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1661  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your Total time logged into Bitcointalk on: April 23, 2015, 09:52:31 AM
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1662  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: April 23, 2015, 09:52:06 AM
Of course i earn small satoshis today Cheesy

i earn some satoshis from my trading activity

also from faucet and my referral there Smiley

I`m also dynamic, my earnings are not earnings but rather investment returns, so my earnings fluctuate with the market.  Smiley
1663  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 23, 2015, 09:50:20 AM

If you could go back and choose another type of education, would you change it given what you said above?

If I could do it over, I'd either go into neuroscience, engineering or technology (science/physics background).  Business is a pretty bullshit subject to study in university as you mentioned, it's easy to learn online through research. 

If i could do it over, i would not have gone to university, i would have even quit school.

I would just waited until 2009 and saved money until then (probably asked some money from parents and would went to a low paying job), then buy bitcoin back in 2009 and now be filthy rich.
Hahaha great idea. 2009 is the biggest valued of the bitcoin in the history so that he said that he save his money and not going to school to only buy a bitcoin. Grin

I finished college in 2010, and high school at 2005 so if i would have dropped out of highschool in 2003 because i could only drop out after 2 years.

Then i would have had 6 years to prepare myself to buy bitcoins, even if i would have lived on government welfare + some help from my parents, i would have easily saved like 1000$ (i live in a poor country) , so i would have made a few hundred million dollars from that:

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/10/29/guy-named-koch-bought-5000-bitcoins-in-2009-for-27-now-worth-886000/
1664  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 23, 2015, 09:44:23 AM

You still look at the issue from the wrong angle, i.e. about what is more difficult (easier) to hide. This is a wrong perception. As long as they can get you (and if it comes to that), there will be not much difference between gold and bitcoin. And you seem to forget that bitcoin can be traced through the blockchain after all...

This has been discussed a million times already. If they want to track you down with all your bitcoins, they will in the end. And they won't even need your friends

Again disagree, mixers do a very good job and unless they corrupt every single mixer, (especially since they dont even hold logs) its virtually impossible to trace bitcoins.

Now thats probably the same with gold too (unless you leave fingerprint on the gold or DNA).

So the only issue is hiding it, if there is someone who wants to steal it so hard from you (ex: shady guys want satoshi's bitcoins)
1665  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you guess about he future of bitcoin? on: April 23, 2015, 08:23:44 AM
NEWS
(for the future of Bitcoin - new extra demand - USD 2.2 bn ):

DoubleW.club issued and now distributes in 8000 cities in near 200 countries - over 178.000 promotional "CCSA Coupons" worth € 11,000 each - IN BITCOINS ONLY  (€ 1.9bn)

In the next period of time it will significantly increase the demand for Bitcoins, and thus likely to increase their value expressed in fiat currencies, expecting rise up to 50%.



Lol is that true, please link some news article, i`m curious about that. If its true then bitcoin could go back to 500$ lol
1666  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 23, 2015, 08:20:38 AM

If you could go back and choose another type of education, would you change it given what you said above?

If I could do it over, I'd either go into neuroscience, engineering or technology (science/physics background).  Business is a pretty bullshit subject to study in university as you mentioned, it's easy to learn online through research. 

If i could do it over, i would not have gone to university, i would have even quit school.

I would just waited until 2009 and saved money until then (probably asked some money from parents and would went to a low paying job), then buy bitcoin back in 2009 and now be filthy rich.
1667  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: April 23, 2015, 08:18:18 AM
0.08 of several translations done in two days. Now have to translate the source code of a wallet, it will take me longer but i like the idea.
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hehe thats more than ive done all week!
yeah
trust be told Smiley, i spent some quality time but end up short each week

Try making a website and place ads on it, that could help.
1668  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 23, 2015, 08:16:27 AM

There hadn't been bitcoin back then

Don't know about gold being outlawed in communist countries (just don't know), but in the USA only possession of gold bullion, coins and certificates had been made illegal. Gold jewelery wasn't banned. And, if remember correctly, in the USA you could have been sentenced to 10 years in prison for holding illegal gold, so, was it tyranny?

Yes it was tyrrany, but gold is still a harder to hide wealth type. Everything you say here about bitcoin, is true for gold too, and its also worse.

Bitcoin can be hidden on a USB stick planted in your nearby forest, if nobody knows about that, then obviously its well hidden, and even if they find it, if its encrypted then nobody can access it.

Try hiding a chest of gold... all those ultrasound and magnetic field analyzers can easily detect any metal. I`m sure the military has got sophisticated detectors that can detect any gold chest barried in a forest.
1669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think 1.00 BTC will worth more than $10,000.00 USD at any time in 2015? on: April 23, 2015, 08:12:55 AM
Well, this thread is already around since October, but I think even back then things were starting to look quite dire. Wouldn't even thought back then to see $10k coins in 2015, and things aren't looking better now, either...

