We still need to work out how to do the swapover however.

What alternative do you suggest?

In the current situation mining is costing a lot of money, and not giving anything in return. Even with obligatory transactions fees it would be like that, since there are only a few transactions.

Hey,

Ik heb een Alpha-t 18Mh/s viper in de aanbieding. Het is een vroege preorder, ik heb besteld op 4 januari.

Omdat ik een Batch 1 order heb, horen daar de volgende extras bij:


Ik heb het eerste deel (30%) betaald, de overige 70% moet binnen 2 weken betaald worden.

Ik zou zeggen bied maar, ik wil er wel in ieder geval voor terug hebben wat ik aan preorderen kwijt was. Eventueel heb ik ook interesse in inruil van andere Scrypt Asics (mag hosted zijn, zolang je ze maar kan transferren naar mijn account).

Exactly! I send a ticket with the request to keep PMC to poloniex as well, I hope it helps.

And... I just ordered a hosted Gawminer Fury. It is only 1 mh/s, but I am curious to try it. Once delivered I will point it to hashcows (if poloniex keeps PMC up). If you still want to order one as well, if you follow this referral link, you should get $20 off a $200 purchase, and I will get some points (which I can spend at their shop again).

Ik heb nog wel een jalapeno 10gh/s als je interesse hebt.

I still haven't really figured it out, but afaik they are still bound by UK/EU consumer law. This means that they are at least forced to give you the full 100% refund if they do not deliver within 30 days of the delivery date as stated when ordered. Also, since it is an internet purchase, you are allowed to send it back within 7 days from the moment you received it without any particular reason and receive a full refund. I would have to look at the specific case, but I don't think they are allowed by law to charge a for cancelling the order.

Fiaz said just under a month, so let's say 3 weeks. So I wouldn't expect it to be completed within at least another 3 weeks. Then we are halfway june already. And then they want to assemble and ship all devices in 2 weeks?

Fiaz, please at least show us pictures of the factory where your chips are produced. Show us pictures of your assembly line (you will need a huge one to complete assembly and shipping in 2 weeks). Show us some real pictures of the cases, or of the prototypes. I haven't seen any of these. All manufacturers are trying to show as much as they can, and you are doing completely the opposite.

@kbroadfoot: since you are apparently the new dev, could you maybe try to persuade poloniex to cancel the delisting?

I think that's a good idea, since the original dev doesn't seem to be able to do it at the moment.

I think POS is a good idea, since it will help PMC a lot, and make it a lot less expensive to keep up the network. Sadly I am not able to dev as well.

Yeah, the whole reason why I liked the 30/70 payment split was so that we, as customers, would bear less of the risk. This way we are still bearing the full 100% of the risk, since you still have no proof of a working device.

I am sorry to say so, but it was just proven that it is fairly easy to 51% a POS coin. It happened to Coin2 (NC2). Apparently you only need 51% of the coins staking at that exact moment, which is far less than 51% of the total supply! It is still good for the power consumption though.

Also, if any of you wants to support PMC but does not have any miners themselves, consider renting some rigs at a site like betarigs, and point them to the hashcows pool with PMC payout.

I got my email requesting the rest of the payment as well. I am really doubting whether I will make the payment or not. I think Alpha should first give us some more information:

- I have only seen some FPGA samples up to now. No proof of a working asic chip whatsoever. Come with some prototype videos of a HASHING device. A video/pictures of your manufacturing location would be nice as well.
- I want more details on the cloud hashing. As it stands now ~2340usd for 18mh/s (130usd/mh) is a decent deal when shipped NOW, in july it is probably about 10x to expensive. How much cloud hashing will we receive, what are your guarantees etc. You say that the reason of cloud hashing is to match competitors. Does this mean you will match ANY competitor shipping at the moment you do as well by adding free cloud hashing? And, if so, will we get the free hashing for 1 week, 1 month, a year? You really need to be more detailed.

Dan de videokaart. Een krachtige videokaart is het best voor minen met een pc. Maar zoals al gezegd is dit niet rendabel, en zijn laptops hier niet voor gemaakt, dus grote kans dat hij het sneller begeeft.