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1301  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 21, 2015, 07:44:49 PM

 if you buy something -especially expensive things like house, land, car etc..-  with loan you can save money . Coz everyone tend to trifle away their money .

With loan? Haha that is a nice shill for the banksters.

The premium thata bank earns on loan usually is more than 200%. If you buy a 20.000€ house you usually have to pay back like 60.000€ after 20 years.

It's a bit sad that you would want to give away that much, the inflation will not be bigger than the interest you pay, so you pay way too much that way.
1302  Economy / Economics / Re: US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2) on: May 21, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
US Dollar is very strong although its value goes up/down but there is a socio-economic agreement among nations to keep at least one currency active for international trades.US Dollar will not collapse totally but in future there will be more than one currencies to be dealt with in international market.US Dollar can not collapse so easy as people say there is a long way to reach till here.US Dollar will not collapse in 2015 not even in 2016.

The US dollar will collapse when the US bond market will collapse, they are tied together very strongly.

And the bond markets globally are now way overvalued. The 30 year bull market has to have a correction at some point, and unfortunately that correction will be a collapse.

In 1-2 years we will see that, that is certain.
1303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet on: May 21, 2015, 07:34:36 PM
You have no idea what is a tax. You know only microeconomics. You have no idea about macroeconomics.  Go to school.

A tax is an extortion, and if you dont pay it they will send armed thugs to your house demanding it, if you resist arrest, they will use lethal force against you.

It's a system based on violence and theft. You have to be their obedient slave in order to get along, otherwise only trouble will happen.
1304  Economy / Economics / Re: US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2) on: May 21, 2015, 07:17:04 PM
US dollar will collapse but not so quickly and as easily as we think.I think the reason will be Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in next few years.

I disagree, i dont think bitcoin will collapse the dollar, we give far too much credit for bitcoin.

The USD has been on decline now for over 30 years, and its a much bigger macro-economic problem:  global debt.

The bondage that CB around the world, under the leadership of the BIS, IMF and World Bank, has cast upon us. It's a curse.  Embarrassed
1305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet on: May 21, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
No, capitalists, like you, are thieves because they steal the profit of the productivity of the employees.

No because a job contract is voluntary, YOU CAN LEAVE WHENEVER YOU WANT. You can also make your own business if you want, nobody would stop you (except the state). Taxes are fucking not voluntary, it's basically an armed robbery!

Your system is based on violence and theft. Mine is based on freedom and voluntary, mutual association, and cooperation.

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Sorry but life isnt a pink paradise with ponies, you have to be able to make inteligent decisions for youself. And why should i pay for idiot's who made the wrong decision...  Huh
1306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet on: May 21, 2015, 07:00:28 PM
Stalin also lived in a castle ....
Maybe. But unlike many others, Stalin has left nothing after death. Basically there were only his jacket, uniform and the shoes, all remaining property was state owned. What is the number of people like him?

Why do you need any property after you die?  Cheesy

He lived off his whole life from other people's hard work, he was a parasite. And on top of that he mass murdered many innocent people...
1307  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 21, 2015, 06:58:13 PM
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This. Time is money.
Of course everyone, or almost everyone could be able to save one dollar from this current monthly expenses, but so what? It doesn't change anything. You would need ages to have something worth investing in, and like you said before, during this way, you'll probably need that money for something vital, which means going back to 0 and no investing for you.
Being born poor is a trap. A total scam.

The very best method to saving money is to create a Budget. Shocked Shocked Shocked
With a budget you figure out what your income is and what your expenses are.
Once you know these two things, you can look for ways to reduce your expenses or increase your income to allocate an amount of money that you can afford to save.

Well budgeting is great but some people barely have enough to feed themselves and if you have more going out than coming in then you're in real trouble and debt enslavement comes in.

If that is the problem may be they can start with have some saving first and not directly go for budgeting. Some people sure will need some saving to have enough money so they can do their things. May be they can start from a low earning first to make a good saving after that going to next level and do that step by step

How can they save when they haven't or barely got enough to survive? That was my point. People on the breadline can't even afford to save and end up borrowing just to get by then the debt enslavement cycle begins.

Only an idiot bank would hold the debt on their balance sheet. Your debt is an asset for the bank, but it's a very risky one.

