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1821  Economy / Reputation / Re: Game-protect flag on: August 07, 2019, 03:24:36 PM
Is the casino that you host on lottery.game-protect unlicensed?

Here, I'll even give you the options you can pick from:

[ YES  |  NO ]
game-protect, do you remember when you were a young child, you learned the meanings of the words "yes" and "no"?

I can answer the question for you but I might pick the wrong answer. It's up to you to say whether the casino you're hosting is unlicensed or not.
1822  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? on: August 07, 2019, 03:22:36 PM
Do you think you have ever achieved anything with a single post? i only took you off ignore as this was a 7 pager... seeing as its only sensible people trolling you back ill stick you back on ignore, think of yourself like my morning shit, flushed away and inconsequential.

it seems absolutely clear to me that tman the RACIST and EXTORTIONIST has come slinking back to reply with some more off topic and irrelevant abuse. You have never debunked any of my claims with OBSERVABLE PROOF and only say that I am "trolling" or spamming. why does everyone support you even though you blatantly lie? ANSWER: because they are part of your dt gang to cycle merit and control the sig campaigns to get MONEY. You call people pajeets and sig spammers but look at you all in the same campaigns posting the same useless one liner trash that gets merited by your gang of merit cyclers.

It's so obvious to people but they don't speak up because they want to be part of the CYCLE and get these campaigns for the sig spam money and get merit from the cycle for the higher rates of sig spamming. if you had earned a genuine merit then you wouldn't keep up this double standard of giving NEGATIVE TRUST to a person you call a "troll" but then meriting a person who admits they are trolling.

I have already PROVED countless times that you are all abusing the dt system and the merit system and you are facilitating all these scams and extortions. the GANG pretends to hunt these fake small time scammers but then do nothing to the real scammers because that's who they actually ARE.

Even you ADMIT that every person is TROLLING which is breaking the forum rules. You have nothing to say to back up your proof so you resort to insults and calling people pajeet for being in a sig campaign but you are also in a sig campaign. you all enforce double standards and your gang posts outright LIES and off topic replies to confuse people.

@suchmoon or should i say suchMORON look at all the one line spam you are writing on this thread and BREAKING the local rules and constantly writing FAKE accusations with no established PROOF. While I have objectively proved facts and shown that the dt merit cycling gang has every person in the gang's top 20 lists you have never debunked anything that I have ever said.

you should be banned for constantly trolling and presenting false accusations and breaking local rules in every single thread.

But since the moderators on the forum selectively enforce rules and are part of the gang and need your merit cycles the system itself is inherently broken and unfair to all people who aren't in your dirty gang. All these asskissers and gang members get merit and your only defense is to say that merit is subjective and you think they are good posts but you admit that they're trolling... haha cycling merit to people who are breaking the rules that's exactly what a gang does

I could post some of your statements but I don't want to crush you so hard that you run away and never admit to your lies and FALSE statements. I notice that the moderators delete my ON TOPIC replies that are defending myself but I will never bring myself down to your level and report your posts. theymos should SEE the lies in your accusations and ban you for bullying a person out of free speech. I am fighting for a transparent and fair environment while YOU promulgate a CORRUPT gang based system where 99.9% of users do not get merit and only the users in the gang get merit.

I see Lauda has run away from this thread because they are too scared to answer to my FACTS without resorting to lies and slander. Even if they did post in this thread I bet they would have probably tell lies to keep people away from the TRUTH that he is an EXTORTIONIST and has always lied for their financial benefit. This is a clear and obvious scam promoter that has somehow gained all this trust all because of THE GANG!!

All you spammers say that the forum would be better without a signature but you are still in a sig campaign. If you really cared then you would take off the sig and could still contribute but if not then it just proves what I've been saying the whole time.
1823  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance KYC leak hack or not? on: August 07, 2019, 01:58:57 PM
@dkbit98 Service Discussion -> Exchanges would be most appropriate.
1824  Other / Meta / Re: Conversation Bots on: August 06, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
I don't think the count of posts that are deleted matters when it comes to banning someone, context does. There could be many reasons for posts to be deleted, and people don't really get permabanned for spamming as they do plagiarism/doxing et al. Temp bans are the usual ones that users get for spamming, so for all you know many of the spammers who get their posts deleted frequently in a short span of time would have probably been temp-banned.
Temp bans, then. Even a rough range would be good.

I know that insubstantial posts result in exponential ban times (7, 14, 28 and then I believe a perm) but even for this user I don't think they've even been temporarily banned. If the leniency has been increased, then sure. But after 100+ reports don't you think some action should be taken?
1825  Economy / Reputation / Re: Game-protect flag on: August 06, 2019, 11:16:09 PM
Is the casino that you host on lottery.game-protect unlicensed?

