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1821  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to sign a message?! on: April 12, 2015, 07:53:54 PM
I got a message that this guide was posted in a different board[1]. I think thats a good idea, I will add a proper CC BY-SA 3.0 license[2] disclaimer in a second.


[1] http://www.bitcointalk.club/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=57&sid=9b5c71a991db1234561525fd741f3bb6
[2] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

Yep you need to copyright your stuff, there are many thieves these days lol
1822  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easy way that get me bitcoin on: April 12, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
Try having a referral list from all the faucets you visit and just make a list with all your links in the blogspot.com  its free so no need for paying,then just advertise your list with backlinks everywhere without getting flagged,after  about 3 months of earning create a faucet with avertising that pay in bitcoin,to make a faucet tou must figure out wamp server and faucet scrips are shown how on youtube.after a wile you will learn how to trade bitcoin and get into altcoins for more coin    goodluck

Nah thats just the oldest trick, people know that already, not worth it.

Besides too many people do it already, so the best is just to write captcha!
maybe starving africans would benefit from doing captcha all day for bitcoin  lol

Yes there is an article here somewhere on this blog that proves that writing captcha from a poor country you can actually earn a good income from that, look:

http://realbitcoinblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/work-for-bitcoin-earn-full-time-wage-in.html
1823  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: April 12, 2015, 07:46:27 PM

All it will take is one whale exit to puncture this auto fulfilling prophecy.  Smiley

I dont think there are whales in bitcoin yet. The core developers or whoever holds like 1m bitcoin, will hold it because of the community.

Yes maybe he will buy stuff with it, but i dont think he will exit completely, probably closing 10% of his positions
1824  Economy / Economics / Re: Is deflation truly that bad for an economy? on: April 12, 2015, 07:44:54 PM

Wait you think free markets cant have corruption?  What about monopolistic practices or monetary influence on legislations.  Or just take any African states ruked by warlords.  Or exploitation of labor?

Corruption has to do a slack of legal framework more tgan anything

So you want to have a tyrant ruling over us to protect us from tyrrany? You realize how nonsense that is?

If people are sheeps they do whatever they want with them. Otherwise a free society will also have rules, its not the wild west, it just that it doesnt have rulers.
1825  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 12, 2015, 07:34:46 PM
i'm getting my daily money from some ponzi sites like coinsdouble, cryptotriple. etc., where i've invested before  Tongue Tongue Tongue
and some coins from trading, some from sig. champaign Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


~Rude Boy

Careful with those ponzis, you can lose all you money on those very fast, so its risky alot.
1826  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 12, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
In fact time has almost equal value to everyone. Each person owns about the same amount of time during his entire life. But unfortunately, time can not be transferred


Yeah I don't really get your point. Some die at birth and some make it to 110 years of age. Also, life quality is as important as living for a long period of time.


Yea, i bet many 30 year odls who die young lived much better, and probably died because of their extreme sports or whatever.

Than many people who live until 110 and regret alot of things that they didnt have chance to do.

So quality is a big think, thats why i think money should not be distributed.
1827  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you spending your Bitcoin? on: April 12, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
How much BTC do you have now ? About 3 btc
How much did you spent? Almost 0.5 on various investments
How much did you lost or scammed by someone?  About 0.01 in total by some idiots, and also got robbed a little
1828  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easy way that get me bitcoin on: April 12, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
Try having a referral list from all the faucets you visit and just make a list with all your links in the blogspot.com  its free so no need for paying,then just advertise your list with backlinks everywhere without getting flagged,after  about 3 months of earning create a faucet with avertising that pay in bitcoin,to make a faucet tou must figure out wamp server and faucet scrips are shown how on youtube.after a wile you will learn how to trade bitcoin and get into altcoins for more coin    goodluck

Nah thats just the oldest trick, people know that already, not worth it.

