Updated, thanks. What is in the torrent? Source only, Windows binaries, other binaries, all binaries + sources, other? |
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That, and people will pick their own favorite wallet anyway. Bitcoin has Electrum, Multibit, blockchain.info, etc. We have Lightwallet, .NET wallet, MyMonero, and maybe some others I'm forgetting. Qt GUI. Wallet Official Graphical Binaries Notes
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simplewallet ✔ ✘ ✔ (d/l) ✔ (d/l) ✔ (d/l) ✔ (d/l) source
Monero Client .NET ✘ ✔ ✔ (d/l) ✘ ✘ ✘ full node or remote node
Qt GUI ✘ ✔ ✘ ✘ ✘ ✘ source. Full node only
lightWallet ✘ ✔ ✔ (d/l) ✘ ✘ ✘ source. Full node or remote node. Torrent with binaries + blockchain
mymonero.com ✘ ✔ ✔ ✔ ✔ ✔ author is a core dev
CryptoNoteWallet ✘ ✔ ✘ ✘ ✘ ✘So, let this be the official announcement that the price of monero will now start rising. I understand "official" here as a figure of speech because: - Monero Core Team did not decide on making this official
- No MEW vote had been proposed on this matter
- I do not see any other Monero body that could emit such a statement
I'm sure trollers will delight to reuse this announcement. The core team and the community as a whole pride itself in not succumbing to the price drama - I'd like it to continue that way. |
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If you lost your password, send me an email, I'll proceed to a rough verification (ask to David  ). I confirm. And the recovery process was secure too. A list of all the stuff I'm going to implement: [...] Already implemented: Like! I like the point system and level. Can't wait to see how it unfold (I don't plan to bet because my last bet was a massive success and I want to leave at the top of the game, so I'll probably only get points by donating to faucet). OK to invest now? I hope you invested back at least 12 hours ago: I just got +50% profit today Also, the record I noticed: 38 players online. Bobbax, could you add a chart of players online (with ATH)?  Update #1: 1. don't bet or chat until you claim some points, otherwise you would not get any - happened to me, although I don't care  2. sending 0.9 XMR to faucet gives 0.00864243 points Update #2:  - Five ways to get coins: betting, faucet, investing, buying (out of CCD), swapping (not implemented yet) - Five ways to get points: betting, faucet, investing, donating (main difference with coins), swapping (maybe and not implemented yet) - Leveraging your investment shall not count for calculating level (and it doesn't, as I could check) - There is a small delay in level calculation when you get more points or invest/divest, as you can see on my antepenultimate post on the chat above |
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[Bitshares] *Its not a coin, its a platform for commodities. So is NXT (well a bit more but not a coin neither). NXT is the TCP/IP of what is done with it: assets (NXT altcoins, quite simply, although some like NXTP and MMNXT give dividends), subcoins (monetary system, sort of RAD for new coins) and other features. NXT is compost for something on top of it. |
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do not reïnvest to much, reïnvest an amount so even if they go offline for good u still have a profit This is what veteran ponzi users do. So they stay positive and join next ponzi and promote it. And it continues and people get burnt. Some willingly (they knew the risks) other not (newcomers). Much like with pump and dump. Note that both ponzi and pump-and-dump are illegal - there must be a reason. Btw: blockchain is transparent so everyone can now you participated into a ponzi - it just requires some forensics, but nothing difficult. Just saying.. |
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İs it true? do you have any proof? Did you even bother following the link ?  As for the litecoin claim, I could not find the link on litecointalk, but I did not search much.[/list] |
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Question for freeloader (level 1 players, who don't pay): what is the maximum you made out of it? I saw someone making 0.007 BTC (700K satoshi). Anyone did better? Because this is a lot of work for 1 euro... (even with bots).
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Can anyone tell me how many times I would have to click (if it was full) on level 2 to ROI by lifetime? I think its 57 minutes until it fills, and how many times per day do I have to click.
RTFS (read this fucking spreadhseet) |
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i think level 1 should have a coast..
it will be 0,0001 satoshi maybe
maybe system will be better ..
Yes, 0,0001 would work, with 1 satoshi per minute (instead of every 2 minutes) and double the capacity compared to my calculations. But getting 10000 sat from faucets would be very long, I think. 60 satoshi's an hour ? You realise plenty of other faucets offer WAYYYYY more than that right? Freebitco.in is over 800 an hour atm Anything above it and you and you end up with a better ROI than level 2. Again, check the spreadsheet and play with the values. Remember this would 60 sat an hour without captcha. The closest competitor is qoinpro with 1 sat a day. |
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i think level 1 should have a coast..
it will be 0,0001 satoshi maybe
maybe system will be better ..
no it shouldnt as its meant to be working as a faucet The faucet failed. Sometimes, you need to think out of the box, not to fix something irremediably broken. |
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i think level 1 should have a coast..
it will be 0,0001 satoshi maybe
maybe system will be better ..