So if this fiat ponzi scheme would continue, you would see people having like 1000 loans, and the current loan would pay the previous , like a cycle.

But the banks would allow you to have infinite loans, however the interest amount will always raise, so you would have to borrow more and more.

However banks would not keep those toxic assets on their balance, they would securitize it, and sell it to investors and traders for a fixed price, with some 10-15% discount, depending on risk and your other loans factor and income.

It would be a huge global ponzi scheme, but i think unless crypto currencies prevail , this is what the future will be  Sad Cry
1308  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 21, 2015, 06:54:02 PM
However unfortunately time is deflationary (in the sense that it decreases in amount and increases in value as you get older), and if you dont spend it quickly, it will evaporate and you will lose it  Grin

If people were allowed to live forever, we would have crowds of zombies purposelessly walking the streets. Just like with air, the utility of time would be next to nothing then...

This reminds me of the movie In Time

Yea exactly, some people are so dumb that they cant spend their time intelligently, life is a competition, no doubt.

Even though there are many marxists here that dont recignize it, but reality is reality, people must work with what they have, and stealing is immoral.

I saw that movie, i agree that that would be the best and most fair thing to do, use time as the basic currency, but it should be stored in a blockchain so that nobody can steal it from you  Cheesy
1309  Economy / Economics / Re: US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2) on: May 21, 2015, 06:50:05 PM
I don't think US dollar will collapse in 2015. US dollor in the rising time, it will break 100 in the end of the summer.

I agree that the US dollar won't collapse in 2015. Its demise will be slow and gradual in the future.
What is the 100 you are talking about?

No this is stable value this year euro and swiss frank are off.
So i wont expect for dollar to collapse not this year.


There will be calamities in the market in Q3 this year. Will the USD collapse, i dont think so, but it is possible.

The global bond market is on an edge now, and the bond market is the only leg that this stool called the USD has, once the saw comes and cuts this leg too, the USD will collapse.

But until the printing press is rolling, and bonds are bought by CBs, not a chance.

ou think that this is cuz some bank is US are pronounced guilty on raisin there interest.
Think that this will cause dollar to fall?

Or you think that this will happen.
Hope it wont cuz seem like its only stable from all others.


They wont and cant raise interest rates. Because the banks have too much leverage, and also the government has also too much debt.

It has been calculated that with a 5% interest rate the US will go bankrupt instantly. So no chance they raise interest rates.
1310  Other / New forum software / Re: New rank? on: May 21, 2015, 06:46:53 PM
with satoshi's (imaginary) face on it!

You mean, a face like this?

 Smiley

Nah, i dont think satoshi is a 13 year old guy, or not even similar looking.

I think Dorian Nakamoto's face is probably very similar to satoshi's face. He is probably in his 50's and probably a very high IQ guy, working in IT and probably has glasses and grey hair like that guy.
1311  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help Me Earn A Job :) on: May 21, 2015, 06:42:34 PM
Youtube is bullsh!t, you can barely earn there especially since they lowered ad prices. It seems to me that google is getting cr@ppier by the day.

Also their adsense is very strict, you can easily get banned there.

Dont go with centralized professions, stick with decentralization. The new paradigm has alot of jobs to offer  Wink

i had a youtube gaming channel with around 500-1000 views per video and the earnings were crap indeed. in some cases you get just $1 per video and some times even less. totally not worth it unless it's a pure hobby.

That is still MUCH better then let's say add impressions.  And I would not say youtube is high paying gig.

But there are those "Youtube Stars" that have mastered it and have hundreds of thousands or millions of views and do make lots.   I am not one of those, very few are.

Yea but you are kinda late for that, as with all new things, the first ones reap the plants, or how is it called.

Youtube started in 2004, and most "stars" started around 2006-2007. Definitely it was the best paying thing during the crisis.

But now you see every little 7 year old trying to become something. The competition is big and the payout is low. Simple supply & demand.


Also google is very tyrranical now, and they are very strict with their rules, if you try to get "paid followers" they will ban you instantly.

And with natural growth, without cheating, it's merely impossible to get to the top, only if you are willing to be dedicated and work very hard.

I would not do it. I think Bitcoin has much more to offer, more money & more opportnity!

