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1741  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 17, 2015, 07:43:24 PM


How much time do you spend a week doing it?  That is a very high payout from faucets.



I think he's the owner of that site
So, most likely he earn 0.1BTC/week thanks to his refferals

Or he always get jackpot in faucet site Roll Eyes

I got referrals too but, i`m also writing captcha.

I made my own software which loads pages lightning fast, and moves the screen exactly to text box where the "enter your bitcoin address here" text is.

And with 1 click button i can just enter my adress, fill the capthca very quick and go to anotherfaucet.

Also all ads are visible so i dont cheat the owners, but with this tehnique, and 4-5 hours of pre-work, to map all faucets.

After i mapped all faucets and where the buttons are, i just fill them out 1 by 1 and then rotate it.

I can do 20-30 faucets in 1 minute, so with 4-5 hours work from filling captcha i can earn easily 0.03 bitcoin /day from faucets only.

I guess you can earn even more if you got lightning hands, but i`m a bit lazy so i only work 4-5 hours.

I can earn a full time incom this way.
1742  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: April 17, 2015, 07:32:41 PM

You see, democracy is the best mirage among all the mirage. That's why most countries are moving towards it. Even, look at the Middle East Spring...they all are running for it.



Well dont get me wrong, its a relatively good thing compared to what was before.

Ancient Egypt:
Slaves carried huge stones and were chained and whipped
Ancient Rome: Slaves could marry but they were bound to the household like servants and got no pay
Feudal Europe: Serfs could buy now land but only near their lord and they got payments but not much
Today: Serfs  today can work anywhere, but work 12 hours and the maffia government taxes them 70-80% (direct+indirect tax) and they are illusioned that every 4 year stamping on a fucking piece of paper is going to change society.

So it's better and better but not quite there yet don't you think?


Still not sure about it. I have seen enough democracy. Don't want to be part of democracy now. It's making me die everyday.

Well there is only 1 thing that is better than democracy, and I believe the change point is gonna be in our lifetime, which is : Freedom

Yes, freedom =/= democracy, its far from it, but we are going toward that path. We have seen enough tyrants and dictators, its really time coming to be free.
1743  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 17, 2015, 05:59:56 AM
i get bitcoin everyday from faucets
and giveaway

how much you take bitcoin from faucets everyday?


I'm sure he did not so much get bitcoin from the faucet, probably under 0.002 per day.

because I've tried it and the result is not much, but if you have referrals so much, maybe a day can earn more than 0.01

I earn 0.1 Bitcoin / week from faucets, thats a realy good example. I use this list if you are interested:

http://bestbitcoinfaucetz.blogspot.com
1744  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 17, 2015, 05:57:38 AM

Yeah, most people don't realize they can easily city out 10-20% by getting rid of additional expenses/impulse buys. Skip the $4 cup of coffee every day. Don't grab a bag of chips, smokes and a soda every time you get gas, drink water when you go out to eat, change you cable/phone plan (do you even need cable these days???), etc. Cutting your expenses should be your first goal .

Yea i dont drink coffe, i rarely eat chips, i dont smoke, and i dont have a car.

I live on pretty small amounts of money, and i save the rest in my bank account and other investments, trying to shift myself into bitcoin more.

I also dont have debt and never had any. I dont use credit card nor other fraudulent items.

Then you must be a saint Smiley
That's really surprising to see such a person on internet.

Yea i kinda have my own life philosophy, besides most rich guys dont spend much at all. And those who push money away from them will never have money.
1745  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: April 17, 2015, 05:55:09 AM
I just want to buy a house a sports car an have a solid income. I think as how much i invested in bitcoin i can earn that in a few years when it will be mainstream.

Of course i`ll continue to invest until old age, i dont really trust government retirement ponzi schemes, so i have to make my own income.

Government only give in form of pension as it thinks is necessary for your survival. It will not cover the luxuries you are talking about. For that you will have to have a solid source of income.