Look at global economy, which one is in worst shape? That or bitcoin? Then decide in which one to invest, i`m sure you will make the right decision.
1670  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: April 23, 2015, 08:11:02 AM
They will never ever be able to issue bonds again.
Greece would become a social pariah, not sure if that is what he is looking for.  Smiley

I don't think so. Greece will become a pariah for the United States and the European Union. But they will be able to sell their bonds to countries such as China and Russia.

And what able minded non-mentally ill person would buy them when they are near the brink of destructiion?
1671  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 23, 2015, 08:09:14 AM

referrals. massive amount of them will give you that much.

Yes all we know is using massive or tons of ref but still he doesnt proof to us anything about it. Without proof I dont think people will believe him that he claim till 0.1 in just a week. It doesnt make any sense that he already got that much just in one week
may be able to produce 0.1BTC / week, but at least you need a 1k-10k refferals acc, and must be real acc, not dummy acc

I have asked him multiple times for a BTC address that has this high earnings from referrals.  So far I don't think he has proved it through showing a BTC address actually receiving this amount.

Seems like a way to try to get people to look at his books.... but I could be wrong.

Wtf are you talking about, why are you defaming me?

Look at my previous post man:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003224.msg11163063#msg11163063
1672  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 23, 2015, 08:06:06 AM

If you think deeper about this, you will inevitably agree that it takes just "1 court order on some bogus charge" to put you in jail or even worse than that. Will 10 multisig wallets help you anyhow in this case? The weakest link is the man himself, not gold or bitcoin...

It wont save you from jail but it will save your wealth. If you are a victim of a political thing in a tyranical country then they can take all your wealth.

99% of populace (save for some die-hards maybe) will eagerly tell all their multisig wallets once they get into a serious scrape. Also, what will your wealth do for you if you are in jail and will probably spend there the rest of your life? And the chances for bitcoin to be outlawed are much higher than for gold...

The point of the multisig is that multiple people sign the transactions. Say you have 6 friends all around the world that you trust, so you will need 3 out of 6 to make a transaction, pretty good way to store wealth.

Also let's be serious, life inprisonment for holding bitcoins? Thats bullshit tyrrany, if people put up with that, then they really deserve it.

And actually chances are much higher for gold to be outlawed, it was outlawed many times already in USA and communist countries. Bitcoin hasnt.
1673  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 23, 2015, 08:00:24 AM

Well with or without free will, the decisions you make are impacted by genetics and the environment that you're in.  Without free will, it is pure cause and effect.  So what we are talking about really is the environment, which will impact the decisions that everyone makes.

Think about how heavily conditioned kids are - from their parents, family, friends, from their school system, from media and advertising.  If we don't have free will and are just a distant echo of the big bang, wouldn't it be beneficial to back off on the intense conditioning?  With or without free will it will still change society.

So given the importance of the environment we are in, how does our current monetary system and government affect our environment?  Are resources distributed appropriately?  Do the most intelligent and benevolent and selfless people become leaders?  Not really.  But of the infinite possibilities, there is an environment where it would be so.

I`m very sure determinism is not true. Because if determinism were true then you will have to ask who/what is determining things.

Some God is playing around with humans as their toys attached on strings. Whats the point of that?

Free will must be true otherwise nothing would make sense.
1674  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 23, 2015, 07:51:46 AM

Yeah it's even very interesting to see what type of drugs are marketed by society.

Psychedelics (psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT, Ayahuasca, Peyote, etc.) = mind opening and illegal all over the world except for select tribes, not addictive
Stimulants (caffeine, cocaine, meth, MDMA, etc.) - of those MDMA is mind opening and illegal, but coffee which increases productivity of workers is completely fine, decently addictive
Opiates (oxycontin, herion, morphine, etc.) - mind and pain numbing, incredibly addictive - this is mostly prescribed by health professionals

Even look at what point does society acknowledge a sociopath?  These people usually have a terrible childhood and become apathetic just to get by, and until they commit some type of crime, there really isn't any help.  Even then, they become victim to the legal system and police, who are unable to help anyone with mental illness.

Yes thats true, so make people smoke and drink but thats ok, but not the others. I think it will be legalized in the next 10-20 years there is just no way they can stall this much longer.

Of course the main obstacle is the church, most ultrareligious people just condemn it without even analyzing it. And there was no separation of church and state, its still the same entity in 90% of the countries.



There are lots of savages, I'd guess less than 50% of the population though lol.  For the most part these are kids that grow up without love, and then turn into insecure adults, overcompensated with aggression.  It's very odd to see unreasonable aggression from a man who was loved and accepted by his father.  Without good parenting and love, there needs to be some type of therapy (doesn't have to be in the typical sense with a psychotherapist) to acknowledge traumatic events and reconcile.  It's a very difficult process for most people, but anyone can do it, it just requires more awareness and a different perspective.  Some are just unwilling to do that.

