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Yes people might sell their merit points but with time situation will get better. The merit points will get scarce with time and will be in hands of higher level members who will not risk their account credibility for earning few bucks by selling these merits.
Basically, the new system is designed in a way that will keep getting better on its own. Also, some of the members also got negative trust based on suspicion for merit farming. So, the higher ranks members are already doing their best.
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The balance of interest rates than the current life is much higher, but put in to work ineffective. The bitcoin is up and down, the risk is too great. Which is more suitable for investment?
Whose money are you going to invest ? If you have earned it on your own, you can take the risk and invest in Bitcoin. If you are investing your parents money and make a loss, it will be embarrassing to explain the situation to them. In the long run, chances of making loss with Bitcoins is almost negligible but do college students have that much patience ? |
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A lot of people who complain, although it is still too early to judge whether the merit system is successful or not.
Many members think the sale of merit will happen or many useful posts that don't get merit and blah blah blah. But to make this system successfully, I think the sources member must be added the amount was too little.
Merit sources are already being added and now we have 49. Admin said that we may expect up to 100 by the end of this year. |
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Welcome to the "Legendaries and Friends Age".
Why are you all ignoring the merits given by these Legendaries to new members. The purpose of merit system is to reward quality posts, it does not matter whether it is from a legendary member or a newbie. |
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For rank : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0For merits : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0Read the thread and responses and if you have any doubt you can post. All those members who are legendary today started with 0 posts only. It is true that they do not had to go through this merit system but one thing is for sure that is you pass this to reach that level, your profile will look much better in comparison to theirs. We may see changes to this current system like all the members are required to earn certain number of merit points every six months or so so as to maintain their current level. Just do not give up and learn from the posts and threads getting good number of merits. |
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Not sure about other new members but it appears to be the best thing that happened to you or sure.(Judging by merits you got). I hope other new members feel motivated by this.
If you look at the user stats closely , you will find that about more than 5000 new members join here daily and there are more than 10000 posts being made daily. Do you think that all the good posts will get spotted and merited ? It is not physically possible for 50 people to read all those 10000 posts every day. At such, most of the new members will be stuck at their current levels only. We can see improvement in post quality for sure and that is good for the forum (not for new users who want to gain ranks as well).
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Is there a function to the merit sources being hidden?
Members will start begging from them. With time, when the current members ( non merit sources) have expired all their Smerits, the it will be quite easy to spot merit sources. It would be interesting to see if some more changes are done in future to keep their identities hidden. More like given some additional Smerits to regular members based on their activitiy. The new system is still in its initial stages and thus it is very hard to predict the future. The admin has already stated in the official thread that necessary changes (like demerits)can be easily implemented along with merits. |
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Btctalk name : krishnaverma
Rank : Member
Current post count : 105
BTC Address : 34Hkz3LMrmjwSkxJwYHWUby4okJgCb6JGD
Wear appropriate signature : Done
Wear avatar : Not allowed
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You far more elaborated place would have the same importance in the first thread.
Sorry, I don't understand this sentence. Please stay on topic. If you have anything to say concerning the actual content I'm all ears. Sorry I meant " You far more elaborated post would have the same importance in the first thread." |
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However my post is far more elaborated than the one linked (imo). So what's your opinion on this matter?
You far more elaborated place would have the same importance in the first thread. |
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come on. do why really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?
1) This is good for the forum. 2) It will prevent the abuse of newly introduced merit system. 3) It will decrease the work load on moderators. This much should be enough. |
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Just got to understand this new system and I like it, new winds blowing on Bitcointalk. Thanks to theymos for trying out new innovative things. But I see one issue and perhaps you can tell me where or why my thinking is wrong. With copycat scamcoins like DeepOnion that have a relatively large "community presence" on Bitcointalk, a lot of merit points arrive at those very people's accounts who're widely considered scammers or not trustworthy. Simply because those communities are designed to shill the creators and high ranking accounts of the respective scams. If there were some sort of demerit points, the very same user's merit would likely even be negative, rather than high on merit points. Often times, the merit would probably become as negative or similarly negative as the already existing trust ratings. Now, though, you may even see users -16 trust rated, yet with a lot of merit. I think there is a need for demerit points because of this reason. I see theymos said he can implement this easily later on. There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though
Now I don't want more fights on Bitcointalk and of course demerit points can cause issues in the same way, for instance rivaling communities demeriting each other. So this would be a similar issue as well, perhaps even worse. I really don't know what's the solution. Do you have any innovative ideas? Thanks for reading We already have a thread for this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2821510.0 |
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are you serious? they earn enough by posting? mhhh, then they really need not much money. and i can understand why they don't like the new merit-system.
