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1801  Other / Off-topic / Re: How secure is Ubuntu login password protection? on: June 22, 2011, 06:13:01 AM
Is this something that can be bypassed? Would you leave an unencrypted wallet behind it?

And while we're talking about it. If I don't browse to anything the least bit shady I'm not going to get a 'buntu worm guaranteed, right?

I dont think its Ubuntu specific. The user/password part is part of linux (kernel).
1802  Economy / Economics / Re: Eurocollapse, PIIGS, and capital controls on: June 22, 2011, 05:55:49 AM
There is always the option of inflating like hell to save the greeks. In fact, that is exactly what the ECB wanted to do but the european population dont want to pay with higher prices for the mess the greeks got into (which is understandable). But the european politicians and the bankers want to save the greeks so they can keep paying the debts they own.

I have always said that the ECB will talk tought to keep the central-european population happy, but at the end of the dayt it will bail out the PIGS no matter how much inflation it has to create. It will talk tough, but it will NOT act tought.

Either way, default or inflation, Bitcoin is a very good option. I have met a greek in the OTC chat room. There is an european one: #bitcoin-otc-eu . I am sure you can find someone from Greece there.
1803  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Regulating Bitcoin Exchanges on: June 22, 2011, 04:25:50 AM
Bitcoins are NOT untraceable, and are anonymous only if the addresses used to receive them cannot be linked to real people. If exchanges become regulated and will require ID from all users, it will be extremely easy to see (in the block chain and in correlation with the exchanges databases) who paid how much to whom and when. This is a performance that cash will never achieve!

The good part: thieves will be easier to catch.
The bad part: farewell, privacy!

Like most things in life, bitcoin has two sides  Grin

1. You still have the OTC market.

2. There are ways to hide your bitcoin trail.
1804  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Una publicación económica española prepara un artículo sobre Bitcoin on: June 22, 2011, 04:15:11 AM
Ya tiene credibilidad. El problema es que la mayoría de las persona tienen que dormir, madurar, el concepto varios dias, meses, para entender porque esto es revolucionario y positivo.

Pues claro que tiene crediblidad. Pero que salga en un diario económico y en buena luz pues ayudará sin duda.
1805  Other / Meta / Re: Kill the Politics forum on: June 21, 2011, 08:44:43 PM
Eh, I think we are only going to achieve a personable forum is if we take out all discussion and limit it to tech support. That's what Nintendo did a few years back. They certainly got the professional atmosphere they desired but it reeks normalcy and sterility.

Then maybe Jessy Kang idea about closing the Economic subforum is not such a bad idea. I really dont know exactly what but something eneds to be done with this forum.
1806  Other / Meta / Re: Kill the Politics forum on: June 21, 2011, 08:15:02 PM
Nobody speaks for Bitcoin as a whole. Not even the forum staff. It's not a company. It's a product used by all. The views of its users represent Bitcoin.

I know. I was thinking about it more like a PR move than anything.

I do believe that this forum is not making a great service to Bitcoin.
1807  Local / Hardware y Minería / Re: Nuevo en el mundo Bitcoin y nueva mina on: June 21, 2011, 08:08:49 PM
Saludos chicos,
Llevo unos dias minando y siguiendo el mundo del bitcoin, parece que entre en un momento difícil después del ataque sufrido a una de las grandes casas de cambio,voy hacer una pequeña inversión actualmente mino a 650 Mhash/s aprox con una ati 5970 , quiero alcanzar unos 1600 Mhash 24/7, vosotros como veis el tema ahora mismo me sera rentable?

Después quería comentaros que hay una nueva mina que dan 5 BT de recompensa por el primer bloque, cuanto se puede tardar aprox en solucionarlo?

Bueno un saludo a todos espero que nos veamos mas por aquí y los Bitcoins se hagan fuertes xD

Minear ahora mismo está en un momento delicado. Si la dificultad sigue subiendo como hasta ahora será imposible recuperar el dinero que has invertido en un nuevo equipo. Además está el peligro de que una compañía y otra gente han anunciado chips especializados para Bitcoin que dejarían a las GPU's obsoletas para minear. En teoría llegarán a finales de este año principios del próximo, pero tomatelo con excepticismo porque luego veremos lo que pasa realmente.

Yo te diría que si vas a comprar solo la tarjeta gráfica y ponerla en el ordenador que ya tienes, probablemente te salga a cuenta. Si tienes que comprar el equipo para montar el ordenador deberías pensartelo muy mucho. Sobretodo hacer los números bien asumiendo que la dificultad va a seguir subiendo y subiendo.
1808  Local / Español (Spanish) / Una publicación económica española prepara un artículo sobre Bitcoin ACTUALIZADO on: June 21, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
Me ha llegado el rumor de que una publicación económica española está a punto de publicar un artículo sobre Bitcoin.