Lets stick with what he have, BITCOIN!  Grin
1312  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as a Retirement Account on: May 21, 2015, 06:36:42 PM
I dont know if this guy "Chamath Palihapitiya " invested most of his funds and accepts bitcoin.

It kinda tells you something, so I pretty probably follow the same advice considering bitcoin being gold 2.0 like he seems to mention.

So for me, I`d play copy cat and invest my retirement account to bitcoin.

I would be careful with that, atleast diversify into other cryptos.

Dont put all eggs in 1 basket. Try out Litecoin ,Dash, NXT and others, they can be promising too. Just keep the risk small, because the returns will be huge.

Its true that what you said about that bold part. But for other cryptos like you mentioned before is kind of late if you just start to make the investment  now because the price is already higher and may be you will get a little profit or may be wont get anything by investing in it

An investment is an investment, dont expect to make 1 million $ from it.

But a few 10-50% return is still better what many average stock market investors could get.

So definitely some opportunity here if you are well capitalized  Smiley
1313  Other / Archival / Re: Best bitcoin faucets? on: May 21, 2015, 06:32:37 PM

Those are very low paying, 1000 satoshi at tops, i would not become rich off those  Cheesy
1314  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ██ Tutorial: How to keep your Bitcoins 100% secure! ██ on: May 21, 2015, 06:31:36 PM
I think an expert user doesnt need an antivirus anymore, because its more risky to use an antivirus than not, if you are an expert.

Who knows what spyware the antivirus would have in it, that could spy, or even send back information to a 3rd party.
1315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet on: May 21, 2015, 06:25:20 PM
Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

The state =/= the people, oh yea like Marxism worked out in: Venezuela, Soviet Union, Cuba, East Europe. They were one of the worst places on earth, and you want to bring back the curse of communism back?

How many times has communism has to fail so that guys like you to understand it? Why the fuck do you use Bitcoin?

Because unless you realized, bitcoin respects private property, communists dont.

I respect the private property, i don't respect the private production.

Oh really, i think you are just a thief, because whatever private property we might own, you will always support thiefs who would rob that from us.

See if i own a farmland, you will eventually want to steal that from me, because you are just a thief who supports a biggest thief called the state.

He is using hegelian dialectic, born liar, and that smile is so fake on his face.

Stalin also lived in a castle ....
1316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet on: May 21, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
I'm actually going to defend Marxists here, there aren't really many real communists or socialists around anymore, what you have in the main political arena like this stupid twat are Leninists and Stalinists, these 'communists' turned on the Anarchists at the protests in Greece ( I suspect this finance minister had something to do with it ) and apparently it was over some guy getting badly injured or killed there and of course there are conflicting reports where people are saying it was the protestors that hit the person with a rock or something but Anarchists are saying it was police tear gas and adding to the Anarchist side of the argument the communists seemed far too organised to just suddenly have 'reacted' to this guy getting killed when they joined up with the police.

http://roarmag.org/2011/10/anarchists-communists-strike-riots-violence-greece/

Be wary of any Authoritarian scumbags trying to declare themselves your friends.

I`m an anarcho-capitalist and those guys are really scumbags.

I would never harm any private property or other people, unless of course for self defence.


Those red idiots who protest there are just a bunch of idiot brainwashed, thugs, or communists. They are heavy authoritarianists.

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Yea so instead of being the slave of the big corporations you can become the slave of the government.

Pretty good idea, why haven't i thought of this before?  Cheesy

You deserve a nobel prize!

Ofcourse i deserve a nobel prize, because i know better mathematics than the IMF/EU idiots. Even a simple housewife knows better mathematics.

Ok Mr. math genius. So you say you know math, ok then explain to me the pension system.

So you pay your entire life's earnings, a % of it, in a pension fund, just so that you can get pension for 5-7 years before you die after you retire.
So as healthcare advances and people live longer, you will have to increase the retirement age for it to work out.

Now since the entire pension system & healcare system , both, are ponzi schemes, unless you get more loans from banksters, it will collapse, and the poor old woman will be left without pension.