What are you talking about, the pension system is a ponzi scheme, and it will be gone before you get to that age. If you dont setup a good income stream by then you will most likely be fucked because there will be no money left on the planet to pay for all this debt/expenses.
1746  Economy / Economics / Re: US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2) on: April 17, 2015, 05:53:25 AM
How many times do I have to tell it, it won't be a dollar "collapse" it will be hyperinflation!
1747  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 17, 2015, 05:52:22 AM

see, every system has it's own problem. You see  China is struggling with it's system. No human right, so much frustration.
County like India is struggling with it's democracy as well.
Middle east countries are also struggling with their kingdom structure.
Everyone is fed up.
We need a rest button.

So no sources, just speculation? I'm not saying there aren't problems. But you have to work with what you have. At the moment that's a form of democracy. Referendums help bring issues to public attention. And to start debates. Far from perfect, but what are you proposing instead? And I mean realistic proposals with what we have now.

We don't need a system. It's the craziest idea to have a system which extorts people and robs their bank accounts or counterfeits money to feed the political parasites.

Or in other more technical words: taxation, bank freeze, quantitative easing, fractional reserve. I like to call these out what they really are.
1748  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: April 17, 2015, 05:43:36 AM

You see, democracy is the best mirage among all the mirage. That's why most countries are moving towards it. Even, look at the Middle East Spring...they all are running for it.



Well dont get me wrong, its a relatively good thing compared to what was before.

Ancient Egypt:
Slaves carried huge stones and were chained and whipped
Ancient Rome: Slaves could marry but they were bound to the household like servants and got no pay
Feudal Europe: Serfs could buy now land but only near their lord and they got payments but not much
Today: Serfs  today can work anywhere, but work 12 hours and the maffia government taxes them 70-80% (direct+indirect tax) and they are illusioned that every 4 year stamping on a fucking piece of paper is going to change society.

So it's better and better but not quite there yet don't you think?
1749  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 17, 2015, 05:39:15 AM


But in countries like India, Banks are giving 7-10% annual interest rate depending upon the amount, bank and maturity tenure. So that's not very bad compare to what you are refereeing to.

Thats being done because the inflation is eating it up. You got 1 billion people there that some need welfare, of course your government will print money.

You always have to look at the net interest rate. If you inflation is like 50% and your government gives your 51% on deposits, you dont get 51% return you only get 1% return....

So yea. If your annual interest is like 10%, then the inflation is easily 7-8%, so you also get only 2%, and good luck with that becoming rich lol....
1750  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 17, 2015, 05:35:46 AM
Well, in theory bitcoins have some advantages over standard gold. I will try to name some of them.

Unlike gold, bitcoins are:

1. Easy to transfer (worldwide transfers in seconds!)
2. Easy to secure (you don't have to build a safe to store bitcoin!)
3. Easy to verify (you don't need to be a goldsmith!)
4. Easy to granulate (how are you going to divide your gold ring?)

So in theory bitcoin is a better choice. The pros of Bitcoin definitely outweigh the cons.


If you start to weigh advantages over disadvantages, Gold will come on top.

1. Gold can be bought and sold in any country. And gold is more or less bought for investment and the people who buy it don't really have the need to transfer it worldwide. But when the need to do so arise it can be liquidated faster than Bitcoin.

2. Gold can be bought/sold on bullion exchange, so you don't have to build a safe to store it.

3. If you purchase gold from registered sellers/banks, it comes with certificates of it's authenticity, so you don't really need to be a goldsmith to verify it.

4. You're confusing gold bought for jewellery (as ring, lockets etc) with what we are discussing here, gold as an investment. And if you buy gold for the latter, it can be cut into pieces and sold as per the needs.

5. Gold can be confiscated easily by border patrol gangsters

6. Gold can be easily robbed from vaults by the government

7. A car full of gold is pretty suspicious, cops will seize that immediately, even if you have a few bars in your pocket.

8. Government can steal all the gold in your house.

They can do none of that with bitcoin. So which one you choose?  Cheesy
1751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is this the end of bitcoin? on: April 17, 2015, 05:33:30 AM
Bitcoin is the Yahoo of digital currency. The AOL. The Compuserve. The dial-up modem plugged into a landline.