Besides too many people do it already, so the best is just to write captcha!
1829  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 21 million not never !!! on: April 12, 2015, 07:29:27 PM

not necessarily, in the future we could fork bitcoin and adding something to restore those coins, i'm thinking what would happen in this case, the price will decrease because more coins will be accessible or it will remain the same/increase? and who will be the owner of those coins?(i'm theorizing that the original owner has no track anymore of his lost coins)


I really hope that never happens. There's no way of telling whether coins are just parked. I wouldn't be best pleased if my coins suddenly disappeared from my grasp because a bunch of strangers decided they might be 'lost'.

You can say it, for example you could trace the transaction of similar addresses or from where he got inputs/ outputs, and correlate with those.

If he has a deterministic wallet of course.
1830  Economy / Economics / Re: Is deflation truly that bad for an economy? on: April 12, 2015, 07:27:44 PM
I really like these debates that go nowhere.

Deflation is good for the economy ok, i dont know what proof you got that it isnt, but you should check your facts then !
1831  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 12, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
I like the OP's idea, but since im too bad at saving, and i like to buy thingies and gadgets, what i do is; i try to buy something of more
quality, so that it lasts me much longer, and the price justifies that.

For those that may have problems saving (like me) heres what you could do to make it easier on yourself saving; on each paycheck skip 3 days,
dont withdraw it on the 1-st (for example), withdraw on 4-th, and the next month on 7-th, its not that hard, and will make it more interesting.. but
in the end, its all about not spending on things you dont need.

Its like George Carlin said: "we buy shit we dont need, with money we dont have, to impress people we dont like" RIP legend

cheers

I like your ideas too. All of these are things I should start doing ASAP. Trying to go from zero to hero in savings, let's see how long it takes.

Well atleast you guys try to become better at saving, the other guys dont even recognize that they got problem with overspending...
1832  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ■■■■ Free e-book about Storing your Bitcoin Safely! ■■■■ on: April 12, 2015, 01:36:57 PM
Ok guys give me your feedback about the e-book, i`m interested very much!  Smiley
1833  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ██ Tutorial: How to keep your Bitcoins 100% secure! ██ on: April 12, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
So did anybody learned some security for your bitcoins from my book? Let me hear your feedback guys!  Smiley
1834  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: April 12, 2015, 01:28:40 PM

If Bitcoin replaced all the currency in the world, it would be worth less than $1 million per BTC. If the economy (and the value of a bitcoin) grows at 3% per year, then it will take more than 600 years for 1 BTC to go from $1 million to $100 trillion.

Anyway, I don't think that anyone disagrees that more decimal places may be needed at some point, but from what I've heard adding decimal places is easy.

Finally, there is no good reason for the money supply to be equal to GDP. It might be good to maintain the money supply at some fraction of GDP, but there is no way to determine what that fraction should be.

According to my calcultions about 750.000$ (current purchasing power of the $), which may grow to 1m$ but i highly doubt it as we face a severe recession / depression if these central banks print money like crazy.

If GDP will be lost, which will be as if the riots will break out then alot of property could be damaged, so let's just go with 750.000$ cap at best.

Now obviously not all money will go to bitcoin, you cant force 100% of the population to use it, my estimate is that at it's best it could be perhaps 40% of the world population, and thats still in optimal results, not to say about other cryptos that could replace bitcoin.

So if this is true then we will definitely need 5 more digits so that we could do commerce on the small scale too.

But my idea is to keep the names of the units "mBTC" "satoshi" "cBTC" and such, and just name the other 5 digits like 1 "Gavin" or 1 "Maxwell" or whatever from the main developers. So that it should not be confusing to new members, if we would rename 1 satoshi to the 0.000000000001 decimal it would be pretty confusing.

Well there are many arguments for keeping the supply = gdp, which  i wont discuss here, but it just more efficient that way. Of course in bitcoin we can't do that so we can only play with the decimals.
1835  Other / Archival / Re: Best bitcoin faucets? on: April 12, 2015, 01:18:11 PM
If you like play games, then try Bitcoin Flapper or Bitcoin Crush on android
You could earn 0.001BTC/day

Or you can try faucet from gambling sites & multiply it Smiley

Or halve it / lose it all, gambling can be dangerous though.
1836  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 12, 2015, 01:17:13 PM
There is also another way of getting bitcoin if you find people who would hire you for simple tasks: draw an image/logo, make music, or perform simple work tasks, or programming. All this can be hired for bitcoin and they could pay you nice.
1837  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: April 12, 2015, 02:12:38 AM


The opposite of what you're saying exists with many fiat currencies which are hyper inflated. I'd rather deal with bitcoin, then with some currency that I need about 10,000 just to buy a coffee. Walking around with a bunch of paper notes and coins, is 100x worse than bitcoin being limited to 21 million.