Cuando lo publiquen lo linkearé aquí. Que un medio económico publique sobre Bitcoin en castellano ayudará a darle credibilidad.

EDIT: Se acaba de publicar el artículo: http://www.libremercado.com/2011-06-26/el-fenomeno-bitcoin-la-moneda-electronica-de-internet-1276427764/

Ya me direis que os parece.
1809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's the most important next step for a better functioning bitcoin economy? on: June 21, 2011, 06:23:36 PM
PORN.

Remember the Internet was made for porn! We need the same for Bitcoin. Once por is onboard the rest will follow.
1810  Other / Meta / Re: Kill the Politics forum on: June 21, 2011, 06:09:18 PM
Remember boys, everybody is stupid for not understanding, you don't need big organizations accepting Bitcoin for credibility, and you don't need good PR:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/06/bitcoin-eff-wikileaks-fsf-donations/39055/

Victims of the Sunk Cost Effect can form a line below.

 Roll Eyes

According to you we are tainting the project... But I guess we should not get offended by that.

Anyways, I was thinking on having a sign at the top of the political sections saying that the opinions in the forum are not the ones of Bitcoin (or something like that). Would that help towards PR?

EDIT: Btw, I write for a economic publication here in my country (not in english) and always try to write in an understandable and clear way, even when talking about complex monetary issues (my speciality inside economics). I am trying to do something similar in the economics subforum but this forum is too much of a mess to have a nice economic conversation. But it is important to me to explain things in a easy to understand way. People usually use complex words to hide their ignorance or failed theories. I dont think Im more intelligent than anyone else, I trully believe that if you expalin things properly, anyone can understand even the complex issues, if they have the interest.
1811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MTGox Is Gone Forever.... ? on: June 21, 2011, 03:57:17 PM
I actually think this will lead Bitcoin to a needed bump.
Its insane deflation was ruining all btc based business, as it was more profitable to simply hold to the bitcoins and wait then to trade with them, now with the speculators scared as hell and away of it, it could be an opportunity to actually create a Bitcoin economy.

Actually, I spent several coins when they were between $25 and $30. Im very happy about it. Hopefully all this will teach everyone that hoarding bitcoins forever its not such a good idea.
1812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be on the Peter Schiff Show 2011-06-20 at 10AM EDT on: June 21, 2011, 02:35:47 PM
"Intrinsic" value in this context does not mean intrinsic value in a philosophical sense.  Rather, it means having value other than as a medium of exchange.  IMO the industrial use for gold is rather weak compared to silver or oil or copper or rice, but even gold has SOME industrial value, while bitcoins do not.

Gold has a lot of industrial uses, just not at these prices. For example, gold is a very good conductor and would be used in electronics a lot if it was dirt cheap. But people value more gold as money than gold as conductor, thus is used as money.

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As a medium of exchange, bitcoins do have value, but usefulness as a medium of exchange does not lead to long term stable prices.  And perhaps not even short term stable prices.  In the interview Donald Norman is completely correct in saying that bitcoins make a good medium of exchange but a poor store of value.

I dont know where you are getting this. Bitcoin has been a good store of value. And the long term or short term stable prices I dont even know where you are getting it.
1813  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: June 21, 2011, 02:26:18 PM


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Bitcoins aren’t secure, as both the recent theft and this password problem show.

Is this dude really that stupid or just a shill? Bitcoin exchange is hacked therefore bitcoin is not secure, published it in Forbes no less.

If anything, persistent attempts, whether successful or not, to steal bitcoin demonstrates exactly the opposite i.e. that bitcoins are very valuable. Criminals do not steal worthless stuff.


I have answered him with respect and education and he has censored my comment. Amazing.
1814  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 21, 2011, 02:19:20 PM
I think this right here is the crux of our difference. Nothing I have read of Keynes suggests that his ideas are about extending government action beyond its primary responsibilities. My impression is that there are people who have that agenda that invoke Keynes to justify their objectives. I just don't think this fairly represents Keynes himself or his ideas, regardless of whether you agree with the guy or not.

I happily admit that Keynes model of the economy does not represent a number of things in real life, there are fair grounds to disagree with him, but don't forget that models are just that, simplified maps of reality the purpose of which is to try and capture certain relationships or behavior. Keynes did a lot for macro-economic, he basically founded the study. I just think criticisms of his ideas should be more constructive and not just used as a banner for metalists to rage and condemn and project their issues with their father or whatever with.

My own belief is that both Keynes and Hayek have something to say worth thinking about, I'm not interested in the kind of stop-think demonization used by "Keynsianism!" shriekers that replaces what should be enlightening debate.