Bitcoin is neither of those things.  Bitcoin, after 6 years, simply doesn't exist in the world like other tech.   Even Compuserve had more users at their peak.  The capitalization of the defunct Deutschmark, still being circulated and used as barter, is worth more than Bitcoin.

http://theweek.com/articles/473734/why-are-germans-still-using-deutsche-mark
Quote
Is the mark widely used?
Yes. There are currently 13.2 billion marks, equivalent to 6.75 billion euros, in circulation in Germany. A clothing chain called C&A rakes in 150,000 marks a month, while 90 percent of telephone booths operated by Deutsche Telekom take mark coins, known as pfennigs

I trust estimations more from the FRB, ECB and impartial people like Jeffrey Robinson over con artists trying to pump their own IPOs or defunct exchanges.  MtGox claimed millions of users and yet Risto Rpietila, on these forums, discovered MtGox only had around 60,000 addresses with anything in them (and a lot of them contained dust) and addresses are not people.  More realistic estimates from FRB, ECB and Robinson indicate less than 250,000 users.

It increasingly looks to be the case that Bitcoin was really all hype and smoke to make con artists like Mark Karpeles and Jed McCaleb rich.

If FRB's assessment is right then we have exponential doubling every 8 months but that still puts Bitcoin well over 10+ years before it becomes a household thing and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.


Are you a paid troll or what. Look at coindesks Q1 report, over 1m addresses, and still growing . Yes the growth rates is less now as the mainstream media demonizes it, but still growing.

If you guys after 6 years think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme then just go back to your ponzi fiat money and your ponzi retirement fund and your ponzi welfare and let's see which one will last more.
1752  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 17, 2015, 05:25:51 AM
if you think like that then you have never been to countries like Malawi, Niger, South Sudan, India, China.
There are people who can't afford to drink clean water. Two times food will be counted as a luxury for them. Go out and see the world, dear.

Most of the poverty today are not caused by lacking of resource or production technology, but by lacking of money, and today's fiat money system is the major cause of it, since it continuously shift wealth to ruling class

If the time of each person is used as currency, then every people in those developing countries will become almost equally rich as the person in developed countries. Unfortunately, in today's system they must work like a slave, use their precious life to exchange for some food that people throwing away every day in developed countries. Without money, their freedom is very limited, but with fiat money, they would never gain freedom

Some people might say that has something to do with education, but that is not true. A higher degree might give you a better career 100 years ago, but now there are so many people with higher degrees can not find a job.

If you look at the ruling class of those developing country, they live almost the same life as western elites. Now most of the European luxury products are bought by Chinese


Tyrants, political parasites, puppets, banksters, thiefs, fraudsters. The same trash subhumans that are infecting humanity with their filthy virus since it's inception.

We really need to stop this once and for all.
1753  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 17, 2015, 03:20:50 AM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.
1754  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: April 17, 2015, 03:16:25 AM
........

Its democracy, what did you expected. Every idiot who can put a stamp on a piece of paper can project his own insecurity and foolishness onto the other people, therefore every democracy will fail as a result.

You know my guess is that every fucking democracy on earn will end up leftist/socialist, because the ever growing debt thats accumulated by bribing voters, will result in a perpetual tax increase to pay off the interest on the bonds.


You underestimate the intelligence of people.  Smiley
In this globalized world, people can look at different countries and see how capitalist / socialist economies have fared. One of the reasons why communist regimes collapsed is that people realized life in capitalist countries was much better.

I`m not communist bro, i`m voluntaryst/libertarian like Mike. I`m against democracy because it's just another scam of the tyrants to fool people into subjugating their individuality before the collective.

The tyrants always like to pull up mirages before their slaves to make them think they are free, when they are obviously not. Democracy is one of them. It's very far from freedom.

For freedom to be achieved the collective must be dismantled.
1755  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is this the end of bitcoin? on: April 17, 2015, 03:09:24 AM
Stop this thread immdiately, its just nonsense scaremongering.

These exact threads make the price go down because you guys scaremonger eachother.