but they have to be really desperate. if they have to earn money by posting and have no other options.
You got it wrong. It are the Legendaries and Heroes who are making livings out of posting. And the less competition they have the more living they make. Besides that it's an open secret that the long standing members have already gathered dozens of alt accounts on this forum. That's how they make their living. Merit system is status quo and that means nothing will change. Which is they way they want it, in their privilaged position. Makes a lot of sense deena, i think you nailed it. And this post of yours might lead to another new rule, demerits😛 Demerits can be abused a lot and will lead to more complications. |
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You can push +Merit in the right top of my massage to try how it works
becouse i hardly need 4 of them till 30 update rank
I tried doing that it did not work. Can you check if it is working for you on this post of mine ? We are not kids here.  |
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1) It got 2 merit points now 2) Another reply from other member got a merit point. I am sure that they will get more as they get more exposure. I think expecting instant results on quality posts is not a good idea. If you are making quality posts, you will get noticed sooner or later. |
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thanks yes for sure my english not godd but why are you looking for a reason / excuse to make fun of people? anyway thanks for your help, but next time try to be a little more human
Sorry if you felt that I was making fun of you. I always treat others as I like to be treated myself. |
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Consider this as a request to restart the Merit points gained after some testings and misuses.
With the current population, the poll may not accurately report the average forum member's thoughts, so, you can reply your comments and ideas as you wish.
As you can see, most forum users are in favor of the new Merit system while others had already seen the possibilities of trading exploits. I've seen a lot of reports of people granting huge amount of merits to useless posts. And those what they call " testing merits" that was wasted just to try how it works, although scarce, those should have been granted to deserving Newbies or Junior Members. There should be more sMerit for the Sources and None or Less for existing members. Our future sMerit will come from the new Merits that are granted by the sources. This way anyone with an active high ranking account will find it impossible to boost his low level Alt account(s) without contributing to the forum. sMerit Hoarders who are keeping them for the same purpose or for future sales won't get enough for hoarding. This requires (but optional): - Dedicated sources per board
- Sources that are active at different time zones
- More sMerits per Source
- More Sources
- Adjustments in Merit Requirement to Rank up
The Poll will End after 6 days, enough to catch hidden sMerit Trades and experience the positive benefits of Merit system to the forum. What if another member like you is not convinced with the way it is used after re-initiating ? Another re-initiation . |
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i dont see any answers my question below link ?
did you read or understand my post 10x .
You really need to look more carefully. Quoting the reply here : The new sMerit system instituted by Theymos may be a good measure to guard against forum spamming but this may soon be abused as others before it. Is it going to be a kind of merit my post and I merit yours now like we do have with the Steemit upvote? Vote for me and I would vote you back system now? Cronies meriting cronies posts without substance?
People, what do you all think?
There is a difference. On Steemit, the votes are not scarce. Here the merits will keep getting scarce with time. Members will merit other members making useful posts. Eventually, Smerits will keep accumulating in hands of more responsible people. |
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Now After shame full act of giving useless tag of Shitposter, Actmyname has started giving Red tag just because one member give Merit to another member. He along with few others want all merit given to him or to DT members only  Beware guys, if you give Merit to any account, this mafia of 3 DT members (actmyname / Pharmist / Cat) will tag you thinking alts are giving merit to each otherBut if you give Merit to DT members or well-known accounts, only then its acceptable  Here a recent attack of actmyname...  Where is the link to see this activity ? |
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