Here, I'll even give you the options you can pick from:

[ YES  |  NO ]
1826  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 08:53:00 PM
Something that I've noticed which differentiates AG-constructed content from human content is the mass parallelism.

We have sentence parallelism, which is common. Example: There is a lack of funding, a lack of established rules, and a lack of genuine interest

A number of times, the generated content falls into patterns. You can even see it in the example that I provided in the opening post:

Quote
They now control Google search, YouTube, and YouTube's search feature. They now control the search advertising we see on our mobile devices. And they now own

I see few long, complex sentences spanning multiple conjunctions and prepositions. The generations also have a few errors here and there when it comes to uncommon topics. I assume the larger forms of OpenAI's text generator will provide much better results.
1827  Other / Meta / Re: @Theymos sir plsz on: August 06, 2019, 08:38:59 PM
"Bitcoin Discussion" is too congested with trivial topics.
We should be trying to clean that up as well. Obviously a difficult task but out of all the spam boards I've seen, BD is probably the least spam-heavy one.

However, I have no problem to restrict the Press board to "non-Bitcoin" news sources. I also would suggest to sharpen the plagiarism rule for that particular sub-forum and don't allow posts that consist only of a cite of the article and a link to the source. Anyone wanting to post there should at least take the time and write a summary with his own words.
I would suggest: users should write something that invokes discussion. A summary is not necessary to accomplish the task. Somewhere between a synopsis and a "thoughts?" remark would suffice, I think.

It isn't even that time-consuming, really. But if the opening post takes less time than most subsequent posts (excluding pasting in article and source) then there's a clear problem.
1828  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 08:17:14 PM
I think there's some snark there. Lots of dry humor rather than your conventional comedy. Smiley
Maybe it needs another AI to pretend-laugh at those.
@LoyceV bring unto me thy laughter
Here's something that might be interesting: using these generative tools as a way to teach English to those that do not speak it natively. Jet Cash had some forum for learning English and this might be a useful instrument in order to see what kind of sentences someone can write.

It isn't perfect: far from it, rather. But it can give some insight into syntax and the use of various words in a variety of forms. Smiley
1829  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Recipe] Peanut Butter & Jelly Bacon Cheeseburger on: August 06, 2019, 08:09:21 PM
If there's any hesitation, remember that ketchup and mustard are common condiments when it comes to burger crafting. How different is jelly from that? Smiley
1830  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 07:59:50 PM
Personality can be changed. It is not immutable. Nor is it unique. Lobotomizing someone can alter their personality (e.g. the one guy that got a pole through his head)

Yeah but can it be faked by the AI word-spinner that you're using? I bet it could fake lobotomy quite convincingly but that's about it.

Add "snarky attempts at humor" to the list of things AI is shit at.
Here's my best AI-generated joke: __________________


Yes, it really just generated the underline. That's pretty meta.

Alternative generations:

Here's my best AI-generated joke: a man walks into a bar, pulls two fake guns out of his pocket, draws one of them while the other is in a holster, goes into that bar and orders a drink, the bartender says 'How much? How many?' and he says 'Zero,' which I think he means 'Zero.'



Here's my best AI-generated joke: a man walks into a bar, he's drunk and wants to make fun of the fact that he's got some dumb ass AI running his system, but the AI decides to run for president, and the man who is drinking the beer is actually a robot.



Here's my best AI-generated joke: a man walks into a bar: "Why aren't you working tonight?" It's my guess that when he says this, he's thinking to himself, "Maybe tonight's my night off," as though he could have a drink with anyone else if he wanted to. It's quite likely that he's thinking it when he says: "You're not getting any sleep tonight, are you?"

And I think you've realized this, too. A man walks into a bar. What does he do? He walks into a bar, and he goes and sits in a corner, looks around and says nothing. He walks straight into a bar!

But that's not the joke. The joke is the fact that in modern society most people in every other part of society—from top to bottom—go to bed before 7:00 in the morning, except for the guy who's been sitting there all night and nobody has told him. His life, the most important experience of his life, is to sit there until 7:00 am and look at pictures and talk nonsense



Note: these are all generated using OpenAI's GPT-2 model.
I think there's some snark there. Lots of dry humor rather than your conventional comedy. Smiley
1831  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 07:40:12 PM
I didn’t know that something like this could be done now. It is to be created sooner or later, I guess. But now posted like this and created a topic about it, wouldn't it make more exposure towards other users that might abuse this kind of thing?
Spammers are busy spamming the discussion boards, not looking at meta for spam techniques. Roll Eyes
Nice try Grin

How about "personality".
Personality can be changed. It is not immutable. Nor is it unique. Lobotomizing someone can alter their personality (e.g. the one guy that got a pole through his head)
1832  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 07:21:22 PM
"AI" nowadays seems to be a buzzword substitution for "software". There is nothing "intelligent" about it, not at this level anyway. It might be able to generate a sentence, perhaps even answer a simple question that's been answered before (i.e. google it) but not to create an idea, or to defend an opinion, or pretty much anything else of what makes a discussion forum work. So if this shit spreads, it will either turn into a cesspit of meaningless wordy diarrhea (some say it's already happened) or we'll have to clean it out.
Well, now we venture into philosophy and semantics as we delve further into the topic. The whole idea of "thinking" is a notion that can be debated in and of itself.