Bitcoin is not dead, go look up the Q1 statistics its higher than ever.

https://www.coindesk.com/research/state-of-bitcoin-q1-2015/

It's better than ever, anyone who says bitcoin is near death is a paid troll or just an idiot.  Smiley


thanks for the link...and btw there are a all of peopels who having a different point of view then yours....yes u r too smart but that's because u had experienced this all

I`m just sick of people scaremongering eachother without checking the facts first. From last year, all unique wallet users rised, merchant profit was extremely profitable, venture capital investments grow alot, this was the first year when there were more investments generally other than mining.

So the bitcoin economy slowly but steadily expands, the only reason the price is so low is because the government interventions, exchanges got hacked, and mainstream media demonizations.

In short bitcoin is being sabotaged but its not working Smiley
1756  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 17, 2015, 03:05:22 AM
gold. because BTC we do not know what his
future, your wallet account may be banned
tomorrow, we do not know.

Banned, how exactly when i store my coins offline and can be retrieved until the network exists.
1757  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 17, 2015, 03:04:15 AM

Yeah, most people don't realize they can easily city out 10-20% by getting rid of additional expenses/impulse buys. Skip the $4 cup of coffee every day. Don't grab a bag of chips, smokes and a soda every time you get gas, drink water when you go out to eat, change you cable/phone plan (do you even need cable these days???), etc. Cutting your expenses should be your first goal .

Yea i dont drink coffe, i rarely eat chips, i dont smoke, and i dont have a car.

I live on pretty small amounts of money, and i save the rest in my bank account and other investments, trying to shift myself into bitcoin more.

I also dont have debt and never had any. I dont use credit card nor other fraudulent items.
1758  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 17, 2015, 12:59:09 AM


You have to remember that 0.25% is not the norm; rates were dropped to zero as a result of the financial crisis in 08. "Normal times" they fluctuate - 3%, 6%, 8%... heck, early 80's you could get 16-20%. Of course, mortgages were also 14-18%.

But you have to stop looking at the situation as it is today and projecting that out to the indefinite future... Things are a lot more stable than they were, and the Fed is talking about letting rates rise, which'll have a trickle down effect across the rest of the world in turn.

These last few years of 0 to 0.25% interest on savings have been brutal for savers, but are far from the norm.

In what planet do you live lucas?

Check out this page and inform yourself:

www.nationaldebtclocks.org

Interest rates wont be raised again, they are going only down and down, into negative territory. Then they start up the printing press, and start doing QE infinity to print themselves out of debt.

Say goodbye to your bank savings because global hyperinflation will come!






1759  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: April 17, 2015, 12:55:09 AM
I lost 40 mBTC betting.

But I'll recover them very soon

Thats not much, you can recover that easily, although not with betting but trading.
1760  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 17, 2015, 12:54:12 AM
I see a lot of chaos there, for example those who think that Switzerland and UK are part of the Eurozone... Really?

By the way probably EUR won't drop below USD and the Eurozone won't collapse after a hypothetical Grexit, just because Greece is too small.

Actually the only downside of a Grexit and the consequent bankruptcy is the public exposure of Germany (65bln€), France (49bln€) and Italy (43bln€).

As you can see here: Eurozone countries exposures to Greece - 2011 vs 2014.

But that's not a really big deal actually.
if greece leaves the eurozone will collapse, italy, spain, and why would germany still want to stay in? ...

That's not the case, as an italian guy i am 100% sure that we will stay in the eurozone with or without Greece.
If you ask me, France is the biggest problem for the Eurozone, not economically (at least not right now), but politically, but that's another story.
By the way I already said that a Grexit is not a big deal, greek economy is just too small, not a big player and however we can't even tell if a Grexit is likely to happen or not, so right now the Eurozone is safe.

Isn't Italy going to have a referendum about leaving the eurozone? Don't know if it will pass. Or if the government will follow through with an exit if it does. But are you 100% sure it won't pass? Even without considering Greece. http://rt.com/news/248769-italy-eurozone-referendum-petition

it was like so, but they are not still there yet, was just a rumor at the end, i think ital will stay in the euro for now, and greece getting out will not change that

Haha what a joke, a referandum really?

They control votes and commit voting fraud.

C`mon people, most of you must realize by now what a joke this "democracy" thing really is....
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