Well its getting worse and worse, most males are without job, due to our magnificent money printing economy. And then obviously they will beat their wives and kids because of desperation. Some people are just too "alpha" and without a proper enviroment they go crazy.

And we wont see any improvement in that any time soon, as the economy will get only worse.



Yes, agreed.  The gazelles are just stupid, similar to our unconscious population.  With some awareness of the power they hold (which is power in numbers), the 300 gazelles wouldn't need to run from 5 lions.  But instead of awareness, they just have a fear reaction and it's every gazelle for themselves, and one of the little shits that twisted its ankle becomes lunch and none of the other gazelles give a shit.  On the flip side, look at the species of ants.  They work as a single unit for the greater good, and a single ant will give it's life for the rest to prosper.  So in that respect, ants don't need to run from say a spider that is 200X its size.

Yes but most animals are driven by instincts, and if that instinct is not made for survival then they will perish. Ants were evolved to be a collectivist society, the individual ant is easily sacrificed to hunt down a spider for the greater good.

Collectivism however is evil and its not good for people, there is no common good in humans, except survival, everything else is subjective.



Well empathy is required to care about those that suffer.  Although there are empathetic individuals, society as a whole is not empathetic yet.  Current society definitely doesn't care about the poor, so criticizing libertarians of the same thing is really a mute point.

Well put on the second point.  Once you remove obstacles that are largely implemented by the government, then the political job is done, and it's up to the individual to seize the opportunity and contribute to society.

No but really, i can understand why people are desperate in this tyranical society. But in a free society they would not have any excuses.

The fact that you cannot open your own restaurant chain because you require a 10m $ license from your slavemasters is a big obstacle, but in a free society everybody could do that. So a poor guy in a free society is only his own fault, whereas now its the governments fault.
1675  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 23, 2015, 07:38:34 AM
Just something simple like buying no brand food can go a long way to saving cash.

Yea and get poisoned by all the conservants and coloring ingredients that they put in it. The only place where I would not be cheap is food.

We all know despide processed meat is cheap, its very unhealthy. I`d rather save on anything else than on food.

I also dont drink fluorided tap water, its disgusting i only drink private water from bottles.
1676  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 23, 2015, 07:34:18 AM

If you think deeper about this, you will inevitably agree that it takes just "1 court order on some bogus charge" to put you in jail or even worse than that. Will 10 multisig wallets help you anyhow in this case? The weakest link is the man himself, not gold or bitcoin...

It wont save you from jail but it will save your wealth. If you are a victim of a political thing in a tyranical country then they can take all your wealth.

I remember there was a case when a millionaire went to a massively corrupt south american country and for some reason the local government didnt liked him and stole all his wealth. Now he got out safely from the country but his house and all his bank account was emptied.

If he would have held gold in that case he would have lost it too. But not if it was in bitcoin  Smiley
1677  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 22, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
silver

Silver is the same as gold only with a bigger ROI potential.

Here is my guide:
=================================================================

If you look for tangibility & small ROI : Gold

If you look for tangibility & big ROI : Silver

If you look for intangibility & huge ROI : Bitcoin

If you look for intangibility & extreme get rich quick ROI : A lucky altcoin that has 100$ market cap, buy now and hope it goes to 1 billion $ later.
1678  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: April 22, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
Did I earn some Bitcoin today?

Yessir.  Thanks to my favorite Sig campaign of all time!  If you can somehow join this campaign, do it!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.0



It only accepts full member and above, so not really for me lol. But my own sig campaign is pretty cool aswell.
1679  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 22, 2015, 01:10:21 PM



Let me know which software u got..if it is worth then I will buy it from you..let me see your daily proof..for me I have got daily proof of 0.0007 to 0.001 btc proof.. What about you??

I told you its not for sale, its too precious to be sold because suddenly everyone would overuse faucets.

It's a browser that i made that is specially designed to fill out captchas lightning fast, no cheating, all ads are visible and captcha is also entered so I don't bot, but what it does is that it speeds up the page loading time.

So instead of waiting 5 seconds for a page to load, another 4-5 seconds to navigate , another 7-8 seconds to find the captcha on the page and press the "get bitcoin" button, and another 3-4 secons to validate it, which is about 30 seconds even with the fastest internet on average on a faucet.

I only spend 6 seconds on a faucet or less depending how fast can i write. So i`m very fast.
1680  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you spending your Bitcoin? on: April 22, 2015, 01:06:24 PM
I  buy stuff online and cashout them as fiat through localbitcoins and use the fiat money to buy whatever i want in real life.

Hmm.. I've never thought about doing this but it might be nice (even profitable) to exchange bitcoins on LocalBitcoins and receive that premium.

Well its even simpler than that. It's called arbitrage and you only need 2 exchanges.

Use CEX.io or Bitfinex to buy bitcoins at market price, and then sell that bitcoin back on Localbitcoin to some desperate guy for +15% of the price.

And profit, and repeat. There is always a 60$ difference between market price and localbitcoin price.
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