Perhaps instead of AI, AG would be a more appropriate term: artificial generation.
When it comes to natural selection vs. artificial selection, there is exponentially less difference between the two as you lower the granularity of what is considered "artificial".
Eventually, either all selection is natural or all selection is artificial.

This is the current downfall of the software. I also don't really like labeling everything with "AI" these days, and I'm not even sure if that's even at all possible. This software isn't learning, and is generating its content through spinning words by using a thesaurus, and generating words via its corpus rather than truly learning.  However, all this method really does from a spam point of view is look more constructive at a glance, however the closer you look you'll see that it is as you elegantly put "meaningless wordy diarrhea".
The software digests an input (or rather several million) and tries to create patterns thereof. It's a glorified plagiarist, to be frank.
1833  Other / Meta / Re: [Re] Basic rules. on: August 06, 2019, 07:09:22 PM
wasting time on the same topic, in vain.
It would only be in vain if the thread presents no new discussion.
All the "leet" and birthday cake threads in Meta come to mind. "Always search before creating a topic" would be a simple tip. If any information is obfuscated due to inexact keywords then it doesn't matter as much. Propagating the forum with more keywords in similar topics means that eventually (if a question is sufficiently answered) there will be no need to create a new thread for the topic. Smiley



Somewhat off-topic:

I've reported a lot of Mycro participants, to the point where I've opened YOSHIE's profile repeatedly expecting to find horrible posts. It's a pleasant surprise and shows that the altcoin sections and 'bounty hunters' can still breathe life into conversation, provided the users aren't blasting away at keys talking about bitcoin going to $N if it reaches $M.
1834  Other / Meta / Re: Conversation Bots on: August 06, 2019, 06:55:22 PM
Probably, but they leave a trace every time they sell merit at least, unlike account sales. Therefore, finding these serial merit sellers should be an easier task. There's been a few busted since the introduction of the merit system. AFAIK, considering the amount of users who have ranked up under the new system merit abuse isn't as big as originally thought to be.
The transparency of merit is one of the two best parts about it. The other would be the fact that since there is a finite amount of airdropped merit, there are only so many accounts that can rank up clandestinely... and then the account farming market is forced to create non-spam posts: exactly the result we want.
Over time, spam will falter. Even without reporter activity increasing, the number of spammers should decline: it's just natural selection Wink

I'm just confused about how many posts a user has to have deleted (in a short amount of time) before they're given a ban. Take a look at the 'most posts deleted' list and you'll find a (relatively) small percentage of them actually banned. (of course this is only concerning permbans)

One particular user that I've been reporting consistently has almost as many posts deleted as they have up: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Vinaa77 (696 posts to 476 deleted)
1835  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 06:40:33 PM
Most likely such garbage will be posted in a useless spam megathread with no purpose other than to pad someone's post count, so it's still low-value spam regardless of verbosity.

I imagine that in the future, many more posts will be leveraging AI use. Consider an AI-generated text post, where an algorithm generates the message and the human reads and interprets it. A machine could also be used to make recommendations that might not be obvious to the writer, based on some type of intelligence. For example, recommendations for future words or even sentences could be created by AI algorithms. Artificial neural networks are used to understand human speech so they can accurately predict certain words and phrases so it's clear they'll be used for the generation thereof.
Trivia: I wrote about 25% of that. It didn't capture my prose precisely but could definitely be used to mask someone else's effort... or lack thereof Smiley
I almost could applaud their effort to use services to generate news/article automatically.

Maybe it's time to use AI which can detect generated/fake news & combine it with bot to report such spam post/thread automatically Tongue
Perhaps. Though, with any effort, it will be difficult to decipher what was AI-generated and what was stupid-generated.
1836  Other / Meta / Spam Methods: Artificial Text Generation on: August 06, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Thanks to Ddmr's post linking GLTR, I began my work as a devil's advocate and tried to find methods of breaking the detection.

Wasn't hard.

Take an example topic: thoughts on companies becoming too powerful?
Take a snippet from the OP or title: "Companies become so big and they have enormous power over us, do you think companies like this should be broken up by the government or be allowed to reign supreme?"
Use AI-generated text:
Quote
Let's begin by giving an example. Google now has hundreds if not thousands of apps for Android and iOS. They now control Google search, YouTube, and YouTube's search feature. They now control the search advertising we see on our mobile devices. And they now own the entire YouTube network. In addition, they have built massive research and development centers in Silicon Valley to research, develop, and test their new technology.