At the end of the day, ease of use remains exactly the same whether or not something costs you 1 bitcoin, or 1 satoshi, it's all digital transactions.



Ok but that will cause exactly the same thing as you mentioned.

If 1 bitcoin will be 100 trillion $ in the distant future, then 1 satoshi will be like 10.000$ or something like that. Then if you are for example a pizza company, are you going to charge 10.000$ (current dollar) for 1 pizza , that would be 1 satoshi. It seems insane.

So either bitcoin will be better divided, add like 5-6 more decimals to it, or the 21 million is not enough to encompass the ever growing wealth of the planet.

Money printing is not always bad, but overprinting it is. The money supply must be equal to the GDP
1838  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: April 12, 2015, 01:41:30 AM

These fucking miners are too greedy and inflate bitcoin too fast, this is bad for it's economic growth.


Write a strongly worded letter to Satoshi. The miners have precisely zilch to do with the amount of inflation.

How exactly, the more they mine the faster the bitcoin will get in circulation. If 1 people mines he will mine slower than if the whole planet is mining.


There might be modest variations in timing but that 1 person would be producing 25 coins every ten minutes all alone. It's hard coded into the algorithm.

Hmm I see then. So there is no conflict of interest then right?

Well i dont blame satoshi, i personally would have liked a coin supply of atleast 1 billion, i think 21m is too few, but then if the inflation would have been slow it would took too much time to become deflationary and people would have lost interest in 400 years or whatever it would take.

If it would be a faster distribution then the first year inflation would be immense and people would discredit it.

So satoshi was a genius for picking bitcoin 21m coins, a perfect balance between credibility & stability.

But this will make bitcoin an investmen currency and not a commercial one, because if the price gets above 1 bil $ / bitcoin then 1 satoshi would be too expensive to conduct basic transactions.
1839  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 12, 2015, 01:28:28 AM

Another thing that amazes me:  You hear story after story of "millionaires" (mostly pro athletes) who finance finance finance, and then end up with nothing once the big paycheck stop coming in.  I think one study said 75% of NFL players are broke within 3 years of retirement.  I fully believe this stat when you factor in all the players who only last a year or 2, probably only make the league minimum, and then hae no means to make money after they are done playing.
Some people are just dumb, and clueless when it comes to money. Most people dont know how economy works, nor what economy is.

They dont know how money works, or what money is.

They just think its a thing that gets me goodies, and when the money stops coming they dont know what the fuck happened.

Thos guys mostly have 1 digit IQ so don't bother revealing to them how to responibly handle money. They don't even know what world they live on.
Not really 1 IQ only . Their just not know what will they do with their money . Sometimes their will be spend for their sake they not think what will happened if they spend it for only their sake. But in reality like in here in philippines if you work regularly your salary will be deducted the SSS or GSIS. This will be the method so that the regular worker can save although their salary in not really big.

It's not that, go to a village an ask an average person there "what is money" and they will have no fucking clue.

They will say to you that it's a thing with which they get goods, but their understanding is so primitive that it's hurting me.

A dog understands that if he licks your face he will get food, but there people are just so braindead that it's very embarrasing for me to hold a Masters Degree of economics...

It's horrible how stupid people are nowadays, so don't expect these stupid people to have good decisions with their money when they dont even know          what it is!
1840  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: April 12, 2015, 01:14:26 AM

These fucking miners are too greedy and inflate bitcoin too fast, this is bad for it's economic growth.


Write a strongly worded letter to Satoshi. The miners have precisely zilch to do with the amount of inflation.

How exactly, the more they mine the faster the bitcoin will get in circulation. If 1 people mines he will mine slower than if the whole planet is mining.
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