So your stupid marxism, is what feeds the banksters. Every single penny that the government borrows, because it spends more than it gets, will attract all sorts of thieves and thugs to steal that money.
1317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarianism's state in Europe? on: May 21, 2015, 06:08:11 PM

some regulations are bullshit but taxes and regulations are different subjects. good luck convincing people on minimum wage who pay no income tax to support libertarian parties who want corporations to pay no tax in the hope that the savings are going to trickle down to them.

what usually happens when companies make savings? cheaper prices and better pay for workers? more like extra money to the shareholders. once worked for a place that abolished most of their admin department and forced all the workers to do their own online. staff and customers didn't benefit one bit as the money just got absorbed back into the company.


That could be true but you miss 3 critical points about libertarianism, the word comes from liberty = freedom.

1) Nobody forces you to work for an exploiting company that treats you as a slave, a shitty company with a tyrant-like boss is no better than the state
2) Corporations would not exist in a free market, i can't emphasize enough, because you cant comprehend, that a corporation is the creation of the state. There would be only small & medium size companies.
3) What would stop you from starting your own company? If you think your boss is a tyrant, create your own company, and hire your co-workers there to save them from a tyrant, AND you can give them fair wages. WIN-WIN!




it is cheaper and easier to pool everyone's contributions under national insurance system than have everyone make their own arrangements with private firms operating under a profit motive. your preferred system is more expensive and covers fewer people.

as a net contributor to our national health service (been fortunate enough to barely need it) i don't object to paying into it because i know if i get sick in a few years and happen to have fallen on hard times i wont be left to die. this can easily happen under your private insurance system as if i couldn't afford to pay for one year and am unlucky enough to get sick, im fucked.

If you are so nice that you dont object to paying for other people's healtcare, then why not replace the health care system with a charity organization.

Why do you need parasitic bureocrats to steal the healtcare funds (like they usually do), or just waste insane amount of money on agencies to keep an eye on those thieves (who would also become corrupted sooner or later).

Your whole idea is based on: a government run healthcare cares about your life, no it fucking doesnt, in many cases you have to wait 10-12 months for a surgery, and then they do some error , and you die on the table.

It's a very bad idea to risk your health in a corrupted parasitic healthcare system.



national socialism allows private enterprise but not exploitation. the threat of nationalising companies who abuse their workers is usually enough to bring them into line. by that i mean you tell a company they have to provide paid holidays, childcare and so on, and if they don't do it, you take them over.

Oh man , you have such a silly worldview, why are you so attached to this antique stupid worldview where you go work your entire life in a miserable factory and then retire at 65 and life off others.

Your quality of life will be shit, you will work your entire life as a slave, and everything will be controlled by the "big brother".

In a free market, everyone could live their dream life, every day would be a vacation. You would just set up a company, then robots would work there for you. You wont even need workers, and then everyone could stay on his yacht on the beach drinking and partying all their lives.


Freedom can achieve that, but somehow you still prefer the scenario where you work your whole miserable life in a factory, just to get paid vacation, its bullshit!
1318  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PROMOTING AN PRODUCT ? how ? on: May 21, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Is there any tip how to promote such an product?

Thanks

edit:
advertising? but where ? free advertising
Can you tell me the specific of the product ??
Digital product ? Physical product or service ??
I think you can buy some advertised space on websites who has a good traffic or pageviews Smiley


I asked he never said.  But if you look looks like a lot of digital goods.  I don't see any physical goods, but all digital.

As far as item's hes selling I think he lowest price is going to be only way he really gets more traffic.  I can see a lot of his goods could have competitors.

Its the same as for digital, internet advertising is as efficient for digital stuff than for physical. Dont expect to put up bilboards to advertise BTC products because nobody will pay attention.

But if you use A-ads or other bitcoin ad network, then it should work.
1319  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★Btc-GoldMine - New faucet 288,000 Shatoshi per day! 20% Referral★250% Profilt★ on: May 21, 2015, 05:48:58 PM
Is this already over? 2 days? Each next scheme is getting shorter. What next 15 minutes pages?

If you guys waste your time with ponzi schmes, what do you expect. These are all scam sites.  Roll Eyes
1320  Other / Off-topic / Re: Red pill or blue pill? on: May 21, 2015, 04:28:03 AM
I vote for red pill. FIAT>BTC period.

You mean FIAT<BTC, fiat should go aways soon Smiley
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