If you thought "corporations" sounds like something out of a science fiction novel, think again. We now have Google's self-driving car, Amazon's cloud cloud hosting solutions, Google's mobile phone, Amazon's Web Services, and Google's YouTube, to name a few. Imagine if we did this with Apple's iTunes, Amazon's cloud storage, etc. These big companies own so much power and data that they are a "threat to the entire Internet."

For obvious reasons I won't provide the direct link to how I generated the text but most people will find it easily enough.

Now we plug this into GLTR one paragraph at a time. Lots of green, a few bits of red. We need to obfuscate.

Add complexity with thesaurus flips:

Quote
Let's commence by giving an example. Google now has hundreds if not thousands of apps for Android and iOS. They now control Google search, YouTube, and YouTube's search feature. They now control the search advertising we optically discern on our mobile devices. And they now own the entire YouTube network. In integration, they have built massive research and development centers in Silicon Valley to research, develop, and test their incipient technology.

And simplify:

Quote
Let's begin by giving an example. Google now has hundreds if not thousands of apps for Android and iOS. They now control Google search, YouTube, and YouTube's search feature. They now control the search advertising we optically see on our mobile devices. And they now own the whole YouTube network. In integration, they have built huge research and development centers in Silicon Valley to research, develop, and test their incipent technology.

Full text after processes:

Quote
Let's begin by giving an example. Google now has hundreds if not thousands of apps for Android and iOS. They now control Google search, YouTube, and YouTube's search feature. They now control the search advertising we optically see on our mobile devices. And they now own the whole YouTube network. In integration, they have built huge research and development centers in Silicon Valley to research, develop, and test their incipent technology and if you thought "corporations" sounds like something out of a science fiction novel, think again. We now have Google's self-driving car, Amazon's cloud hosting solutions, Google's mobile phone, Amazon's Web Services, and Google's YouTube, to select/name a few. Imagine if we did this with Apple's iTunes, Amazon's cloud storage, etc. These hugely huge companies own so much power and data that they are a "threat to the whole Internet."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

By fractional percentage, it looks human-generated. Could you tell the difference?

(results can be improved with grammar checkers or better obfuscation for a 'career spammer')
Even with tools like GLTR, advanced spam methods will be harder to detect. The question is: what should happen to these posts?
1837  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? on: August 06, 2019, 05:14:03 PM
Person/people? Wink

It's almost more difficult now with the addition of "people, person, member, scammer". Four subjects total with but only one pluralized subject make for poor sentences when you have verbs conjugated in the first-person form.
1838  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? on: August 06, 2019, 05:08:41 PM
This is from the last 365 days:

  #  Word                  Count
   1. trust                  2499
  2. merit                  2105
   3. people                 1911
  4. like                   1603
   5. post                   1474
  6. red                    1450
   7. get                    1374
  8. dt                     1327
   9. even                   1266
 10. board                  1182
  11. see                    1157
 12. thread                 1042
  13. posts                  1007
 14. one                    1000
  15. system                  962
 16. observable              933
  17. say                     919
 18. mean                    898
  19. lauda                   893
 20. could                   850
I tried to make a complete sentence out of it, to summarize 1 year of ch, but it doesn't make much sense:
Quote
Say, could people even get red trust like merit board? See Lauda, mean observable dt system, one post, posts, thread.
Or maybe not making sense makes a lot of sense Tongue
People see one board-observable red system: DT Lauda could even say mean-like posts/thread, get trust/merit.
Kind of hard when you don't have many articles to work with. English with constraint is not an easy beast to control.
1839  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: August 06, 2019, 03:22:11 PM
Bots in trading are ineffective and even make you suffer losses. All I know is that bots in crypto trading are all carried out by bots. And if the market decreases, you can't cut it because everything is done by bots. This is not good using bots. Those who initially want to get a profit suffer losses.

All I know is that bots in crypto trading are all carried out by bots ~ rachman mahesa, announcing the existence of autonomous AI that create crypto trading bots.
1840  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? on: August 06, 2019, 02:55:58 PM
For the record, LoyceV can choose to refuse a data compilation. You're not entitled to his time and neither is anyone else.

I made a request some time ago which was refused. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't look like I have any special privileges with "robovac"

Am I misunderstanding something? What's with the nickname? I don't get it.


Can some point me to the last time loyceV charged for splattering his stats all over this board.
I make an exception for unfriendly people.
Also you are spamming a highly paid sig (in anti midas terms) so you likely know that would be vulnerable if you were to become unpopular.
Why bother posting on LoyceMobile if he wants to maximize his signature earnings? Roll Eyes
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