Yes, 0,0001 would work, with 1 satoshi per minute (instead of every 2 minutes) and double the capacity compared to my calculations. But getting 10000 sat from faucets would be very long, I think. |
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I ran some calculation and PM the admin. Charge 5000 sat for level 1, make it pay 1 satoshi every two minutes, set a lifetime similar to the one below and you're set. Less interesting than higher grade, still interesting enough, no captcha and 5000 is something some can offer, even with another faucet. Level Per second (BTC) Cost Lifetime (s) Max earnings Max profit Max ROI Max return per day Clicks required per day Max capacity (BTC) Per minute (BTC) Time for max (s) Time for max (mn) Lifetime
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1 0,00000000 0,00005000 1 838 925 0,00015324 0,00010324 306,49% 14,40% 72 0,00000010 0,000000005 2 400,0000 40,0000 20 30 48 45
2 0,00000010 0,05000000 1 714 286 0,17142860 0,12142860 342,86% 17,28% 48 0,00018000 0,00000600 1 800,0000 30,0000 19 20 11 26 You can check the spreadsheet too Of course, the problem might not be faucet and bot, but DD4BC (remember him?) Who's the dd guy A blackmailer, he threatened to DDoS the site if admin did not pay 1.5 BTC (at least this is what admin said) |
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I ran some calculation and PM the admin. Charge 5000 sat for level 1, make it pay 1 satoshi every two minutes, set a lifetime similar to the one below and you're set. Less interesting than higher grade, still interesting enough, no captcha and 5000 is something some can offer, even with another faucet. Level Per second (BTC) Cost Lifetime (s) Max earnings Max profit Max ROI Max return per day Clicks required per day Max capacity (BTC) Per minute (BTC) Time for max (s) Time for max (mn) Lifetime
days hours minutes seconds
1 0,00000000 0,00005000 1 838 925 0,00015324 0,00010324 306,49% 14,40% 72 0,00000010 0,000000005 2 400,0000 40,0000 20 30 48 45
2 0,00000010 0,05000000 1 714 286 0,17142860 0,12142860 342,86% 17,28% 48 0,00018000 0,00000600 1 800,0000 30,0000 19 20 11 26 You can check the spreadsheet too Of course, the problem might not be faucet and bot, but DD4BC (remember him?) |
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Unfortunately I can read all messages so a question: Is "lifetime" always fixed when you upgrade different levels? Yes, but it doesn't matter: When upgrading, you lose nothing, not even the "hours of timeline" left on your previous account, because when you upgrade, the timeline is reset but you have a discount on the price of upgrade corresponding to how much you spent already (account by account - so if you spent 3 BTC on three account, you won't have a 3 BTC discount on one account, you will have a 1 BTC discount on each of them). Thanks but my question was this: Is "lifetime" always 1 month when you upgrade any level for once? It is never 1 month - this is just luring you with the monthly payment. Check my spreadsheet (rightmost colums) in the link I pointed you, it has all the lifetimes. |
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Unfortunately I can read all messages so a question: Is "lifetime" always fixed when you upgrade different levels? Yes, but it doesn't matter: When upgrading, you lose nothing, not even the "hours of timeline" left on your previous account, because when you upgrade, the timeline is reset but you have a discount on the price of upgrade corresponding to how much you spent already (account by account - so if you spent 3 BTC on three account, you won't have a 3 BTC discount on one account, you will have a 1 BTC discount on each of them). |
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But where did you hear that about not referring yourself? I haven't seen that posted by admin. Read it sometwhere I made a few adjustments to your spreadsheet. Thanks for sharing it You're welcome But why didn't you just modify mine? It can be modified by anyone. And yours is broken (column H) |
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Updated my summary with newest additions by posters A tentative summary, please add anything I may have forgotten - Free account: one account
- Paid account: unlimited accounts. You can buy directly a level 3, 4, 5... without having to start at level 2. When upgrading, you lose nothing, not even the "hours of timeline" left on your previous account, because when you upgrade, the timeline is reset but you have a discount on the price of upgrade corresponding to how much you spent already (account by account - so if you spent 3 BTC on three account, you won't have a 3 BTC discount on one account, you will have a 1 BTC discount on each of them). If the arrows for increasing levels are not visibile, this is just a display bug; click on the right side of the box until you get to the level.
- What is forbidden: self-referral, bots, paying people to use your referral link
- My spreadsheet answers a lot of question about (increasing) profitability, number of clicks...
- Tip: if the BTC difference between two levels are too high for your taste, you can by several account of lower level instead. Example; you have a 1 BTC account, you want to upgrade, but 5 BTC is too much - but 2 BTC would be fine. You can buy a second 1 BTC account, and you know have 2 BTC. If you want to move from 1 BTC to 1.25 BTC, it works the same - the granularity is 0.05 BTC, the lowest paid level (actually less, since there are discounts, too)
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A tentative summary, please add anything I may have forgotten - Free account: one account
- Paid account: unlimited account
- What is forbidden: self-referral, bots, paying people to use your referral link
- My spreadsheet answers a lot of question about (increasing) profitability, number of clicks...
- Tip: if the BTC difference between two levels are too high for your taste, you can by several account of lower level instead. Example; you have a 1 BTC account, you want to upgrade, but 5 BTC is too much - but 2 BTC would be fine. You can buy a second 1 BTC account, and you know have 2 BTC. If you want to move from 1 BTC to 1.25 BTC, it works the same - the granularity is 0.05 BTC, the lowest paid level (actually less, since there are discounts, too)
Maybe you can add in "What is forbidden:" pay people to use your referral link! I thought of it and forgot it. Thanks for reminding me, I have updated |
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