I think you are indirectly refering to me and its offensive. I have dedicated a whole post to criticize one aspect of Keynes theory and you have been unable to answer. You have been answering the whole thread with generalizations that dont say anything, that its just like political discourse, and now accuse me of not being able to say something of worth?

You dont understand the ideas of Keynes and yet you support them but accuse others of being ilogical.
1815  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Overclock/underclock Radeon 5970/5870 Linux outside BIOS Limits? on: June 21, 2011, 01:26:10 PM
I've found that AMDOverdriveControl will put memory clock ranges outside that of what aticonfig --odgc reports. On my 5960's it will let me take the clock down to 75. The reported low is 1250, and the aticonfig command line refuses to clock under that. It will not mod the voltage or main clock speed outside the reported values.


Yes, I have found that AMDOverdriveCtrl lets you go outside the BIOS limits on the lower side, but never on the higher side.
1816  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 21, 2011, 12:34:43 PM
Answer what exactly?

Look, I'm no professor of economics, but from what I do know, the Keynes-hate comes over as pretty retarded. So Keynes intentions weren't good? To my mind his ideas were a matter of practical problem solving, that's all. And his actual job at the time was a matter of post war rebuilding. So the guy considered government to have an important role in that context, big fucking deal. The concept of aggregate demand pulling everything along is a concept, it's not exactly nazi-ideology.

Ok. Its ok to not know economics. I am ignorant of a lot of stuff. You should learn more about Keynes theories and you will realize that he is basically wrong, and its not a matter of politic believes. Keynes is just wrong, no matter your political believes.
1817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarianism and externalities on: June 21, 2011, 11:45:36 AM
Thanks for the replies, guys.

So essentially the libertarian solution to the problem of externalities is to make use of the legal system.  I agree this can work in cases where this a clear delineation of the infringer and the victim -- for example if an oil company pollutes my property.  However, how would you handle cases that transcend national boundaries, and/or the victim is the globe as a whole?  Acid rain was a classic example of the first case: sulfur emissions from power plants in one country would cause acid rain to fall in countries downwind.  I reckon this could still be solved using the legal system, though it would require a transnational legal system that all nations would be bound to.  Anyway, I'm glad that libertarians also agree that we do need strong transnational institutions (like a World Court).

Well, yes and no. You dont need a World Court to have global justice. In fact, you need to not have a World Court to have justice at all. Any centrallized system is created to abuse, and a centrallized court is no different. Different districts or judicial companies can opperate and agree in collaboration and competition and solve the global issues.

Regarding problems like acid rain and sulfur emissions, it is true that this are difficult problems to solve, but they are also difficult using other methods. They are difficult because they involve a lot of people. The best way to go about it would be to form associations so people could so together.
1818  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 21, 2011, 11:37:52 AM
What exactly is your question, I looked back and couldn't find a single question mark in your posts. As I recall it was I that asked you a question. Ask me now and I'll see what I can do, though I suspect that I won't agree with your premise.

By the way swapping out Keynes for Stalin means fuck all. If you seriously mean to imply Keynes and Stalin were basically the same, I cannot help you.

I was implying that you are pissing on us by basically not answering and saying that Keynes had very good intentions. That is unknown and basically independent of the validity of his theories. I substituted ironically the name by Stalin to prove that your same words could argue that Stalin had very good intentions... You are basically not answering anything, just handwaving.

And regarding my previous posts, it basically proves that the idea of slack capacity and lack of demand causing a crisis is wrong. And those are cornerstones of keynesian though. Without them you can not justify all that you are saying. But I get the impression (maybe a wrong impression) that you only know the surface of keynesianism, so you really can not answer.
1819  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 21, 2011, 11:24:44 AM
I know what aggregate demand is.

Government is the tax-payer, merely another economic agent, it's not some alien force from space.  There is an argument that a society cannot sustain itself on expansive monetary policy and I agree. But Stalin was for discretionary monetary policy, it's not the same thing as talking as if Stalin just wanted inflationary big government all the time.

Government is as big as the people need it to be to address the problems they need addressed, and if rebuilding nations is the problem you face, then leaving it to the likes of Ron Paul and his ilk just isn't going to cut it. I'm pretty sure Stalin did not envisage inflationary government for its own sake, that would be pointless.

Do you realize you have not say anything? Its just a big handwaving.

And you have still not answered me.
1820  Economy / Economics / Re: F**K the Exchanges! The real state of the nation. on: June 21, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
On a side note: thats what the bankers did during the great depression. Panic the markets into selling then buy up the stock quickly.

A lot of the banks went bankrupt during the 1929 crash and the following years. If they caused they are stupid.

The Great Depression happened because there was a bubble on the stock market, the bubble that created the roaring 20's. Bubbles always pop.
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